Whether it ends up working out or not I always like seeing new technology being tested. I always thought the hydrogen fuel cell idea for passenger cars was pretty neat. But as I understood it the extraction of hydrogen from water requires a lot of electricity which is typically generated via the usual means. So i'd be interested to see how it all ends up by the time it's all said and done. Of course there are no free lunches when it comes to generating work, in this case, tractive effort. There continue to be progression in the technologies. Even if it's further efficiencies of the diesel electrics we all love. So I look forward to following this one. Now that being said I still think the turbo EMD 16-645 and 20-645 prime movers make some of the most glorious mechanical noises ever created by an internal combustion engine and I hope that those giants of the golden age will always serve railroads in some capacity even if it's just switching or locals. Also I dig the paint job.
I don't like CSX that much as of now but I support that project since it combines the shells of the past with the future and at very least makes a valuable effort to better the emissions problem. So nice job on this one.
I like how they don't explain how the engine works or anything. Just them patting themselves on the back for just doing it. It'll be in the Waycross deadline in 2 years
If it’s truly hydrogen fuel cells, that’s easy enough to find on the Internet. Basically fuel cells combine hydrogen and oxygen, and the results are electricity and actually water as a byproduct.
I’m happy to see you guys are teaming up with CPKC to experiment with Hydrogen motive power, and I’ll say 2100 has a good and colorful livery to show for it. I’ve also heard that NS is working with Alstom to convert a few units to hybrid battery powered units, I’m curious as to what will come of that. I hope 2100 will perform well out there and that you continue your innovative work on these types of projects from here. And even if it’s not successful, there’s nothing wrong with trying new power for diesel locomotives.
You need to show it with accompanying tender used for the hydrogen consumed for daily use. Like natural all natural gases, the gas contains far less BTU’s than diesel and will need far more volumes of fuels to perform the same work as a diesel powered unit.
I’m just insanely glad they used old, frame, cab, trucks,etc. saving the world from the carbon compounds that would have been emitted manufacturing from scratch all those parts…. 😑 Edit: Volcanoes: Hold our beers
oh god. is this what the main of every train (in the form of some hydrogen gevo), cuz i want the gevos, geeps, AC44s that we have today when i attempt to sign up as an engineer.
I don't know this locomotive going to be great for a yard switching or local trains or both can wait see a heavy train pulling by this locomotive power of hydrogen
This is a yard switcher, wont be pulling freight on the mainline. Not exactly going to send ripples through the industry. It will be shown off and sidelined in no time. The only sales verbage left off this promo viseo was A.I.
European railroads are not American railroads. Just because something works for Europe, doesn’t mean it works everywhere. I think it’s a much better idea to have locomotives that can power themselves instead of locomotives that are 100% useless without an overhead line. Having overhead wires makes sense for Europe because yall don’t have near as much rail, and your cities are closer together. Again, just because something works in Europe, doesn’t mean it works everywhere.
@@SouthlandRails 1. the Milwaukee Road used electric locomotives starting in the 1910s. 2. The Trans-Siberian Railway is electric and it goes through very sparsely populated areas. 3. What about the areas, besides the Northeast, where the US has cities close together?
@@IGuessIDoThings1. The milwaukee road’s electrification program cost over a billion dollars and bankrupted the company twice. 2. The electrification of multiple rail-lines sin the us would require at least ~30 billion USD with the costs needed for additional sub stations, power-stations, on top of the required wire and catenary infrastructure. The only reason why electrification has not taken off in more parts of the US is due to the ease of just using non-overhead wire locomotives. Why invest in more wires when you can just run one type of locomotive across the entire system. Shared parts, shared engines, shared fuel source. Hydrogen/battery is one of the cheapest alternatives to mass-electrification and will likely be rolled out before railways look into smashing catenaries into the ground. Anyway, its not like NA is completely allergic to electrification. For example, in the energy crisis of the 1970s, many RRs looked into electrifying, but it ended before anything could be done. The GF-6Cs eventually got mixed into C40-8Ms on Tumbler Ridge, the Conrail electrics eventually got replaced by diesels, the MILW tore up their power lines for money, ontop of many other examples of mainline de-electrification. The only type of movement that electricity made sense for was passenger, as that was a predictable route, that ran at high-speeds. Of course it’d be easier to just use the already existing overhead lines. On the other hand, freight goes much, much farther than NEC or Peninsula passenger routes, and most railways figure it’d be easier to use power that is more convenient system wide than for specific regions. Why use a type of locomotive that shares little parts with others, than using a standard type with abundant spare parts? Imo this is the main reason why electrification failed in the US. In the end, just because EuRoPe HaS iT doesn’t mean it would work everywhere. YES it is proven, YES they have it, but do we look like Europe? Do we look like Russia? No, this is North America. The pursuit of non-overhead wire locomotives is mainly due to cheaper costs, because in the end, these are businesses, not government subsidiaries as they are in Europe.
