@keesvdb A little bit too many Ads though, yes Ads and sponsorship do help the channel, but too many of them spoil the content of the videos, I suppose it's a fine line between giving good content and earning more money.
Love it! Though if you’d worried about the wheels being damaged, try adding a strip of cardboard around the wheel to act sort of like a tire. You could also add more than one strip for extra insurance.
oh man, this gives me flashbacks to the early 2000's and cardboard bike competitions in university. i was always amazed at what people came up with and how STRONG some of those bikes were!
Probably a pretty nice ride considering the absorbency of shock that cardboard can handle. I love all of your most recent vehicle projects but this one may be one of my favorites yet!
once u compressed it, it lost its strength and will not longer work as a puffer... its just clunky and hard, like wood.. i heard prisoners use newspapers as sticks to beat eachother up...
0:23 im am SO happy to hear this. I love your channel, really do. But the amount of (perceived) waste that is created really bothered me. Especially the plastic from 3d prints. But knowing they do get recycled really makes me happy. Thank you James
Worth pointing that PLA is made from corn/sugarcarn and is biodegradable. It does requires a bit harsh condition to degrade fast, though it does desgrade through humidity, UV and heat over a span of a big decades in normal condition. PLA is one of the most common 3d print material, James says his pulley is out of PLA at the end of the video :)
@@A0D1MQ It would require more info on both, generally, latex should be OK while glue depends a lot and probably is not. It was just a general remark about the PLA James uses a lot :)
@@A0D1MQ the he used is PVA which is generally biodegradable but is arguably not bio-save unless you live in a country with a proper water processing plant in this case, since it's UK, it's probably generally fine he used a bunch of hot glue also which is definitely not bio degradeable latex can be biodegradable, the one he used should be biodegradable, if it's latex from oil or is processed too much, it can be not biodegradeable PLA only biodegrade in very specific situation however, given how "pure" 3D printing PLA is (it's a lot of mass in his situation, that are already sorted by the user, probably also cleaned). It's going to be relatively trivial to recycle, even into new spool of filament to a certain point, depending on how clean can you make the process be, eventually ofc, it'll accumulate too much debree or decompose by too much heat cycling. having PLA be recycled in a more large scale process is gonna be much harder just like how recycling plastic in general is hard because most prints are not labeled, having PLA with different additives from different brand of spools mixed together can't be good for the filament quality or even to trust the user that they give the recycler PLA not PETG
You should definitely do a colab with Tom Stanton on an e bike like this. Combine your and his knowledge for an ultimate project. And your idea of the supercat reminded me of that Porsche made out of pvc pipe and tape. Great content as always.
We built a paper bicycle for a competition in collage, our wheels ended up being maybe 2.5in wide and we even gave them a bit of a crown, they worked just fine. We actually built it with a full suspension and not entirely unlike yours our first point of failure ended up being the drive chain.
Cutting all those cardboard discs would have been very doable on the CNC machine using a drag knife (basically a razor blade held in the collet). Certainly better than doing it by hand at least.
Y'know, I'm not even mad about the whole click-through thing. Props on you for honesty. Also, the build is bloody impressive, too! Here's a comment for engagement, lol!
You can cut cardboard on a cnc machine with a drag knife, they are a bit expensive but I have successfully 3D printed a drag knife based on the Donek drag knife design, used about 10 cents of PLA+.
Great video as always, James. You didn't mention it in the vid, but did you ensure that the cardboard corrugations were being laid down in a cross-ply pattern when you were making the wheels. I would imagine this would help to make them even stronger.
Great to see cardboard in the starting role! You can get big scrap cardboard tubes from carpet fitters. Bike shops will also have giant boxes fo free. Cardboard is great for making scenery for amateur dramatics, school plays, etc. It's easy to paint and not too heavy to move about.
I would think a single-layer around the top of the wheel, folded slightly over the sides, stapled to the sides to keep it together would help immensely
If you were going to manufacture a lot of these wheels I would suggest a slow sturdy turntable like a potter's wheel, build your assembly jig on that and as it rotates maybe three RPM you can brush the glue on and then slide the next piece of cardboard down the spindle letting the rotation do the wiggling for you, and then you can press the layers together with a roller.
