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- Germany pledged to make its military the 'backbone of defense in Europe' following Russia's shock invasion of Ukraine two years ago. But revelations of intelligence leaks, equipment failures, and ammunition shortages raise doubt that Germany's military is a fit fighting force, let alone NATO's standard bearer in Europe. What do you think: Is Germany's military up for the job and fit to fight?
Chapters
00:00 Has Russia identified Germany as NATO's weakest link?
05:25 Bundeswehr phone call leak
14:20 Politics of German military strategy
18:58 Recent German military mishaps
57:20 How NATO allies view Germany
01:16:40 What Germany's military needs to change
01:23:20 Takeaways on German military at time of Russia aggression
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I don’t know about whether Germany is NATO’s “problem child” but it’s intelligence services are severely lacking in competence. The US and UK have already stated they don’t share certain info with the Germans for this very reason, this needs to be sorted if they want to earn their allies confidence back
Oh sure German is a “problem child” for sure....its lazy and entitled.....
Yeah the Application reqirements are dumb, and no Intelligence like.
You can do it when you have the middle class School exam and notes that are for the high class needed.
All smart people with no School ejoyment cant do this, becouse of this dumb rules.
Because, Germany is still the WW enemy. This will not change till end of time. Germany adapted this role and is still unsure how to act in an acceptable way. Now they got blamed not to be war ready from warmongers.
@@IPMan-me6lo We are moving already in Europe from inside wars to outside threats to Europe. So Europe as a whole needs Germany and strong army from them. Or if they don't want to build their own army then give that money to others to build stronger EU army.
@@IPMan-me6lo man, even Poland wants germany to recreate its army s it can contribute in meaningful way. No reason to be shy anymore
10:50 is when it actually starts
Bless
thanks dude
@DW Why don't you trim the 10 min intro? I fell asleep long before the programme started.
Thank you Sir, much obliged.
Germany’s industry is capable of rapid modernization and growth. Germany’s military is capable of rapid adaptation to modern warfare and expansion of training capabilities. Germany’s government is incapable of enabling any of this in a timely manner or adequate scale.
Sounds like government is dogma all over the west
Its worse - the government is capable but unwilling... and then they make up excuses and lies why they cant do more....
Couldn’t have stated this any better - regards from Germany
This. Germany's government is capable enough, though. It's just not willing. At least the SPD. It's all about political will - or the lack of it. That has to change.
There is a lack of leadership in Germany, too. At least in certain quarters. German politicians have treated defence as a manufacturing business, unfortunately, rather than as a vital function of the state to protect its people. And to act in solidarity with its neighbours for which the German public as a whole hasn't demonstrated much enthusiasm. This lack of enthusiasm is, in part, because German politicians have for many years avoided discussing this subject seriously with the German public.
Germans are not capable of anything rapid! Show us the results from the 100 billions approved 2 years ago, for the army modernization. Germans are still just talking about it. Nothing done.
Germany is a weak link, but compared to Turkey and Hungary? I would say they are more questionable members of NATO than Germany. Germany is more scared than weak. If NATO has just one problem child I most point at Turkey.
its not even that germany is scared, its that germany gets blocked from any meaningful contribution by the limitations of the german constitution, wich were set by the allied partners (no offensive actions, only defensive etc, full parliamentary control and public discussion etc) and the limitations the UK and France forced upon germany in 2+4 Treaty 1991 (size limitations of the Bundeswehr)
Turcja , można tak powiedzieć,ale jest im z nato po drodze.
@@robertklimczak5630 Turkyie is actively violating NATO rules etc
people forget Europe and the USA did as much as they could so that Germany would not militarize after W2.
Totally agreed, Turkey MUST leave NATO and any European discussions. Hungary is a problem child because of the Russian puppet leader they have, sooner or later that will change. Germany needs to get serious and be a bit more like Poland. You can not lead Europe being a pacifist without an army. Who will respect you? Russia? If you bordered Russia they would have invaded you already.
