Why Dooku Didn't Respect Darth Maul & Double Bladed Lightsabers
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Count dooku is 100% the type of guy to call a lightsaber a “lightsabre”
So true
I always thought it WAS lightsabre........ have I been wrong all these 48 years?
@@kendaro9664 yes, it’s lightsabER. Unless ur count Dooku ofc
"I challenge you to a duel to the death with your lightsabre."
Is saber and sabre pronounced differently?
I think Dooku in CW was very well portrayed and he exuded both grace and precision in his combat style, his desire to dominate his opponents was evident and I would love to see more Makashi in SW media.
the only issue with him was his tall head
@@choxwatch forget the head his damn beard could cut glass
Agreed, Dooku was one of the biggest reasons Sidious succeeded in taking down the Jedi. Dooku did all the dirty work that needed to be done and he was the perfect distraction for the Jedi as Sidious furthered his plans in the shadows. For Sidious to give Dooku such a great responsibility and trust in his plans and execution of it, really shows how formidable Dooku really is. Without someone like Dooku, who could single handily stand on his own against some of the greatest Jedi ever and execute all of Sidious’ plans in the war with success, Sidious may have failed.
I have noticed that using two light sabers, give someone an advantage over someone who uses only one
@Naseem Weathers I'm not sure how accurate that is. Usually two lightsabers are portrayed as having less powerful attacks whereas a single blade in two hands is more powerful. Also Dooku was a master of dueling, I'm not sure someone using two blades would overwhelm him unless they were as skilled at duel wielding as he was at bladed combat.
Imagine Dooku's reaction if he saw Ezra's gunblade.
when I was younger, I watched historical fencing duels at my club which Involved using a rapier and a dagger at once. I think that this demonstrates how there can also be a lot of finesse in using multiple weapons because all of a sudden, having two weapons in-stead of one requires more co-ordination from the wielder in-order to be fully effective IMO. I also brought this up due to the fact that form 2 in star wars was based off of fencing, so I think Dooku should have realized this and not seen it as a cheap trick as much as a different fighting style.
In eskrima double stick is the first thing taught if the idea, for beginners, is to overwhelm the enemy with sloppy but greater attack rate with simultaneous attack and defence then it's a cheap trick. Ofcourse it's a different case with blades due to binds, edge alignment etc. lightsabers basically plasma sticks different with real blades.
There's a lot of nuance to that style of fencing that doesn't translate well to lightsabers. Maybe a beskar buckler would be better.
That 2nd dagger is a parrying dagger, its not typically used offensively, just for catching and manipulating the opponents blade. In function its used like a buckler, not an off hand blade.
As true in life. How a man fights is a glimpse to who he is. This proves dooku left the Jedi rather than was banished. Dooku still held honor and mercy above victory. He didn't intend to kill his opponents. This is another weakness palpatine wouldn't like.
So it appears maul and dooku each contained traits palpatine wanted in an apprentice but neither became complete.
sidious was afraid of dooku at one point, plagueis saw his value and wanted to make him their acolyte but if it was up to sidious he would have tried to have him killed. maul was raised by sidious so he had a lot of leeway but he kept being disobedient and the final straw was losing to a jedi. sidious values someone with potential, someone willing to use their emotions.
he basically wants to train somebody like maul or vader, a enforcer that can hunt and overwhelm multiple jedi.
@@Smoothalcoholic yes palpatine was a paranoid person.
Dooku is pretty slimy. I feel he upheld dueling etiquette and what not out of his own ego rather than actual honor or mercy. If push came to shove I have no doubt he would stab a person/opponent in the back. He undercut and betrayed people on a number of occasions, and Anakin was the only thing that stopped him from murdering Obi-Wan after he was basically done playing with his food.
Keep the Dooku content coming! Imo I feel he’s underrated
Big time!
Very much so! I would like to hear about some of his adventures as a knight, beyond Dooku Jedi Lost, which is fantastic in and of itself
Most underrated character in the prequels without a doubt
I second this! Dooku is my favorite sith. 😁
He definitely is
Curved hilt is a trick as well. Throws off angles for attack and defense.
It's funny how despite Dooku hate "cheap tricks". All of his apprentice or train by him use more than 1 blade.
Savage use double blade lightsaber
Ventress two curved hilt lightsabers
Grievous use 2-4 lightsabers
Ironic
lol no. that's not how sword fighting works
@@crushedscouter9522 it is how things would work. The curve of the hilt changes the angles with relation to the forearm. The angles of the Saber here are more like using a rapier vs. an arming sword.
