As a diehard Celtics fan, I think it's crazy to say Tatum is above Steph. We love Tatum here in Boston but we're starting to wonder if he's ever going to be good enough to get over the hump. He's very inconsistent at times, esp in the playoffs. He shows up in big games but if we're going to consider him great then he needs to start showing up when it matters and stop letting series go 6-7 games. Steph is on another level, esp since we can't beat the Warriors for some reason
@@25nomind yes he is still great, my question would be what do he need to do to get over the hump? What does he need to work on? He needs separation definitely.
We forget how young Tatum still is. The man made it to the finals as 24 year old and been in the playoffs consistently his whole career. Lebron didn’t win it all till 27 and same with Jordan. He’s right where he’s supposed to be. The man is still getting better believe it or not.
@@Jay95914 but he hasn't been that player in those moments. Even with the players he's surrounded with. Remember lebron or Jordan has had the players Tatum had, never the less Jordan and Lebton dominated in those moments, Tatum not so. A.I. did it as well, he dominated. Just when Tatum needed to stand out, he backed down.
As a Celtics fan, I still say Curry. Tatum is obviously much better on defense, but at times he still has offensive blunders. There are moments he'll keep shooting contested 3s even if they're not falling, moments where he just doesn't take advantage of mismatches (like tonight against Curry). If he gets more "game smart", then he'll pass Curry.
Bro most 6’10 basketball players are gona be much better than a 6’2 point guard. Steph still holds his own. And comparing everything else. Tatum not even close. NO WHERE NEAR STEPH
Was thinking the same. Also Stack Jack saying he's never heard anyone say "bob Myers left because he didn't wanna be the one to break up the crew" shows he ain't paying attention to anything lmao
DIPSET! Love KillaCam as a diehard fan of both Cam'Ron and Warriors, hearing Cam talk about my team feels surreal.. So happy he has this outlet now because he knows his stuff, him and Mase were a problem in Highschool on the court.. They just went different paths after highschool and still did their thing, but you can feel their passion for ball..
He just dont have the same impact on the game like he once did . Also he dont be hitting tuff fadeaway jumpers as much as he use to and he dont have the first burst of speed of the dribble
Celtics fan, here: it's Steph. It *should* be Tatum, he's the more talented player, bigger, stronger, and considerably more athletic, but he's in his own way too much. He's got no dawg. If Tatum had gone out with that ankle in the first, the Celtics would have crushed the Warriors, bc the offense would have never slowed down - Tatum stops the ball when he feels like he needs to show out, and that meant losing the pace advantage the Celtics usually enjoy. Also, he treated Kuminga like he was Tony Allen, and refused to body or challenge him, settling for some really awful shots, all game long. C's stopped pushing, and bc they stopped pushing, they stopped getting stops - every game where Tatum seizes up is like this. They are easy to forget when he's effortlessly dropping 35, but these nights happen too much for comfort. By comparison, Steph just waited around for three quarters, and then did what needed to be done. Even when he slows down in the next year or two, Curry's going to be a top tier contributor, bc you cannot teach clutch, and he's got it. The torch will pass at some point, maybe to Tatum, maybe not, but for now, its Curry.
Klay has been playing great his last 5 games and history says klay always has slow starts and finishes strong. If Klay lives up to that, im trading Draymond
I gott give it to chef, if we're choosing between these two players. Most of what Tatum does in a game, I'd say Curry can do in some respects. Though Tatum's handles are 3 pt threat isn't as scary as Curry.
The best American player is still Lebron, best scorer is still KD and best shooter is still Curry. It has been that way for last decade and it still the same!
As a Warriors fan its hard not to be biased, id choose Curry 10 times out of 10 BUT that doesnt mean Tatum isnt the 2nd best American player even above Lebron right now.
Tatum's better than LeBron. Not better than KD. Shouldn't even be a debate about Steph. Steph beat him straight up with an inferior team so Tatum vs Steph shouldn't be a debate topic at all
*How old is this? Because out of the last 14 games in 11 of them Klay has scored 25 pts a game, at about 5 threes a game, while guarding the best players*
Yooo it's crazy how they be overlooking Steph; Tatum is nice and I see why people be high on him. But he ain't even close to Steph. I can't even compare the 2. I put Tatum and PG in the bracket. I'll give Tatum the edge cause hes younger. But Steph is that dude night in and night out.
