tholliers needle's skill also has boosted damage on sleeping enemies, making it able to function like poison moth / poison flower, albeit with a shorter window to use it. Ledas armor boosts a ton of attack tykes by 10%, which helps her build as well.
A few things (this is said in joking manner) You missed out on: - Moore unlimited Hefty rot pot - Dane hyper armor and infinite stamina - Hornset one shot consumables
@@paracame8162 Right but I'm saying she should be using both. Unless she actually does also use red lightning incantations aside from the gavel, and I'm mistaken, it's very strange she only uses communion incantations.
really fun video, only two things to say hornsent also uses the horn bairne reusable item a lot, only it deals negligible damage when the player uses it and Moore's shield can actually deal a decent amout of damage if you 2 hand it, I'm pretty sure Moore doesn't use it himself but it's still possible
I believe Moore smacked me with his shield a few times during the Enir-Ilim gank, and the damage is indeed respectable. Don't think it's enough to put him above Igon in this vid, but still something to keep in mind
I love how the explanation for Ymir was “yeah it’s strong but it could be stronger” as you literally show footage of that one spell tearing through health bars💀
Fun Fact: the summoned version of Florrisax uses a special version of Dragon Claw that does lightning damage. It is an incantation that the player cannot access at all, ever. So that's fun 🙂
Just saying it here, you forgot the four Mausoleum fights, Dancer of Rannah, Blackgaoil knight, Red bear and Rakshasa, as well as the Lamenter and the greater Potentate. Edit: You also forgott the other Swordhand of knight, Anna. The one who invades right before Metyr who has the claws of night and shield of night.
ansbach’s incantation didn’t have any bleed. The bug is fixed and the incantation is kinda good now, though I’m not sure why you’d use a bleed incantation while already having a bleed weapon. I’m guessing this incantation works better on poison builds. (edit) It’s getting annoying but you can stop telling me about lore, I know that Ansbach is Mohg’s blood knight, he says it in the first goddamn seconds, it’s not a revelation. I’m saying it doesn’t make any gameplay sense, you already have a bleed melee weapon with good damage, why’d you want to use a spell that is melee bleed but less damage and costs fp? It’s cool, yeah but it’s like trying to ride a bike and a car at the same time, it’s not much better than riding a car also am I the only one weirded out by Dane using golden vow? I thought Miquella’s people oppose the golden order. Now here I need lore explanation, I am really confused and can’t find any answers to this
@@thatlittlemonstrosity yeah got it confused with the other one but him having this spell confirms that he is (or was) a golden order fundamentalist (miquella made this spell for his father and the fundamentalists) just my interpretation of this
The incantation is there for lore reasons, not for build purposes, it serves a narrative, just like the everything else. It says in a description that Ansbach only uses it when he's ambushed/caught off guard by the enemy, and doesn't have the time to draw his long scythe, or when someone knocks the scythe out of his hands during battle, and he's disarmed, he instead strikes them with his hand as a last ditch effort, turning his arm into a blood flame blade.
Love how Dane's build turns you into a human blender, but when he uses it when "assisting" you in Romina's fight, he makes it look weak as hell. Romina is already easy enough, and all Dane does for the fight is increase her hp when summoned, meaning the person who's supposed to help you in that fight ultimately just turns it into the challenge run version of the fight.
Thiollier’s build is lowkey a sleeper(no pun intended). If you put on the exultation talisman that boosts damage when poison is in vicinity. After inflicting sleep and then using the aow on his perfume weapon. You can get the buff while the enemy is sleep and then change back to the fist weapon. And you could probably use st trina smile too.
Poor Moore. I like the guy, and when he actually swings his shield, he can do a lotta damage. But otherwise, rot pots and a useless knockback skill can’t actually do anything in a fight.