@@WBElvis32 lol no. it is not how things work. you are wrong and its not up for debate. you know nothing about sword fighting. google pistol grip swords. there is zero trickery involved. you have no common sense. stop embarrassing yourself
@@crushedscouter9522 son, you are the one embarrassing yourself here. while I would not call it a cheap trick, the angle of the handle does change how the blade is used and how you need to respond to it.
So Qui-Gon used Ataru which utilizes "Ridiculous acrobatics", Komari Vosa and Ventris used twin blades and Savage used a Saberstaff. So Dooku doesn't exactly teach this philosophy.
Yes...
There can only be one....
Master dooku must've loved my master,
Is a shame he died.
And let’s not forget that he gives Ventress two light sabers so for someone who claims to hate people who wheeled to light sabers, he’s a bit of a hypocrite
Form 4 yes
MPOV: But I feel like Ahsoka Tano was the most graceful duel lightsaber user, as seen in the clone wars. Let’s remember she also used one lightsaber at first, but upgraded to two. Anakin did an incredible job in teaching Ahsoka how to hone her abilities with two lightsabers and not just one.
Well Filoni always gave her special treatment. :P
@@minicle426 Nothing wrong with that. A lot of creators do this.
Dooku is already my second favorite character. Whenever I see you post something about Dooku I get so excited!
mother talzin ur first
@@watsupdoc Palpatine
Sidious would view Dooku as an idiot for being strict and dogmatic in not relying in tricks.
Strictness in what he considers is the Law is the same trap the Jedi fell in. The trap of staleness.
Meanwhile the New Sith used everything in their plate in their favor to win, including not lifting a single blade at all.
Dooku: Two lightsabers at once, so sloppy!
Sidious uses two lightsabers to beat Maul and Savage
Dooku: Most excellent idea, sir!
sidious didn't need 2 lightsabers in that battle he only used both because he was tooling with them.sidious could have ended that battle when ever choose to but he was having fun embarrassing them
@@N8TheGreatG thats not what sidious said, he told vader that it was hard earned triumph in the lords of the sith novel
@@Smoothalcoholic Nah Sidious fanboys always think that he’s toying with someone for whatever reason. He was exhausted during that fight and had to bring out two blades because fighting those two is no easy task. If it was so easy he would’ve just sent Dooku but he went himself.
@@zachrobinson6801 True he would have sent Dooku and Grievous but honestly think they would have been outmatched, Dooku was probably better at using the force but Maul would break the old mans duelling hand then ask savage to torture him lol
@@SmoothalcoholicDooku solos.
Dooku: I don’t believe in using multiple lightsabers.
Sidious: *imma need a new apprentice
*takes a guy who also fights with one lightsaber*
@@theologe6076 😂👌
True but Anakin briefly used two against Dooku so I think that counts. Also Dooku trained Grievous, Obi Wan trained A and beat G🤔
@@LordWyatt ya, i just found it funny in the moment, like that bariss vs ani meme ^^
That's funny, because Dooku gets decapitated with dual blades.
The actor who played mal actually had pretty great footwork.
It was an impressive looking fight.
Ray parks
Dooku was wrong, and this is just another example of the arrogance that got him killed. "Cheap tricks" like double bladed lightsabers are identical to "cheap tricks" like a curved hilt. Besides, Maul never used two blades as a crutch anyway. We see in Clone Wars that he is fully capable using a single blade
I believe you are thinking of Cheap Trick, the band…
Entirely valid coming from Dooku, as this man was originally a Jedi many years before major conflicts occurred, so he would likely view a lightsaber as a tool to rely back upon rather than an aggressive front. Just look at the three forms used. Makashi (Form II) for Dooku, Soresu (Form III) for Obi-Wan, and Djem So (Form V) for Anakin.
Form II was the dueling form and was perfect for lightsaber or melee engagements. This means that whenever Dooku was in a fight with Obi-Wan or Anakin, both of them were truly at a disadvantage as this form was dedicated to outmaneuvering your opponent rather than brute forcing it. This represents the perfect balance of one's self in a way. He is defensive enough to avoid being taken down by Anakin's Form V, but aggressive enough to exploit the openings that Anakin leaves.
Form III is a generally defensive form; blocking blasters and fighting multiple opponents was the main strengths of Soresu, so Kenobi was better at overall defense, but he could likely never land a hit on Dooku. Kenobi was a defensive fighter and left himself as counterbalancing Anakin's offense. Dooku would have to focus on defending himself from two fronts to ensure he didn't lose his head, but he'd only really have one person he could truly get to.