If i was GSW i'd trade Dray, i dont want to be disrespectful but, if you have Klay, nobody gonna throw double teams on Steph. Second, with Kuminga and Podziemski now, they bring the rebounding and energy for that pace and space basketball that Klay & Steph need So, as soon as you have steph with the ball, Klay is for sure coming off screens to catch and shoot and if Klay is not open, you gonna get Steph on a 1-on-1 or either shooting deep.
Do you want to be the farewell tour franchise or a championship franchise? When the Warriors said they were lightyears ahead of everyone else, they need to prove it. Other dynasties like the Patriots always moved off of players early. You can't win basketball based on faith and loyalty alone. Klay missed over 200 games on a max deal. He already received his thank you contract. They gave Draymond a gift. He is old and declining and was a chemistry problem but still got paid above market value because his value was only that high for one team. In a league about space, Draymond doesn't provide it although he is shooting better this year. The Warriors need some size and flexibility. Maybe the young players are being held back by the veterans instead of being taught by them. The Warriors have to move on. Other dynasties have done it by knowing when to move on.
Stop lying to yourself. Lilliard, Booker, Tatum, Brown, Trae, Ja, Ingram, Zion, Fox, Mitchell, Haliburton, Maxey, AD, Melo, Anthony Edward's, KAT, Bam, Randle are all under 30 and average 25 or better in their sleep!!!
@Defort-jd8xe Lil buddy stop lying to yourself... The USA has 5 championships in World cup basketball... The USA is 143-6 against ALL FOREIGN PLAYERS IN THE OLYMPICS 🤣🤣🤣
@@804MRMAN hell, nowadays probably 50 guys could average 25 if they got the shots, it doesn't mean what it used to mean. That team, all those names you just mentioned could NOT win Olympics or World's... other teams just play smarter than us. Fact!!!
@pputnam100 Why does the TRUTH hurt people? Why do yall ignore that? I literally just told you the record of Americans ( which were 98% black ) in tbasketball against the world??? WE LIVE IN REALITY, AND NOT WHAT YOU THINK.
Lol! Klay will sign 3yrs 100m. He will take a paycut They will all retire as a warriors. CP3 will eventually go they just need him to get rid of Poole's contract.. their rooks are pretty goods podzeimski and Davis. Kuminga is developing.. Wiggins is I think is the only trade piece for a good big. As long as they are healthy their experience is the key.
wtf? Someone smoking some shiet bro. You can’t compare steph with anyone other than Lebron currently. And jokic who is really climbing up fast with mvps and now a ring. Giannis too. It’s those four
Yall poll results say Lebron James is still the best player in America! We all already knew who was the best, but people just looking for a reason to not say he is still the best which at this point is just laughable.
The warriors are using the younglings and are looking must better. Klay and dray will retire with the warriors. Klay looking real good and dray has double digit games. The new crew is mixing well. Watch out
As a diehard Celtics fan, I think it's crazy to say Tatum is above Steph. We love Tatum here in Boston but we're starting to wonder if he's ever going to be good enough to get over the hump. He's very inconsistent at times, esp in the playoffs. He shows up in big games but if we're going to consider him great then he needs to start showing up when it matters and stop letting series go 6-7 games. Steph is on another level, esp since we can't beat the Warriors for some reason
Totally agree! And just haven’t shown up in the moments he needed to
just imagine how much better the Celtics would be if Tatum and Steph switched teams. they're not in the same tier (Tatum still great though)
@@25nomind yes he is still great, my question would be what do he need to do to get over the hump? What does he need to work on? He needs separation definitely.
We forget how young Tatum still is. The man made it to the finals as 24 year old and been in the playoffs consistently his whole career. Lebron didn’t win it all till 27 and same with Jordan. He’s right where he’s supposed to be. The man is still getting better believe it or not.
@@Jay95914 but he hasn't been that player in those moments. Even with the players he's surrounded with. Remember lebron or Jordan has had the players Tatum had, never the less Jordan and Lebton dominated in those moments, Tatum not so. A.I. did it as well, he dominated. Just when Tatum needed to stand out, he backed down.
Tatum is great, but he is no where near Steph as an all time great. Gotta get a ring.
I love Stacks respecting Cam keeping it 💯 about the WARRIORS GM
People been saying that for months. That ain’t a hot take.
