BRUTALLY HONEST | Graz - Amsterdam - Shanghai in ECONOMY on KLM Asia's decade-old Boeing 777-200ER!

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  • @keisuke5468
    @keisuke5468 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +647

    They kept the KLM Asia so that they can bait Simply Aviation to make a brutally honest video on it 😃🎉

    • @hac129
      @hac129 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      A diss video LOL 😂

    • @UsmanBello
      @UsmanBello 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He got triggered over this. The same way I got triggered over how he pronounced the city he originated from "Graz" as it sounds more like "Gerät" or something like that. And I have noticed he likes to pronounce "Danke schön" like "Doinkeh-shen". 🤣

  • @keisuke5468
    @keisuke5468 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +644

    The employees probably don’t know themselves why KLM Asia exists and just googled it after you emailed them 😂

    • @flaneurnz
      @flaneurnz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Haha😅

    • @EpicThe112
      @EpicThe112 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂😂😂😂 the final destination of KL807/808 the main KLM Asia route route is MNL T1 which makes the crew being Dutch/Flemish Taiwanese and Filipino. Do KL808 back to AMS there's some going to JFK KL643 KL619/618 BOS for PVD. Although KE has the shorter layover via ICN from MNL for BOS

  • @espaciobarra
    @espaciobarra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +206

    I can confirm by a fact that Latin Americans really, really like KLM (and Air France also) because it allows them to connect to the rest of the world without a hassle, mainly because transiting via AMS DOES NOT require a visa compared to doing so via the US (which only Chileans can go without lengthy formalities due to visa waivers). KL/AF networks are vast enough to allow them to go pretty much everywhere, and at reasonable prices as well!
    (Side note: the SCL-EZE fifth freedom flight is also heavily used because KLM offers fantastic full-service fares that are often cheaper than low cost airlines like JetSmart and SKY, and those are as basic as you can get...)
    Great video, David!

    • @Nadia1989
      @Nadia1989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yup. Transit at AMS is rough, but is less complicated than LHR, CDG or FRA. I wish they could add travelators between the two terminals.

    • @odzergaming
      @odzergaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      you dont need a visa transiting anywhere other than US and Canada

    • @goytabr
      @goytabr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@odzergaming, that is indeed true for most Latin American nationalities at all *MAJOR* connection hubs outside the US and Canada that I can think of, but sometimes a few routes may lead them to some more unusual connecting airports that may require visas. For example, Aeromexico sometimes offers fares attractive enough to tempt passengers from Latin America to Europe to make a long detour through Mexico City, and Mexico now requires a visa for Brazilians and a few other Latin American nationalities (waived if the person has a valid visa for the US or Canada).

    • @Johan91NL
      @Johan91NL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Nadia1989 For an airport its size Schiphols transfers are so easy. As you said compare it to same sized airports like LHR or FRA lol

    • @espaciobarra
      @espaciobarra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Chileans have no issues taking advantage of US/CA hubs thanks to ESTA and eTA waivers. I've used LAX and SFO a few times already because of said lack of formalities.
      The rest of LATAM has it more complicated though. As insane as it sounds, people from there do fly to New Zealand if they need to reach Asia. Same thing goes for DXB or DOH: no formalities.
      The tradition has always been going via AMS, CDG or FRA though.

  • @gert1nl
    @gert1nl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    I really feel the opposite from you about Schiphol. I love that it is all one terminal, that you don't have to transfer with a bus or train to go to different ones. It is also very easy to navigate, impossible to get lost.
    A walk is very welcome in between 2 flights.
    Schiphol had huge issues with security / passport lines right after covid, but those times are luckily long gone.

    • @SEN77788
      @SEN77788 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Полностью согласен, это тоже мой самый любимый аэропорт для пересадки и транзита в Европе, это очень удобный аэропорт

    • @dschach1996
      @dschach1996 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same here, connecting via AMS is really easy.

  • @ricardokim95
    @ricardokim95 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    KLM crews have always been very kind and friendly in my flights with them. I've had better experiences with some other airlines, but overall I feel like KLM is one of the most consistent in terms of service quality.

  • @Archduke17
    @Archduke17 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +310

    Graz is Arnold Schwarzenegger's hometown. When departing, remember to tell airport staff "I'll be back."

    • @yaronsteinbuch3956
      @yaronsteinbuch3956 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      😂

    • @andysorensen1737
      @andysorensen1737 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Alternatively, if you’re cutting it close: “RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPA!”

    • @magentilized
      @magentilized 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Grazer here!