I believe that the German is truly slow. One example is the lengthy 24-month processing time for student files, even after most countries have managed to adapt their education systems in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. This sluggishness seems to reflect how they handle other matters, not just in the education sector but also in processes like weapons.
Germans love paperwork...they got that from the highly administrative Preussen- the forerunner and mover of German statehood....the old Eastern region of Germany which Bismarck was so famously a part of.
Cóż niemcy powinni przyspieszyć produkcję broni I amunicji.
@@JGldmn333 The Rhineland was part of Prussia as well.
Well Germany is light on helmets after donating 5000 helmets to the war in Ukraine.
..and by being the biggest spender both in the EU and to Ukraine, by far ;)
In Finland we had documentary for this 2 year war now in Ukraine and on the first minutes of the documentary after the war had started it showed Zelensky commenting we might need more than helmets to defend ourselves. Like what the hell were they thinking that their 1st reaction is to send helmets?
@@bombelz Rubbish, Germany is in recession and economically the sick man of Europe. Its an economic basket case. When it comes to spending for Ukraine, the US followed by the UK are the biggest spenders.
@@Curryking32000 calling germany the weak man of europe and citing the doomed UK is pretty wild 😅 US is first but Germany spend more than 7 bn more than UK and took in millions (!) of ukranian refugees
@@Curryking32000not when you adjust for GDP
Olaf is the Chamberlain in today's Europe.. dithering, no resolve, scared
I am Brit and it pains me to say that Scholz is showing no leadership. In fact, he seems to show cowardice and Putin is picking up on this. Luckily Macron is showing leadership and strength which is making Putin nervous.
You have to understand Scholz. He will lose his job with the next election and he has to prepare for something new. And Schroeder will retire soon and the will be a vacant well payed position at gasprom soon....
Beside any sarcasm, i find no other explanation for the desaster my goverment creates at the moment
Napoleon described England as a nation of shopkeepers, it seems that the same could be said of Germany these days.
@@StoptheplanetIwanttogetoff Yet Napoleons fleet was annihilated by Lord Nelson and his army by a coalition under the Duke of Wellington*.
Pretty strong response coming from a Brit giving France a high 5 but i seriously doubt Putin even flinched at boots on the ground Russia my have been surprised 2/24/22 but looks like they are figuring it out. Look at the slow build up in Ukraine and their defense production. Cold War coming
If the germans violate the 2+4 treaty against russia (or the soviet union, but russia is the legal successor of the SSSR in that matter) , the 2 states are at the continuation of ww2 again.
Sunak, Biden or Macron have other options, plus they have a nuclear shield, which germany has not. So CLEARLY germany has to be more cautious than their british french or american "friends", who allegedly have military operatives allready inside ukraine. I think most people don´t understand this distinction, OR they do, and take a nuked germany as an acceptable loss.
If the 2+4 treaty is considered cancelled, no article 5 protection from NATO for germany. Then germany stands with their pants down.
More than 30 leaders against Putin 🤣🤣🤣
A world power Russia against a small Ukrainian army. Two years into their 3 week 'Special Military Operation'. 😂
Be 30 different next year 🤔
We needed more than one military expert here. Journalists that can ‘t distinguish between a tank and an IFV should not be at the table.
Germany must take steps to become a major and assertive military power.
Czyż brak możliwości kupna w rozsądnej cenie i szybko nie spowodowało że kupujemy w korea I usa? Że tworzymy przemysl zbrojeniowy na nowo, naprawdę tworzymy..
Why does the west feel the need to tell Putins regime what weapons they are sending to Ukraine, let that be Russias concern,
Because they’re dealing with a nuclear power, any miscalculation can bring a disaster that the whole of Europe can never recover from
Well, then the "Western" concern will be Russian hypersonic missiles and heavier weapons that Russia can distribute to dozens of anti-Western proxies around the world for decades to come. Is it necessary to get a blow on its citizens and billion-dollar infrastructure both in the "western" territory, and hundreds of US bases and Western ships, oil and gas platforms, chemical and other enterprises around the world in order to get wise? Can't you think ahead? For example, the US administration thinks and understands everything for a long time.
