R Buddy... Before you post, you should know when to just hit that cancel button. You're not going to stop a guy from doing his own home improvements and learning along the way. Be gracious and move along.
Before you get on R case theres a bigger picture problem I see and I have seen plumbers make mistakes to is if you dont know what your doing and you make a mistake you can actually kill people with not knowing. It has happened the P trap missing could fill your house with gas and it can explode etc. A wrong hook up on a water line can send human feces and other agents back into a water supply. Im not saying you cant Im say is that $2000 saved worth your life or your neighbors etc.
good for you posting this. for the price of a permit you got a master plumber (inspector) to check your work, and now with the floor closed, you can be happy the job is right. when I took out the permit for my basement bath, the inspector cautioned me to not glue up in case it needed changing. well, he came, and when he looked in the excavation, asked "why did you do it that way?" I just about died! I asked him what was wrong, and he said "nothing- but you won't make money in the trade" he climbed into the excavation, pulled it all apart, roughly rebuilt it, put all the now 'extra' pieces on the floor and said "you can take them back to the store" He said it now still met code and was a more efficient and better looking rough in. By the way, when I opened the permit, this inspector also went to city hall archives and came back with the original registered building plan for my house! he gave me some cautions, one being I'd be in heavy clay down there..... he remembered the subdivision!
Good video. Thank you for being honest. It’s hard to admit mistakes. I'm a plumber and I still make plumbing mistakes. It's all about learning from our mistakes.
Everyone makes mistakes. You're right. I've been at it for 41 years and I still make...... nah! Never! lol This video did make me cringe a little bit. Whew!
Not sure how I got here but glad I did. It's refreshing to see people putting honest vids out there, SOOOOOO many expert DIYer's & "PROS" that NEVER screw up, whatever. You took on the project, you identified the errors and then you fixed them. Sounds like the right steps to me. Thxs for this.
I'm about to start the plumbing in my house reno, thanks for posting this and pointing out mistakes I could easily see myself making. Your lack of ego is helping a lot of diy'ers out there! Hope you got it all tuned up.
Thanks for posting, it's nice to see the kinds of things where we can mess up. There are tons of videos on how to do something, but very few that show the other side. This really helps thank you :)
this is excellent even for experienced plumbers because it reinforces the red flags what not to do and call out others when they are slipping on an inspection. easily one of the best plumbing vids I've seen. though the lack of a shower p trap was kinda silly lol!
As a plumber....it's amazing how homeowners try to save money doing it themselves......but in the long run they are better off hiring a PROFESSIONAL PLUMBER! TIME = MONEY
We all make these same mistakes, but it takes an uncommon genuine confidence to be unafraid to show our mistakes. To go even further and highlight your own failures for the benefit of others is character on the highest level. Your post is very important and is much appreciated. You sir, are the type of man to be admired and respected by the rest of us.
Thanks for posting Paul! Plumbing certainly isn't rocket science but there are rules that we may not understand the rational for, but must be followed. You obviously have the skills to do it yourself and it's great that you share so others can learn from your inspection results. I have had to change things after an inspection to meet code on occasion, but ultimately EVERY inspector has stated that my work was better quality than most plumbers. So good on you for doing it yourself and helping others learn to as well.
Thanks for sharing this very informative video. Permit is not cheap but it’s the right thing to do to for DIYs and homeowners to make sure that their job is done correctly and a lot cheaper than hiring a contractor. Most of the times people that make bad comments are the ones that don’t know much but they are very good in making BS comments to others. I always compare this kind of people to a large empty can or drum because they both make a lot of noise.
Good work guy! Hindsight is 20 20 for those of us who don't do this stuff day in and day out. Let's bring those plumbers to our day jobs and see how they do in a different environment. Hope you're enjoying your bathroom.
Thank you. We all learn from our mistakes. Keep up the good work. Remember, if a person says he has never failed, he probably hasn't tried to many things.
When I saw all the ferncos and purple primer... say no more . I have to hand it to you at least you put it out there and gave it a try. Way to go thanks for sharing
Thank you so much for sharing... I'll get more from this video than I will get from any others... wish more people had your mentality about how to handle the mistakes they make in life...
I'm a big time DIY person. It's tempting to try and slide something like this in without inspection but as you can see here it's worth every penny. The vast majority of inspectors are competent professionals who are there to make sure the job is safe and works as designed. Most in the trades who badmouth inspectors are usually trying to cut corners to pad their profits or are lazy.