@Skywarriorguru Do you have anything to back that up? 😆 I'm a conductor/engineer. I love me some good diesels as much as the next guy. Old EMD geeps that load quickly and start fast, hell yeah. I'll run those things all day. The fact of the matter is, though, progress isn't a bad thing. Yes even old diesels burn very clean compared to any kind of rubber wheeled vehicle, but again that doesn't mean we can't make progress. Hydrogen isn't gonna replace everything tomorrow. What's the problem with having motors around with a different fuel source?
@@SkywarriorguruDiesels on top. For real. And I say that as a German, in a country where more than 50% of the nowaday existing network is electric. And most private railways here are running Diesels too.
At first I thought it read Hydrogen Peroxide locomotive. 😂
Whether it ends up working out or not I always like seeing new technology being tested. I always thought the hydrogen fuel cell idea for passenger cars was pretty neat. But as I understood it the extraction of hydrogen from water requires a lot of electricity which is typically generated via the usual means. So i'd be interested to see how it all ends up by the time it's all said and done. Of course there are no free lunches when it comes to generating work, in this case, tractive effort. There continue to be progression in the technologies. Even if it's further efficiencies of the diesel electrics we all love. So I look forward to following this one. Now that being said I still think the turbo EMD 16-645 and 20-645 prime movers make some of the most glorious mechanical noises ever created by an internal combustion engine and I hope that those giants of the golden age will always serve railroads in some capacity even if it's just switching or locals.
Also I dig the paint job.
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I don't like CSX that much as of now but I support that project since it combines the shells of the past with the future and at very least makes a valuable effort to better the emissions problem. So nice job on this one.
I aspire to work at CSX, all of these makes me wanna work there more.
I like how they don't explain how the engine works or anything. Just them patting themselves on the back for just doing it. It'll be in the Waycross deadline in 2 years
If it’s truly hydrogen fuel cells, that’s easy enough to find on the Internet. Basically fuel cells combine hydrogen and oxygen, and the results are electricity and actually water as a byproduct.
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You could literally the same engine (with a few mods) to run on hydrogen
But at least they finally color the cab for once
Beautiful looking locomotive. Looks like a Heritage unit. I Love heritage units.
This paint scheme is so much better than CPKC! Good job on that, hope it performs well.
No dafuq it's not 😂, you tweakin
I’m happy to see you guys are teaming up with CPKC to experiment with Hydrogen motive power, and I’ll say 2100 has a good and colorful livery to show for it. I’ve also heard that NS is working with Alstom to convert a few units to hybrid battery powered units, I’m curious as to what will come of that.
I hope 2100 will perform well out there and that you continue your innovative work on these types of projects from here. And even if it’s not successful, there’s nothing wrong with trying new power for diesel locomotives.
I love the paint scheme on this little engine.
I wish the paint was used on the newest CM44 locomotives because they would stand out to me.
You need to show it with accompanying tender used for the hydrogen consumed for daily use. Like natural all natural gases, the gas contains far less BTU’s than diesel and will need far more volumes of fuels to perform the same work as a diesel powered unit.
Not too crazy about the livery, but maybe it'll grow on me. It'll be interesting to see how this locomotive performs
Now let us see it in Action.
2 Pro’s: Good Colors and Fuel Type
2 Con’s: Hard to figure out!
Well, the shareholders are happy now. Hooray. 🎉😑
LOL
I’m just insanely glad they used old, frame, cab, trucks,etc. saving the world from the carbon compounds that would have been emitted manufacturing from scratch all those parts…. 😑
Edit:
Volcanoes: Hold our beers
This is such a great idea!
I get why there is H2 after GP38. H2 is the formula for Hydrogen.
This is a nice locomotive!
Heritage units are on the move east to west, south to north. Always cool to see in person.😎🚂😎🚂😎🚂
The colors on this locomotive are nice
The CSX Gevo hydrogen locomotive is gonna look so buns bro🙏🏾😭
Manufacturing hydrogen makes emissions, also this is going to be the Hindenburg tragedy 2.0
Pov: Out of place CSX heritage unit be like:
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CSX doesn't do the entire locomotive in heritage livery... Just the part behind the cab.
Just wow
oh god. is this what the main of every train (in the form of some hydrogen gevo), cuz i want the gevos, geeps, AC44s that we have today when i attempt to sign up as an engineer.
Wow my eyes hurt
Who let csx cook with the paint?
