I stopped using my high end armour in most matches because this type of weapon and dumdum ammo is all people are using this season. Losing tier 5 and tier 6 to some guy with a 50k kit and a bolt action gets old real fast.
tarkov never should have kneecapped the mosin, that bullet should put you down if it makes it through your armor, also ofc its going to one tap to the head its the most expensive bullet, i dont get his gripes here, "im shooting level 6 helmets and killing them" yeah bro thats headshots for ya
You cannot allow this in a HARDCORE extremely punishing game, back when Mosin was this insane, everyone and their whole family ran it with a scope and bullets in pocket with nothing else, camping everywhere and one tapping on CHEST. This literally ruined Tarkov for a whole lot of people. It was the best decision to kneecap that trash because mosinlings ruined it for the whole community. I do not understand how people still defend that shit lol. And I am not even playing for a looong while. ffs
Tbf tho, snb is tier 6, penetrating nd one shotting t4 sounds reasonable, it's the base damage that's high with it the penetration is not high, + the material of the armor matters too
@@Kissiehyudo exactly, i dont believe it is as unbalanced as he says, i miss when the mosin was an actual threat in tarkov, i hope they dont kneecap it in this game
In practicality, most people don't use the Mosin, the M24 is prefered. The ADS in mobile is slower than in PC, coupled that with the lowest ergo unless modded and the Mosin is just not fun to use. Think that they should add constant damage reduction rather than staying with the mechanic that they have for both version currently.
He meant for balance... Every noob can pull off a chest shot. This means you can't even tank 1 chest shot and outplay your enemy, and it is going to lead to people not moving at all....
no shiit sherlock he knows how guns work , he shoots guns A LOT and owns a few of them lol he was trying to look at it from a gaming perspective... he was not talking about what was causing the high amount of damage , he was questioning why they put the damage numbers that high.....balance reasons
Well seeing as the damage is higher in a different gun it's definitely a buff. And the mosin does not have a longer barrel than the svds so explain the damage difference when the ammo says 74 damage
@@agentmikster44 Wich realism ? Tarkov have no realism at all on the ballistic damage. The only damage they got right is a bullet in an uncovered face :p
@@nutinmyeyes5803 Its level 7 ammo they just need to make it more expensive and possibly make the longer barrel more expensive so its not so cheap to run.
tier 6 one taps tier 4. tier 4 and tier 3 ammo however do 81 base damage, u can one tap lv3 armor with LPS, and u can one tap naked guys with t3 ammo. also, you have to consider that 7.62x54 is probably the best caliber in the game tarkov included, so if u aim carefully you can one shot EVERYTHING to the face as long it doesnt exceed t4 with lps.
How is the highest tier mosin ammo "broken" i lost all respect for you dude. Again people pick and choose their realism. You died and cried change the game
Yea I agree with you, that bullet SNB is like t6 or t7 (I forgot) ofc it will penetrate t4 armor except like a freaking dum dum ammo that ammo especially for raw body (no armor) that's why dum dum is the best to destroy legs (or maybe he just thinking ABI is the same mechanic thing as EFT, so that's why he didn't want to believe that he got 1 shot in the chest with that ammo)
So after checking it out on the gun range, it looks bullets have two modifiers to their damage. The first being muzzle velocity and the second being what armor you are shooting at in correlation to the tier of your ammo. The higher your muzzle velocity the higher the damage you will be doing with the bullet, which does make some sense. The next thing that matters are your bullets, if you are over penning enemy armor (tier 6 ammo vs class 4 armor) you will be doing extra damage. The opposite is also true (Tier 4 armor vs class 4 armor), you'll be doing less damage than the tier 6 bullet even though you have higher base damage since your bullet isn't having as easy as a time flying through enemy armor. Overall, pretty cool way to handle armor tbh
What's the point of having bolt actions if they are not for 1 tap? Might as well use a damn cheap Sks if they do 2-3 shots before they kill. Any human beings would be DEAD getting shot by SNB or 7N, let alone .338. That would leave a hole in your chest with the size of a fricking baseball.
Tarkov is slowly turning more into an arcade game and away from realism. Generally, the one who hits first has the advantage, not who has the better armor and gun who laser beam you after all your bullets get soaked up by their armor. They should introduce bruising and blunt damage.