If people are wondering why you cant use rubber 90's and other fixtures for drains, its do to cleaning drains out. Theres other reasons as well. If you run a sewer machine through that line to clean it, when the snake hits the corner it will rip right through the fitting and now you have a slab leak and a clogged drain. They also shift very easily and can kink when foundations shift (ive personally seen it happen). They will eventually rot and fail as well. Some areas allow them for venting above a certain height but I would stay away from them all together. Furncos should not be used under slab either unless its shielded with metal mission band (in some areas)
I've seen the all-rubber fittings just shear right off, too. As for the t on it's back, a combi T-Y fixes that, and the rubber ell, must be replaced w/ a 22.5, 45, or 60 deg ell, and brought into a 4x2 wye.No 90 degree ell required there, fewer bends = smoother flow. Another wise idea, is to upsize any 1.5 to 2" under the slab, and also place Dandy fittings (cleanouts) on the vents where they come up out of the slab, about 18" off the floor... This way, you have a way to get at any future clog that may occur.
i admit i use the rubber ferncos at work....if i replace a trap with pvc i will use one right at the wall stubout. always where i can take it off to run the snake.
I love that he shows you his mistakes that even licensed plumbers could, but shouldn't make. I'm not a plumber but there are codes for a reason. This is also why you have permits and inspections. I didn't think rubber connections were allowed anywhere below grade, because they always dry out and fail.
Apparently Ferncos are made from elastomeric PVC, although they seem like rubber. PVC is such nasty stuff that it holds up well underground (as a coupling for 2 rigid pipes). But as a fitting, it would easily collapse or be punctured.
Thanks for the video. No one cares about your home more than the home owner. Doing things right is more than a saying when it is your own home. Funny how many haters there are because you are doing it yourself. Inspectors are your friends.
The rubber y connected to the vent is reversed direction I think. You don’t want the flow flash into anywhere you don’t want. I would not recommend to use any rubber elbow as it can get loose and start to leak. Only use rubber fitting if you cut off a straight pipe and want to replace that section with a new one. Great reference video for green hands, thank you.
I'm laughing at all of the biased pro plumbers here. Even with the failed inspection he'll have the opportunity to fix his mistakes to bring it up to code. In the process I'm sure he'll also have saved thousands compared to paying a pro to do it. How can that be a dumb move?? I can see if he didn't have an inspection & it's unsafe or a issue down the road but if he gets it checked out (just like a pro would) & it passes then what's it to you it took a long time to do himself?
You're right, He will save a lot of money, I use Master plumbers for my projects only because the projects have permits...If you have a permit, you must use a master plumber here in the philly area...The homeowner is no longer allowed to get their own permits or do the work...(although it could be challenged by a lawyer)...I am glad to see people take the initiative to do their own stuff, it helps them to understand why we remodelers make the big bucks...LOL...(about the big bucks; there's a saying; if you want to make a million in remodeling; start out with two...:) )
because everyone in the whole world would love to save money by doing it themselves but you get yourself tied into a triangle of money-time-labor......where in this case he saved money but cost him time and labor.......vs......if he spent the money and got the labor done by a pro then in turn get to keep his time which is by far more valuable. With time you get to go to work and make money (time is money people.) Even if he is well off and money is not an issue then why not spend money on a pro. Projects get done quicker with pros vs Joe's which save you money no matter how you look at it. Thats why.....Think about the money he could have made instead of being on his knees in a bathroom redoing plumbing mistakes caused by inexperience. Total no brainer. I could just imagine how long it took for that bathroom to be completed. Although i give him props for diy but honestly these are rookie mistakes that show its probably his first DWV branch he ever plumbed in his life and probably failed more inspections then his plumbing......... But i guess you save a couple grand by DIY? Man but your hours there in that bathroom you will never get back. Hope you can use your knew found knowledge and put it to some use to make you money. 8P
@@JamesBond-xn5np if you don't have the money, but you have the time, that's why you do this. It's simple. Just because one has time, does not mean they can make money outside of the job they already have.
@@JamesBond-xn5np mate. this is a talent to be able to do things like that. Of Course you don't have it and trying to justify your lack of talent in handy work. One knows the knowledge and experience of being able to do DIY is a great thing that money can't buy you. You can spend thousands of dollars but still won't be able to to this right. so if you don't get it that is fine. Just pay like most people do.
Not bad, a B+ for guessing. It could have been worse. Thank you for sharing and being human and honest. You won't get a reply from someone who hasn't made mistakes.
I'm an electrical engineer and I would never make such obvious mistakes like that....just kidding, probably made many pissed off at me with my statement. Made mistakes and corrected them too, wish medical doctors (or perhaps their employers) had courage to admit instances of mistakes too. Good video!!