Amazing project James :) I've built quite an amount of things made of recycled cardboard boxes and yes, it's a very sturdy and cheap material to work with. I'm sure those tube joints could've been made also from cardboard, although I agree that having a laser cutter makes it easier.
I suspect your wheels would be even better (i.e. would compact less) if you used 2-ply or 3-ply corrugated cardboard instead of the single ply. It's horrible to cut tight curves on multi-ply cardboard with a knife though, so a laser cutter would be essential.
You might be interested to know that there was a car back in the 1910s that used a paper wheel like that in its transmission! The wheel made contact with a large metal disc which was driven by the engine, and the paper wheel could slide across its surface. When it was in the center of the metal disc, the wheel wouldn’t spin and the car was effectively in neutral, but then as the wheel slid towards the outside of the disc it would accelerate, so it was basically an early form of continuously variable transmission! Paper was used for the wheel because it had just the right friction and wear characteristics for the job. It could also be moved forward and back to make contact with the disc so it acted as a clutch as well.
It’s doubly cool that the main bike structure is not what broke, but also, I actually remember thinking when I saw the motor assembly, “That looks like a lot of tension on that little pulley just hanging off the motor axle.“ PTL, I hope that means I’m thinking like an engineer. Maybe with some support on the other side, it would last longer?
I'd love it if you explored the concept further. Maybe slim the tube sizes and find a good cheap water proofing method. Instead of gluing joints you could have cutouts on the tubes and 2 part clamps with the positive of the tube cutout so that it could be easily disassembled for compact packing while still being rigidly attached to the tubes--if you use the right sequence of tube sizes they could even slide into one another to further compact storage. I could see a ultra cheap and light cardboard e-bike that can compact down into the size of a large backpack being very handy and legitimately useful.
Crazy project, I love it! Kept thinking you should use the thick tubes as "tires". Just cut it in half lengthwise with a bandsaw and cut notches down the length to bend it into a "tire".
Might be interesting exploring what materials your CNC will work with, ideally with only minimal modifications. It feels like if it could do the jig it should have been able to do the wheels but I know nothing about CNC machines so I'm sure there's a reason why it can't.
*in my best Picard voice* THERE... ARE... SEVEN... TUBES!!! 😂 *In the cardboard skateboard shown in this video **love the vid! All your stuff is so awesome!
You can make some very strong joints between tubes if you fill the contact area with epoxy putty, lash them together with rope/cord, then soak the rope/cord in glue. Made a fiber-glass rack for my recumbent that way and it's been bomb-proof.
Good one James! It immediately made me think of the "Cardboard Cathedral" in Christchurch NZ, which was designed by Japanese architect Shigeru Ban as a transitional Anglican place of worship after the magnificent stone cathedral suffered massive damage in the 2011 earthquake. Cardboard tube and polycarbonate are the most visible materials in this wonderful design. (There is a selection of TH-cam videos for the interested). Showing up to church on your e-bike would be very fitting!
if you made some changes to the pillar between the crossbars it might make a good general-purpose joint. it needs strong points on each side of the rings for locating (big) zip ties to attach each ring to its tube. Also maybe locate the rings inside the short bit of tube?. And make special rings for mitred tube-ends
An amazing build! It's a motorbike, so it wouldn't have been a stretch to call this a cardboard motorcycle. That would have been a good title for the video.
Rollerblades ftw! I don't blame the cameraperson for going slow on the stick and stuff. It's pretty easy to speed through sticks and stuff when you're just skating but when you're holding a camera there's too many things to watch for and a significant risk of breaking the camera.
awesome build, I thinking about assembly composite material bicycle (fiberglass and carbon fiber, frame and small details mostly), gonna try build and calculate it in solidworks, wish me luck )
As a person in the industry, that is corrugated paper.. Cardboard is what greeting cards are made out of.. Corrugated is many layers of paper, starch glue and a machine that creates the ribbing..
a little bit of a curve on those "tyres" would make it handle a lot better, it'd stop that sudden tip over feeling you get going around corners that squared off tyres get after too many burnouts
What would you like to see next - a cardboard Supercar or Cardboard Battlebots !?
Cardboard Robot
Depends, will it be entirely cardboard, or 50% cardboard and 50% 3d prints?
Flintstone car!