Form V is where things get interesting. Anakin practiced Djem So whilst Ashoka practiced Shien style Form V. Both of these forms are aggressive forms and dedicated to different aspects of creating openings. Shien or dual wielding is much more effective in general combat situations whilst Djem So was better for melee engagements. Anakin was the offensive half to Obi-Wan's defense. Whilst Obi-Wan was protecting himself and attempting to throw Dooku off his game, Anakin was pushing and aggressive, attempting to create weaknesses to exploit.
So all in all, the strategy for both sides was to create a wall then exploit weakness. Anakin and Obi-Wan had each one acting as half of the whole, whilst Dooku acted as both sides of the same coin. They both sought to exploit weakness whilst on the defensive, Dooku just had the better styling for balanced lightsaber combat and that allowed for him to end in victories or at least draws every time.
Dooku vs Vader after he had become acclimated to his suit would be an interesting duel.
I actually agree with how he might've personality cared about dual blade welders however both of his apprentices welded multiple blades so I don't think he looked at his own Padawans as incompetent or unworthy.
All three of his apprenticed welled multiple blades. Ventress, Grievous, and Savage.
I don’t feel he is misguided. He’s just very passionate about dueling itself. Like a competition fencer 🤺 slipped through a wormhole into Star Wars. Dooku focused more on precision and technique, hence his curved hilt and form (Makashi). Maul was more concerned on brute strength, hence his dual blade and form (Juyo). Dooku just wanted to judge people.
He is a Count.
@@maccurtis730 you’re thinking of Sesame Street…
His curved hilt was also considered or disliked by yoda. Because it was a cheap trick seen by the jedi, due to the tracking being more difficult to access.
No, Savage was brute strength, Maul liked overwhelming his opponents with fast, aggressive and precise strikes with his Juyo and also mastered Niman, he also liked incorporating hand to hand combat with his dueling, like kicks and punches to vital areas.
It's funny and ironic that dooku believes someone to wield more than one lightsaber to be weak but yet he gladly got scissored by two
I don't think he was too glad about it.
I'd like to have seen Dooku and Sidious have a lightsabre dual....
What a battle that would have been...
I wonder what his reaction would have been to seeing darth sidious use two sabers to fight maul and his brother
If it was a duel alone with no force powers, it'd be a damn close fight I think 🤔 as Dooku almost fought Yoda to a draw and at least put up a decent fight against him
Dooku would be overwhelmed easily, unlike Yoda Sidious would've hesitate to abuse his force powers and he mastered every form, he'd destroy Dooku's Makashi.
@@thealmightypancakeface9585 lol dooku is on par with windu. mace handled sidious. you're arrogance is your weakness
@@crushedscouter9522 No he isn't, he was probably better when he was in the Jedi Order when Mace wasn't as strong, but during the clone wars no. Truth isn't arrogance, Mace beat Sidious, and Sidious would stomp mud holes in Dooku's Makashi.
The irony: Dooku thought dual lightsabers was a "cheap trick", yet his own apprentice always used two (Ventris). ALSO he used a curved lightsaber, something many Jedi considered a "cheap trick", because it made it much more difficult to track the path of his lightsaber blade in combat. Hypocrisy, thy name is Count Dooku.
It also goes to note, that Vent's light sabers were given to her, by dooku, to begin with. She didn't know how to make curved hilt designs, until he taught her.
lol no. a curved hilt has zero effect on ones ability to "track the path" of a blade. google pistol grip sword, the real world equivalent to a curved hilt lightsaber. there is nothing cheap or tricky about it
Plus he uses force lightning and the force to fight so clearly just his one lightsaber and skills arent enough
@@jsmith7114 the dark side uses the Skills in the force while lightsaber combat
If anything, Maul drew tactics from Exar Kun. Which served him well. One which Dooku overlooks highly.
I have to disagree with Count Dooku here. Using any type of weapon requires skill and dedication to learning to use it. As a martial artist myself, I've trained with sword, staff, and other weapons. The sword is my preferred weapon and I have practiced with both one and two weapons. If I were a jedi though, I think I would carry two lightsabers, but typically focus on one and only occasionally use two if I felt I needed to catch an enemy off guard or I was at a disadvantage. That maybe a cheap trick as Dooku says, but in war and survival anything goes. I prefer honor, but am willing to bend the rules when I deem it necessary.