It's great that you showed all your mistakes. It takes a lot of guts to do so, because of all the snide remarks from people who look down on you. Yeah there's a lot wrong, but you perhaps saved a lot of trouble for other people.
I am a do-it yourself guy and I watched this video to see what not to do and you save me from makeing the same mistake. For all you haters if you think you could have done better then your blind. Unless your a licensed blumber then you need to shut up. Good job mate
Thumbs up for showing your mistakes for the benefit of others Paul. It takes guts to subject yourself to ridicule from all these "experts".At least you pulled a permit so you wanted to do things right. The inspector told you what needs to get fixed so fix it and move on.
i myself is a rookie in this plumbing business. but im here reseaching and trying to learn alot about how to route a pipe in a propper manner. im about to re do a plumbing in one of my bathroom. it has not been working since i purchase the house.
Thumbs up for inspecting your job, and not just poring concrete on top. Not sure though I'd give B+ for that job.. more like C-. The effort was there, but too many misses. Good you shared though. Cause many other DIYers would just close the floor, and be "done" with that..
It’s good if you to show mistakes. It helps people watching know what not to do. Im sure this next advice is too late but I’ll say it anyway. As for the rubber couplings, even the ones the inspector allows I wouldn’t use. Use glue fittings everywhere you can and when you can’t use a no hub coupling. A 4 band no hub would be even better. When it comes to plumbing under a slab, you want the best connection possible. Also, I don’t know if your area allows wet venting but if so you shouldn’t need that toilet vent. Wet venting just means a drain that also serves as a vent for another fixture. It appears as though the lav drain and toilet vent are side by side so if wet venting is allowed then you could cap off the toilet vent and use the lav drain as a wet vent.
If you were like some of the arrogant posters here, you would say something like "My good friend has been doing a plumbing project and he is going to have to have it inspected. Even though I am not licensed, he knows that I know as more than most Master Plumbers and all inspectors, so he begged me to come look at his work. Now let me show you some of the places he made mistakes so you don't make the mistakes my friend made. I am so smart and handsome." That is how they make videos.
I get customers like this all the time. They are sure that they know "enough" about a trade to save themselves money and do it alone. Which I may tend to commend them for... And mind you, I've encountered situations way worse than this. But they are called skilled trades for a reason. Hopefully you will find an honest plumber out there. But, save yourself the money and pain in the long run and support local business by calling a plumber in the first place. At least have one come over and tell you what to do. In all my years have I ever gotten a graded inspection, either pass or fail, and in my book, you failed. But, I'll definitely give you an A for effort.
at least he had an inspection. there so much info out there on the net and in books that he could have done it right. he could have had a plumber draw up an isometric dwg . I'm a plumber and that was how I did my material take offs for jobs.
You didn't fail if you fixed those items in the end. unless you do this kind of work for a living don't kick yourself over it. It'll be done right and you will have the satisfaction of knowing you did the work not to mention the money you saved.
To bad you didn't install a 4" x 2" combo at a 45 degree angle into the vanity wall. Then with a 2" x 11/2" sanitary tee to catch the lav. sink. As long as you're 42" or less between the weir of the trap and the centerline of the vent, you're cool. Unless, of course, vertical wet vents aren't allowed where you live. Is there someplace where they aren't? But, hey! Everybody's a plumber
Thanks for posting I'm not a plumber but i thing rubber might fail in time so not good for slab floor and what about one size bigger pipes very little extra cost but might work better, The problem with the rubber elbow mabe a clean out snake might put a hole in it. Thanks Pete
Agreed on all counts. The nominal cost of going one size up is so small, that it's worth it. Upsizing also reduces the chance of it clogging. Also, take any elbows and get the longest turn you can. A long turn "sweep" fitting is far less likely to pose a problem, compared to a sharper turn.