    • @agreedlooki8081
      @agreedlooki8081 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it´s not direct graz, it´s thal, a little town near graz

  • @senabecool7232
    @senabecool7232 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    KLM Asia seems more like a livery than an actual branding, since the plane at timestamp 9:26 also recently flew to non Asia routes like Guayaquil and Quito

    • @EpicThe112
      @EpicThe112 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are correct also the Eastern United States Amsterdam to JFK and Boston Logan. For the KLM Asia flight to Taipei it's actually going to Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport

  • @Iamwatchingyou75
    @Iamwatchingyou75 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    I'm surprised you dislike layovers in AMS. To me, the single terminal concept makes transferring a whole lot more convienient, compared to let's say CDG or FRA.

    • @upaviation787
      @upaviation787 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im at cdg rn lol bout to board a aa 787 to dfw

    • @Jamie-Fox
      @Jamie-Fox 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I disagree FRA is far more easy and quicker than AMS.

    • @Jamie-Fox
      @Jamie-Fox 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulm.westerduin64 well, I do not know why you have such problems. I did not have all those you said.

    • @joshuadala3508
      @joshuadala3508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What about istanbul

    • @joshuadala3508
      @joshuadala3508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulm.westerduin64 oh

  • @JzrCrz
    @JzrCrz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    Yeah, you can see both regular KLM and Asia flying both China and Taiwan today. The only possible answer I can think of is that KLM wants to keep the brand to stay on good terms with China. Currently, KLM is actually the only European airline flying to Taiwan. Maybe that plays a role in them keeping the brand to not upset China. Even though China isn't making a big of a deal about it anymore.
    Funny enough, you mentioned the fleet of KLM Asia here 12:23 consisting of 9 B777. It's actually 8 now. One of the Boeing 777-300ER (PH-BVC) has been repainted to the regular KLM livery a few months ago. Maybe they're finally starting to drop the brand.

    • @Johan91NL
      @Johan91NL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think that was a reason for it indeed. To keep the KLM and KLM Asia fleet seperated with the China and Taiwan conflict. With this ''new'' company they can still fly to Taiwan and China.

    • @kaffir76
      @kaffir76 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Excellent reply. 100% on point 🙏🙏

    • @_yying_
      @_yying_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Turkish Airlines fly to TPE as well (although that’s an Asian/European mix?

    • @vincentvanhuijstee9764
      @vincentvanhuijstee9764 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Flying to both China and Taiwan as the only European airline is exactly the reason why KLM Asia exists.

    • @TurboJuicee
      @TurboJuicee 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So it was PH BVC that had KLM ASIA before? I knew it, I was wondering why it had regular livery

  • @kingsharkoon
    @kingsharkoon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    The only thing I can really get behind regarding the livery is that it protects the "KLM Asia" brand just in case they ever need it again or want to use it for some reason. :)

    • @soonlytaing1708
      @soonlytaing1708 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I mean with the rising tension between China and Taiwan these days, this might be a smart move

    • @LeviRamsey
      @LeviRamsey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Related: the Dutch are too cheap (or, if you prefer, too starved for resources by Paris...) to spend the money to retire KLM Asia.

    • @ljacobs357
      @ljacobs357 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what I think. They are just protecting themselves from possible geopolitical problems between China and Taiwan.

    • @technl75
      @technl75 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I would guess that KLM is simply choosing to be prepared for China and Taiwan once again reverting to the tense situation that existed before. It’s a contingency plan. That it hasn’t happened in 20 years is no proof of a failing plan. It’s not like China and Taiwan have resolved their issues, or likely will anytime soon.

    • @19960959
      @19960959 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@technl75As a Taiwanese, I don’t think the issue between Taiwan and China will never be solved in my lifetime.😢

  • @kawangkwok5262
    @kawangkwok5262 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    As a Chinese, David really research on the Chinese culture on numbers, and traditional Chinese characters, I don't expect that!

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      86 is a lucky number in China too I heard, with '8' (八) sounding like the word for 'prosperity' (发/發) & '6' (六) sounding like the word for 'flow' (流) in Mandarin. It's also the country code for mainland China/the PRC. Maybe not a co-incidence. SIA also has its flight numbers for routes serving greater China starting with '8' e.g. SQ872 & 890 for SIN-HKG

    • @florianpelin
      @florianpelin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      86 is the Chinese phone code as well, no? +86

    • @Curzon1999vie
      @Curzon1999vie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think he speaks Mandarin pretty perfectly. Heard him pronounce some Chinese radish or something. He never told us when and why he learned it (so perfectly). Would be really interesting.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@florianpelin Yup

    • @hockey1freak
      @hockey1freak 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hes not American he isn't indoctrinated to hate China. Good on him to show the respect.