True
I also have trained over 30yrs in hand and hand combat and weapons. although a sword is one of the most interesting and fun to train with i wouldn't prefer it as the odds of having or using sword in a fight situation.im sure that's not what you was meaning,I'm just adding the everyday things that surround us like sticks, broom broken in half ,bats stuff like that are best and training with the staff,swords, rattan sticks,escrima,escrow, makes the use of them everyday things really bad for an attacker
Dooku is a snobby elitist asshole, and I honestly wouldn't have it any other way because I feel like this side material makes him more of a unique villain than the Clone Wars show did
@@snapyourfingerssnapyournec6503 Well I have swords at home.
I share the same sentiment as Revan.
"Honor is a fool's prize. Glory is of no use to the dead."
I think Dooku vs Maul would be an excellent duel to watch. I'd like to see Dooku prove that dual blade wielders are inferior to single blade users. I think both are skilled combatants, and I would not want to face them in lightsaber combat.
loving the dooku stuff, keep it up
And yet he gave a double bladed saber to Savage and a two joining sabers to Ventress
It's because he wanted to signify his superiority and greater power over them. By giving them the 'advantage'.
He didn't respect them, that's why he gave them more than one blade.
He complemented Savage all the time & even told Savage that, "Under my tutelage, your skills will rival even the great Darth Maul himself."
@@Necroscat yeah but you have to consider their 'relationship'. Savage was Dooku's apprentice; and Dooku believed himself clearly superior to Maul. Telling Savage he could be so powerful was a way of giving Savage what he wanted, in the same way Palpatine did to Dooku by letting him lead the Seperatists and help his home world. He also tortured Savage for every mistake, and let him know exactly who was in charge.
I think it was more of a manipulating Savage into becoming the apprentice he wanted, more than Dooku being genuinely impressed with his potential, than Savage's skill.
"Dooku thought that people who used more than one lightsaber were cowards"
Meanwhile Dooku: Trains Grievous and Ventress, both using 2 or more lightsabers
Dooku is partly wrong on this one, using a double bladed light saber can be a useful if not a bit underhanded. Where Dooku is right is that it does show weakness on that person's ability in light saber combat without using underhanded tactics and their lack of skill when dealing with a superior opponent.
You'd fall into the same trap he did just because someone uses a different weapon style doesn't mean it's weakness or underhanded it's how they trained with it dooku took it to far with underestimating fighters he fought that didn't just use a regular lightsaber and it bite him in the rear at the end which with how powerful and intelligent he is he should have known better than to let his pride get in the way along with the fact that duel wielders and double blade sabers were very common in the Jedi order of the old republic when blade to blade combat was pretty common so him saying that they need to return to just single blades like in the past is well stupid he's a good fighter but and also a bad fighter at the same time
I'd say the double blade saber is harder to use than a single blade in that you've gotta keep in mind *where* the 2nd blade is at all times, so you don't slice your own head or a limb off...
Honestly Dooku's critiques of the Double Bladed Lightsaber should have been more into the technical aspects of it than 'hurr durr two blades are dumb and cowardly'. Dooku seems like the sort of person who would see that the DBL is a powerful weapon but also see it as too dangerous to the user itself. He could have even cited that the only person who actually wielded the DBL to its fullest potential was Exar Kun due to Kun's extremely powerful and precise Force potential which allowed him to control the length of each blade, thus robbing the DBL of its weakness where most of its strikes and blocks would be at half power. Kun could strike or block with full power via the control of the size of each of the blades which Maul (or Bastila or the Inquisitors) lack the capability to do so.
The hilt was what made Exar Kun's weapon unique
It wasn't double bladed. Maul actually had to individual sabers that could come apart.
Yeah exactly like how Dooku being racist seems unlike him, very much so
@@treiwilson9445 ok that makes me wonder if they drew inspiration for cal kestis split sabers off of Exar Kun
Maul doesn't need Dooku's respect. Maul outlived him, became Mandolore, AND the head of Crimson Dawn. Maul don't need the respect of ANY Sith Lords after that.
Count Dooku was a man of focus, commitment and sheer will.
Maul and Grevous were trained to be super effective killing machines and nothing more really, so I don’t think it fair for Dooku to judge them as refined duelists.
Maul mastered Niman, Juyo and possibly Ataru, and knew the basics of all forms, and is listed 3 in the top 5 red lightsaber wielders, he is a refined duelist, and was of great value unlike Grevious.
Dooku: I’m the greatest duelist of this age!
Quinlan Vos: Hold my beer!
Definitely in Dookus camp! Relying on trickery or saber variants only limits your growth as a duelist. You become reliant on them rather then your own talent and strength. Makashi would definitely be my saber form of choice!