I don't understand why so many complain. Cry babies? All pro trades have made mistakes in the past. This is how to define a pro. A pro knows what not to do from experience of mistakes. We become knowledgeable for 2 reasons. 1 we were taught by the best. 2 we made in the past mistakes we never want to repeat. The repair to correct a mistake takes time and material waste. It is a loss of money and time. We all made them in the past. Reputable companies will correct these problems at no cost to the owner. So my advice it just this. Always get 3 quotes minimum. never go for the company who charge less than 1 4th the cost. never go for the extra quote more than 1 4th the quote of the 3. Tip the high quote maybe good company but don't have the time to take the job. They price high. The low quote maybe not experienced enough to fully understand what is needed for material and or labour. Always check to see if this company is fully insured. And check with local City to see if they have had a permit record. Most small companies will try to get out of permits. These permits are designed to protect both the contractor and the owner. Not all jobs require a permit though. If there is a change to structure, change to plumbing rout, change to electrical rout, this is required. If tie into existing this is not required. However a proper contractor will inform code violations before work starts. This of course will happen after demolitions. We don't have Ex-Ray vision. Most times problems happen durring this stage. expect extra expense. However the contractor should address these problems and discuss A price to correct the situation before the next stage. There should never be a surprise bill at the end. My opinion. Keep good customer relations, always explain why things need changes, for safety and or future problems. The owner only has final say to price. If a contractor is instructed to hide violations by owner? This contractor is shady to do so. We put our name and reputation on a job as a Contractor. We would not do a job that is unsafe. There are ways of cutting cost and stay within code on a final contract. My advice is never let the contractor submit to an unsafe code to cut cost. It could be your family living there. If another family lives there? You would expect it is safe for them? Good video. I love mistakes and how to prevent them much better than a final picture. This is how we advance. ;)
Chris Scott Professional contractors learn by reading and knowing the code as well as the various manufacturers specs! Learning on the back of some poor unsuspecting homeowner is fraud, ie. theft.
Arkansas, one of the hardest for plumbing code, will soon not allow homeowners to pull permits. Yup. Sanitary tee on its back/ side. Can collect solids
the toilet vent could of just been your lavatory and been a wet vent, no need for two separate lines, plus venting dry or flat is illegal as well, but good attempt !
You want to run your pipes at a 1/4" grade per foot. Lavatory drain looks steep. If the grade is to steep the water will run off faster than the waste.
a lot of people use rubber fitting with clamps. they assume anything you buy at the store is code. some simple fixes and this basement will be ready to go.
...not to mention your sink drain is first in line to the actual vent...so you just made your sink a vent....so the p trap will always empty everytime you flush the toilet.... 😉
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Come on guys...This guy took the time to show people his mistakes so others wouldn't....Takes a alot balls to say I fucked up ....
thanks, chefbillyx
+Paul Andre...No problem thanks for posting!
Before you take on a job like this you should know what the hell you are doing.
R Buddy... Before you post, you should know when to just hit that cancel button. You're not going to stop a guy from doing his own home improvements and learning along the way. Be gracious and move along.
Before you get on R case theres a bigger picture problem I see and I have seen plumbers make mistakes to is if you dont know what your doing and you make a mistake you can actually kill people with not knowing. It has happened the P trap missing could fill your house with gas and it can explode etc. A wrong hook up on a water line can send human feces and other agents back into a water supply. Im not saying you cant Im say is that $2000 saved worth your life or your neighbors etc.
as a plumber i gotta say good job posting for others to learn, you may have saved others hundreds in fixing mistakes, and time
David Reynolds
+Don Don poo
As a former plumber I have to say that even with your mistakes you are still saving a lot of $$$$$, and have learned plenty. you are doing a fine job.
good for you posting this. for the price of a permit you got a master plumber (inspector) to check your work, and now with the floor closed, you can be happy the job is right. when I took out the permit for my basement bath, the inspector cautioned me to not glue up in case it needed changing. well, he came, and when he looked in the excavation, asked "why did you do it that way?"
I just about died! I asked him what was wrong, and he said "nothing- but you won't make money in the trade" he climbed into the excavation, pulled it all apart, roughly rebuilt it, put all the now 'extra' pieces on the floor and said "you can take them back to the store" He said it now still met code and was a more efficient and better looking rough in. By the way, when I opened the permit, this inspector also went to city hall archives and came back with the original registered building plan for my house! he gave me some cautions, one being I'd be in heavy clay down there..... he remembered the subdivision!
Good video. Thank you for being honest. It’s hard to admit mistakes. I'm a plumber and I still make plumbing mistakes. It's all about learning from our mistakes.
Everyone makes mistakes. You're right. I've been at it for 41 years and I still make...... nah! Never! lol This video did make me cringe a little bit. Whew!
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I never make mistakes lol
Not sure how I got here but glad I did. It's refreshing to see people putting honest vids out there, SOOOOOO many expert DIYer's & "PROS" that NEVER screw up, whatever. You took on the project, you identified the errors and then you fixed them. Sounds like the right steps to me. Thxs for this.
Thanks for this video shows how much we need plumbers in this world
I'm about to start the plumbing in my house reno, thanks for posting this and pointing out mistakes I could easily see myself making. Your lack of ego is helping a lot of diy'ers out there! Hope you got it all tuned up.