@@wamnichoNor Russia
@@wamnichoYou honestly think Putin has nuclear suicide as a retirement plan? If he’s really that crazy, then your rational half measures are unilateral and equally suicidally insane.
@@ziljanvega3879 doesn’t matter, Putin has repeatedly said that he will use nuclear weapons to fend off a nato attack. You think Russians are addicted to materialism and comfort like in the west, they are willing to die rather than surrender their country to a bunch of globalists. Do you really think if America was attacked by 31 countries, they wouldn’t use nuclear weapons?, no country on this planet can fight off 31 modern armies conventionally without resorting to nukes.
Germany, have you guys heard of Canada? Wanna talk about a weak link? Start there!
Top brass in military discussing what damage a missile could make against a known enemy probably isn't that rare, would be interesting to hear what's been said in the Kremlin about Europe last few years.
Wasn't Rasmussen the NATO-chief in 2014 when Russia took Crimea in 48-hours? What happened to decisive leadership then? Hmmm...
Germany really needs to pull itself up. Greetings from Finland. Conscription is nothing to be afraid of to have and it actually might even help young adults to get that discipline training that doing reserve military training would do. It's a good experience to have for any young adult. Anyway if one side (Russia) is stating that you are our enemy, then whatever you believe you should take those threats seriously, Europe should not care what Russia thinks, but react to their aggressive rhetoric with decisive force. You don't bow to Putler's mafia group and Germany really needs to look at Scholz history with Russia little bit closer at some point.
Gobshite as we say in Ireland
Germany had conscription for a long time and most young men hated it, because it took a year off their life. Britain on the other hand has a long history of a professional army, which has worked quite well for them.
@@Melior_TraianoHere in Finland conscription is viewed SO differently!! It is difficult to describe and I will exaggerate a little for you and others to understand how the thinking goes:
-it is an HONORABLE thing to do and is mostly something young men are proud of taking part in. Although it is an inconvenience.
-And family and friends and ofcourse the girlfriends(! 😄) are so proud of the soldiers.
- As, with this tradition, we HONOUR our grandparents who fought to keep our independence and our beautiful homeland. We keep our promise to them, they did not fight in vain.
- It is also considered as ”boy becomes a man” ritual. As the conscripts are young 18-19 year old they still live with their family, and this is the ”school to become an adult and you move away from home ( first to do the military training where ever it is in Finland, and afterwards the, now MAN, is usually independent and rents or buys his first appartment (and begings studying or working etc.
-Later it is always viewed as a great plus in your CV also whatever work you apply for.
-It is definetly not viewed as ”time vasted that you are forced endure” I have never yet met a guy who speaks badly about the duty. Ofcourse when men talk to each other about it they bring up the misery and hardships they had to endure 😄 But not in a negative way.
So conscription quite deeply rooted in our society. I can add that although women are allowed to do the conscription, 99% of Finnish men do not want women in the army. As in the Winter and Continuation wars, the women kept the country, families and industries running and helped with supplying and medical help of the army.. 33:03
Greetings from a sunny Espoo.
@@geranienbaum My great grandfather fought in WWI, was a Battle of Verdun veteran and received the Iron Cross. My grandfather fought in WWII, was wounded by Sherman tank shrapnel to the leg and was taken as a POW. Do you honestly think that my family isn't deeply patriotic and loves our country? I am saying that a professional army (like the one of Britain) is a valid alternative to conscription and young men shouldn't be forced to serve if they can contribute to society better by pursuing studies etc.. But I agree that modern Germany does not support patriotic values.
Where are the German commendators ? With due respect, how can someone originally from India or Pakistan be a sounding board for the German military ? Honestly, folks in all fairness......