The worst part is that he's complaining that a SNIPER round would kill someone with any kind of helmet. These extraction shooters are getting ruined by these streamer Chads. Smh
The scope sway is crazy on mobile. It starts at x5 and above for most guns but for bolt actions and carbines, the scope sway is hard to control at x4 Its like trying to shoot while reloading, but in pc it seems to be more stable as he just spammed quick scope on that target dummy thats 50meters away. Also all bullets one taps neck and face, and has a chance to go through face shields. Chest one taps are rare but technically most of them are not damage done by the bullets, it’s often the bleed and fall damage that insta down you/ kill you since you got no chest. Painkillers may negate this though
If the Mosin gives a 1.15 multiplier, then with the base damage of SNB being 74, the damage dealt would be 85.1. If devs drop SNB damage by 1 point to 73, the damage dealt with the Mosin's 1.15 multiplier would be 83.95. 85 damage dealt one taps to the chest, 84 does not. Thoughts?
This is what I think they will end up doing (hopefully) but they would need to go a few points lower. The shot will most likely cause a bleed and it will then need to be healed almost instantly to prevent a 1 shot death. They would need to drop it by 5 points in my opinion. Best case would be nerfing the damage and limiting the ammo to a set amount per reset. Limiting the availability combined with a slight nerf is the only way to avoid a mosin meta of everyone just camping naked with mosin on forbidden zone.
have you seen a body shot with a normal 5.56 round to the chest? The said ammo in this video will blow everything you have and turns it into baby powder. There would be no realism if you survive a round like that. Here is that we have another streamer crying like a baby cause he lost and got dabbed on, on his stream, that's all.
The ballistic damage of this game look like the one in call of duty. People are just "walking panzer" now. The amount of shots that you can survive with a good armor is totally absurd.
This gun is not a problem in mobile. Very rare to get 1 tap chest shots. The gun is super slow and is outclassed by so many more guns. You aim for the head with Mosin, not the chest. Arm hit boxes block like 1/3 or more chest shots alone.
I love how he says, you can't one tap lvl 4 armor with a mosin....As somebody that owns many mosins...Ol Landmark is just having a little crying moment.
@@tommyscars7966 This is what pisses me off with this game, he claim to be realistic but all the ballistic damage against armors and helmets are totally off.
considering that only the mosin has this, yes its strong but i wouldnt call it broken, cuz it comes down to how skilled the mosin user is. and cuz mosin has the worst ergo it really does put u in a disadvantage
I own a moson. They are beasts. My long barrel is most amazingly accurate. The Russian high velocity steel ap core rounds will go through about 1/3 in hardend steel plate.
Mosin is broken on mobile too, that problem exists entire year on mobile too, we were killing T7 thermals with mosin and 10k loadout on night storm mode event, I personally have about 5 thermal kills in single week with just mosin. 8 from 10 streamers (mobile streamers) are frustrated about stuff like that, because they are complaining about it for almost year and nobody cares from LevelInfinite and like they ban people randomly like, I've heard from many people around me they got banned because they played with random (auto matchmaking) and they got banned for entire year, and same thing happened to several streamers too, like "Kivi" one of the mobile Arena Breakout streamer stopped playing game for almost a month, because they banned him for playing with a "hacker" and that hacker was also streamer playing from iOS (iPAD) with Video evidence that there were no cheat or anything involved and there are lots and lots of problems that you'll see when they'll launch game, so if you are thinking this company handles way better than BSG does, you'll be very dissapointed when it goes global and those types of shit still exists and they don't care about community opinion nor streamers etc. also first death was a desync, that's one of the biggest problem even on mobile it existed for entire year, it's a peek lag when you peek and then unpeek and they still see you because of desync and even in death reply, there was no visual of you, it's just shots were fired and you died kinda bugs, I was so excited when I heard it's lauching on PC, and now I see same shit happens on PC version too and I play daily and same terrible handling of connections and everything, I hoped that PC has much more power and they would not have same problems, but it seems it's just their servers are supper terribly optimized, lobby is laggy on PC and it's same on mobile. so people say it's beta and it'll be better on launch, but how I don't understand, it was same on mobile in beta... and it's launched for year already and they didn't fix it. so I don't expect them fix it on PC, they never do so... that's just sad, that their developers made really good product and LevelInfinite management is just ruining it, same as BSG and nikita doing with Tarkov.