@@g.o.a.tsports2880 bob literally said that in a tongue and cheek comment on espn hahahahhaha!
Unnecessary praise.
Staxk a groupie
Steph has more talent in his pinky toe than Tatum has in his whole body 😂😂
💀💀💀
Bruh steph is crazy talented lol. Unless Tatum has other skills I don’t know about. Steph is a fantastic golfer
As a Celtics fan, I still say Curry. Tatum is obviously much better on defense, but at times he still has offensive blunders. There are moments he'll keep shooting contested 3s even if they're not falling, moments where he just doesn't take advantage of mismatches (like tonight against Curry). If he gets more "game smart", then he'll pass Curry.
Curry owns Lil Tatum
It’s all mental with Tatum. He’s not a killer.
Bro most 6’10 basketball players are gona be much better than a 6’2 point guard. Steph still holds his own. And comparing everything else. Tatum not even close. NO WHERE NEAR STEPH
Yo Cam broke it down to the tee! Me following Warriors day-to-day, he was talking that real stuff of what’s going with team 🤟
Was thinking the same. Also Stack Jack saying he's never heard anyone say "bob Myers left because he didn't wanna be the one to break up the crew" shows he ain't paying attention to anything lmao
DIPSET! Love KillaCam as a diehard fan of both Cam'Ron and Warriors, hearing Cam talk about my team feels surreal.. So happy he has this outlet now because he knows his stuff, him and Mase were a problem in Highschool on the court.. They just went different paths after highschool and still did their thing, but you can feel their passion for ball..
they way you talk freely without we worry about offending people is refreshing to hear
Steph all week and twice on Sunday.
On god
Good take Cam your backing up your points with facts.
ppl acting like KD is not averaging 30ppg this season.. crazy
It sickens me to the bone, man
He just dont have the same impact on the game like he once did . Also he dont be hitting tuff fadeaway jumpers as much as he use to and he dont have the first burst of speed of the dribble
he still averaging 30ppg. So lebron avg 26 everyone praise him, kd does it and doesnt have impact? uh@@chrisw4405
Incomparable, ❤❤
Tatum over Steph is CRAZY
I told my brother the exact same thing Bob Myers didn't wanna be put in that position
Now we know that Klay is gone to Dallas but are the Warriors good enough to contend?
Haven’t been keeping up with ATS, but this is an episode id definitely want to see
I stop watching it. Sometimes they’re on the fence about certain topics so I just don’t watch it. In the beginning it was better.
Steph every single day. 🎉❤
A children of the corn member..Rip Bloodshed Rip Big L 139 Lennox HARLEM the danger zone somebody's gotta do it....enter the sandman BIG L
Big L the nicest from Harlem to me.
@@theonewhoisbetterthanyou3570 True with more game than Ron Harper....Harper was nice thou.Big L is my favorite Mc of all time
Cam is so good
How come Cam'ron is starting to sound like he's the younger brother of Doc Rivers or something. 😂
As hard as it is to hear the truth about my warriors I respect cam more now.
Klay needs a change of venue to become the late stage Klay. He won’t change at Golden State
Fully support the camronessaince 💯
Tf kind of question is this loool, ps Cam speaking the gospel here lool 🤝🏾
Man its time to put him in the conversation
Celtics fan, here: it's Steph. It *should* be Tatum, he's the more talented player, bigger, stronger, and considerably more athletic, but he's in his own way too much. He's got no dawg. If Tatum had gone out with that ankle in the first, the Celtics would have crushed the Warriors, bc the offense would have never slowed down - Tatum stops the ball when he feels like he needs to show out, and that meant losing the pace advantage the Celtics usually enjoy. Also, he treated Kuminga like he was Tony Allen, and refused to body or challenge him, settling for some really awful shots, all game long. C's stopped pushing, and bc they stopped pushing, they stopped getting stops - every game where Tatum seizes up is like this.
They are easy to forget when he's effortlessly dropping 35, but these nights happen too much for comfort.
By comparison, Steph just waited around for three quarters, and then did what needed to be done. Even when he slows down in the next year or two, Curry's going to be a top tier contributor, bc you cannot teach clutch, and he's got it. The torch will pass at some point, maybe to Tatum, maybe not, but for now, its Curry.
