** Update regarding turning off the HR sensor: there’s an ECO mode in the app settings to do this. I’ll update this comment with battery life results after a bit of testing. Thanks!
I'm glad I found a reviewer that actually lifts weights when testing earbuds. It's hard to gauge sport headphones when reviewers only run, I primarily lift, and I'm stoked that the heart rate monitor works well while lifting weights.
Maybe you can agree with me, but there’s still a fit test they all fail to account for when lifting: the clench test (patent pending). When I lift heavy and clench/grit my teeth, it expands the ear canal and a TON of earbuds fall out. Or shift and with anc that completely revokes the properties and you have to readjust to get a seal again. I wish more didn’t just shake but actually grit their teeth like they’re actually straining
I absolutely agree. Most reviewers will just shake their hands and say they have a great fit, but the second I'm laying on a bench and push heavy weight and clinch my teeth my ear buds roll across the gym. That's why I've never trusted any buds without wings. And also why I've owned dozens upon dozens of earbuds that never get used. @@seanlinehan1136
@@seanlinehan1136 this was my main gripe with B2Ps. Tried 200 tips, found ones that were better fit than anything else but STILL was always adjusting them on the gym the entire time. Mainly when benching, as soon as I laid on the bench, ANC instantly "off" and can hear the obnoxious loud music instantly because they just start popping out... Or if you sweat, also pop out. I still don't know which buds to get now.
Unlike others here I don’t necessarily have a problem with the price because decent wireless earbuds can cost $200 and a good heart rate sensor can cost around $100 and maybe there’s some convenience having it all in one device. The problem though is the cadence lock you mention. It should be a solved problem in 2024. I used to get it a lot from chest bands so now use an upper arm strap instead which works great (for me). As a runner I see cadence lock as a massive fail
Your channel is impressive, thank you for the effort you put into each video, I hope one day you could try the New (January 2024) Casio G-Shock GPR-H1000.
Thanks. Great review! I love Sennheiser headphones, but if the heat rate and temperature measures are only available for Polar products, I don't think I can buy these. It's not that I really want them - I use a heart rate monitor that I'm guessing would be more accurate - but I don't want to pay for features I can't use. It seems like bad marketing to charge us non-Polar peeps the total amount for a product with features unavailable to us.
He literally says they’re the best sounding he’s ever had for sports buds. Even if he hasn’t tried the Jabra 8, he’s tried other jabra and the sound profiles from one gen to the next aren’t much different if at all. Plus, jabra isn’t known for sound quality
The 8 Actives are more comfortable but also much less secure. I've had an earbud fall out on a few occasions with those where that's not an issue with the Sennheisers. Sound quality, while good on the Jabras is much better on the Sennheisers. I don't think you'd be disappointed in the 8 Actives by any means but comparing them side by side, the Sennheisers are noticeably better. ANC is about the same but may be slightly better on the Elite 8s due to the Sennheisers semi-open design however the Sennheisers do a much better job with wind especially with the anti-wind mode. I don't find Jabras to handle wind noise well.
Got Em. So far so. I would just like to turn off the temperature in heart rate sensors without having to turn off the high quality sound using eco mode. I did have to download a third party EQ app to get better sound. I love the option to tap on my cheek. The downside is that it's activated when I'm chewing a crispy apple😂. I love the product but I haven't decided to keep it or return it yet. $330 is a little steep
I would buy these over the normal momentum specially for the fit. I HATE my mtws3. I just don't like to think that I'll be paying extra money fir the heart rate thing which is useless.
I just wish they had a version without the temp and heartbeat sensors... For like 150-200€ less. They might be the in ears I'm looking for, but they are really expensive...
My favourite element of these earbuds, at least for me personally, is the clog-resistant ear tips. Maybe it's possible for me to purchase some for my Elite 8 Active.
I’ve tried all kinds of earbuds with ear tips of all sizes and with fins as well as hooks. Absolutely none of them stay on long enough once I start sweating. Only Shokz works for me. The sound quality is not as good as some of the others but at least I don’t have to put up with the irritation of them falling off from time to time leaving me to keep fiddling with them for the rest of my run.
Very interesting review. I was also shocked about how poorly the Polar Vantage V3 wrist-sensor records heart rate, when looking at your charts. It is completely off a lot of the time?