  • @Illustriousdarnellofficial
    @Illustriousdarnellofficial 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    15:06 The nightmare of all passengers... That crying baby.

    • @woutergijs5246
      @woutergijs5246 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Correction: I heard 2 and maybe a bit later N°3 joined in😅😅😅

    • @JUVI9596
      @JUVI9596 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You cried when you were a baby

    • @woutergijs5246
      @woutergijs5246 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@JUVI9596as far as I remember, I did never cry .

    • @Namisincere
      @Namisincere 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It’s crazy how something so commonplace can still be annoying every time somehow

    • @JUVI9596
      @JUVI9596 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@woutergijs5246 if you say so

  • @sinaasappelflap
    @sinaasappelflap 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +152

    I recently asked klm why there still is an Asia devision. They told me that the crown in the logo is the issue for some countries.
    It was for countries like Thailand where they are not allowed to show the crown. But these aircraft fly all over the world, also to NA for example.

    • @whyteaz1165
      @whyteaz1165 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lol definitely not a problem for sino, they prob just want to keep it as a tradition

    • @theon9575
      @theon9575 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂 haha... likely story! It sounds good, but it doesn't figure. I wonder which countries they meant? I guess one of them could have been China but the others???
      The crown in the KLM logo is simply a reflection of the airline's name KLM, the acronym for "Koninklijk Luchtvaart Maatschappij" (or "Royal Airtravel Company" in English). Those un-named countries object to the logo but not to the "Royal" in KLM's name? Unlikely. It is similar to the English tradition of the King or Queen granting companies by Appointment the right to use "Royal" in their name. In the UK there are many, even jars of marmalade have Royal and a Crown logo. The Royal connection occurs in other airlines, such as Morocco's and Jordan's national airlines. Even in Asia, Royal Brunei Airlines and Royal Nepal etc are not bothered by these un-named countries.
      Why is KLM and the Dutch Crown singled out? British Airways which carries the Royal Mail, shamelessly shows the British Crown in the logo of the Royal Mail on the fuselage of their aeroplanes but that's not a problem. Why? 😂😱
      So I think those people at KLM were fobbing you off with a slick but unlikely & inconsistent explanation 🧐. Why would these un-named countries they told you about object only to the Dutch Crown?

    • @sinaasappelflap
      @sinaasappelflap 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@whyteaz1165it was for countries like Thailand that don’t allow the display of crowns other then their royal stuff

    • @npligs24
      @npligs24 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Not a problem in China. Crowns and symbols resembling monarchy are okay, so long as China diplomatically recognize the corresponding country, i.e. Dutch, UK, Thailand, or even post-WW Japanese monarchs. But not from states that China doesn't recognize, namely Vatican city.

    • @theon9575
      @theon9575 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@sinaasappelflapso Thailand banned Royal Brunei Airlines, and Royal Nepal Air flying in from neighbouring Nepal, and also British Airways aircraft which flagrantly display the British Crown in the Royal Mail logo on their fuselages?? I think not.
      And which other countries "like Thailand" do you mean?

  • @alex-aviation9890
    @alex-aviation9890 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    can we talk about how beautiful the KLM livery looks ok the 777 ?

    • @robloxlovera6362
      @robloxlovera6362 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think cuz of the Delft blue color

    • @toyotauris
      @toyotauris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My favourite KLM livery is the 787-10

    • @toyotauris
      @toyotauris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Although 777 looks beautiful too

    • @theon9575
      @theon9575 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the Boeing 747 'Queen of the Skies' looked splendid with this livery.
      The blue (often called "KLM Blue" here) is unique, and is as Dutch as clogs & tulips!
      Someone here commented that it reminds of blue in traditional Delft Blauw pottery. I think so too. But I live in Amsterdam, and here KLM blue is the sky colour and the gentle sunlight quality are unique in NL, even commented on by artists like Rembrandt and Vermeer. When I'm overseas and missing 'home', that blue on the KLM plane at the airport touches my heart again .."Ah! Thuis! ❤️ I'm going 'home".