Germany must do more and stop being afraid of Russia!
What can German do after being caught right handed?
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I’m very disappointed in Germany.
I don't trust Nato 😢
thats what putin wants guys…
What did you expect? A suicide squad? Do you honestly think the brits, french and Americans would be so brave in their talking if they didn't have nuclear weapons?
Why are you disappointed ?Would you prefer them to have a war?you go first. 🚶♀️
When it comes to Puma tanks, Küfner is just talking nonsense. They are not victims of budget cuts but of poor technological development. Politicians are not to blame for this, but rather the supplying company. The technical problems were solved in the second lot. The lady also talks about exporting these tanks. I don't know of any exports for the Puma. She also claims that the Pumas are very reliable. There's no way to know, they've never been used in a war effort.
The joke fits
German way to help Russians people to trust more on Putin
Hungary n turkey are the most I think
If Germany brings back conscription, hopefully, women are included since it would be discrimination, not to.
Hmm I consider women’s pregnancies and childbirth being the ”conscription ”x 100, so don’t you men whine about women’s obligation to being part of the army. No way a country survives if the women do not keep the home front running ( industry, supplying the army etc. If you have children, where on earth would you place then during a war??!! One of the parents needs to take care of the children, so each family needs to have the talk who goes to fight and who takes care of the rest… Who is best suited to fight? I promise you 99% of families would choose that the man goes to the army. Or how 1:27:25 on earth did you think it would work???
They have to be included. Children can stay with the grandparents.
@@ErikaRatilainen Why someone has to chose who dies, one parent remains and the other goes 50/50. Most Women can be in roles that are needing more precision as war has changed. Nowadays I have seen many good dads as we live in modern times lets act as such as women have changed but so have men in modern countries. Also after WW2 Germany needed males for the factories, construction work etc., so this is why so many people were imported from Turkey. Maybe if more women were involved and some men were left behind this wouldn't be needed?
Awesome discussion! Really love the format
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28:03 The guest has a great mug!
From 1945 to 1990 half of Germany was East Germany! Dont they remember!
❤❤❤ and it's still occupied by the USA❤❤❤
@@franzehnert392Wieso können wir dann alleine Entscheidungen treffen?
They're the ones who support putin. The dictatorship habit
Sholz is overthinking this... It's real simple. Does Germany want to be on the right side of history... This time?
He should understand that russia understands resolve best. Reagan and jfk also faced a nuclear power.
After 2 years of war in Ukraine, Germany is still sleeping and Scholz haven't grown even a microscopic balls.
Those with non microscopical balls should enlist in Ukrainian army already 😊
You want world war 3? Start thinking. Stop putting my home country DOWN....we are in the middle, not uk....which is a state of USA....think
@@dagmarvandoren9364Olaf put down your country two years ago.
Give Germany more freedom in military operations and permission to have nuclear weapons. Do you honestly think the brits, french and Americans would be so brave in their talking if they didn't have nuclear weapons?
@@santaclaus0815 What do you mean more freedom? Freedom from whom? So Germany is a vassal state?
I am from germany and yeah...thats not the only weakness of this country.
Americans, Brits & Australians are not timid because they have each others back. Perhaps Germans still feel like the outsiders within NATO.
Well if they are not going to put some equal effort into their own defense they should feel like the outsider. BTW let’s not forget about “O” CANADA! 2%=2%
@@bluecollarrepublican3827Canada will remain a joke from a defense perspective until Trudeau is gone.
@@bluecollarrepublican3827 After the US, Germany has send the most weapons and equipment to Ukraine. Look at the defense spending of the UK and their military. I think the once mighty Royal Navy has about 50.000 men left... Defense spending is not only a German issue, its a western issue. Thanks to US military protection, Europeans were able to collect the peace dividend for much too long.