Is it possible to broadcast the heartbeat and temperature to a Garmin Edge for example? I am using a CORE Bodytempsensor, but this would be sometimes more comfortable to use.
They would have been a great pick without the heart rate sensor and temparature measure at 150 - 200 bucks. Senseless expensive feature hardly anybody is using, consuming battery and prone to break/repair. I dont know what kind of people making such decisions at Sennheiser or better their new parent Company the Swiss hear aid manufactorer Sonova. However, if they dont sell they will decrease the price soon.
there is about a hundred alternatives that offer just what you want. what kind of people decide to make a product that's already on the market in numerous versions? You could ask your question about the apple watch, and guess what, it has been selling like hot cake since it first came out. And each year everyone is on their heels hoping apple adds more features and more sensors.
@@maxmeier532 but the Apple watch hold actual value after all. Containing features which are useful and the product makes sense - this is nnovative. Who wants to monitor their heart rate on the watch and in parallel over the earbuds?? who does not have a smartwatch with sport functions but is doing sports. What is the used case, the benefit?? Nobody knows what to do with the temperature measure at all, is it the body or the skin temperature anyway?? when iam going on a run i must pull out my smartphone to check on the sennheiser music app my temperature because like the vast majority of sports people i am not using polar devices but Garmin and Apple. I like Sennheiser for their sound and supporting the company since years owning several products, thats why i am interested in these product, but I think this earbuds will be a tuff sale. I hope for the company I am wrong and millions of Peloton bike enthusiats will flock out to buy the earbuds for 329,- bucks in order to get rid of their expensive smartwatches and monitor their heart rate and body temperature over their earbuds on their bike displays. By the way, Bose already introduced a heartrate sensor in their first version of sport earbuds without success, maybe now the time has come?
@@maxmeier532 Beats Fit Pro for instance sell because they implemented functions and design features which work and got a benefit to people. To try to sell earbuds for 329,- with a heart rate and temperature sensor is nothing of a benefit while literally everybody has got a sportwatch with much better sensors anyway. I dont know anybody who is interested to pay 329,- for a sport earbud which is anyway prone to break because of rain, dirt and sweat and I have not noticed these sell like hotcakes right now.
Great video! As a G-Shock enthusiast I think it would be incredible for an expert like you to test the GPR-H1000 and give us your point of view, is it on par with the Garmin or is it far behind? Thanks and regards.
I have the Edifier neobuds pro that also work with a beanie and gloves on. Plus water and sweat resistant. Good ANC and amazing bass. Can you test the Neobuds pro 2 for workouts?
can you set alarms for min/max values of the heart rate or temperature and how can you control notifications of the alerts? i.e., can you have them forwarded to other devices?
That capacity panel tech looks amazing but what about buttons ? Jabra seems to be the only brand to keep up with this old reliable tech called buttons People like buttons because it's rain/beanie/gloves/sweaty hands proof
"connect to grit x2, V3 as well as other Polar watches" - where did you get that info? V2, grit x pro1 also? I hear this for second time and no one can tell if its true.
How are these compared to the Jabra Elite 8 Actives? Because, I think those are by far the best sport earbuds I've ever used, and I've used a TON. I'm on the fence about the Sennheisers. I can get them on a big discount right now, but I dunno. I've already got two Jabra Elite 8 Actives. edit: NVM, that cadence lock is a deal breaker. I didn't realize these were optical. Sticking with my Jabras and chest strap
Bluetooth 5.2, low ip rating for over 300€ isn’t convincing, neither are touch controls for sports usage, where I prefer physical buttons every day the week. They have to make compromises like disabling single touch and never lose options on commands. The heart rate transmitting feature to my Garmin for example during kettlebell workouts, where the watch is in the way, is neat.
This must be a lot on the health side considering that the peak endurance threes from JBL are almost as good as these but way less. Sensenheiser has elite media and music though.
Too expensive for what you get. I don’t know how many times I lost earbuds when I tried to wipe off sweat…on the treadmill. I never use them outdoors during sports activities especially biking. But to each his own!
Excellent earbuds in sound quality, but I don't like ear tips design, tips should be more rounded and not so sharp edges, even smaller ones irritate my ears and without ear tips earbuds are dropping too easily.