The irony: Dooku thought dual lightsabers was a "cheap trick", yet his own apprentice always used two (Ventris). ALSO he used a curved lightsaber, something many Jedi considered a "cheap trick", because it made it much more difficult to track the path of his lightsaber blade in combat. Hypocrisy, thy name is Count Dooku.
But what about 2 opponents 2 on 1 not 1 on 1
Maul was trained as a sith for real, ready to fight the jedi as they are a group and he is but one. meaning he would most likely be facing more than 1 opponent (a master & a Padawan).
I do see his point but in the real world arguably the greatest swordsman who ever lived Miyamoto Musashi used a long and short sword together. The enemies he faced more often than not were using just a single katana, he would use a Katana with his dominant hand and the shorter Wakizashi in the other. He created this style ( Niten ichi Ryu-two swords under heaven) and was able to engage and defeat dozens of enemies at once. He took on legendary swordsman that were known throughout all of Japan and some of them where revered as far as China and Korea. He would often use this to sword style to off-balance and confuse an opponent.
He would also often beat masters with a single sword as well.
So if it worked for someone in real life… Just saying
lol no. he was fighting nobodies with no skill and no common sense. the japanese didn't even use shields, the most common war accessory in the world after the spear.
@@crushedscouter9522 i’m sorry to disappoint but he was actually fighting veterans of war at this point he started dueling individuals after the warring states period. Then there were several battles including the Christian rebellion at that point of time so these were battle hardened killers. Also as for your comment about shields they did use shields actually they were called tidate and jidate.
@@crushedscouter9522 also several of his opponents are notable and worthy of research and their own right such as Musō Gonnosuke
However here is a link to talking about the misconception of shields in Japanese warfare it’s a common misconception I also believed that before I started studying Asian battle tactics in college. Hope this helps
gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2017/12/tate-tedate-japanese-shields.html?m=1
@@redbatsamuraiproductions lol using the exception to say "see? they did use shields!" is embarrassing. the japanese didn't use shields. they were battle hardened warriors within japan. where they were hardened by other japanese who couldn't fight. being the best of garbage is still garbage. sorry to ruin your weird fetish for the japanese, bud. they get smoked by basically any other people of the time. not understanding the importance of the shield demonstrates a complete lack of combat instinct and prowess.
@@crushedscouter9522 Wow calling entire culture garbage is well… Small minded to say the least, every warrior culture that has ever existed has been smoked by another one or multiple you name it they’ve been defeated… I don’t fetishize them I simply love Asian martial arts and battle tactics whether it’s Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, ottoman you name it. I was just trying to give you an article just to change perspective I do not mean any hostile intentions between you or myself and I apologize if I came across that way, however I do not believe that gives anybody the right to call an entire culture garbage, it’s unnecessary. Can we just agree that every culture has its flaws and drawbacks? We came here just to talk about about light sabers.
And to counter your point there are multiple sources from people outside of Japan from other warrior cultures such as those of Europe spell quite highly of the Japanese warrior prowess I’m not trying to counter your argument I’m just saying that we can go back-and-forth like this all day or all night and it’s not necessary, I’m not saying samurai were perfect not by a long shot, there’s no such thing as a perfect warrior culture.
Strong words from someone who intentionally has an angled blade to throw his opponents off balance.
from Dooku's musing in Labyrinth of Evil, while watching Grievous wield 3 blades in training against his magnaguards - "What was to become of elegance and gallantry if a duellist couldn't make do with one blade? Well, what had become of elegance and gallantry in any case?"
I love that Vader carried on the belief that one blade is all you need. When he was fighting one of Cylo’s cybernetic servants named Carbon, who was a ripoff of General Grievous both in build and using 4 lightsabers, he defeated him and quoted “When you wield the power of the dark side, one lightsaber is all you need”. Vader really did learn and adapt to some of Dooku’s knowledge in his career as a Sith Lord
But Vader Still dreamed of Two Blades when in a force meditation he saw himself as a dual wielder
It does make me think about how powerful he'd be in a duel if he included tricks and 2 lightsabers.
I'm with Dooku and Kenobi on this "...a more civilized weapon for a more civilized time." Sword play, weather it be steel blades or light sabers, should have for form of dignity and grace. Look at many of the historic mono e mono duels, there were rules of etiquette that were followed least you were to be classified barbaric and forfeited your honor.