@@justsomeone883 sorry I mistyped, a version of the dragon claw that does lightning damage. They do that so her spells can take advantage of her own debuff
I use pretty much exactly Ansbach's build. Whenever I fight my friend with it, he rants to me about how op it is. I think how good a build is depends entirely on how well you mesh with it. I can never make magic builds work because I just don't feel comfortable staying back and slinging spells, they just take too long.
a good way to make spell casting builds work with your playstyle is to include melee spells into your kit like Carian slicer/piercer and Gavel of Haima. for incantations, you can include catch flame and o flame
was the furious blade of andbach footage takem before the patch that fixed it? cause the bloodloss buldup feels great now after they fixed the bug, even though it still has no hyper armor or stance damage
hornsent uses some godflame incantation, not sure if it's available to the player, he charges the skill for about 2 secs then 5 orbs seek the player, he kept one shotting me with it in the final npc battle royale
tholliers build is actually not bad, it can be pretty optimised if you just add to it lol like kindred of rot pairs excellently with the deadly poison perfume, plus, if youre not being 100% thiollier, which an average person might not, it can be paired with the poison flower ash of war on something like the venomous fang, to constantly be proccing and refreshing The kindred of rot exultation, as well, if you want to lean into the sleep aspect of it, well, its just as easy lol, im definitely adding his perfume bottle to my deadly poison detonation build lol, ill finally be able to get rid of the dang katana thats had to stay on my hip to carry poison moth flight cause the poison flower blooms twice can go on the venomous fang :D i will lose quickstep tho, so oof
Tf? Moore can also just hit with his shield, the weapon art is not the only thing it can do, are you aware of that? Yes the damage is not outstanding, but you're acting like his only damage option are rot pots, which is simply not true. That build is more than capable of killing bosses cause you're just invincible.
"Passives like bleed and frostbite wouldve made it good" does he know that would only make it become meta in pvp and pve and make it stupid broken the aow on thoillers needle sleep evermore when sleep is procced on an enemy you can hit em with the aow to do STUPID damage. adding bleed would make this stupid
another good video idea would be ranking actual dlc boss builds. Like using everything messmer or rellana uses. i like your channel feller
Thanks! i’ll look into that!
@@PhantomSouls-04deathkinght number one. Both axes in right hand slots, seal and maybe parry shield in left slots. Good mixups
Great video but you forgot the bowl cut for the Queelign build
key part of the kit ngl
@@PhantomSouls-04probably lost at least 30 I frames and 400 AR because of this
St. Trina has the best build. It's called, "If you touch me, you die." Sounds pretty busted, imagine it on PvP.
it's "you sniff me you die"
Just don't drink her nectar, bro
@@Dianbler Hear me out: what about drinking it seven times?
tholliers needle's skill also has boosted damage on sleeping enemies, making it able to function like poison moth / poison flower, albeit with a shorter window to use it. Ledas armor boosts a ton of attack tykes by 10%, which helps her build as well.
A few things (this is said in joking manner)
You missed out on:
- Moore unlimited Hefty rot pot
- Dane hyper armor and infinite stamina
- Hornset one shot consumables
I think they all have infinite fp and stamina, except for the ones with shields.
hornsents fucking consumable thing does like 100 damage when we use it and oneshots when he uses it
@@lharsay Dane is very noticeable, because the guy somehow run faster that any other npc
I love how the Priestess uses a dragon communion incantation instead of a second dragon cult one
Yeah, it makes no sense. Very strange. If she had Lightning Spear and Lansseax's Glaive, as well as Dragonclaw, everything would make sense.
@@deepism it makes sense because she's leading the dragon communion. her using the incantation shows that she's done it at least once
@@paracame8162 Right but I'm saying she should be using both.
Unless she actually does also use red lightning incantations aside from the gavel, and I'm mistaken, it's very strange she only uses communion incantations.
really fun video, only two things to say
hornsent also uses the horn bairne reusable item a lot, only it deals negligible damage when the player uses it
and Moore's shield can actually deal a decent amout of damage if you 2 hand it, I'm pretty sure Moore doesn't use it himself but it's still possible
I believe Moore smacked me with his shield a few times during the Enir-Ilim gank, and the damage is indeed respectable. Don't think it's enough to put him above Igon in this vid, but still something to keep in mind
One thing to mention about the priestess is that she gets a special version of dragon claw that has lightning fx so it works well with her gavel
I love how the explanation for Ymir was “yeah it’s strong but it could be stronger” as you literally show footage of that one spell tearing through health bars💀
It's one of the only good stance-breaking spells too.