** Update regarding turning off the HR sensor: there’s an ECO mode in the app settings to do this. I’ll update this comment with battery life results after a bit of testing. Thanks!
Thanks so much for putting these to the test -- literally! 🚴🏋🏃We'll pass your feedback along, especially your HR running test results.
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Fair play 🔥❤
I'm glad I found a reviewer that actually lifts weights when testing earbuds. It's hard to gauge sport headphones when reviewers only run, I primarily lift, and I'm stoked that the heart rate monitor works well while lifting weights.
Happy to help!
Maybe you can agree with me, but there’s still a fit test they all fail to account for when lifting: the clench test (patent pending). When I lift heavy and clench/grit my teeth, it expands the ear canal and a TON of earbuds fall out. Or shift and with anc that completely revokes the properties and you have to readjust to get a seal again. I wish more didn’t just shake but actually grit their teeth like they’re actually straining
I absolutely agree. Most reviewers will just shake their hands and say they have a great fit, but the second I'm laying on a bench and push heavy weight and clinch my teeth my ear buds roll across the gym. That's why I've never trusted any buds without wings. And also why I've owned dozens upon dozens of earbuds that never get used. @@seanlinehan1136
@@seanlinehan1136 this was my main gripe with B2Ps. Tried 200 tips, found ones that were better fit than anything else but STILL was always adjusting them on the gym the entire time. Mainly when benching, as soon as I laid on the bench, ANC instantly "off" and can hear the obnoxious loud music instantly because they just start popping out... Or if you sweat, also pop out. I still don't know which buds to get now.
@@seanlinehan1136 Same issue. I use ear tips to solve it for my Air Pods Pro and Galaxy Buds
So glad to see this review. Thanks!
Sure thing!
I just ordered the graphite. I have been waiting for this. Great sound and directed towards sport use.
Unlike others here I don’t necessarily have a problem with the price because decent wireless earbuds can cost $200 and a good heart rate sensor can cost around $100 and maybe there’s some convenience having it all in one device. The problem though is the cadence lock you mention. It should be a solved problem in 2024. I used to get it a lot from chest bands so now use an upper arm strap instead which works great (for me). As a runner I see cadence lock as a massive fail
Did my favourute sport tech reviewes mentioned my favourite band (DMB)? Wow! Thanks for making my day, Des!
Sure thing!
Great video Des!
Thanks!
thank you for this detailed review, I've chosen this buds thanks to you.
Your channel is impressive, thank you for the effort you put into each video, I hope one day you could try the New (January 2024) Casio G-Shock GPR-H1000.
Thanks. Great review! I love Sennheiser headphones, but if the heat rate and temperature measures are only available for Polar products, I don't think I can buy these. It's not that I really want them - I use a heart rate monitor that I'm guessing would be more accurate - but I don't want to pay for features I can't use. It seems like bad marketing to charge us non-Polar peeps the total amount for a product with features unavailable to us.
How do they compare to the jabra 8 active? Comfort/fit, sound quality and anc.
I’m wanting to know too
Yeah, the Elite 8 Actives are by far the best sport buds I've ever used, and I've used a ton. Interested to know as well.
He literally says they’re the best sounding he’s ever had for sports buds. Even if he hasn’t tried the Jabra 8, he’s tried other jabra and the sound profiles from one gen to the next aren’t much different if at all. Plus, jabra isn’t known for sound quality
The 8 Actives are more comfortable but also much less secure. I've had an earbud fall out on a few occasions with those where that's not an issue with the Sennheisers. Sound quality, while good on the Jabras is much better on the Sennheisers. I don't think you'd be disappointed in the 8 Actives by any means but comparing them side by side, the Sennheisers are noticeably better. ANC is about the same but may be slightly better on the Elite 8s due to the Sennheisers semi-open design however the Sennheisers do a much better job with wind especially with the anti-wind mode. I don't find Jabras to handle wind noise well.
Yeah , I've just seen these at JB Hi-Fi for $550 Aussie. I'm gonna get them tomorrow after watching this video. Top stuff mate 👍
Why are you bragging about paying double the already overpriced retail price?