    • @sub2julianthekang
      @sub2julianthekang 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any blue 777 looks good. Say the Korean air 777. It looked very nice. I just flew on one

  • @planeoldsimp272
    @planeoldsimp272 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I think they still keep it, simply for fun and also incase something like what happened in the 1990's happens again they will be fine

  • @Mimi_L.
    @Mimi_L. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    The 'generous' legroom is to accommodate the tall Dutchies!

    • @M_Aviation1
      @M_Aviation1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i didn't know Dutch people are generally tall

    • @goytabr
      @goytabr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm a short man at 1.67 m or 5'6". I've never been in the Netherlands or flown on KLM, and I guess I would be considered even shorter there. But I did fly on the MD-11 in another airline and route, and as you know, KLM was the last airline to fly that type of plane in passenger service. At the time of my flight, KLM actually had a large fleet of them, and as an aviation buff, I knew that fact. And while I mostly enjoyed the MD-11 experience, I couldn't reach the luggage racks, they were too high for me (the MD-11 was the only aircraft type where this happened). I thought that there must have been some Dutch designers at McDonnell-Douglas, and that the plane being designed for tall people was probably one of the reasons why KLM liked it so much... 😂

    • @Mimi_L.
      @Mimi_L. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@goytabr the average height in the Netherlands are 183 cms (6'0) for men and 170 cms (5'7) for women.

    • @Nicky_TM
      @Nicky_TM 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@M_Aviation1 I’m 180cm (5’10?) as a girl and not considered that tall here 💀

    • @M_Aviation1
      @M_Aviation1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Nicky_TM are you dutch?

  • @EthanPricco
    @EthanPricco 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I live near MSP and every now and then a KLM 777 with the KLM Asia livery shows up here. Always fun to see but I remember being so confused about it when I saw it for the first time.

  • @tita6818
    @tita6818 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    10:29 It seems that KLM Asia painted aircrafts were mixed with others KLM aircrafts in 2000s. I took a KLM flight AMS-GRU with B747 combi in KLM Asia paint. Also, KLM Asia B747s were sighted in Japan.

  • @Ouchie
    @Ouchie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    According to the Dutch Chamber of Commerce (KVK), there is no KLM Asia (anymore?). There is only KLM (Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. KVK 33014286) , KLM Cargo (KVK 33014286) and KLM Cityhopper B.V. (KVK 34035358)

    • @thofstee
      @thofstee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If it's still there it's probably registered in a different country. You won't find that information at the KvK.

    • @Ouchie
      @Ouchie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@thofstee I would expect it to be registered in the Netherlands or France, but neither has any results. Doesn't seem logical to me that it is registered in a completely different country, but am no expert in that

    • @LeviRamsey
      @LeviRamsey 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Ouchie KLM Asia had at least in the past been incorporated in Taiwan.

    • @Ouchie
      @Ouchie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@LeviRamsey It is also not listed in their Subsidiaries list in their anual report 2023 (KLM-Annual-Report_2023.pdf page 230). So I think it doesn't exist anymore and just kept the name on their aircraft livery

    • @A.mortaz_
      @A.mortaz_ 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Its registerd in honkong

  • @n.q163
    @n.q163 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have an idea about a tripreport. I am very curious about the Corendon a350 with the adult only section. Is it worth it on a 9 hour flight from Amsterdam to Curaçao? Or is it just a gimmick.

    • @htimsid
      @htimsid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is it like OnlyFans?

  • @tyw123
    @tyw123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I actually saw a KLM 777-200ER taking off from my home town of Minneapolis about a week ago now. Watching this video and seeing that plane's registration, I believe Simply Aviation flew on the same aircraft I saw.

  • @Planelover3000
    @Planelover3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    the way he pronounced the south amercain citys was just amazing shows how much respect david shows for other places

    • @Planelover3000
      @Planelover3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      OMG HE HEARTED MY COMMENT NICE

  • @Rens787
    @Rens787 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You said it well the Koninklijke luchtvaart maatschappij, pretty good 🇳🇱

    • @florianpelin
      @florianpelin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which is still hard for me to pronounce, even if my Dutch is decent

  • @mainquehomewood
    @mainquehomewood 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Going from Amsterdam via Taiwan to Manila in January with KLM on their Boing 777-200. 16 hours in economy class. Looking forward to that. Thanks for the video 👌

  • @ZambiblasianOgre
    @ZambiblasianOgre 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just a small clarification for the title: PH-BQK was delivered to KLM in 2005. So it is nearing two decades old now!