@@bluecollarrepublican3827Not to say there aren't any issues with Germany's military build up, but people tend to forget that Germany wasn't allowed to to put effort into their own defense after the war. It is why the US initially stationed its bases there. It wasn't until the 10s that Germany got a green light to begin really putting the effort into the military and Germany has to walk carefully given its past history. Given that Germany wasn't allowed to build a military for so long, they are behind the curve to begin with, Rome isn't built in a day. Germany will get there.
@@Melior_Traiano agreed the days of easy peace for Europe are over. It didn’t take much for Sweden and Finland to do an about face to join NATO they saved tons of money over the course of 50-80 years. Average working American doesn’t want globalization for a place most of US can’t afford or care about visiting. We do not desire to be “World Police” but our government sure loves to give our $ away. I wish we would draw back hold our own fort and flip the world a bird. Where was NATO after 911. Where was article 5? When has the US asked for $. China gave America $ during our stock market crash because fear of “World Market Collapse”. ALL of NATO should quit pussyfooting around and either give Ukraine EVERYTHING they need or do NOTHING. Too many men women and children dying
Germany are being the sheep to russia
Germany is the one that was planning an attack on a Russian bridge. Russia isn't the one attacking Germany.
You have written everything correctly. Only instead of Russia, you need to write USA.
@@user-oq7uw2sy9sso why did they vote against ukraine into nato in 2008? I thougt a sheep must do everything what the master wants
do your homework about the storm shadow/scalp and stop saying the torus is better!
the storm shadow's range is 560km and he can fly at 30m above the ground!
So the discussion about the Taurus being more effectful than Scalp regarding it's capability reaching and destroying the Kertch Bridge because of it's range be 500 km+ is a ghost discussion, isn't it?
And an important question should be: why are the Scalps/ Storm Shadows cutted down in their possible real range?
@@windinseinemhaar6630 because France and UK have the ability to reduce its range. My guess is that the Germans can't do that with the Torus, that's why they don't give it to Ukraine
Everyone knows NATO was and is fielding against Russia to supress it.
The current situation of the World politics is response of NATO's actions against Russia.
So don't blame totally Russia for this mess.
The question still not answered, who brought Germany in this situation with their confronting politic?
Confronting politics ? Are you asian! Then I have a good story for you! My uncle was head of HR in of the biggest shipping companys in the world! It took them over 35 years to learn and educate the Asian crew to say No and mean it because for decades they have been "learned" that you always should please your "master" or "chief" !
And thats excactly whats going on in Russia..... everything are going according to Putlers plan on the battlefield in Ukraina (or does it) Nobody wants to report anything thats negative or what he does not want to hear (yes sir, everything is ok here.... bla bla.)
That kind of behaviour and leadership are dangerous and we have seen it before in several places on this clode!
But in Germany its more about corruption in top political parties over time with tight bonds to Russian elite! Do I need to name former kancellor Schröder and Gazprom! But also socalled "advisors" !
If you ask their neighbouring contrys e.g. Denmark they will say that Germany are soft in their politics!
German politics hasn't changed since 1945. It's Russia who became democratic in 1990 and returned to imperialism in 2022. Same with America going crazy from 2017 to 2021 all while Germany didn't even change her chancellor.
Why would Germans discuss the scenario if they didn't have the intent. Stop misleading people
Perun does a fantastic talk on the dysfunction of German military procurement. Procurement cycles are too short, allocated monies are routinely canceled, procurement decisions take an incredibly long time, and these factors work together to make it an incredibly unpalatable environment for defense manufacturers. Essentially, if the political will is to create Taurus, it takes years to go from initial design, to pilot testing, then to manufacture. At any point in the process, the funding can be canceled, so a manufacturer could be halfway through building the plant, and boom, funding is gone. As such, defense manufacturers view Germany's procurement process to be unreliable, and if they accept a contract, they jack the prices way up to protect themselves from bankruptcy if the contract gets canceled halfway through the process. It's a miracle that Taurus even exists. Apparently, the procurement of standard helmets used by the US military has been held up for over a decade because someone is trying to determine whether American heads are sufficiently similar to German heads.
yes.