Obiwan was speaking in a general sense however. As we see nowhere in his character throughout the rest of the universe, legends or new Canon, that he looked down upon the use of two sabers or double bladed lightsabers. He was a highly skilled and refined single blade dualist in his own right and is the reason that in the long run he could hold his own against Dooku. As by the time he reached the level of master he was considered to be in a similar skill range as Windu. All forms that the Jedi taught, be it single, double or dual bladed, were trained with fluid motion and that 'dance' like structure that Dukoo so sought and saw other forms of saber to be heavily lacking. All well trained jedi should fight with a fluidity and grace, which we see drop off during the clone wars as even Padawans later in their training were rushed through blade to blade combat training. Not that it dropped quality in all places, but still.
In old Legends material Maul was considered the best unarmed combatant even without using the force to augment himself while his physical abilities were high tier in most spots. His weapon choice was effective against most oppenents and his force abilities while no joke either still needed much more finesse, practice, and refinery and also lacked the mastery, knowledge, potential, and education that Yoda, Dooku, Mace, Plo Koon, Sidious, Plo Koon, The Skywalkers, And The Mereks had yeah.
Dooku is the best style, love seeing him vs Yoda!
I don’t mean to be that guy, but doesn’t Dooku regularly use Dun Möch in his duels? That doesn’t seem fair if the other doesn’t have access to that ability. Just my thoughts
He regulary used Makashi I think
I would love to see more Qui-Gon Jinn videos as well he's underrated too
Dooku had a point (pun intended).. but war is war and all is fair in love and war .... so to speak.... I would've loved to spar with someone so refined with a blade
Fitting that he was decapitated by two sabers
Ngl I was so mesmerized by the lightsaber battles happening in this video
I mostly agree with Dooku except for the using multiple sabers is a trick as that style when used appropriately use a fantastic style and requires more coordination than just using one blade. For example I would like to create a variation by using a reverse grip, Shoto with a curved saber as my main. Specifically the Jedi dooku neo pixel and hopefully have my savi’s refurbished in a similar style.
It is ironic that all his disciplines used special weapons if he hated it. Ventress (and before her, his original padawan Komari Vosa in legends) used two, Grievous used four, and for some reason, he started to train Savage Opress with a saberstaff too. Then I really don't get what is his problem, he chose to give these weapons to his apprentices, so of course they are using them.
While Dooku obviously had a personal hatred toward Maul for killing Qui-gon (something he would never tell anyone after his fall), I think he is right about Maul. He is extremely aggressive, and his form and style makes him rather impatient, which is blinding him. He did not have the patience to safely finish off Obi-wan after he pushed him off, he did not have the patience to slowly overwhelm him with the help of Savage Opress when they cornered him, and he did not have the patience at the end to approach his duel with Obi-wan intelligently. Both him and Grievous have this need to rush a fight, which is a good thing if you can actually pull it off, but they leave themselves more open when the fight is not won quickly. At the end, they always forget to defend themselves properly. I don't think he is considering these weapons as cheating, he merely think that by choosing specialized weapons, these combatants restrict themselves. Objectively speaking, two lightsabers should be stronger than one, a saberstaff is more versitile, and the inquisitor lightsaber is probably the strongest lightsaber type in canon, but if someone relies on a weapon instead of mastering it, it may stunt the combatant's growth. You don't have to be good against most opponents if you have four rotating arms with lightsabers, most foes will be toast before the tenth second of the fight.
Yeah but like, Darth maul's double bladed style beat Quigon, who Dooku had a lot of respect for. So...
lol he then got cut in half by a human teenager soooo.... a being with super strength beating an old man doesn't prove anything. dooku had respect for qui gon because he was his apprentice.
@@crushedscouter9522 Obi Wan was older than Maul and close to knighthood, yet he was still outclassed throughout the whole fight. Qui Gon wasn't just an "old man" either he was of the strongest jedi in the order.
The Japanese say their style is best. The Koreans say their style is best. I say a punch in the face is a punch in the face - Bruce Lee
I think Count dooku should be on Disney plus by now he,s a very terrifying villain that could get more spotlight🦹🦹.
This is more of the same from Dooku, that elitist arrogance is largely what got him killed. Dooku can't help but demean those around him because he is convinced of his own supremacy. A flaw, that would spell his doom at the hands of Anakin Skywalker. This was foreshadowed in Attack of the Clones.
Obi Wan: His skills have made him well...arrogant.
Yoda: Hmm, a flaw more and more commong among Jedi. Even the older, more experienced ones.
We need a young Dooku and Qui-Gon show.
Dooku personified class and swagger.
Dooku: "My bend saber is better I bent my saber like a badass".
Dooku was a slave to form. He may be the best in his form, but he was still saddled with the weaknesses of that form (in his case, he can't deal with power strikes). I say, I a fight to the death, do whatever keeps you alive and your opponents dead.