On mobile it’s the same u just have to shoot on the part the armor not covering. U can heatshot a t4 helmet if u shoot on ear or the neck. This game is crazy
Landmark you need to check the weapon stats and the bonus that the barrel gives, some weapon pieces gives extra damage to the ammo. Tip: I think their is a longer barrel available for the SVDS, I think that is the missing piece for you to have a semi-auto marksman rifle completly broken. 😂 Plus: "it is way harder on mobile to headshot". Bro, never saw mobile players playing, all Im gonna say is we can react faster than what you think😂 If you ar complaining of SNB wait until AX-50 is added.
I assume SNB is better for sniping while 7N31 is better for quick-fire weapons (the SVD) going against higher tier chest armor. Rapid-fire 2-taps to the chest.
It’s not broken it’s realistic 🤣. It may be 74 damage, but different barrels add or decrease damage just like IRL. No one runs T4 on mobile anyways because we all know that Mosin Timmies can 1 tap us.
Why can't you have that? if someone is running a certain type of armor that is inferior to another person's type of ammo, then 1 taps to the chest are possible. What's wrong with that? It just means you needs to run level 5 armor. if someone is willing to spend $2k per round on lvl 5 ammo then the counter is spending enough money to counter that. which would be lvl 5 armor.
A bolt action will have a higher velocity than a semi auto. Especially if it has a longer barrel. The chamber is closed and doesn't cycle. All that pressure goes one way unlike a semi that uses gases to cycle the gun. People moan games aren't real enough then moan when it doesn't benefit them.
Actually, that’s not true. Bloke on the range did a video and the conclusion was the kinetic energy loss is minimal to nonexistent. In some cases, the semi automatic rifle had higher fps. Also, a recoil operated gun and blowback gun are semi auto and no gas is redirected to actuate the firearm, just the recoil
I just want to say to people getting mad or hell even landmark like you are dealing with what we have dealt with for yearsss of playing these games. You still easily have a 55-60% success rate. For us normal players I’m sorry the 80% rate your used too. I think a 50+ rate is what balance looks like in these just making cash. And I think people forget this is a beta that’s been out for three weeks and look how far it’s come
brother i have found the broken meta sj16 with best ammo doesx 84 damage thru lvl 6 armor and 1 shots anything. mosin wont one tap above 4. sj16 is 84 damage with pen thru the best armor and one taps any helmet
I didn’t feel like scrolling as the answer may already be in the comments, but how are you playing this, is it an extended play test? and when is this coming out to us common folk?
Its a beta test of the pc version, it should be available for everyone also it can be downloaded via steam. If it isnt available, then maybe the beta test already ended.
its in closed beta at the moment. You can get a key when they do twitch drops. Game is still going. They will release open beta some time within the couple few months, if not sooner, then everyone can play without a key for free.
I comment this same thing on the other video thibking it was this one I built this same gun on molbile and tested it out. And it wouldnt even 1 tap a chest shot on tier2 armor. I dont remeber for sure but even on tier1 it wouldnt work. So they ethier fix both since this vidro. Or they messed up on infinate. And it shouldnt 1 tap on chest and about the head maybe idk with tier 6
Yeah they might need to change snipers in pc, in mobile they like that and still no one uses them cz...mobile, but in pc it's pretty ez to 360 no scope someone with a fkin ax-50
@@InjokeRx i get the joke but i got say aim in mobile is really easy i can quick scope people 20 meter away with 90% hit and 100meter away with 90% if it have long range scope 🫠
@@THON176 This is like someone saying they know how to play soccer and then showing a video of 12 year olds making a goal. Sure you can hit shots its not even close to what good Pc players can do. It's not just accuracy % its also reaction and how fast you can get the shots off. you simply can't 180 on mobile like you can on pc its a hardware limitation not "haha mobile gamers bad".
@@Dem0n123-w4m bro there alot of good gamer almost 80% of the game im one of them too yes when you play alot you have skill and reaction time faster than pc player
Good on Tony for calling out a major issue with the game. You cannot have cheap bolt actions with ammo that is only ~3K a round 1 tapping nearly anyone with a 300K+ kit on. There will only be rat mosin squads camping around. NEED to restrict SNB/AP ammo.
I usually agree with your takes, but youre talking about the best (and most expensive) ammo vs tier 4 armor. Youre also assuming people are going to hit their first shot, which if youre using a mosin you better hit your first shot cuz you might not get a chance to shoot another.