Here is an example of people talking about a topic they know nothing about
Amazing how a brittish person makes fun of the bundeswehrs mistakes after Uk had a mishap with a nucelar bomb just the other week outside of Florida..
The UK had a mishap in Florida ? What?!
A nuclear sub launched a Polaris which detonated prematurely.@@margritpiepes8242
no bomb involved just the US missile that failed
I only heard of a british sub nuclear pipe cooling system was fixed by a chewing gum scandal, prolly only rumors by evil Putin.
@@graveperil2169 Yeah keep coping... I see you havent even read what happened. It wasn't a US missile to begin with..It was UK's Trident nuclear-deterrent missile system that failed..
As an American, 79 years old, I never thought I would ever say France is, by far, the strongest nation in Europe. They can see here in the US we are really a mess and it is up to France to protect Europe. Germany is guilt ridden and from what I read, very corrupt. At least in the US, it is right in our face. I have the utmost respect for France!
And the UK has an incompetent government have dispensed with many conservative MPs due to Brexit. Also the GDP is down either 4%or 5% depending on who you believe. UK spends 2% on Defence and 3% on NHS. Brexit has put both into risk as well as the other EU benefits. The British Military have a great reputation but in reality has been run down by the Tory government. Quote Boris Johnson to the defence committee “we don’t need tanks, there will never be another ground war in Europe”
if germany only has ammo for 48 hrs, does the 1000 B euro go to re-stock 155mm shell ammo?
Did anyone in the EU or NATO plan to wage a war with (trench warfare and) this amount of artillery use in the last e.g. 30 years? No; I never heard of that, whereas many mobile and precise rocket/artillery systems were developed in the west to use in a shoot-and-run approach, to avoid counter artillery and other counter measures.
The Spanish Navy now has the same Tonnage as the German Navy it took 250 years but finally they are equal. In 1942 the German Navy would of been over 10 times stronger than Spain ... the German military is so weak now for its tech and economy and back ground
Clearly Germany needs reform politically and militarily if they want to be able to even defend themselves, without even looking to help other countries.
Tallis expresses a contradiction: he claims that the cheapest solution would be for Ukraine to "win." But a Ukrainian victory would mean an end to the war, and people like Tallis are implying that Russia would then attack another country.
Not if Russia loses it won't!
Our position is totally consistent in this regard.
Russia will only attack another country if it is NOT defeated in Ukraine.
Scholtz should resign.
If Germany's problems were predictable over time!!! Then its time Germany become unpredictable!!!
Well, lets see who was the German minister of defense recently. Oh, she was Ursula von der Leyen. She will be excellent head of an armed EU or NATO. (Ok we know she has a condo in California where her family lives)
Holy smokes
She was minister of defense, yes. But it started in the 90s after collapse of the sowjet empire. We had a good military with over 500000 soldiers
Niemcy pamietajcie,strach sprawiedliwych powoduje ze rosnie sila zlych ludzi. Wiecej wiary i pracy nad przemyslem obronnym.
28:00, “fatigue “? The German public and other European countries’ citizens are going to be feeling fatigue when Russia sends Ukrainian and Polish conscripts into Germany and other NATO countries.
Germany is the most intelligent child among man child and the rest of europe😂
Watching Macron I said that man got balls, then I whisper to Scholz ear "Where's your's?" He replied "I left mine in Moscow" 😅
It's easy sending others to fight while sitting pretty and putting on a show of being a statesman which is exactly what Macron is doing (and looking a tad constipated in the process). He is not going to be anywhere near the front lines. Besides, his move is totally self-serving - he knows he is not popular and is trying to raise his profile on the back of what he believes to be a popular sentiment. Terrible miscalculation, the guy can't read the room if his life depended on it. Not a sign of balls or whatever!