  • @fritskleinenhammans2388
    @fritskleinenhammans2388 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Assigned to economy comfort seats for free if requested at checkin counter? Thanks for the advice! Actually these seats also recline, the old ones all did and economy, and in comfort even further

  • @tonymartin9938
    @tonymartin9938 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It is a Dutch airline. The Dutch love apples and apple products. I grew up with apple juice and apple pastries and products like apple crumble for dessert. Still love all of these. This helps make it Dutch to me. Just wish one got the little delft bottles in economy though.

  • @nonrevmax
    @nonrevmax 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Considering how spot on you were on the pronunciations @ 20:52 I'm fairly confident you can pronounce Edmonton right. Not once but twice if you wanna get nit picky. Not Edmont

  • @MelvisVelour
    @MelvisVelour 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In many years of flying, I have never seen anyone use the coat hook. I was once tempted to hang a small bag from it but realized it would have been more of an annoyance to the person next to me.

  • @raphaelsalvador4413
    @raphaelsalvador4413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    8:40 you forgot Singapore, while it is multi-ethnic, it is majority Chinese-speaking. KLM's flight numbers there are KL835 and KL836

  • @jarrettalyssaneville1122
    @jarrettalyssaneville1122 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All KLM flight numbers to the Far East Asia starts with 8 (809 to KUL- Jakarta), Africa with 5, North America 6, Latin America 7, Middle East 4.

  • @marco8061
    @marco8061 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Respect to your research on KLM Asia and the figures😃

  • @dodaz2049
    @dodaz2049 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    New ≠ state-of-the-art
    Actually in economy class, old is usually MUCH better!!!

    • @Nadia1989
      @Nadia1989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's why BoA flights to Miami are popular. Old planes with comfy economy seats, and generous baggage allowance. 👍

    • @odzergaming
      @odzergaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Old isnt better, the ife barely works

    • @rezaalan3991
      @rezaalan3991 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely agree in terms of seat material.

  • @ZahraJAnna
    @ZahraJAnna 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just to add.
    - There is a service for disabled ppl. You have to reqeust and they wil take you with a smal kart from one terminal to another one (saw that last year)
    - Al the bleu and white colors are in resembalance of Delfts Blauw, a historic pottery.
    I love flying with KLM and you video gave that feeling that i always have when i get on one of there planes. Home and adventure :)

  • @clintw567
    @clintw567 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You‘ve pointed it right. KLM used to be such a great airline. Since AF-KLM seems to be the french have the upper hand in that regard. Back in the 2000‘s I remember as a kid I could have taken the kids meal out after arrival. And that impression is still kept. AF-KLM should balance the offers as You mentioned. „Egalite“. KLM will always be in my heart as a former little flying dutch man.

  • @Thijs-g4l
    @Thijs-g4l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Interesting video. I am an extremely frequent flier on both AF and KL long haul in Y and although I admit immediately that AF J is a league above KL, KL’s Y product is a league above AF. Yes AF serves a cheap champagne but how does it taste? I believe the wine in KL is of better quality, as is their whole catering. Cute little bag from AF but the content is of low quality, stale bread and processed foods.
    Also, in general, the service is more personal on KL than AF in Y, plus I believe also that KL is more Dutch than AF is French. There are so many references to The Netherlands, for example the safety video that you refer to from AF but not KL.
    I agree that serving 2 apple items is unfortunate but the product itself is totally different.
    What airline serves hot towels in Y? It does cost a lot as you need crew to warm them up and serve which takes at least double, if not triple the time. And then they have to pick them up again. Not dfeasable in Y.
    Good job with “Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij”😊😜 But the direct translating is actually “Royal Aviation Company”

    • @seanatd3224
      @seanatd3224 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SQ serves hot towels in Y

  • @AlMarche90
    @AlMarche90 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After seeing this video I’m confused. What was a KLM Asia airplane doing in Mexico City? Recently I saw a plane spotting video from MEX and there was one…

  • @sgbuses
    @sgbuses 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are these KLM Asia planes leased? If so, it might something to do with their leasing agreement.

  • @delta049
    @delta049 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I work at AMS and I get what you're saying that it can be a long walk to your new gate. Although I saw you were pretty unlucky with your departure gate, being at the end of the E pier. It can indeed get insanely crowded in the waiting lounges.

  • @HD-Gaming
    @HD-Gaming 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was at the Amsterdam Airport for Planespotting and actually saw the other KLM Asia plane that you showed, which was scheduled to fly to Somewhere in the US.

  • @therealskazzy4721
    @therealskazzy4721 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I flew in KLM ASIA from Lima to Amsterdam a few years ago. Amazing flight.