It's a knee-jerk reaction. It's typical from streamers who believe that they are invincible in their mid-tier kits. It happens in other games too. "I died?! This is unfair and unbalanced!"
nah getting one tapped without even seeing ur opponent who could be anywhere from within 100 meters just feels bad, its not fun gameplay, if ur playing arma or something sure keep ur realism but for an arcady extraction shooter lets make it as fun as possible
I don’t understand why this is “broken”. What’s so special about level 4 armor? Just run level 5-6. You don’t run level 1-3 so don’t use level 4. The price of a lvl 4 vs lvl 5 armor is not too much.
Holy shit lvndmark is crying. Its not broken that a bolt action rifle one shots lvl4 armor. If a bolt action doesnt one shot with its best ammo, its gonna be useless. Cant believe lvndmark is crying like a fucking baby.
nothin like summit complaining in the background half the video
What else is new? His stream is literally just him complaining about 'games' when it's usually his idiocy.
@@Nevario1 hahaha wait people dislike summit? thats hilarious
Yeah it's the classic summit "I died in this game so therefore the game is bad and it wasn't my fault that I died to said thing"
@@RicePanda yeah but only baby raging about it instead of making good points haha
Love it, budget. Options that allow all players complete with the gigachads. Streamers will f it up crying.
I stopped using my high end armour in most matches because this type of weapon and dumdum ammo is all people are using this season.
Losing tier 5 and tier 6 to some guy with a 50k kit and a bolt action gets old real fast.
tarkov never should have kneecapped the mosin, that bullet should put you down if it makes it through your armor, also ofc its going to one tap to the head its the most expensive bullet, i dont get his gripes here, "im shooting level 6 helmets and killing them" yeah bro thats headshots for ya
You cannot allow this in a HARDCORE extremely punishing game, back when Mosin was this insane, everyone and their whole family ran it with a scope and bullets in pocket with nothing else, camping everywhere and one tapping on CHEST. This literally ruined Tarkov for a whole lot of people. It was the best decision to kneecap that trash because mosinlings ruined it for the whole community. I do not understand how people still defend that shit lol. And I am not even playing for a looong while. ffs
Tbf tho, snb is tier 6, penetrating nd one shotting t4 sounds reasonable, it's the base damage that's high with it the penetration is not high, + the material of the armor matters too
@@Kissiehyudo exactly, i dont believe it is as unbalanced as he says, i miss when the mosin was an actual threat in tarkov, i hope they dont kneecap it in this game
In practicality, most people don't use the Mosin, the M24 is prefered. The ADS in mobile is slower than in PC, coupled that with the lowest ergo unless modded and the Mosin is just not fun to use.
Think that they should add constant damage reduction rather than staying with the mechanic that they have for both version currently.
He meant for balance... Every noob can pull off a chest shot. This means you can't even tank 1 chest shot and outplay your enemy, and it is going to lead to people not moving at all....
that's not a buff, mosin simply has longer barrel, so higher bullet speed and accuracy. thats why, not because "buffs from mobile"
no shiit sherlock he knows how guns work , he shoots guns A LOT and owns a few of them lol
he was trying to look at it from a gaming perspective...
he was not talking about what was causing the high amount of damage , he was questioning why they put the damage numbers that high.....balance reasons
@@Deathscythe91 I guess you didn't watch the video.
@@ceizum_twitch hard for him to watch a video when he's dickriding lol
@@Deathscythe91 do you even have any idea what you talking about?
Well seeing as the damage is higher in a different gun it's definitely a buff. And the mosin does not have a longer barrel than the svds so explain the damage difference when the ammo says 74 damage
As a person that has been playing AB mobile, you have now given me a reason to rush Valley lockdown and run SNB's
You have now* ?
;)
anime profile picture. ofc you play mobile games
@@Simtalnius common man I guy can enjoy pixel art of all things now
Watch out for the thermal bush wookie's!!!! (and their M110-S kits)
@@tacticalnache7153I hate those mf
Okay, that's wild that you can test that stuff at the range like that.. WOW.
IMAGINE
Can anyone see my comment? Because it dissapears after i comment for some reason
lmao but running around in T6 armor taking full mags to the chest is okay
Solid point
I feel like realism has taken a huge nosedive with how OP high level armor is now with how many shots Chads can survive if you're a Timmy.
@@agentmikster44 Wich realism ? Tarkov have no realism at all on the ballistic damage. The only damage they got right is a bullet in an uncovered face :p
It is the barrel length that magnifies damage, the Mosin has a long barrel in the default build you can get from traders.