Time for a new chancellor?
the US got that kind of Germany they asked for from the beginning. Now they stop liking what they had asked for.
The “vibe-arino, aka the vibe-ster.”
Biresh Banerjee was in fine form.
The ghost of Steiner is smiling.
Regrettably, Germany's current Chancellor comes across as weak. On China it's Germany's" show me the money" moment. It's all somewhat shameful. Be more resolute Germany , and grow a backbone !!
starts @ 10:45
The UK and France are the only NATO countries in Europe with their own nuclear weapons, which means they are on the same level as Russia. Therefore, it is the UK and France who have the greatest responsibility in this security crisis to push Germany ahead of them, does not look good politically.
A blind man could see Germany as NATO weak Link.
How come people cannot keep information secure any more? Bletchley Park kept its secrets throughout the war and for years after. Churchills secret army also.
Nope. Everyone in NATO knew the state of the German army, unless you are naive enough to believe that NATO does not know who has what and in what state their army is. The only thing that changed is that the subject was brought to the media. All the information was available previously for anyone who bothered to look.
Don’t Look Up
No according to me as a European, the only links weak enough to irritate EU is Hungary and some Russian left overs in Transnistria. I see Ukrainians more as Europeans than Hungarians or Russia fans.
The German support for Ukraine is as one could expect from the Bundesrepublik Deutschland.
So German soldiers don't have encrypted communications? WTH?
We're at a point in history where weakness will be exploited..
Indeed. No fan of Reagan, but he showed strength, and it worked.
No
Germany has the potential to become the most powerful military power in the European Union and a force capable of rivaling the Russians Germany is the 3rd largest economy in the world now surpassing Japan only thing holding the Germans back is the political will let go of the past Europe needs the German military might to protect it from Russian hunger now is the time to show how powerful you are
which is why its going to be Poland instead
What´s the point to have a powerful army, if nobody wants to fight?
@@tomtom34b then they need to be conscripted and no one actually wants to fight but they fight anyways I would much rather die fighting for my life armed and trained then die blinded by a peace that is not real
@@graveperil2169 that is what I have seen and I’m definitely proud of the polish they are the ones I’m seeing are making real concrete steps in becoming a military power Western Europe has shown it isn’t realistically taking the threat of Russia seriously the Eastern European nations of a hungry Military power on its borders swallowing up its neighbor
dude I rather daubt this literally over 50% of the youth wont even fight for this country that is pure cope what u say and Im Germany I dont know even a single man who wants to die for this moneyhungry regime
This kind of title are the ones that are dividing
It’s not just Germany their are many other Countries not pulling their weight UK among them as well as Canada
UK has supplied Storm Shadow, while Germany continues to withhold Taurus.
@@TheCriticalSigma After the US, Germany has provided the most weapons and equipment to Ukraine out of all Western nations. France hasn't even send a single Leclerc MBT.
but at least the UK sent cruise missiles we are not scared of Putler!
The UK is among countries that are helping the most. I'm not British so I'm not biased.
@@Melior_Traiano Interestingly when looking at the detail of military equipment Germany has supplied, Leopards are really the only offensive weapon. Weakness only emboldens Putin... And Sholz is sending mixed signals.
What I think Chancellor Schultz fears is Novichok.
Germany needs Till Lindemann as a Minister of Defense, not that old burger.
Lindemann really likes Russia if you look at some songs he made solo and with Rammstein. He would rather help Putin than being against him.
Germany, the rest of The West forgives you for the past. We need to stop looking back and look forward. We support you, but we ask for your support in return 🇪🇺🇺🇸🇬🇧🇩🇪
And with support us in return, we mean return my bicycle.
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Why no leader its talking about peace instead of more and more weapons
Only the show of strength and strategic ambiguity will prevent this conflict from spilling across the continent. Bullies ALWAYS go after the weakest target and we need to make sure Ukraine and ourselves are not perceived as such!
or Germany realizes that forcing a collapse in Russia would mean chaos in a country that can barely account for all its nuclear weapons already... Ukraine can't be completely taken over but Russia can't be forced to completely lose either.