Got Em. So far so. I would just like to turn off the temperature in heart rate sensors without having to turn off the high quality sound using eco mode. I did have to download a third party EQ app to get better sound. I love the option to tap on my cheek. The downside is that it's activated when I'm chewing a crispy apple😂. I love the product but I haven't decided to keep it or return it yet. $330 is a little steep
Now that’s cool, and a great headphone brand too
Your arm tattoo is really cool.
I would buy these over the normal momentum specially for the fit. I HATE my mtws3. I just don't like to think that I'll be paying extra money fir the heart rate thing which is useless.
How is the sound quality and loudness compared to the old Bose sport earbuds?
I just wish they had a version without the temp and heartbeat sensors... For like 150-200€ less. They might be the in ears I'm looking for, but they are really expensive...
even without these features it will be expensive sennheiser offers high end sound and it comes with a price if oyu compare with the Momentum earbuds
@@michitk3089 Yes, but they could be a LOT less expensive without the fitness stuff.
More data for my rides? Yes, please!
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My favourite element of these earbuds, at least for me personally, is the clog-resistant ear tips. Maybe it's possible for me to purchase some for my Elite 8 Active.
I’ve tried all kinds of earbuds with ear tips of all sizes and with fins as well as hooks. Absolutely none of them stay on long enough once I start sweating. Only Shokz works for me. The sound quality is not as good as some of the others but at least I don’t have to put up with the irritation of them falling off from time to time leaving me to keep fiddling with them for the rest of my run.
Thank you for the extensive information. May I ask where to get it now?
Very interesting review. I was also shocked about how poorly the Polar Vantage V3 wrist-sensor records heart rate, when looking at your charts. It is completely off a lot of the time?
Is it possible to broadcast the heartbeat and temperature to a Garmin Edge for example? I am using a CORE Bodytempsensor, but this would be sometimes more comfortable to use.
HR yes on other devices, temperature only from Polar Flow and compatible Polar watches
They would have been a great pick without the heart rate sensor and temparature measure at 150 - 200 bucks. Senseless expensive feature hardly anybody is using, consuming battery and prone to break/repair. I dont know what kind of people making such decisions at Sennheiser or better their new parent Company the Swiss hear aid manufactorer Sonova. However, if they dont sell they will decrease the price soon.
there is about a hundred alternatives that offer just what you want. what kind of people decide to make a product that's already on the market in numerous versions? You could ask your question about the apple watch, and guess what, it has been selling like hot cake since it first came out. And each year everyone is on their heels hoping apple adds more features and more sensors.
@@maxmeier532 but the Apple watch hold actual value after all. Containing features which are useful and the product makes sense - this is nnovative. Who wants to monitor their heart rate on the watch and in parallel over the earbuds?? who does not have a smartwatch with sport functions but is doing sports. What is the used case, the benefit?? Nobody knows what to do with the temperature measure at all, is it the body or the skin temperature anyway?? when iam going on a run i must pull out my smartphone to check on the sennheiser music app my temperature because like the vast majority of sports people i am not using polar devices but Garmin and Apple. I like Sennheiser for their sound and supporting the company since years owning several products, thats why i am interested in these product, but I think this earbuds will be a tuff sale. I hope for the company I am wrong and millions of Peloton bike enthusiats will flock out to buy the earbuds for 329,- bucks in order to get rid of their expensive smartwatches and monitor their heart rate and body temperature over their earbuds on their bike displays. By the way, Bose already introduced a heartrate sensor in their first version of sport earbuds without success, maybe now the time has come?
@@maxmeier532 Beats Fit Pro for instance sell because they implemented functions and design features which work and got a benefit to people. To try to sell earbuds for 329,- with a heart rate and temperature sensor is nothing of a benefit while literally everybody has got a sportwatch with much better sensors anyway. I dont know anybody who is interested to pay 329,- for a sport earbud which is anyway prone to break because of rain, dirt and sweat and I have not noticed these sell like hotcakes right now.
Great video! As a G-Shock enthusiast I think it would be incredible for an expert like you to test the GPR-H1000 and give us your point of view, is it on par with the Garmin or is it far behind? Thanks and regards.