  • @A380mhr
    @A380mhr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The klm asia is i think only an livery. These planes are also send to usa and latin america and africa. I have flown to taipei in a klm regular plane

  • @irisroeleven
    @irisroeleven 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:51 😂
    I’ve read somewhere on the internet that it’s just these liveries that are still in service, but I don’t remember where I read it and I also don’t know why these liveries are still around 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @leszekprzystasz9834
    @leszekprzystasz9834 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the transfer in Frankfurt? Because the distance to be covered is certainly greater there, as I recently found out when trying to catch the return flight Cancun-Frankfurt-Poznan

  • @bowlofrice7242
    @bowlofrice7242 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure about the Shanghai, Beijing and Taipei route. But the flight from AMS to HKG should be KL 887, while HKG to AMS is KL 888

  • @wietsebloemsma765
    @wietsebloemsma765 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Heyy, KLM is slowly changing the liveries at the moment, the PH-BVC has recently been painted in the normal livery.

  • @erik_griswold
    @erik_griswold 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I once flew a Continental Micronesia DC-10 from SFO to EWR. Maybe you could do a video on why the was a KLMuk.

  • @ansgol
    @ansgol 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you like small Liège airports (LGG) is a good option. These are charter flights for Tui Belgium, with two flights a day during the summer season. No duty free or shop ;)

  • @tnobe3
    @tnobe3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that Milky Chance at 7:28 on the right hand side?

  • @brianking768
    @brianking768 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Loved the use of “y’all” at 17:06.

    • @juanone66
      @juanone66 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      David obviously linguistically talented. This video also featured Castillilan Spanish, Dutch (or Nederlandisch for purists) and his usual flawless English.

  • @Birry2000
    @Birry2000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you make a video about Garuda Indonesia economy class?

  • @joppe217
    @joppe217 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    14:39 Are those also compatible with an EU plug?

  • @majgijoe
    @majgijoe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm impressed you used the conjunction of y'all when talking about the beer. There are few locations where that is very prevalent.

  • @autenticobauer
    @autenticobauer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are that Overwingbridges at Schiphol still in use??

    • @simply_aviation
      @simply_aviation  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I checked that when writing the script for this video, and unfortunately the final two are being dismantled this spring...

  • @bobbybonboni
    @bobbybonboni 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much for explaining the reasons for using (and not using) certain numbers in flights to China! I appreciate the shared knowledge. I wonder if keeping the Asia livery has something to do with the history of kingdoms in Asia that could have triggered the removal of the crown?

  • @robg5317
    @robg5317 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys need to go to Belize and take a trip or two on the awesomeness that is Tropic Air

  • @Blank00
    @Blank00 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could the Asia brand disappear when the A350s replace 777-200s? One of the -300ERs is now a regular KLM plane

  • @Win2User
    @Win2User 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do Malaysia Airlines' new product offerings on the 737 MAX and A330neo soon? Great video as always! :D

  • @ishanpai1791
    @ishanpai1791 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hehe, I flew exact same aircraft in December 2022 and it was a KLM Asia Plane (Reg PH-BQH) operating from AMS-BOM. They fly sometimes these aircraft to Asia and they look almost the same as a regular KLM Aircraft. Regardless, ther service is always great & crew is always friendly.

  • @ablietski
    @ablietski 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 772's are the last planes that have been scheduled for the cabin refresh (incl. the addition of Premium Economy). They expect to finish within the coming months. It also seems you had one of the last non-refurbished aircraft.

  • @TripleS24Squad
    @TripleS24Squad 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The KLM Asia aircraft with nosename "Nahanni National Park" (registered PH-BQN) is still lingering in my mind tho. I glad had a chance to photographed him in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia back in 2018

  • @sa8569
    @sa8569 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review as always! I recently flew KLM for the first time back in April from Kuala Lumpur to Amsterdam and I was very impressed. That flight was also my very first flight on a 787 Dreamliner :) I would certainly fly with them again in the future. On that same trip in April I also flew with Air France for the first time and was just as impressed with their long haul Economy product. Air France's newest A350's have dimmable windows which was a surprise :) Looking forward to your upcoming reviews :)

  • @julioc4978
    @julioc4978 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as always,
    I am not a fan of transiting through AMS but is beats CDG by a mile.
    AF is good, but connecting through CDG is a nightmare
    What's your favorite airport to transit?
    cheers

  • @kashimokid
    @kashimokid 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can they hire staff for KLM Asia only flights? Is KLM Asia just a brand or legal entity? If so, they can maybe hire at a different rate for non-euro staff? Could keeping the brand be just about brand protection? It’s like In’n’out doing pop ups once a year in Japan just to maintain legal naming.

