What's New In Dive Computers - Scuba Tech Tips: S07E21
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- Dive computers and smartphones are everywhere and most divers have both. Alec shows a wrist dive computer that directly links to your smart phone to set preferences and connects to a diver social network app to share logs, pictures and videos around the world.
Deepblu COSMIQ+ wrist dive computer:
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I still use my other dive computer, but I because of this video, I now also always use the Cosmiq! It’s a really neat dive computer and I love seeing the dive profiles at the end of each dive. Thanks for the video/tip! Fellow Canadian here!
Thanks Ty.
In the 60's we would sit after a dive and draw a picture of the dive profile with lots of notes. Now you can do the same with a push of a button.
Take care.
Alec
Watched your video and instantly purchased this PDC. The moment I need a new bottom timer is exactly now ! ) Thank you!
Hope it works well for you. Let me know.
Take care.
Alec
We carry this computer in our retail store AND we put all our students in it for their open water training. Thanks for a great video!
Dive computers are great, picking one for you is harder. It's like car buying, many 'wants' but not really needed if you know your diving profile.
Thanks for the feedback.
Alec
Great app, thanks
Thanks Andre.
Pretty neat isn't it?
Alec
Alec Peirce Scuba Yes, I'm a new diver in the market for a computer. Will definitely consider this model.
Best price value and nice app for diving
Obviously I was impressed.
Alec
Alec can you do a video or have some insight on full face mask for rec. purposes?
Looking at the budget minded OTS spectrum mask.
I've had the Cosmiq+ since it first came out. It has worked pretty well for me. Screen is very visible (except in very bright sunlight). I really like the strap too, because you can either use it on a bare wrist, over a thick wetsuit and glove, or hanging from a BCD d-ring (upside-down so that you can just look down or lift it up slightly to view it) -- all without changing the wrist band at all (that's why it has those two metal rungs).
Thanks for your input Lars.
Alec
I just upgraded my marez M1 (20 years old and robust. Even after flooding once) to an Aqualung I330R. I am still to use it as I got the flu a few days after getting it 😡. Hopefully next weekend, give the body an extra week.
We all love shinny new scuba gear. Get well and enjoy the new Aqualung.
A.
How about doing a review on the Garmin Decent ?
was seriously considering this unit until read the manual, it very specifically says not to be used as primary computer at altitude or in fresh water, seeing as I am in Alberta, it rules this computer out for me.
Aha! That's what that book is for!!
I didn't see that in the book RD2 or I would have mentioned it.
Maybe I was so impressed by the app interaction that I missed some other points.
It's good that you saw that and I appreciate you sharing that info.
Thanks.
Alec Peirce
Hi Alec, I recently read an article about so called "hybrid bcds" which supposingly give you the best of both wing style bcd and jacket style bcd and I was wondering if you could maybe give your opinion on these. One example of a hybrid bcd would be the Oceanic Atmos. I would appreciate a response very much and I hope you'll be able to help me out on this. Tom
I have used and sold the Atmos. It is a unique BCD since it's really a wing style or back inflate but built in a stab jacket design. Supposedly you get the advantages of a wing style and a jacket style. It seems to work really well.
Again, like fins and masks, BCDs are very personal. Try to arrange a trial dive, even in a pool, before you decide if it's best for you.
Alec
Thanks a lot, Alec!
My dive instructor tried to steer me away from the computer transmitter combo. To me it seems like the best option. Can you point me in the right direction without breaking the bank? Im looking at the Suunto D4i with transmitter for $400 or Mares Quad for $700 (more than id like to spend.)
Your instructor may have had some trouble with earlier computers. That's normal with new technology (you should have seen the first BCs!!). We all had problems with the early computers but they are near perfect now.
Between those 2 I'd certainly lean towards Suunto.
Good luck.
Alec
There is also the aqualung i300c which does the same thing. If you need air integration, the i750TC and I450T have it.
The AQ 1300 is pretty good but not nearly the same.
The LED screen alone is worth seeing and the app (FREE btw, unlike the i300) has incredible capabilities compared to the AQ Divelog. As an older diver I really like the big screen too.
Thanks for sharing.
Alec
Do you have an account in Deepblu app Alec? If so, how to found you there?
Gosh. Never thought of that.
I'll contact them to see if I can be added.
Alec
Great:) Just download the app
looking at the spec on the mobile apps looks like it only has battery for 6-7h continuous dive time (what I do on a wkd boat trip) so require nightly recharge (external usb plug for internal lithium ion battery from what I read) vs couple years on my Suunto AI cobra (very different screen) with watch battery style... Guess those big color screen drain fast...