@a-indefinite6804 That's what I meant. who Let them make this terrible paint scheme.
Cpkc csx heritage paint scheme when?
There won’t be because CPKC is not a part of CSX’s heritage
How soon till it makes a test trip on the Old B&O Mainline, and a trip to the B&O museum for promo
Y'all if you don't like the locomotive how it looks so far, then you should click off of this video and then leave 😭🙏
True!
Was anyone able to identify what horn this locomotive has?
Probably a nathan K5LA Or something.
@ yeah maybe, who knows
It’s located right by the town I live by, Huntington WV
@CSX Nuclear powered, anyone?
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(interpret this how you'd like to, it's just a joke calm down)
Bruh CSX submarine when? XD
Bruh what is this 😭🙏
Better emissions lol.
So get rid of the diesels cause of the climate grift got it
I don't know this locomotive going to be great for a yard switching or local trains or both can wait see a heavy train pulling by this locomotive power of hydrogen
Oh gosh.
This is a yard switcher, wont be pulling freight on the mainline. Not exactly going to send ripples through the industry. It will be shown off and sidelined in no time. The only sales verbage left off this promo viseo was A.I.
Will this be parked next to the Norfolk Southern's battery locomotive in a year or less?
Sweet new heritage unit
Meanwhile European railroads just watching America be kinda stupid
Why? In Europe Volvo is making a VL semi that is hydrogen hybrid....
European railroads are not American railroads. Just because something works for Europe, doesn’t mean it works everywhere. I think it’s a much better idea to have locomotives that can power themselves instead of locomotives that are 100% useless without an overhead line. Having overhead wires makes sense for Europe because yall don’t have near as much rail, and your cities are closer together. Again, just because something works in Europe, doesn’t mean it works everywhere.
@ Europe already has electric locomotives, which are a proven technology
@@SouthlandRails 1. the Milwaukee Road used electric locomotives starting in the 1910s. 2. The Trans-Siberian Railway is electric and it goes through very sparsely populated areas. 3. What about the areas, besides the Northeast, where the US has cities close together?
@@IGuessIDoThings1. The milwaukee road’s electrification program cost over a billion dollars and bankrupted the company twice. 2. The electrification of multiple rail-lines sin the us would require at least ~30 billion USD with the costs needed for additional sub stations, power-stations, on top of the required wire and catenary infrastructure.
The only reason why electrification has not taken off in more parts of the US is due to the ease of just using non-overhead wire locomotives. Why invest in more wires when you can just run one type of locomotive across the entire system. Shared parts, shared engines, shared fuel source. Hydrogen/battery is one of the cheapest alternatives to mass-electrification and will likely be rolled out before railways look into smashing catenaries into the ground. Anyway, its not like NA is completely allergic to electrification. For example, in the energy crisis of the 1970s, many RRs looked into electrifying, but it ended before anything could be done.
The GF-6Cs eventually got mixed into C40-8Ms on Tumbler Ridge, the Conrail electrics eventually got replaced by diesels, the MILW tore up their power lines for money, ontop of many other examples of mainline de-electrification. The only type of movement that electricity made sense for was passenger, as that was a predictable route, that ran at high-speeds. Of course it’d be easier to just use the already existing overhead lines. On the other hand, freight goes much, much farther than NEC or Peninsula passenger routes, and most railways figure it’d be easier to use power that is more convenient system wide than for specific regions. Why use a type of locomotive that shares little parts with others, than using a standard type with abundant spare parts? Imo this is the main reason why electrification failed in the US.
In the end, just because EuRoPe HaS iT doesn’t mean it would work everywhere. YES it is proven, YES they have it, but do we look like Europe? Do we look like Russia? No, this is North America. The pursuit of non-overhead wire locomotives is mainly due to cheaper costs, because in the end, these are businesses, not government subsidiaries as they are in Europe.
:/
Not a fan already
Why not?
@zackbobby5550 They don’t have an electric motor or blades :(
Stick with diesels
@Skywarriorguru Do you have anything to back that up? 😆
I'm a conductor/engineer. I love me some good diesels as much as the next guy. Old EMD geeps that load quickly and start fast, hell yeah. I'll run those things all day. The fact of the matter is, though, progress isn't a bad thing. Yes even old diesels burn very clean compared to any kind of rubber wheeled vehicle, but again that doesn't mean we can't make progress. Hydrogen isn't gonna replace everything tomorrow. What's the problem with having motors around with a different fuel source?
@@SkywarriorguruDiesels on top. For real. And I say that as a German, in a country where more than 50% of the nowaday existing network is electric. And most private railways here are running Diesels too.
Since when is a locomotive a vehicle
I like that it's all reused loco parts