  • @joeyhouben3270
    @joeyhouben3270 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    problems either reduced mobility??
    there is a free service for that..
    from gate to gate or from check in to gate.
    also there are many Walkalators in the terminals.
    so problems.. only if you want to see trouble 😀🤭

  • @PownerMusicOfficial
    @PownerMusicOfficial 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always love walking through schiphol. Finding your gate there is a really fun adventure if you're not in a rush.

  • @sb6181
    @sb6181 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would reach out to the European Commission (Transport department) about KLM Asia as it appears this is a non-EU registered entity but KLM is not necessarily being transparent about what it means to its customers. For example. we often see “operated by X airline” on codeshare flights for transparency reasons so maybe KLM needs to be more transparent if KLM Asia is a subsidiary. I know the onboard service is the same but the point is about transparency under EU law. By taking a KLM Asia flight, am I flying a China registered airline?

  • @gulfice3766
    @gulfice3766 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's for tax reasons. The KLM Asia subsidiary can still use Dutch registered plane but revenue from business ops are under the Asia subsidiary;s corporate financial statement. And Netherlands won't charge you twice if you already paid a lower tax rate in another country for a foreign registered company.

  • @Normalaatsra
    @Normalaatsra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't the continuation of KLM Asia tied to airspace rights to overfly across China? Serving a destination within and outside. Cathay Pacific had this problem and relied on Dragonair/Cathay Dragon to provide mainland feed to HKG. Now is not the case anymore but it was discontinued not so long ago. Perhaps a quota of their fleet appearing must be Asia branded to satisfy one of the parties?

  • @yilunjin8705
    @yilunjin8705 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi David, nice work!
    Glad that you go to my hometown of Shanghai, and your extensive research of KLM Asia (especially when the previous article by simple flying is wrong :)). Besides, I am pretty impressed by your understanding about Chinese culture such as the number 8 in the flight numbers (which I don't know previously), and your knowledge about the 88 resembling 囍, which I don't know either.
    Thank you for your nice work and efforts, and wish you had a good time in Shanghai (mega-city in your words)! By the way, I echo your thoughts on non-alcoholic heineken!

  • @dannycnoble
    @dannycnoble 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i was just in Schipol in february connecting Delta to Cityhopper and i found it pretty painless. then again we where in at 6am. so that could be the reason why.
    Also we flew on CityHopper to LCY and 1 agree with you 100% about the legroom. i am 6ft 6 (182 cm and the main reason i like your videos as we are almost the same height).

  • @hoangminhx007
    @hoangminhx007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope David can discover VietJet Air too. I hope to see David's opinion about this low cost carrier compare to some other low cost carriers

  • @gunvaldsandhaland7757
    @gunvaldsandhaland7757 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I Love When Air Craft Have Personal Air Nozzles,I Love Schiphol Its So Easy To Navigate.Great Video And Info

  • @PratithShenai
    @PratithShenai 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it possible that when KLM decided on the new livery, they just repainted the airplanes where there was actual change in livery (i.e. the lower half of the airplanes) and did not touch those parts of the airplane where there wasn't any change in livery (i.e. the upper half)? To me this seems to be the only reason why KLM Asia brand is retained.

  • @wn7915
    @wn7915 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May I ask, is there always a Chinese speaking gate agent at Amsterdam Schiphol gates for flights to China?

  • @auntbarb5464
    @auntbarb5464 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    00:48 where was your stop over? Ed Mon Ton ? Oh dear lol

  • @Jet.Set.Go.
    @Jet.Set.Go. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Graz to Amsterdam route is not being continued, right?

    • @erik_griswold
      @erik_griswold 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably moving to their new CPH and ARN hubs.

  • @Mav3rickkk
    @Mav3rickkk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    KL807/808 Flight from AMS to MNL via TPE is not operated by Boeing triple sevens anymore. They switch to Boeing 787-9.

  • @PotatoGod6969
    @PotatoGod6969 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    these videos are just so good to watch when you have hours of nothing to do keep it up

  • @DeviousFink
    @DeviousFink 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm just gonna play 20:55 over and over again in my dreams 😍

  • @Aviator_UK
    @Aviator_UK 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I took this flight between AMS and Shanghai and I loved every minute of it

  • @jbsarmiento9703
    @jbsarmiento9703 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aside from KLM, other carriers used the "Asia" titles: Air France, British Airways, Swiss Air and Japan Airlines has done it back in the days.