You, grown up and doing adult things.
flying over the sea on the wings made from feathers and beeswax (and some hidden 3d printed parts)
I love how this man is sponsored by half of the manufacturing industry
Linus would be proud.
The irony of him not using a laser cutter is real😂
@@theaddict3101 he now needs a sponsor like send cut send
@keesvdb A little bit too many Ads though, yes Ads and sponsorship do help the channel, but too many of them spoil the content of the videos, I suppose it's a fine line between giving good content and earning more money.
would've been interesting to measure the diameter of the wheels before and after riding it
If he still has the template he used to cut them out in the first place, he could compare it with that.
If he still has his template piece he still could.
@@sbushido5547 yes, very good idea!
He doesnt even need the template, he modeled it in cad/cam so he could just take the dimensions off of that
Well he should know the original diameter he had a template, made a jig to fit the wheels and cut every peice by hand.
If Fred Flintstone had an e-bike
More like fred flitcardboard
In fact he has nowerdays 😊
I was about to type something similar
Love it! Though if you’d worried about the wheels being damaged, try adding a strip of cardboard around the wheel to act sort of like a tire. You could also add more than one strip for extra insurance.
Also when constructing the wheels alternate the corrugating by 90 degrees or 45 degree increments to spread the strength of the coorigation
@@andrhart I don't see how that would change anything because where the pressure is being put.
oh man, this gives me flashbacks to the early 2000's and cardboard bike competitions in university. i was always amazed at what people came up with and how STRONG some of those bikes were!
ME310?
Pretty impressive project! 👏😎
who knew that cardboard on the bottom of a pizza could be useful
Probably a pretty nice ride considering the absorbency of shock that cardboard can handle. I love all of your most recent vehicle projects but this one may be one of my favorites yet!
the wheel look a bit sponger that I would it for cardboard, but longer run time go part spongey, to mushy?
once u compressed it, it lost its strength and will not longer work as a puffer... its just clunky and hard, like wood.. i heard prisoners use newspapers as sticks to beat eachother up...
The latex on the wheels probably helped with traction too!
There is always more 3D printing involved in these projects than you expect at first. The paper tape sure makes it look the part though.
Thanks!
0:23 im am SO happy to hear this. I love your channel, really do. But the amount of (perceived) waste that is created really bothered me. Especially the plastic from 3d prints. But knowing they do get recycled really makes me happy. Thank you James
Worth pointing that PLA is made from corn/sugarcarn and is biodegradable. It does requires a bit harsh condition to degrade fast, though it does desgrade through humidity, UV and heat over a span of a big decades in normal condition.
PLA is one of the most common 3d print material, James says his pulley is out of PLA at the end of the video :)
I'm not knowledgeable, but doesn't the glue and latex make the cardboard parts non-recyclable, or at least very hard to do so?
@@A0D1MQ It would require more info on both, generally, latex should be OK while glue depends a lot and probably is not.
It was just a general remark about the PLA James uses a lot :)
@@A0D1MQ At least PVA glue is water dissolvable and biodegradable. Apparently it can just be rinsed down the drain
@@A0D1MQ the he used is PVA which is generally biodegradable but is arguably not bio-save unless you live in a country with a proper water processing plant
in this case, since it's UK, it's probably generally fine
he used a bunch of hot glue also which is definitely not bio degradeable
latex can be biodegradable, the one he used should be biodegradable, if it's latex from oil or is processed too much, it can be not biodegradeable
PLA only biodegrade in very specific situation however, given how "pure" 3D printing PLA is (it's a lot of mass in his situation, that are already sorted by the user, probably also cleaned). It's going to be relatively trivial to recycle, even into new spool of filament to a certain point, depending on how clean can you make the process be, eventually ofc, it'll accumulate too much debree or decompose by too much heat cycling.
having PLA be recycled in a more large scale process is gonna be much harder just like how recycling plastic in general is hard because most prints are not labeled, having PLA with different additives from different brand of spools mixed together can't be good for the filament quality or even to trust the user that they give the recycler PLA not PETG
Awesome! I love all of your videos, but there's something simple and refreshing about this one...thanks!😃👍
Thanks!