Like watching lvndmark till he doesn’t get his way and pouts ab it lmao
Mosin when you want to spite people from afar, double shotty SG when you want to do it up close. pretty cheap and fun to use.
SNB base damage is 74 but if you got Mosin sniper barrel it adds extra 11 damage to the SNB ammo
Tip for idiots Just buy the longest mosin and run SNB
It always makes me laugh when people complain about things being OP and then don't even know how things work lol
@@massaBeard you are insane if you remotely think mosin with snb isn't op even after understanding it
That goes the same for other guns like Fal, barrel with strong firepower will increase bullet damage
@@nutinmyeyes5803 Its level 7 ammo they just need to make it more expensive and possibly make the longer barrel more expensive so its not so cheap to run.
@@josephpuentes7576 i agree with you, the whole problem is that mosin is cheap to run. Also snb is lvl 6.
The explanation is clearly on the screen😂
tier 6 one taps tier 4.
tier 4 and tier 3 ammo however do 81 base damage, u can one tap lv3 armor with LPS, and u can one tap naked guys with t3 ammo. also, you have to consider that 7.62x54 is probably the best caliber in the game tarkov included, so if u aim carefully you can one shot EVERYTHING to the face as long it doesnt exceed t4 with lps.
That is t6 ammo afterall
they either nerf the ammo/guns that one tap or buff the lower tier armor and nerf the 338 cuz t4 feels like paper
Nah it is pretty good in my opinion
it one taps t5 in the chest what you mean
How is the highest tier mosin ammo "broken" i lost all respect for you dude. Again people pick and choose their realism. You died and cried change the game
Yea I agree with you, that bullet SNB is like t6 or t7 (I forgot) ofc it will penetrate t4 armor except like a freaking dum dum ammo that ammo especially for raw body (no armor) that's why dum dum is the best to destroy legs (or maybe he just thinking ABI is the same mechanic thing as EFT, so that's why he didn't want to believe that he got 1 shot in the chest with that ammo)
Sorry my English is bad
lmfao, thats all streamers do. They cry their ass out and devs change the game to suit the cry babies. Whoever cries harder get their way
Ik right what a cry baby
So after checking it out on the gun range, it looks bullets have two modifiers to their damage. The first being muzzle velocity and the second being what armor you are shooting at in correlation to the tier of your ammo. The higher your muzzle velocity the higher the damage you will be doing with the bullet, which does make some sense. The next thing that matters are your bullets, if you are over penning enemy armor (tier 6 ammo vs class 4 armor) you will be doing extra damage. The opposite is also true (Tier 4 armor vs class 4 armor), you'll be doing less damage than the tier 6 bullet even though you have higher base damage since your bullet isn't having as easy as a time flying through enemy armor. Overall, pretty cool way to handle armor tbh
What's the point of having bolt actions if they are not for 1 tap? Might as well use a damn cheap Sks if they do 2-3 shots before they kill.
Any human beings would be DEAD getting shot by SNB or 7N, let alone .338. That would leave a hole in your chest with the size of a fricking baseball.
Tarkov is slowly turning more into an arcade game and away from realism. Generally, the one who hits first has the advantage, not who has the better armor and gun who laser beam you after all your bullets get soaked up by their armor.
They should introduce bruising and blunt damage.
The worst part is that he's complaining that a SNIPER round would kill someone with any kind of helmet. These extraction shooters are getting ruined by these streamer Chads. Smh
Just wait till the Ax50 with M2 gets added xd
loving the new content, keep up the good work....
I've never been killed and analyzed the cause like that...nice work😂
The scope sway is crazy on mobile. It starts at x5 and above for most guns but for bolt actions and carbines, the scope sway is hard to control at x4
Its like trying to shoot while reloading, but in pc it seems to be more stable as he just spammed quick scope on that target dummy thats 50meters away.
Also all bullets one taps neck and face, and has a chance to go through face shields.
Chest one taps are rare but technically most of them are not damage done by the bullets, it’s often the bleed and fall damage that insta down you/ kill you since you got no chest. Painkillers may negate this though
If the Mosin gives a 1.15 multiplier, then with the base damage of SNB being 74, the damage dealt would be 85.1. If devs drop SNB damage by 1 point to 73, the damage dealt with the Mosin's 1.15 multiplier would be 83.95. 85 damage dealt one taps to the chest, 84 does not. Thoughts?