Thank you for posting this excellent video. It is very helpful to see what things the inspector found.
Thanks for posting, it's nice to see the kinds of things where we can mess up. There are tons of videos on how to do something, but very few that show the other side. This really helps thank you :)
this is excellent even for experienced plumbers because it reinforces the red flags what not to do and call out others when they are slipping on an inspection. easily one of the best plumbing vids I've seen. though the lack of a shower p trap was kinda silly lol!
Everyone makes mistakes . But not too many admit... thanks for sharing 👍🏼 good luck ..
As a plumber....it's amazing how homeowners try to save money doing it themselves......but in the long run they are better off hiring a PROFESSIONAL PLUMBER! TIME = MONEY
I commend this guy for giving it a go... once he applies fixes, he is good to go... nothing wrong... you got to start somewhere...
Hey Paul, I certainly learned a few new things that I did not know. Thank you for sharing. It takes a lot of guts to help people like this.
We all make these same mistakes, but it takes an uncommon genuine confidence to be unafraid to show our mistakes. To go even further and highlight your own failures for the benefit of others is character on the highest level. Your post is very important and is much appreciated. You sir, are the type of man to be admired and respected by the rest of us.
Thanks for posting Paul! Plumbing certainly isn't rocket science but there are rules that we may not understand the rational for, but must be followed. You obviously have the skills to do it yourself and it's great that you share so others can learn from your inspection results. I have had to change things after an inspection to meet code on occasion, but ultimately EVERY inspector has stated that my work was better quality than most plumbers. So good on you for doing it yourself and helping others learn to as well.
Thanks for sharing this very informative video. Permit is not cheap but it’s the right thing to do to for DIYs and homeowners to make sure that their job is done correctly and a lot cheaper than hiring a contractor.
Most of the times people that make bad comments are the ones that don’t know much but they are very good in making BS comments to others. I always compare this kind of people to a large empty can or drum because they both make a lot of noise.
Good work guy! Hindsight is 20 20 for those of us who don't do this stuff day in and day out. Let's bring those plumbers to our day jobs and see how they do in a different environment.
Hope you're enjoying your bathroom.
What a class act. Thank you, I learned from your mistakes, and am grateful.
Thank you. We all learn from our mistakes. Keep up the good work. Remember, if a person says he has never failed, he probably hasn't tried to many things.
When I saw all the ferncos and purple primer... say no more . I have to hand it to you at least you put it out there and gave it a try. Way to go thanks for sharing
Thanks. I learned a lot. I hope you got it all to pass the next inspection.
Thanks for posting! very valuable information. We all learn by making mistakes. i know i have made my fair share of mistakes.
Thank you so much for sharing... I'll get more from this video than I will get from any others... wish more people had your mentality about how to handle the mistakes they make in life...
DWV is a challenging for a DIY'er. Took a lot of guts to take that on. Thanks for sharing.
thanks for being brave enough to share -most would not
I'm a big time DIY person. It's tempting to try and slide something like this in without inspection but as you can see here it's worth every penny. The vast majority of inspectors are competent professionals who are there to make sure the job is safe and works as designed. Most in the trades who badmouth inspectors are usually trying to cut corners to pad their profits or are lazy.
If people are wondering why you cant use rubber 90's and other fixtures for drains, its do to cleaning drains out. Theres other reasons as well. If you run a sewer machine through that line to clean it, when the snake hits the corner it will rip right through the fitting and now you have a slab leak and a clogged drain. They also shift very easily and can kink when foundations shift (ive personally seen it happen). They will eventually rot and fail as well. Some areas allow them for venting above a certain height but I would stay away from them all together. Furncos should not be used under slab either unless its shielded with metal mission band (in some areas)
I've seen the all-rubber fittings just shear right off, too. As for the t on it's back, a combi T-Y fixes that, and the rubber ell, must be replaced w/ a 22.5, 45, or 60 deg ell, and brought into a 4x2 wye.No 90 degree ell required there, fewer bends = smoother flow.
Another wise idea, is to upsize any 1.5 to 2" under the slab, and also place Dandy fittings (cleanouts) on the vents where they come up out of the slab, about 18" off the floor... This way, you have a way to get at any future clog that may occur.
Why are they even made?!?!
i admit i use the rubber ferncos at work....if i replace a trap with pvc i will use one right at the wall stubout. always where i can take it off to run the snake.
working shlub I use the Grey tubular ferncos
Why don't you use no-hub S.S. couplings?