I've been passively watching your channel for years and I am always "wowed" by the stuff you've made the world needs more people like you 🍻
You should definitely do a colab with Tom Stanton on an e bike like this. Combine your and his knowledge for an ultimate project.
And your idea of the supercat reminded me of that Porsche made out of pvc pipe and tape.
Great content as always.
We built a paper bicycle for a competition in collage, our wheels ended up being maybe 2.5in wide and we even gave them a bit of a crown, they worked just fine. We actually built it with a full suspension and not entirely unlike yours our first point of failure ended up being the drive chain.
I wish everyone clicked on your videos so that more people would invest their time in learning cool stuff
You make this big projects look so easy!
Cardboard can be used in many projects. I watched a video on making a knife blade from cardboard, and tried it. Worked surprisingly well.
The cardboard knifes are really cool, I've wanted to try it myself but never got around to it
Cutting all those cardboard discs would have been very doable on the CNC machine using a drag knife (basically a razor blade held in the collet). Certainly better than doing it by hand at least.
Y'know, I'm not even mad about the whole click-through thing. Props on you for honesty. Also, the build is bloody impressive, too! Here's a comment for engagement, lol!
You can cut cardboard on a cnc machine with a drag knife, they are a bit expensive but I have successfully 3D printed a drag knife based on the Donek drag knife design, used about 10 cents of PLA+.
I love the honesty about the click bait, very respectable.
James, you build some amazing things, and some very hilarious things. As a retired engineer, I love it!
I can't believe how well this worked
Great video as always, James. You didn't mention it in the vid, but did you ensure that the cardboard corrugations were being laid down in a cross-ply pattern when you were making the wheels. I would imagine this would help to make them even stronger.
Yes! Finally a diy bike with current limiter! Love the VESC concept! I have used them in multiple projects and they are awesome!
Almost looks like a life sized Lego bike. Nice job
It was a great leap for humanity when the Flintstones entered the "Cardboard Age".
Great to see cardboard in the starting role! You can get big scrap cardboard tubes from carpet fitters. Bike shops will also have giant boxes fo free. Cardboard is great for making scenery for amateur dramatics, school plays, etc. It's easy to paint and not too heavy to move about.
I would think a single-layer around the top of the wheel, folded slightly over the sides, stapled to the sides to keep it together would help immensely
Time for a 2 seater 4 wheel car! Awesome build. 👍
Pretty sure that should be more than possible
This was an absolute joy to watch
If you were going to manufacture a lot of these wheels I would suggest a slow sturdy turntable like a potter's wheel, build your assembly jig on that and as it rotates maybe three RPM you can brush the glue on and then slide the next piece of cardboard down the spindle letting the rotation do the wiggling for you, and then you can press the layers together with a roller.
This is such a delightful, Colin Furze style invention!
I'm glad you're doing better.
You know what? I appreciate the honesty about your cardboard tape over plastic "cheat" and I agree with your decision.
Cool experiment.
I really enjoyed this project I love cardboard so seeing anything being made on that level is awesome well done
Amazing project James :) I've built quite an amount of things made of recycled cardboard boxes and yes, it's a very sturdy and cheap material to work with. I'm sure those tube joints could've been made also from cardboard, although I agree that having a laser cutter makes it easier.
One thing is for sure: you are not lazy!
I love that even after building so many ridable projects, James still doesn't put any footrests on them.. :D
I suspect your wheels would be even better (i.e. would compact less) if you used 2-ply or 3-ply corrugated cardboard instead of the single ply. It's horrible to cut tight curves on multi-ply cardboard with a knife though, so a laser cutter would be essential.
You might be interested to know that there was a car back in the 1910s that used a paper wheel like that in its transmission! The wheel made contact with a large metal disc which was driven by the engine, and the paper wheel could slide across its surface. When it was in the center of the metal disc, the wheel wouldn’t spin and the car was effectively in neutral, but then as the wheel slid towards the outside of the disc it would accelerate, so it was basically an early form of continuously variable transmission! Paper was used for the wheel because it had just the right friction and wear characteristics for the job. It could also be moved forward and back to make contact with the disc so it acted as a clutch as well.
Magnificent folly. Love it....but Tron saw this coming exactly 40 years ago!