Tatum is not the more talented player. You Celtics fans just be talking out your ass🤡
This fire
Klay has been playing great his last 5 games and history says klay always has slow starts and finishes strong. If Klay lives up to that, im trading Draymond
I gott give it to chef, if we're choosing between these two players. Most of what Tatum does in a game, I'd say Curry can do in some respects. Though Tatum's handles are 3 pt threat isn't as scary as Curry.
Its shai gilgeous alexander per analytics. Mj statline and im not sure hes peaked
He finished 4th last year and hes number 2 after joels big push.
Shai's Canadian
I got to look at the numbers again. But chances are its still KD. 1 of the most hated on super stars of all time. Currys people's favorite tho🤷🏽♂️
It's KD, watch the Olympics last year when they got into trouble. Tatum and co did F-all and KD saved the day multiple times in multiple games
The best American player is still Lebron, best scorer is still KD and best shooter is still Curry. It has been that way for last decade and it still the same!
I have a feeling that this episode will be hilarious
As a Warriors fan its hard not to be biased, id choose Curry 10 times out of 10 BUT that doesnt mean Tatum isnt the 2nd best American player even above Lebron right now.
Tatum's better than LeBron. Not better than KD. Shouldn't even be a debate about Steph. Steph beat him straight up with an inferior team so Tatum vs Steph shouldn't be a debate topic at all
American player I'm saying kd I'm mad he not brought up more. Especially with how he's been playing this year
Kd hasn't lead a team to a ring yet, I thin that's why they pick curry, plus curry has a bigger impact.
@@spawnkiller4762
What are you talking about?
He led GSW to 2 rings!!!
@onil.o.3994 lol no that was curry team
Tatum was in playoff from last night 😂
*How old is this? Because out of the last 14 games in 11 of them Klay has scored 25 pts a game, at about 5 threes a game, while guarding the best players*
11 of what? U are seriously lying. Klay hasn't even scored 25pts in 10 games this season and go look up his abysmal shooting stats
@@ycshittu5412lol bruh got his stats from 2k
@@ycshittu5412Klay be on one
@@ycshittu5412😂😂😂 got him and the dummies that liked his lie
@@ycshittu5412nah I looked it up his last 10 games he had 7 games where he scored 20+ points last 4 he had 24, 28, 24, 30
Klay BALLING Rn . Last 4 games he been coming through 🎯
Yooo it's crazy how they be overlooking Steph; Tatum is nice and I see why people be high on him. But he ain't even close to Steph. I can't even compare the 2. I put Tatum and PG in the bracket. I'll give Tatum the edge cause hes younger. But Steph is that dude night in and night out.
Steph is a much better player. Tatum is taller.
I Must Say, Steph Curry.. ❤❤❤
Steph all day
Cam be on his shit
If i was GSW i'd trade Dray, i dont want to be disrespectful but, if you have Klay, nobody gonna throw double teams on Steph.
Second, with Kuminga and Podziemski now, they bring the rebounding and energy for that pace and space basketball that Klay & Steph need
So, as soon as you have steph with the ball, Klay is for sure coming off screens to catch and shoot and if Klay is not open, you gonna get Steph on a 1-on-1 or either shooting deep.
Curry, KD & Bron before Tatum.
It's the light skin brother over in Boston honestly!!!
So i guess what Kd doing is just so so 🤔
Kd isn't better than Steph. Never has been since 2014.
@@remnant8898 KD is clearly better than steph this season
@@remnant8898u smoking major 🍆
NEVER SKIP LEG DAY BOYS
They fucked up when they gave Draymond 100m for 4 years. You have to give Klay the same, or he will fill some type of way.
Nah cam is not no casual, my nigga brought hella examples n shit
Curry for sure,💯💯💯
Do you want to be the farewell tour franchise or a championship franchise?
When the Warriors said they were lightyears ahead of everyone else, they need to prove it. Other dynasties like the Patriots always moved off of players early. You can't win basketball based on faith and loyalty alone. Klay missed over 200 games on a max deal. He already received his thank you contract. They gave Draymond a gift. He is old and declining and was a chemistry problem but still got paid above market value because his value was only that high for one team. In a league about space, Draymond doesn't provide it although he is shooting better this year.