I love that he shows you his mistakes that even licensed plumbers could, but shouldn't make. I'm not a plumber but there are codes for a reason. This is also why you have permits and inspections. I didn't think rubber connections were allowed anywhere below grade, because they always dry out and fail.
Apparently Ferncos are made from elastomeric PVC, although they seem like rubber. PVC is such nasty stuff that it holds up well underground (as a coupling for 2 rigid pipes). But as a fitting, it would easily collapse or be punctured.
Thanks for the video. No one cares about your home more than the home owner. Doing things right is more than a saying when it is your own home. Funny how many haters there are because you are doing it yourself. Inspectors are your friends.
The rubber y connected to the vent is reversed direction I think. You don’t want the flow flash into anywhere you don’t want. I would not recommend to use any rubber elbow as it can get loose and start to leak. Only use rubber fitting if you cut off a straight pipe and want to replace that section with a new one. Great reference video for green hands, thank you.
Yup, always do your homework Señor. Just know you're not the only one we all make mistakes.
Thanks buddy. This helped me realize NOT to lay the wye on its side. This was good of you to post.
wyes can go on the side. Not tees
I'm laughing at all of the biased pro plumbers here. Even with the failed inspection he'll have the opportunity to fix his mistakes to bring it up to code. In the process I'm sure he'll also have saved thousands compared to paying a pro to do it. How can that be a dumb move?? I can see if he didn't have an inspection & it's unsafe or a issue down the road but if he gets it checked out (just like a pro would) & it passes then what's it to you it took a long time to do himself?
You're right, He will save a lot of money, I use Master plumbers for my projects only because the projects have permits...If you have a permit, you must use a master plumber here in the philly area...The homeowner is no longer allowed to get their own permits or do the work...(although it could be challenged by a lawyer)...I am glad to see people take the initiative to do their own stuff, it helps them to understand why we remodelers make the big bucks...LOL...(about the big bucks; there's a saying; if you want to make a million in remodeling; start out with two...:) )
because everyone in the whole world would love to save money by doing it themselves but you get yourself tied into a triangle of money-time-labor......where in this case he saved money but cost him time and labor.......vs......if he spent the money and got the labor done by a pro then in turn get to keep his time which is by far more valuable. With time you get to go to work and make money (time is money people.) Even if he is well off and money is not an issue then why not spend money on a pro. Projects get done quicker with pros vs Joe's which save you money no matter how you look at it. Thats why.....Think about the money he could have made instead of being on his knees in a bathroom redoing plumbing mistakes caused by inexperience. Total no brainer. I could just imagine how long it took for that bathroom to be completed. Although i give him props for diy but honestly these are rookie mistakes that show its probably his first DWV branch he ever plumbed in his life and probably failed more inspections then his plumbing......... But i guess you save a couple grand by DIY? Man but your hours there in that bathroom you will never get back. Hope you can use your knew found knowledge and put it to some use to make you money. 8P
@@JamesBond-xn5np if you don't have the money, but you have the time, that's why you do this. It's simple. Just because one has time, does not mean they can make money outside of the job they already have.
Steven Weede, Excellent comment
@@JamesBond-xn5np mate. this is a talent to be able to do things like that. Of Course you don't have it and trying to justify your lack of talent in handy work. One knows the knowledge and experience of being able to do DIY is a great thing that money can't buy you. You can spend thousands of dollars but still won't be able to to this right. so if you don't get it that is fine. Just pay like most people do.
Thank you for sharing this. It good to see where you can go wrong I’m about to try this myself. I’m impressed you did all that work yourself.
Not bad, a B+ for guessing. It could have been worse. Thank you for sharing and being human and honest. You won't get a reply from someone who hasn't made mistakes.
Thank you very much! I am trying to decide if I can do this same job on my own and you have given me good food for thought.
👍 humility is a key ingredients for learning.You are a pioneer !
I'm an electrical engineer and I would never make such obvious mistakes like that....just kidding, probably made many pissed off at me with my statement. Made mistakes and corrected them too, wish medical doctors (or perhaps their employers) had courage to admit instances of mistakes too. Good video!!
Thanks for taking the time to record the vid. Thanks for posting...
a 3" shower drain, lol, at least if anyone ever craps in the shower it'll go down
sewer gas will enter his home though no p-trap
ha ha ha....
What, you all act like you don't waffle stomp your snickers bar in the shower drain to save time you beautiful disasters!
Hahaha
@@shanesnell8285 I've literally never done that. What is wrong with you lol.
It's great that you showed all your mistakes. It takes a lot of guts to do so, because of all the snide remarks from people who look down on you. Yeah there's a lot wrong, but you perhaps saved a lot of trouble for other people.