  • @KLMmer747
    @KLMmer747 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They did repaint the KLM ASIA B773 PH-BVC into normal KLM scheme. So maybe the ASIA branding is coming to a stop? (I hope so...)

  • @gudfaderncc
    @gudfaderncc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    David & co, those kind of videos are SO EXCELLENT!!! ❤️

  • @techbox8400
    @techbox8400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which airport do you dislike transiting from more -- CDG or AMS?

  • @carlk3989
    @carlk3989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I see you met with our Dutch way of working style. The rule is simple: work as less as possible, use anything that makes your work easier. It isn’t important if that makes your work low quality, wrong or etc. As long as it isn’t terrible, defend your work to death 😂😂😂 I think KLM Asia exists because it makes KLM looks a bit more global. Like “big in Asia” so to say. This is only a speculation of course. Another Dutch thing to know: do not seek too much of meaning behind things 😂

  • @Nadia1989
    @Nadia1989 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two years ago I had to transit at Schiphol with a sprained ankle. Never again.
    10:12 the shade!

  • @Planelover3000
    @Planelover3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have seen some KLM asia planes at my hometown airport YYZ but departed to amsterdam why????

  • @IAmNivash
    @IAmNivash 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I feel the reason why they keep the KLM ASIA Branding is in the event China or Taiwan does not allow any foreign airlines to fly in, KLM ASIA can operate like it is as its made for the China and Taiwan market anyways.

    • @juanone66
      @juanone66 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      For countries that rely so heavily on foreign trade, I doubt that will ever happen.

    • @Candy-wm4nc
      @Candy-wm4nc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ve seen foreign airlines fly in china and Taiwan

    • @iflycessnas4707
      @iflycessnas4707 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Candy-wm4nc read the OP comment again

  • @Aeneas75
    @Aeneas75 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aside past geopolitical issues, Maybe KLM Asia crews have different salaries? You know many airlines create subsidiaries to lower costs. Otherwise I don’t see the point.

  • @lucas1984
    @lucas1984 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Little mistake: Koninklijke Luchtvaartmaatschappij doesn't translate to Royal Dutch Airlines but simply to Royal Airlines.

  • @thecatfromsingapore
    @thecatfromsingapore 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love the fun facts about 8!

  • @Reddy315
    @Reddy315 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No transit visa is required for passengers transiting through the following Schengen countries provided that they are the one and only stop in the Schengen area: Netherlands, France, Switzerland....Paris, Amsterdam, Geneva, Zurich airports

  • @ViciousVince
    @ViciousVince 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wasn't aware of the separate entities. About 7 years ago on a flight from Amsterdam to Chicago, they substituted an Asia 747 for the original aircraft. I made a comment to a fellow traveler about hoping we were not served sushi. We weren't. Actually, it appears you were served standard KLM long-haul fare, which hasn't changed for years. (American Airlines has Asian options on trans-Pacific flights into China, but not into Tokyo. I guess the Japanese are seen as adaptable?)

  • @CesardelaCruzCurril-gf8ob
    @CesardelaCruzCurril-gf8ob 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I live in switzerland and for business reasons I fly two to three times a month with AF -KLM to Lima and Santiago de Chile since 2008. always business class. AF is a nightmare as far as service and luggage delays and KLM is very poor with their monotonous horrible food. However , I must admit that KLM is efficient with punctuality . I recommend LATAM and or Delta.

  • @maureenferrer6119
    @maureenferrer6119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FYI: KL807's final destination is actually MNL....KL doesnt have 5th freedom rights on this route

  • @dodaz2049
    @dodaz2049 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    klm is not the last to have an asia division and btw Alitalia used to also have one!

  • @AF-im9cc
    @AF-im9cc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it maybe possible for you guys to review KLM’s new premium comfort class? Also more premium economy videos?
    Thank you very much and kudos for the excellent content 🎉❤

  • @colinseeney471
    @colinseeney471 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn't transit through Schiphol either by choice. I once missed my connection from Manchester to Hong Kong. They rerouted me through KL and I was about 9 hours delayed and no luggage at arrival. It wasn't their fault, and the flights were fine.

  • @Zentai21
    @Zentai21 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also rode a KLM Asia 747-400 to Manila via Taipei, it was supposed to be a 777-200ER but due to the technical issues I was lucky that they chose the 747 as their substitute aircraft. Flight no. 807