@@brandonedwards6119 this along with Knight Lightning Spear can stance break enemies and Boss so fast
Also Ymir should have all the spells he sells, not just the 3 he uses when we fight him
Igon being at last was hard to hear but understandable
Fun Fact: the summoned version of Florrisax uses a special version of Dragon Claw that does lightning damage. It is an incantation that the player cannot access at all, ever. So that's fun 🙂
Count Ymir' build should have the fingercreeper ashes.
Never thought I could love someone just for a video
Most underrated elden ring youtubuer!
I like how the thumbnail is secretly the French flag
99 Vigor 99 Endurance nothing else gigachad Moore
5:20 dragon claw is a dragon communion incantation not dragon cult, so it doesn’t get buffed by the aow
Just saying it here, you forgot the four Mausoleum fights, Dancer of Rannah, Blackgaoil knight, Red bear and Rakshasa, as well as the Lamenter and the greater Potentate.
Edit: You also forgott the other Swordhand of knight, Anna. The one who invades right before Metyr who has the claws of night and shield of night.
And Moonrythill
To be fair none of them are full fledged NPC's in the sense that the rest are.
@@SwordJester yes, and Moonrythill. Thanks.
Dragon man
I'd love to see a video like this for the base game npcs
The hornsent also has a ranged option. A hornsent bairn. A tool that summons spirits above you. Another one of your many oversights in this video.
ansbach’s incantation didn’t have any bleed. The bug is fixed and the incantation is kinda good now, though I’m not sure why you’d use a bleed incantation while already having a bleed weapon. I’m guessing this incantation works better on poison builds. (edit) It’s getting annoying but you can stop telling me about lore, I know that Ansbach is Mohg’s blood knight, he says it in the first goddamn seconds, it’s not a revelation. I’m saying it doesn’t make any gameplay sense, you already have a bleed melee weapon with good damage, why’d you want to use a spell that is melee bleed but less damage and costs fp? It’s cool, yeah but it’s like trying to ride a bike and a car at the same time, it’s not much better than riding a car
also am I the only one weirded out by Dane using golden vow? I thought Miquella’s people oppose the golden order. Now here I need lore explanation, I am really confused and can’t find any answers to this
they were like miquella himself once golden order fundamentelists (probably?), thats why dane also uses discus of light
@@zyx12345abc
as far as I am aware, discus of light was made by Miquella. Dryleaf dudes are Miquella only worshippers, golden vow is kinda off putting
@@thatlittlemonstrosity yeah got it confused with the other one
but him having this spell confirms that he is (or was) a golden order fundamentalist (miquella made this spell for his father and the fundamentalists)
just my interpretation of this
@@zyx12345abc
that makes more sense now but it's quite the gymnastics to justify a spell that seems ironically the most out of place
The incantation is there for lore reasons, not for build purposes, it serves a narrative, just like the everything else. It says in a description that Ansbach only uses it when he's ambushed/caught off guard by the enemy, and doesn't have the time to draw his long scythe, or when someone knocks the scythe out of his hands during battle, and he's disarmed, he instead strikes them with his hand as a last ditch effort, turning his arm into a blood flame blade.
Love how Dane's build turns you into a human blender, but when he uses it when "assisting" you in Romina's fight, he makes it look weak as hell. Romina is already easy enough, and all Dane does for the fight is increase her hp when summoned, meaning the person who's supposed to help you in that fight ultimately just turns it into the challenge run version of the fight.
I think I saw Count Ymir cast Microcosm at one point, but I'm honestly not sure.
Dynastic sickleplay is based on dynasty's finesse actually, the bloody helice's skill
took me til the dlc to realize the helice had a 3rd input 😂
Awesome video!
Thiollier’s build is lowkey a sleeper(no pun intended). If you put on the exultation talisman that boosts damage when poison is in vicinity. After inflicting sleep and then using the aow on his perfume weapon. You can get the buff while the enemy is sleep and then change back to the fist weapon. And you could probably use st trina smile too.
Dryleaf Dane also uses Lord’s Heal.
Poor Moore. I like the guy, and when he actually swings his shield, he can do a lotta damage. But otherwise, rot pots and a useless knockback skill can’t actually do anything in a fight.