I am a do-it yourself guy and I watched this video to see what not to do and you save me from makeing the same mistake. For all you haters if you think you could have done better then your blind. Unless your a licensed blumber then you need to shut up. Good job mate
Thumbs up for showing your mistakes for the benefit of others Paul. It takes guts to subject yourself to ridicule from all these "experts".At least you pulled a permit so you wanted to do things right. The inspector told you what needs to get fixed so fix it and move on.
No pvc fittings were harmed in making of this video.... LOL!!!!
Thank you for your post. I learned a few things and confirmed a few things. Hope your project went well after that.
comedy under the category is right!
do not forget your cleanouts..i did not see any here. good job helping others avoid mistakes.
I’m glad he posted his mistakes. But even as a DIY’er I would never bury anything with a hose clamp!
i myself is a rookie in this plumbing business. but im here reseaching and trying to learn alot about how to route a pipe in a propper manner. im about to re do a plumbing in one of my bathroom. it has not been working since i purchase the house.
Best video ever that the best way to learn.
This is a very useful video...thanks for putting it up!
Good video. Thanks for posting this. I'm getting ready to start a similar project, and this will help.
My head hurts looking at this plumbing
Thumbs up for inspecting your job, and not just poring concrete on top. Not sure though I'd give B+ for that job.. more like C-. The effort was there, but too many misses. Good you shared though. Cause many other DIYers would just close the floor, and be "done" with that..
It’s good if you to show mistakes. It helps people watching know what not to do. Im sure this next advice is too late but I’ll say it anyway. As for the rubber couplings, even the ones the inspector allows I wouldn’t use. Use glue fittings everywhere you can and when you can’t use a no hub coupling. A 4 band no hub would be even better. When it comes to plumbing under a slab, you want the best connection possible. Also, I don’t know if your area allows wet venting but if so you shouldn’t need that toilet vent. Wet venting just means a drain that also serves as a vent for another fixture. It appears as though the lav drain and toilet vent are side by side so if wet venting is allowed then you could cap off the toilet vent and use the lav drain as a wet vent.
Thanks so much for sharing, so we all can learn. Much appreciated!!
thank you for sharing!!! this is very helpful. appreciate you sharing your experience.
Gracias por compartir tu experiencia y asi no cometer los mismo errores
Thank you for making this video.
If you were like some of the arrogant posters here, you would say something like
"My good friend has been doing a plumbing project and he is going to have to have it inspected. Even though I am not licensed, he knows that I know as more than most Master Plumbers and all inspectors, so he begged me to come look at his work. Now let me show you some of the places he made mistakes so you don't make the mistakes my friend made. I am so smart and handsome."
That is how they make videos.
I get customers like this all the time. They are sure that they know "enough" about a trade to save themselves money and do it alone. Which I may tend to commend them for... And mind you, I've encountered situations way worse than this. But they are called skilled trades for a reason. Hopefully you will find an honest plumber out there. But, save yourself the money and pain in the long run and support local business by calling a plumber in the first place. At least have one come over and tell you what to do. In all my years have I ever gotten a graded inspection, either pass or fail, and in my book, you failed. But, I'll definitely give you an A for effort.
Thanks for sharing. Very helpful
Thanks for the knowledge.
at least he had an inspection. there so much info out there on the net and in books that he could have done it right. he could have had a plumber draw up an isometric dwg . I'm a plumber and that was how I did my material take offs for jobs.
Thanks for educating me ... greatly appreciated ...
You didn't fail if you fixed those items in the end. unless you do this kind of work for a living don't kick yourself over it. It'll be done right and you will have the satisfaction of knowing you did the work not to mention the money you saved.
It's a wonder they didn't make you hard wire the whole thing, with all those rubber fittings underground in there
right on man don't let these dudes who came out the womb with a pipe wrench in hand get you down. we all make mistakes.
FYI your shower pee trap needs a vent too only needs to be a two inch pee trap with 1-1/2 vent
As someone who knows little about plumbing code, I'm pretty surprised that rubber couplings and hose clamps are permitted at all below a slab.
thanks for sharing... unfortunate lesson to learn but it is much appreciated. i learned a lot
I can’t believe they allow you to bury rubber couplings at all...