This is what I think they will end up doing (hopefully) but they would need to go a few points lower. The shot will most likely cause a bleed and it will then need to be healed almost instantly to prevent a 1 shot death. They would need to drop it by 5 points in my opinion. Best case would be nerfing the damage and limiting the ammo to a set amount per reset. Limiting the availability combined with a slight nerf is the only way to avoid a mosin meta of everyone just camping naked with mosin on forbidden zone.
have you seen a body shot with a normal 5.56 round to the chest? The said ammo in this video will blow everything you have and turns it into baby powder. There would be no realism if you survive a round like that. Here is that we have another streamer crying like a baby cause he lost and got dabbed on, on his stream, that's all.
The ballistic damage of this game look like the one in call of duty. People are just "walking panzer" now. The amount of shots that you can survive with a good armor is totally absurd.
Don't change the game because crybaby streamers who won't play the game anyway after the hype simmers.
it’s one of the highest tiers and damaging bullets you have to have tier 6 armor to have a chance at blocking it
This gun is not a problem in mobile. Very rare to get 1 tap chest shots. The gun is super slow and is outclassed by so many more guns. You aim for the head with Mosin, not the chest. Arm hit boxes block like 1/3 or more chest shots alone.
In Mobile SNB have tracers trail effect so if someone killed by SnB, their teammates can pin point the sniper positions
I love how he says, you can't one tap lvl 4 armor with a mosin....As somebody that owns many mosins...Ol Landmark is just having a little crying moment.
For the purpose of a game tho man 😂 real life is a bit different
@@tommyscars7966 This is what pisses me off with this game, he claim to be realistic but all the ballistic damage against armors and helmets are totally off.
The level 6 armor system is what is game breaking
considering that only the mosin has this, yes its strong but i wouldnt call it broken, cuz it comes down to how skilled the mosin user is. and cuz mosin has the worst ergo it really does put u in a disadvantage
I think you're complaining too much about this
Yall are gonna find out real quick what its like for devs to change their game because this guy whines. Ask about what happened to the asval
I own a moson. They are beasts. My long barrel is most amazingly accurate. The Russian high velocity steel ap core rounds will go through about 1/3 in hardend steel plate.
Mosin is broken on mobile too, that problem exists entire year on mobile too, we were killing T7 thermals with mosin and 10k loadout on night storm mode event, I personally have about 5 thermal kills in single week with just mosin. 8 from 10 streamers (mobile streamers) are frustrated about stuff like that, because they are complaining about it for almost year and nobody cares from LevelInfinite and like they ban people randomly like, I've heard from many people around me they got banned because they played with random (auto matchmaking) and they got banned for entire year, and same thing happened to several streamers too, like "Kivi" one of the mobile Arena Breakout streamer stopped playing game for almost a month, because they banned him for playing with a "hacker" and that hacker was also streamer playing from iOS (iPAD) with Video evidence that there were no cheat or anything involved and there are lots and lots of problems that you'll see when they'll launch game, so if you are thinking this company handles way better than BSG does, you'll be very dissapointed when it goes global and those types of shit still exists and they don't care about community opinion nor streamers etc. also first death was a desync, that's one of the biggest problem even on mobile it existed for entire year, it's a peek lag when you peek and then unpeek and they still see you because of desync and even in death reply, there was no visual of you, it's just shots were fired and you died kinda bugs, I was so excited when I heard it's lauching on PC, and now I see same shit happens on PC version too and I play daily and same terrible handling of connections and everything, I hoped that PC has much more power and they would not have same problems, but it seems it's just their servers are supper terribly optimized, lobby is laggy on PC and it's same on mobile. so people say it's beta and it'll be better on launch, but how I don't understand, it was same on mobile in beta... and it's launched for year already and they didn't fix it. so I don't expect them fix it on PC, they never do so... that's just sad, that their developers made really good product and LevelInfinite management is just ruining it, same as BSG and nikita doing with Tarkov.
also as far as i know (on mobile) a bullet 2 pen tiers above the armour you hit completely ignores the armour and has no damage reduction
The reason why it do 85 damage on the mosin is because of a Hidden Stats on the Sniper Barrel, it adds up +15 damage
14 minutes of my life I'll never have back
Damage is increase if it pents 2 tiers below
how much?
id imagine that maybe the muzzle velocity could affect it more so wich could explain why the svd doesnt onetap
Mosin needs the animation from Grayzone where he holds the current round with his pinky!