I have the Edifier neobuds pro that also work with a beanie and gloves on. Plus water and sweat resistant. Good ANC and amazing bass. Can you test the Neobuds pro 2 for workouts?
can you set alarms for min/max values of the heart rate or temperature and how can you control notifications of the alerts? i.e., can you have them forwarded to other devices?
You show HR-Momentum connected to Garmin Watch. Whai watch is ti? The Earbuds are connected via Bluetooth or ANT?
They are bluetooth only
Can you compare the HR sensor against the Jabra Elite Sports and an external heart rate sensor altogether?
Great presentation, thank you, however, I have to wear hearing aids does this mean I am restricted to this product, if so, what alternative do I have?
Same as Liberty 4? But you still need a fitness watch that can download music on to it if you want listen to music while running?
How are these compared to beats fit pro?
Then these will not be for me, as i'm using a Garmin watch. How smart of them to do it this way 👏
So can you take calls with these?
Can you hear your heart rate thru the headphones even if you don't have your phone or watch with you on your run?
When do they come out? Can’t seem to find them anywhere online.
today, they came out today. I just received my pair 2 hours ago.
Does/will it support Fitbit? All my historical data for more than 10 years is there. Not planning to start over.
That capacity panel tech looks amazing but what about buttons ?
Jabra seems to be the only brand to keep up with this old reliable tech called buttons
People like buttons because it's rain/beanie/gloves/sweaty hands proof
"connect to grit x2, V3 as well as other Polar watches" - where did you get that info? V2, grit x pro1 also? I hear this for second time and no one can tell if its true.
Directly from Polar. The Grit X2 Pro and Vantage V3 will be able to collect both HR and body temp and other Polar watches will be able to collect HR.
@@DesFit I checked now - V3 supports, grit pro / v1 dont ATM. Ah ok, only HR not temp. Typical Polar.
Jabra Elite 8 Active, which do you think overall is better?
do these have passthrough audio
oh never mind they do different word
How are these compared to the Jabra Elite 8 Actives? Because, I think those are by far the best sport earbuds I've ever used, and I've used a TON. I'm on the fence about the Sennheisers. I can get them on a big discount right now, but I dunno. I've already got two Jabra Elite 8 Actives.
edit: NVM, that cadence lock is a deal breaker. I didn't realize these were optical. Sticking with my Jabras and chest strap
Bluetooth 5.2, low ip rating for over 300€ isn’t convincing, neither are touch controls for sports usage, where I prefer physical buttons every day the week. They have to make compromises like disabling single touch and never lose options on commands. The heart rate transmitting feature to my Garmin for example during kettlebell workouts, where the watch is in the way, is neat.
Apple airpods or these ?
What do you guys think?
This must be a lot on the health side considering that the peak endurance threes from JBL are almost as good as these but way less. Sensenheiser has elite media and music though.
Too bad antiwind cannot be applied to transparency mode 😢
Too expensive for what you get. I don’t know how many times I lost earbuds when I tried to wipe off sweat…on the treadmill. I never use them outdoors during sports activities especially biking. But to each his own!
Excellent earbuds in sound quality, but I don't like ear tips design, tips should be more rounded and not so sharp edges, even smaller ones irritate my ears and without ear tips earbuds are dropping too easily.
The design looks so weird. Why they make them look like theyre from the movie Chappie??? I miss the old design
ip55 is ABYSMAL for $300 workout specific earbuds
Why? Apart from sweat and rinsing them off, you want to go diving?
@@mjokffsgfjs For people like me who sweat a ton, yeah, these might as well survive a dive.
IP55 is more than enough even for heavy sweaters and people who live in rainy environments.
@@mjokffsgfjsif they fall out and land in a puddle, they are done. IP 55 is abysmal at this price.
@@inthemix can you kindly check out what the tests for ip55 before making that ignorant statement?
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basically its for rich folks who can throw 300$ 😂😂😂
i see a bunch of children all the time with new iphones, which is 3-5 times the price of these buds.
Crap. Gimmicky and the low sound output. Sent mine back went back to Jaybird vista 2 always a winner.
Overpriced trash Sennheiser has been smoking high quality weed again
Sennheiser is definitely not trash, but expensive.
@@davidlynch9049 expensive crap in my opinion?
Love your channel but these are are just a solution looking a problem, crazy expensive to.