I think you're right about that and It makes perfect sense. LCD is easy on batteries. LED not so much.
Alec
Thought this would be about the shearwater teric :(
The Teric is another very sophisticated dive computer but doesn't have nearly the capabilities of this one nor the versatility of the free app either. And at less than 1/2 the price too. That's why I was so impressed.
Take care.
Alec
Fwiw and I'm not sure if you are a dealer for them, but Oceanic Pro plus X does everything you've mentioned. They'll even send you a brand new unit if yours bricks, you know in case that ever happens...
Another good point to build a good relationship with your local dive store.
Thanks for watching.
Alec
achilles6312 I really appreciate that you let us know about similar computers. Very useful info! But the price difference is awfully big. As of today, 10/24/19, Cosmiq+ is $349.00, but the Oceanic Pro Plus X is about $995.00. Kind of a no-brainer for us "easy-going, clear, warm, salt water divers".
I have a Shearwater Perdix AI. Connects via Bluetooth to PC, tablet and/or phone with the Shearwater cloud app and program. Holds 1000 dives, has integrated air, tec, trimix, rebreather, recreational and gauge mode. What I'm trying to say is that more dive computers can do these connection tricks. I guess the strong point of this described computer is the social media app. Great if you want to share all of your life online. Probably not for everybody.
but it's also 1/3 the cost of a Shearwater Perdix at around $320 - that's a big difference... but missing AI option is a big downer. I won't go back. Question is are there watch style computers around that price with most/all options ? social part I'm not sure I'm sold on it.
Absolutely right David. Not for everybody. But really neat!! And just $300 too.
Thanks for watching.
Alec
Deepblu (the social media app) is not mutually exclusive to the cosmic. You can run the perdix with it too. I guess if you didn’t want to spend the money on a perdix, you could get the cosmic and utilize the app still if you were to move up later
I like taking videos and photos. What kind of cameras would you suggest to get that could go deep? I am talking about like 200 to 300 feet deep.
Josh Loose
Most underwater camera housings have a rating. Just buy the one that holds and fits your camera.
Warning: some of them are bloody expensive
Most underwater cameras and camera housings that I'm familiar with are rated to 150' (46m).
And trust me, they may not make it that far!! I have personal stories about that!.
I'm sure there are housings that are made to go deeper but I can't help you with that.
Try to reach a good friend of mine Ran at mozaik@housingcamera.com . I hope I have his name right. It's been a while.
They are professional underwater housing people.
Alec
And here I am, with an old uwatec. In fact it is older than me!
Nothing wrong with Uwatec. They have a long history of reliable dive computers and so long as you don't want the newer features and keep the Uwatec is good condition, it'll work fine.
Alec
reading a bunch of reviews on the Cosmiq+ (thinking of picking one as backup to my Suunto AI Cobra if/when depth gauge goes dead which is apparently common) I came across those issues - last one worries me if they haven't fixed that:
* looks like price jumped to $399 (retail) thought it was $299 ?
* very hard to read at surface or shallow on bright days
* short battery life - might only get 4-5 dives before a recharge
* must use phone to set some initial values (time, metrics, etc ) and internet ? (maybe no big deal as only done once)
* most aggressive settings ('progerssive') still very conservative. read it to be similar to Sunnto I own (which is known to be maybe too conservative, with settings to make it even more conservatives!)
* data is locked to their app/website. Most people will own multiple computers brands over the years so having it proprietary is no-go for many. Seen a post of someone creating a custom export to file website.
* does not support deco time well should you pass your NDL by mistake/intentionally - see first comment here reefdivers.io/cosmiq-dive-computer-review/3192
that last is a safety issue. While I avoid deco now (hate waiting in mid water doing nothing) and is all I used to do when diving 40 years ago, I occasionally run into one when hunting.
Thanks Alain.
The price is bound to change from country to country and as it becomes more popular.
Any LED readout is harder to read in bright light. That's one of the downsides to LED. But it's great underwater. Much better than an LCD screen.