To bad you didn't install a 4" x 2" combo at a 45 degree angle into the vanity wall. Then with a 2" x 11/2" sanitary tee to catch the lav. sink. As long as you're 42" or less between the weir of the trap and the centerline of the vent, you're cool. Unless, of course, vertical wet vents aren't allowed where you live. Is there someplace where they aren't? But, hey! Everybody's a plumber
Thanks for posting I'm not a plumber but i thing rubber might fail in time so not good for slab floor and what about one size bigger pipes very little extra cost but might work better, The problem with the rubber elbow mabe a clean out snake might put a hole in it. Thanks Pete
Agreed on all counts. The nominal cost of going one size up is so small, that it's worth it. Upsizing also reduces the chance of it clogging. Also, take any elbows and get the longest turn you can. A long turn "sweep" fitting is far less likely to pose a problem, compared to a sharper turn.
Hey man thanks for sharing. It always helps and I learned from your video.
I don't understand why so many complain. Cry babies? All pro trades have made mistakes in the past. This is how to define a pro. A pro knows what not to do from experience of mistakes. We become knowledgeable for 2 reasons. 1 we were taught by the best. 2 we made in the past mistakes we never want to repeat. The repair to correct a mistake takes time and material waste. It is a loss of money and time. We all made them in the past. Reputable companies will correct these problems at no cost to the owner. So my advice it just this. Always get 3 quotes minimum. never go for the company who charge less than 1 4th the cost. never go for the extra quote more than 1 4th the quote of the 3. Tip the high quote maybe good company but don't have the time to take the job. They price high. The low quote maybe not experienced enough to fully understand what is needed for material and or labour. Always check to see if this company is fully insured. And check with local City to see if they have had a permit record. Most small companies will try to get out of permits. These permits are designed to protect both the contractor and the owner. Not all jobs require a permit though. If there is a change to structure, change to plumbing rout, change to electrical rout, this is required. If tie into existing this is not required. However a proper contractor will inform code violations before work starts. This of course will happen after demolitions. We don't have Ex-Ray vision. Most times problems happen durring this stage. expect extra expense. However the contractor should address these problems and discuss A price to correct the situation before the next stage. There should never be a surprise bill at the end. My opinion. Keep good customer relations, always explain why things need changes, for safety and or future problems. The owner only has final say to price. If a contractor is instructed to hide violations by owner? This contractor is shady to do so. We put our name and reputation on a job as a Contractor. We would not do a job that is unsafe. There are ways of cutting cost and stay within code on a final contract. My advice is never let the contractor submit to an unsafe code to cut cost. It could be your family living there. If another family lives there? You would expect it is safe for them? Good video. I love mistakes and how to prevent them much better than a final picture. This is how we advance. ;)
Chris Scott Professional contractors learn by reading and knowing the code as well as the various manufacturers specs! Learning on the back of some poor unsuspecting homeowner is fraud, ie. theft.
Arkansas, one of the hardest for plumbing code, will soon not allow homeowners to pull permits. Yup. Sanitary tee on its back/ side. Can collect solids
beside the mistake. u did a very good job. thanks for the video
Thank you so much for this!
Thanks for the post, helped me out!
The rubber elbow 😁 it's cause concrete would just smash it. I wouldn't even try that if it was allowed.
Nice neat work though 👍
the toilet vent could of just been your lavatory and been a wet vent, no need for two separate lines, plus venting dry or flat is illegal as well, but good attempt !
thank you for sharing -lessons learned.
Did Menards run out of PVC or something, or did you just have a lot of rubber pieces lying around.
Great video. Thanks for sharing!
the vent should be 6 inches above the flood level rim. no big deal, you just have to repipe the entire system, simple fix
You want to run your pipes at a 1/4" grade per foot. Lavatory drain looks steep. If the grade is to steep the water will run off faster than the waste.
a lot of people use rubber fitting with clamps. they assume anything you buy at the store is code. some simple fixes and this basement will be ready to go.
Fernco fittings are approved for use underground but you usually only use them for a cutout/repair, not to do 3/4 of your groundworks with.
"This video sponsored by FERNCO"
Lol 😂
...not to mention your sink drain is first in line to the actual vent...so you just made your sink a vent....so the p trap will always empty everytime you flush the toilet.... 😉
Very tru.We do learn from our mistakes.god bless
Plumbing can be a nightmare, I just shit in a bucket.
I bet your house smells great.
I put a lid over it, I'm not an animal.
That'll help.
Thanks so much for posting this!
thanks for the detailed explanation
Thank you for posting this school lesson!
There is no B+ in an inspection it's pass or fail, at least you tried :).
even if there was a grade on the inspection. I'm sorry to say but F is what I'd have to say. Is there no plumber on this job?
I'm surprised you don't have to replace all the rubber joints.
I learnt a lot from this thanks so much!