I like Dooku's style especially with the curved hilt. But Mall using a double bladed saber is also interesting and definitely lethal.
This is what my biggest problem is or one of at least with the sequels, no light saber forms.
Also I thought form 7 was called Va Pad not Ju Ya? or has that changed in canon?
VA pad is specific to one character in Canon
It's both, but with one caveat: Vaapad was Master Windu's creation. He was the only practioner of Vaapad, as far as I know. Anyone else that used Form VII, it was Juyo.
@@stanleywilliams1605 ah thanks for clarifying that. :)
There is 2 variations to form 7.
Vaapad and juyo,
vaapad is essentially the light side version of form 7. You take advantage of the enemy's rage.
(Only mace windu uses vapaad)
Juyo is used by the sith and is the most aggressive form.
When you're playing a fighting game with your little cousin, does it matter more that you've learned all the button combos for your main character? Or that they just beat you spamming one button?
He hated it so much yet he trained multiple people who used more than one blade
Dooku was right for the most part but wrong in a few situations.
1. If your surrounded by multiple duelists your gonna need another lightsaber or a dual saber to defend yourself cuz the number of opponents your facing will easily get the upper hand on you with a single blade unless your power in the force and lightsaber is exponentially better than the opponents combined, more than one saber and/or a dual lightsaber is something you’ll need.
2. The SITH don’t play fair. They want power and will kill their opponents by any means necessary to get it, including cheap tricks
So count dooku was basically the Karen of lightsaber dueling
I can see both sides of dooku's beliefs but I feel whatever helps you compensate your flaws and can help you win is what's best for you.
Dooku is like the Filipo Inzaghi of Star Wars. Underrated.
Video request why did Anakin try to kill obi wan with the same move Kenobi use on maul
Count dooku seems like a great sowrdsman in Star war fights he use that Curved Lightsaber like a real fancy fighter⚔⚔.
Darth Maul definitely didn’t respect Count Dooku regardless of dookus saber😂
It would have been funny then for Dooku to say as he's getting his head chopped off by Anakin : " YOU NEEDED TWO SABERS TO CUT MY HEAD OFF."
"Oh you like using two hands for two light sabers do you? Watch this." If he really cut Anakin's arm off because of that that'd be hilariously salty.
I’m assuming his opinion regarding Palpatine’s use of two lightsabers on occasion along with his tactics (if he was even aware of them) and how he deemed it weak, never made it to Palpatine’s desk. Or perhaps it did and that’s one of the reasons “do it” happened. Ironic given Anakin used two lightsabers (one being Dookus) to behead him I think.
Dooku seing Lumiya's lightwihip and kylo Ren's lightsaber : 😠
To quote Viral "...surprise attacks need more than suprise. It won't work again." The problems with using tricks are that they rarely work in all honesty, but even the ones that work don't work over and over. If I were to assess Dooku's interpretation I would say that rather than condemn their form I would condemn their dependence upon that form, and the use of multiple blades and tricks was essentially an admission to their opponents as well as themselves that they were incapable of progressing any further in their form sufficiently enough to counter their opponent's skill in their form(s) and an inability to learn more than one form. That being said, while neither Maul nor Grievous were ever true Sith, such insistence, force, and aggression certainly would have been very fitting of dark siders... However, once again we see that Dooku was never a full blown Sith and in fact was always a little too much a Jedi to ever be a true Sith. His dedication to a dual style allowed growth beyond what most forms would have likely offered. And between these two points his assessment would seem to have quite a bit of truth from his perspective. From mine, anyone practicing a combative art should know that if the goal is not victory then it cannot be called a martial art. That being said Dooku was great for his ability to see victory can come in many forms, and was always calculating and quick to turn any victory of the Jedi into a defeat as a result of this. Overall, I think Dooku had the right idea even though I'd say I believe his ego got the best of him far too often.
I have a random question/theory.
Since sidious has two light sabers, how did he end up with them? Did he make them both, or did he have one, before ultimately killing plagus in his sleep? Keeping his old masters saber as a kind of keepsake and trophy for defeating his old master?
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Out of curiosity what happened to Darth Maul lower body and Anakin's hand (as well his arms AND legs from his duel with Obiwan Kenobi) and Dooku's hands and Mace Windu s hand ? Were there clones made of them?