The Warriors need some size and flexibility. Maybe the young players are being held back by the veterans instead of being taught by them. The Warriors have to move on. Other dynasties have done it by knowing when to move on.
steph easily wtf steph a 4x champ comparing him to someone with no rings is crazy 😂
Steph for sure after last night lmao
Fuck that loyalty shit its not like they are gonna be out of league help Steph when he still have the game
Tatum is inconsistent af! You'll never know what you'll get from him on big games. Classic example was last game against the warriors.
Great Celtics players were consistent every night
US basketball is truly doomed if Tatum is the best you got.
Stop lying to yourself. Lilliard, Booker, Tatum, Brown, Trae, Ja, Ingram, Zion, Fox, Mitchell, Haliburton, Maxey, AD, Melo, Anthony Edward's, KAT, Bam, Randle are all under 30 and average 25 or better in their sleep!!!
@@804MRMAN and they're still not even close to being best.
Same as the US.. who failed in the WC for a SECOND time. Revenge team my ass lmao
@Defort-jd8xe Lil buddy stop lying to yourself... The USA has 5 championships in World cup basketball... The USA is 143-6 against ALL FOREIGN PLAYERS IN THE OLYMPICS 🤣🤣🤣
@@804MRMAN hell, nowadays probably 50 guys could average 25 if they got the shots, it doesn't mean what it used to mean. That team, all those names you just mentioned could NOT win Olympics or World's... other teams just play smarter than us. Fact!!!
@pputnam100 Why does the TRUTH hurt people? Why do yall ignore that? I literally just told you the record of Americans ( which were 98% black ) in tbasketball against the world??? WE LIVE IN REALITY, AND NOT WHAT YOU THINK.
Is that even a question? Steph all the way. Boston has a chance to go deep, but Steph is the ultimate performer and oh yeah, the better player.
Cam is cool cat
Kawhi.....full stop
If you want any player in a playoff series you take 1A Curry 1B KD and the everyone else
That 2022 championship says it all curry
Bron still the best player....the man the oldest in the league & without him lakers would NOT have a winning record
You mean without AD. Lakers go as far as he takes them.
The truth was said about Klay and Dray.. choosing Dray over Poole was a huge mistake
KD is the best American player
Bad timing to put this up. Dubs up.
I dont know what the hell these guys are talking about, the best American born player right now is KD or Bron
Lol! Klay will sign 3yrs 100m. He will take a paycut They will all retire as a warriors. CP3 will eventually go they just need him to get rid of Poole's contract.. their rooks are pretty goods podzeimski and Davis. Kuminga is developing.. Wiggins is I think is the only trade piece for a good big. As long as they are healthy their experience is the key.
Did Kevin Durant retire ?
Kd>Stephanie
Another nail in the US-worldchamp coffin.
Its not even in discussion that the best player is from the US. Hell, they barely make the top 5 lmao
Kd get so much hate
What!! Step!!!
as a Celtic fan I don't think tatum is #1. why not mention embiid or Jokic?? edwards is in the top 7
Trading Klay because he’s having a bad start is crazy.
What has Tatum accomplished ?
wtf? Someone smoking some shiet bro. You can’t compare steph with anyone other than Lebron currently. And jokic who is really climbing up fast with mvps and now a ring. Giannis too. It’s those four
Lebron is still the best and i hate to say that
Steph and it ain't close
Steph. Next question
Ant is the best now!
Soon, soon. Not yet.
This only shooter thing I'd ridiculous
How tf is this even a damn question
Tatum very talented, but isn’t a dog.
Ridiculous. Of course it's Curry. Hell, and I HATE the Warriors, but he's far more consistent than Tatum.
Yall poll results say Lebron James is still the best player in America! We all already knew who was the best, but people just looking for a reason to not say he is still the best which at this point is just laughable.
American? North or South?
Kawhi
Where mase
How when Steph when out in the second round last year and he 12th place right now wtf
Steph beat Tatum for his 4th ring you left that out
@@mtmtae4020 I said neither one are the best American player ….
Please don’t compare isn’t unfair to Tatum by a lot
Steph ain't retiring before Lebron, so who knows how many more years he's going to play
Dubs are waking up and it’s scary!!
Lmao
Steph all day no signs of slowing down
I mean one beat the other one for a championship 2 years ago
The warriors are using the younglings and are looking must better. Klay and dray will retire with the warriors. Klay looking real good and dray has double digit games. The new crew is mixing well. Watch out
They capping on Tatum
I’m hearing a lot of Jokic disrespect.
Steph Tatum Morant