Mosin filling out the AX50's role
In the PC version could u imagine a squad of AX50 they should debuff the mosin tbh
as far as i know 7n is for long range penenetration, cause more range it reduce penetration
Snb base damge is indeed 74 but with a longer Barrel adds damage
Mosin runner stocks goin through the roof... great
On mobile it’s the same u just have to shoot on the part the armor not covering. U can heatshot a t4 helmet if u shoot on ear or the neck. This game is crazy
Wait till he hears about the AX-50
You just need SNB Bullet and modified Long Barrel Mosin, that will do
Landmark you need to check the weapon stats and the bonus that the barrel gives, some weapon pieces gives extra damage to the ammo.
Tip: I think their is a longer barrel available for the SVDS, I think that is the missing piece for you to have a semi-auto marksman rifle completly broken. 😂
Plus: "it is way harder on mobile to headshot".
Bro, never saw mobile players playing, all Im gonna say is we can react faster than what you think😂
If you ar complaining of SNB wait until AX-50 is added.
I assume SNB is better for sniping while 7N31 is better for quick-fire weapons (the SVD) going against higher tier chest armor. Rapid-fire 2-taps to the chest.
and this is why its still in beta for things like this to be found and fixed obviously shouldnt be this way
It’s not broken it’s realistic 🤣. It may be 74 damage, but different barrels add or decrease damage just like IRL. No one runs T4 on mobile anyways because we all know that Mosin Timmies can 1 tap us.
the snipers one tapping you with like t4 or t5 just feels so bad
cant wait for him to find out about AP20 with M870 long barrel
Why can't you have that? if someone is running a certain type of armor that is inferior to another person's type of ammo, then 1 taps to the chest are possible. What's wrong with that? It just means you needs to run level 5 armor. if someone is willing to spend $2k per round on lvl 5 ammo then the counter is spending enough money to counter that. which would be lvl 5 armor.
well i guess you can 1 tap everything in the game. AP slugs for lvl3 and below and SNB for lvl4 and above LOL
76.2x54 is a big round, if that gets past your armor, your screwed, simple as that
wait till he finds out about the ax50 and ar30
A bolt action will have a higher velocity than a semi auto. Especially if it has a longer barrel. The chamber is closed and doesn't cycle. All that pressure goes one way unlike a semi that uses gases to cycle the gun.
People moan games aren't real enough then moan when it doesn't benefit them.
Actually, that’s not true. Bloke on the range did a video and the conclusion was the kinetic energy loss is minimal to nonexistent. In some cases, the semi automatic rifle had higher fps.
Also, a recoil operated gun and blowback gun are semi auto and no gas is redirected to actuate the firearm, just the recoil
That's not fair, WOMP WOMP
Damn just going say love you gamers see yall at full game release
Same on android version 😂 thx for the new knowledge. never know that
what about the shotgun with ap20 lol the double barrel was broke and still is
Its not fucked 7.62×54R is more then likely gonna go through level 4 plates irl
He's using REALLY expensive T6 Ammo. against a T4 Armor... It's not broken. This is just whining.
It’s t5 bullet designed for lvl 5 or worse armour .
I see the CoD firearms experts have entered the comment section...
Because the bullet is t6 or t7? Thats why is easily kill/pen armor t4?
I just want to say to people getting mad or hell even landmark like you are dealing with what we have dealt with for yearsss of playing these games. You still easily have a 55-60% success rate. For us normal players I’m sorry the 80% rate your used too. I think a 50+ rate is what balance looks like in these just making cash. And I think people forget this is a beta that’s been out for three weeks and look how far it’s come
brother i have found the broken meta
sj16 with best ammo doesx 84 damage thru lvl 6 armor and 1 shots anything. mosin wont one tap above 4. sj16 is 84 damage with pen thru the best armor and one taps any helmet
And yeah it should 100% one tap level 6 to the head EVERY SINGLE TIME
Bro I've been playing ab mobile for 4 season + cbt and only now i learned that theres a system that increase damage
Theirs a reason shit is more expensive smh it’s common sense
I didn’t feel like scrolling as the answer may already be in the comments, but how are you playing this, is it an extended play test? and when is this coming out to us common folk?
Its a beta test of the pc version, it should be available for everyone also it can be downloaded via steam.