Many dive computers do not support decompression. It's quite common and the only reason I've been able to find is the threat of liability. That is, even with great care, decompression sickness is a real possibility if you exceed No Decom times. So manufacturers simply don't provide info beyond NoDecom limits to avoid a lawsuit.
interesting. While the cobra I use isn't a tech diving deco computer, it does clearly state the deco times (in big letters) if you run over NDL - can't recall if the time shorten if you stay in the shallower but still at depth. I recall having a 13min deco time at 15ft (instead of typical optional 3min) which felt like an eternity in open water, especially in great white country :)
No pressure transmitter offered though. I would buy if they had pressure integration
yeah, air integration is must have once you used it on another one... oh well.
I'm sure it will come. The company is aware that it's something divers want.
Alec
I wonder if it is something they can easily integrate into their existing computers in that they are already bluetooth compatible. Would just need a bluetooth transmitter (that works under water) and an update to their firmware.
No wireless air integration?
No. Can't change gases at depth either. But in terms of a basic computer it's great, and only $300.
you mean $399
Alain Dumesny got mine for 300, but yeah, 399 is more likely.
$300 for all those features - even better than I thought!
AI is a nice feature and I'm sure it will be available soon.
Changes gases at depth is hardly a deal breaker. How many divers need that? How many even know what it's for?
Hard to beat.
Thanks for your input guys.
Alec
Lars where did you get it for $300 ? I do see it at 320 on aliexpress/ebay...
Alec, do you think a software upgrade might support AI ? I was gonna ask them... it already has bluetooth to the phone, but didn't check what wireless Air uses... seems like a big omission. I have an older wireless computer and wonder if the Air transmitter are generic between brands (oceanic/Aeris)
I am just getting certified and looking to purchase my first dive computer. I would like air integrated. I will be renting everything but my Personal Gear for a while. Do Dive shops let you hook up your hose connected Dive computer to their equipment? Is a hose connected computer a good idea if you will be renting equipment? The hose connected air integrated units seem to be more affordable than the wireless wrist air integrated units. Is there something I am not thinking about?
Hi Tim. A good dive shop should allow your personal air integrated dive computer into their rental 1st stage. They should attach it for you to ensure it is properly connected, not too tight as the O-ring is what seals, not brute force. Remember to remove your computer when returning the rental.
Air integrated computers are what I consider part of every divers personal gear, just like a mask, fins, snorkel. It keeps all your dive history and your more comfortable operating it than a strange rental computer or gauges.
Points to remember:
- When the hose is disconnected from the 1st stage, cover the end with a small zip loc bag and rubber band to protect it from getting any particles inside that tiny high pressure opening.
- Depending on your eye sight, ensure the air hose length is not so short that its hard to focus on the display.
- Remember even dive computers need a good rinsing (see previous videos) to keep the buttons working.
Enjoy your dives and glad these videos help keep you in the sport.
Alec
I think it be better if it also had a wireless transmitter with it
That would be the ultimate and I'm sure we'll see a computer with that soon - this one or one like it.
Thanks.
Alec
Poseidon m28 does the same :)
Yeah, compare the prices. I didn’t even bought the m28 even I have Poseidon 7.
Jeez, I don't think the Poseidon has nearly the features and certainly not the connectivity to your mobile. To me that's the best part of this computer. Everything goes into your mobile device so you can play with it in the app - share, edit, change settings, etc.
Plus the price difference! This is much less than 1/2 the price.
The Poseidon is good all right but not the same at all.
Alec
I'm sorry to sound like a troll but this is not a video about what's new in dive computers... This is a sponsored video about one particular brand/dive computer, no mention of similar models in other manufacturers nor about what other new things other manufacturers might have introduced...
The video title should be more specific about what the video really is, not click bait biased!
"What's New In Dive Computers" is what we chose because "An Exciting New Dive Computer That Shows The Application Of Modern Technology" wouldn't fit in the title.
This was NOT sponsored.
We couldn't find any other dive computer with a similar app offering the same features.
Sorry.
Alec
They’d like to be the xiaomi in the industry.
Hah! If they keep improving it they might get their wish.
All that for $300!!
Alec
Scuba to Cuba
Ok. When do we leave?
Alec
@@AlecPeirceScuba_SeaHunter Now THAT was funny!
If you are going to do a review, do a real review. This is a "hey, isn't this cool." Which is okay, but not as good as most of your vids.
Didnt you hear what Alec say in the video? He will not talk about the functions. This computer is ”cool” because of the social media function - that what this video is about. And it is cool😁
I don't think we intended this as a review. I don't really do reviews as much as awareness. You can read all about it on-line.Sometimes things are just cool.
Sometimes things are so neat that they deserve to be shared.
I saw this and was impressed but ... it's not for everybody.
Thanks for watching.
Alec