Ansbach also uses rapier, tho that wont help much with the ranking
The dragon priestess actually has a spell that you cannot use. A version of the dragon claw does lightning damage to take advantage of her debuff
Is that the incantation's name? What does it even do?
@@justsomeone883 sorry I mistyped, a version of the dragon claw that does lightning damage. They do that so her spells can take advantage of her own debuff
@@stephanie_jjb oh ok,my bad
Alright, hear me out.
The Madding Hand.
Moore also attacks with his shield.
I use pretty much exactly Ansbach's build. Whenever I fight my friend with it, he rants to me about how op it is. I think how good a build is depends entirely on how well you mesh with it. I can never make magic builds work because I just don't feel comfortable staying back and slinging spells, they just take too long.
a good way to make spell casting builds work with your playstyle is to include melee spells into your kit like Carian slicer/piercer and Gavel of Haima.
for incantations, you can include catch flame and o flame
w vid idea
I made a build with Moores kit called TANK using his stuff, rabbaths cannon, iron jar aromatics and the repeating crossbow
Not good but fun as hell
I think you forgot Anna and the rest of the mausoleum spirit builds but otherwise great video!
Bro didn’t include Ancient Dragon Man. He sweeps Dryleaf Dane any day.
Just fought Bayle as three Igons (Igon, Igon’s build, and Mimic Tear Igon) and slaughtered him, Greatbow? More like GOATbow
was the furious blade of andbach footage takem before the patch that fixed it? cause the bloodloss buldup feels great now after they fixed the bug, even though it still has no hyper armor or stance damage
Florissax has a unique dragon claw with red lightning so she may be a bit stronger.
I get why Moore is last but hit them with the shield it does about a thousand damage
you can do an anna build, same as jolan but with claws of the night
Doesn’t Igons yelling make you invincible?
He’s obviously number 1
Lamina lmao. No T. Im sure someone else said that already
Does the regular dragon heart not count?
Now all base game npcs.
I could make a havel build with moore armor
hornsent uses some godflame incantation, not sure if it's available to the player, he charges the skill for about 2 secs then 5 orbs seek the player, he kept one shotting me with it in the final npc battle royale
That's a reusable Item and it's not blackflame even though it looks like it
There's is one, form tree avatar on the way to twoheaded turtle talisman. It's bad, we miss out on the one shot variant
tholliers build is actually not bad, it can be pretty optimised if you just add to it lol
like
kindred of rot pairs excellently with the deadly poison perfume, plus, if youre not being 100% thiollier, which an average person might not, it can be paired with the poison flower ash of war on something like the venomous fang, to constantly be proccing and refreshing The kindred of rot exultation, as well, if you want to lean into the sleep aspect of it, well, its just as easy lol, im definitely adding his perfume bottle to my deadly poison detonation build lol, ill finally be able to get rid of the dang katana thats had to stay on my hip to carry poison moth flight cause the poison flower blooms twice can go on the venomous fang :D
i will lose quickstep tho, so oof
well, if you have to add to it to make it viable, it's quite bad
Tf? Moore can also just hit with his shield, the weapon art is not the only thing it can do, are you aware of that? Yes the damage is not outstanding, but you're acting like his only damage option are rot pots, which is simply not true. That build is more than capable of killing bosses cause you're just invincible.
to my knowledge furious blade of ansbach is bugged and doesnt do any bleed at all
They fixed it
Does Moore's charge itself not do any damage?
according to the wiki and my testing it does not deal any damage lmao
chad ansbach
“npcs don’t really have a way of telling me theirs” idk, did you try asking them nicely?
they blew me off……
Thought you could be sneaky and slide the French flag in the thumbnail, huh?
I just noticed that lmao……
What about Jolan?
I talk about this build at 8:53
"Passives like bleed and frostbite wouldve made it good"
does he know that would only make it become meta in pvp and pve and make it stupid broken
the aow on thoillers needle sleep evermore
when sleep is procced on an enemy you can hit em with the aow to do STUPID damage.
adding bleed would make this stupid
With these bad skills, why bother adding them to the game at all? Do they not test them?
Nah number 6 is the best