Am i the only one who feels so.. utterly heartbroken for all these star wars Characters, villains or not? Yeah some of them made bad choices and committed horribly atrocious acts, but.. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE... Had suffered immensely in some form or another.. and most still suffered after they fell to the dark side... It breaks my heart 🥺💔
Dooku had his way of lightsaber fighting yes. But the Double Bladed lightsaber had it's Forum to. Exar Kun was a skilled Jedi and Sith and had a Double Bladed Lightsaber forum and it was one handed Double Bladed as well. Everyone has there ways but if Dooku fought Exar Kun with his forum he would have put Dooku in his place just with one hand. Everyone had there forums to master and yes some is better then others. It's what forum flows through you and drives you.
I agree with Dooku, but for a different reason. Makashi is a lightsaber form that aligns with the Light and focuses on precision over power; Juyo and Djem So, by contrast, delve too close to the Dark Side because they focus primarily on power for oneself and killing the opponent through that power.
This also suggests that boundaries should be set for Tra'kata. Specifically, deactivating the lightsaber should mostly be reserved for in a lock to make the Darksider stumble; the move to deactivate then reactivate mid-swing should be reserved for if the Darksider has refused redemption or is utilizing the Force to threaten an innocent during a duel.
He referred to him as a "Great Sith Lord" there must have been some respect or acknowledgement.
Palpatine actually saw maul as a genuine loss
@@jakealter5504 yes indeedy
Was that in Season 3 when training Savage?
@@ProGamingTVGamer yeah
Anakin Skywalker be like: "Give a f**k old man, I beat you with two light sabers, and now I'll take your head with two also!"
Double bladed lightsabers are very cool i wanted one as kid but i had one Blue and Red swords instead🗡🗡.
Dooku: Using 2 lightsabers is a cheap trick because you can't win with 1
Also Dooku: Uses force lightning because...he can't win with his 1 lightsaber?
What's that if not a cheap trick then? What a hypocrite!
In life wen u focus on only one thing...even as simple.as sword duels
..u forget the things important to you that brought you there
Dooku has no business talking against double lightsaber wielders when his head was cut off by 2 lightsabers 😂
Assad ventress trained under Dooku and dual willed two curved Lifesavers. What would have been his take on her seeing as he took her in as his apprentice
I think every lightsaber has its advantages and disadvantages so does a lightsaber form but I also believe it’s the force wielder using that weapon as well
a win is a win in anyones book. Maul is Still my personal favorite Sith and he was the first to show up with the double ended saber. pretty badass.
agreed. but i got one point that doesnt agree. usage of double bladed sabre is compared to a dance many times right. requiaring great footwork and awerness.
What this really points out is that Sith are not monolithic. Just like real-world sword wielders, each gravitates toward a style that accommodates their own strengths and weaknesses... :)
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May the force be with you all! Always…
Dooku is a sip of tea from a pink china cup 🍵. Maul is a shot of WHISKEY 🥃 👊💪👊
I agree with Dooku(and Vader) when it comes to canon Grevious and cheap parlor tricks/gimmicks. I 100% disagree with his thoughts on Darth Maul & double bladed lightsabers. Darth Maul, Aasajj Ventress, Darth Sideous, Ashoka Tano, & Obi-Wan Kenobi are all skilled with more than one blade in their respective forms. While Dooku was a master fencer, Maul was an extraordinary martial artist. Both deserve respect.
The Dooks is such an sigma chad
i somewhat agree with dooku on the account of blade to blade combat its not the matter to batter your enemy into surrender but to dominate the duel and dismantle your opponent piece by piece and force your adversary into surrender the double-bladed lightsaber is not practical for use as combat weapon there are too many disadvantage to the weapon i can't see any effective defenses a double- bladed lightsaber has when it comes to facing & fighting a opponent armed with a dual-phase single bladed lightsaber
Like most Jedi, I would start out with a regular single-bladed lightsaber. And as I gain more combat experience and grow into adulthood, I would overtime transition to using two lightsabers, then adapting to a double-bladed, and then finally upgrade to utilizing a lightsaber sword & dagger combination like Ahsoka. I don't actually mind if Darth Tyranus didn't care for Maul's double-bladed lightsaber. Everyone has their own opinion on what works best for them. Overall, transitioning to different variants of lightsabers would be beneficial. Because if I was to keep using a regular lightsaber, my opponents are eventually going to figure out my combat style, and ultimately making me out be overly predictable.
this video is a masterpiece in saying the same thing 16 times in a row... trying to hit the word count in an english essay type beat
The only thing that confuses me is when he said at 5:38 "and thats why Obi Wan was able to triumph against him". Is he referring to just the single duels they had or the final fight. Because when Obi killed Grievous Dooku was already killed by Anakin so he wouldnt even know how that unfolded