It's has been the problem child even since it's supported IDF
Does anybody honestly think Victor Orban will full fill his obligation to NATO if we have to fight Putin?
No, but hungary is militarily irrelevant.
You ask Germany to go along with an extremely costly major rearmament, buying overpriced LNG from US and reducing trade with China, but I can't see you offer anything substantial in return (like better access to US markets). Looks like you forgot to sugarcoat the pill, Joe.
after W2 Germany was not allowed to militarize so now they all are complaining they should
No. This question has been asked for 20 years.
❤❤❤ .........its smart thinking gets in the way of stupidity Bravo Herr Scholz ❤❤❤
Germany has floundered upon every requirement, so it is absolutely the weak link.. Arguably weaker than Hungary where you have legitimate Russian assets in government
So if UK and France and all the others are so much better, then why is Germany still the 2nd biggest supporter of Ukraine after the US? Would that not make France and UK even weaker?
Western troll
Armenia-Azerbaijan is important, but what about Europe’s borders in the East?
This Format was really Fun to Watch, i would enjoy to see more of it :)
Let's also not forget that it has taken about this long for all the debts and other issues involving the former east germany to be finally paid off and reckoned with. Not to mention taking apart. A military that was signed off on to be dismantled according to the agreement signed off by gorbachev and others at the time. Only now might Germany be able to truly afford a larger military, but people have to be able to participate. And right now they're not wanting to really do so as individuals. Compulsory military service as was required under the Prussian system. Might be the only realistic idea, Not just because of tradition or apart from it.
Very good dialogue different from normal DW nonsense.
Boris Johnson when Foreign Office Minister told the defense committee that the army does not need more tanks as there will never be a European ground war again. That was after Russia had taken Crimea! In 1938 we screwed up and we have politicians spewing the same rubbish. Military strategists wanted troops to support Ukraine long before the Russians invaded to discourage them from invading. If there had been NATO boots on the ground the world would be safer.
the UK only needs tanks to attack people thanks to its moat
Context is everything. Scenarios are not damming evidence...
I find myself pondering the same perplexing question: How, in this modern era, do we still find ourselves embroiled in conflict? The notion of sending our sons and daughters to war seems archaic and senseless. Perhaps there’s an alternative path-one that doesn’t involve further bloodshed. Let us dismantle the war machine, not through battlefields and weaponry, but by dismantling the ideologies that fuel it. These war mongers, with their god complexes, are not representatives of entire nations; they are individuals driven by hubris and a thirst for power. It is they who plunge us into strife, not the collective citizens yearning for peace. So, let us wage a different kind of war-a war of ideas, compassion, and understanding. Let us challenge the very foundations upon which war rests. For it is only by dismantling the war mongers’ influence that we can truly aspire to a world where conflict is replaced by cooperation, and where the sacrifice of sons and daughters becomes a relic of the past.
Together, let us be architects of peace, not pawns in a game of destruction. 🕊
Germany don't want part of that war
Germany, unprepared for military action, diplomatically challenged, etiquette challenged.
If Russia is able to tap your military communication then think of what else they know
"Problem child" = freeloader?
Germany not necessarily, Scholz most definitely is.
Dependence on NatGas that’s their weakness. Simple as that
Yes Germany needs a strong army
They certainly are Military relevant. Hungry signed into the NATO alliance just like everybody else did.
Russia: CSTO's problem child?
Has Armenia identified Russia as CSTO's weak link?
What to expect, german troops were using unsafe analog comms for years during Nato excercises...
Germans were for years either in the pocket of Moscow or they were a clueless useful idiots.
Either way, no shock on the fact that Germany is now paying the price for that, same as Ukraine.
Scholz is the problem!