If it isnt available, then maybe the beta test already ended.
@rudranarayan3976 no, interested in the Pc version.
its in closed beta at the moment. You can get a key when they do twitch drops. Game is still going. They will release open beta some time within the couple few months, if not sooner, then everyone can play without a key for free.
You bled out instantly tony.....think about it bro
I love using t7 on mosin just to get the job done
Mosin? You mean motherland stick?
They say Putin's personal bodyguard still carry it.
Dude hit one bullet on my lv 5 helmet and I was gone 😪
I comment this same thing on the other video thibking it was this one
I built this same gun on molbile and tested it out. And it wouldnt even 1 tap a chest shot on tier2 armor. I dont remeber for sure but even on tier1 it wouldnt work.
So they ethier fix both since this vidro. Or they messed up on infinate. And it shouldnt 1 tap on chest and about the head maybe idk with tier 6
I’m not sure I see the point here. Yes, ok, it can one tap tier 4 armor but it’s basically high risk high reward. It’s one bullet.
Nikita crying about this game just makes it better lmao.
The balancing from PC to mobile is a bit different I'll say
Yeah they might need to change snipers in pc, in mobile they like that and still no one uses them cz...mobile, but in pc it's pretty ez to 360 no scope someone with a fkin ax-50
Crazy Mosin action
Tony ya neck is connected to your chest bro 😂
i wonder if the shot ricochet into your abdomen
You put this as a video to test the Mosin. U saw one person this was boring landmark..
U got hit on the neck, the stats shows.
The game's hitbox is just like old tarkov, hitting neck damage thorax
U got shot in the neck what's the question lol😂
I love how pc people think mobile people cant aim😂
They cant, is called Ai'm assist
@@InjokeRx i get the joke but i got say aim in mobile is really easy i can quick scope people 20 meter away with 90% hit and 100meter away with 90% if it have long range scope 🫠
@@THON176 This is like someone saying they know how to play soccer and then showing a video of 12 year olds making a goal. Sure you can hit shots its not even close to what good Pc players can do. It's not just accuracy % its also reaction and how fast you can get the shots off. you simply can't 180 on mobile like you can on pc its a hardware limitation not "haha mobile gamers bad".
@@Dem0n123-w4m bro there alot of good gamer almost 80% of the game im one of them too yes when you play alot you have skill and reaction time faster than pc player
@@THON176scope lags on low end phones, so some people unable to use it becouse of that
SNB is t6 graded
Good on Tony for calling out a major issue with the game. You cannot have cheap bolt actions with ammo that is only ~3K a round 1 tapping nearly anyone with a 300K+ kit on. There will only be rat mosin squads camping around. NEED to restrict SNB/AP ammo.
Mosin isn’t the only gun that can do that lmao, a sniper SHOULD 1 shot lmao
I used lps and hit a dude 4x in the chest/stomach and he didn’t die..
I usually agree with your takes, but youre talking about the best (and most expensive) ammo vs tier 4 armor. Youre also assuming people are going to hit their first shot, which if youre using a mosin you better hit your first shot cuz you might not get a chance to shoot another.
It's a knee-jerk reaction. It's typical from streamers who believe that they are invincible in their mid-tier kits. It happens in other games too. "I died?! This is unfair and unbalanced!"
nah getting one tapped without even seeing ur opponent who could be anywhere from within 100 meters just feels bad, its not fun gameplay, if ur playing arma or something sure keep ur realism but for an arcady extraction shooter lets make it as fun as possible
“Its so broken” dudes have never shot a mosin or seen a 7.62x54R round. You’re dropping if you get hit in the chest with it
I don’t understand why this is “broken”. What’s so special about level 4 armor? Just run level 5-6. You don’t run level 1-3 so don’t use level 4. The price of a lvl 4 vs lvl 5 armor is not too much.
Before shooty run with AP now Mosin run hehe 🤣
Holy shit lvndmark is crying. Its not broken that a bolt action rifle one shots lvl4 armor. If a bolt action doesnt one shot with its best ammo, its gonna be useless. Cant believe lvndmark is crying like a fucking baby.
Lol..bruhh..you got shot on the neck not the chest lol...your trollin lol
It counts as a thorax lmao
you gotta be some kind of stupid if you didnt understand the first few mins of the vid
tony abuses 338 then says you cant have a mosin what a pos
Mosin a whole lobby after this 😅