It’s doubly cool that the main bike structure is not what broke, but also, I actually remember thinking when I saw the motor assembly, “That looks like a lot of tension on that little pulley just hanging off the motor axle.“ PTL, I hope that means I’m thinking like an engineer. Maybe with some support on the other side, it would last longer?
It looks very substantial!
Could you have glued 5 or so together and then cut circles (wheels) using your C&C machine?
"That's society's crime, not mine"
Absolutely savage James, never change
I'd love it if you explored the concept further. Maybe slim the tube sizes and find a good cheap water proofing method. Instead of gluing joints you could have cutouts on the tubes and 2 part clamps with the positive of the tube cutout so that it could be easily disassembled for compact packing while still being rigidly attached to the tubes--if you use the right sequence of tube sizes they could even slide into one another to further compact storage. I could see a ultra cheap and light cardboard e-bike that can compact down into the size of a large backpack being very handy and legitimately useful.
I'll do more if the video does well.
Crazy project, I love it! Kept thinking you should use the thick tubes as "tires". Just cut it in half lengthwise with a bandsaw and cut notches down the length to bend it into a "tire".
would it be easier to glue the card together and then cnc the wheels ?
I gotta see the exoskeleton revisited!!
Whoa, hand cut all that cardboard. That's dedication. Mahalo for sharing! : )
That guy amazes me every time with guys workload. Just can't get my head around it what he actually achieves
@@europhil2000 Of course he's cloned himself. 🙂
Might be interesting exploring what materials your CNC will work with, ideally with only minimal modifications. It feels like if it could do the jig it should have been able to do the wheels but I know nothing about CNC machines so I'm sure there's a reason why it can't.
Perfect for some solid rocket motors mounted in the back frame tubes
If I am looking to get into robotics what would be some essential must haves?
Bamboo is impressive for a natural material. Much stronger than cardboard for frame type applications.
Awesome system you came up with to build the wheels up! Thanks for sharing this with us. :)
Bro, you have too much creativity, great for us, your watchers
🤣🤣 you looking through the hole at the start 👊
Ready for mass production :) Awesome project!
you explained. Thank you so much.
when he just slowly and smoothly nyoomed off… that was delightful
You're an artist.
"But yeah, I know it's cheating, but that's society's crime, not mine!" 🤣THAT commentary earned my like.
how many sponsors do you want in one project?
James: Yes
*in my best Picard voice* THERE... ARE... SEVEN... TUBES!!! 😂 *In the cardboard skateboard shown in this video **love the vid! All your stuff is so awesome!
You can make some very strong joints between tubes if you fill the contact area with epoxy putty, lash them together with rope/cord, then soak the rope/cord in glue. Made a fiber-glass rack for my recumbent that way and it's been bomb-proof.
Couldn’t you use the CNC to cut the cardboard? I don’t own one so I’m not sure what the issue would be with doing this.
did you off set the way the corrigation in the middle of the cardboard ran? if you ran it different directions it would add strength
Yes, when I remembered
I wonder if you could drench the cardboard for the wheels in liquid latex and "glue" them together that way.
Great Video! Thanks! :) liked and subscribed!
4:10 Ultimate Muscle Roller Legend
James, you have a CNC machine.
To cut those initial large circles.
Why is there never somewhere to put your feet?
Good one James! It immediately made me think of the "Cardboard Cathedral" in Christchurch NZ, which was designed by Japanese architect Shigeru Ban as a transitional Anglican place of worship after the magnificent stone cathedral suffered massive damage in the 2011 earthquake. Cardboard tube and polycarbonate are the most visible materials in this wonderful design. (There is a selection of TH-cam videos for the interested).
Showing up to church on your e-bike would be very fitting!
if you made some changes to the pillar between the crossbars it might make a good general-purpose joint. it needs strong points on each side of the rings for locating (big) zip ties to attach each ring to its tube. Also maybe locate the rings inside the short bit of tube?. And make special rings for mitred tube-ends
It's similar to food products. The packages are made of cardboard outside and contain plastic bags inside.
This is such a cool idea
really good!!! thats how you build something!!!
An amazing build! It's a motorbike, so it wouldn't have been a stretch to call this a cardboard motorcycle.
That would have been a good title for the video.
I think this counts enough as a cardboard bike. Great project, as always ;)
Cool bike. Thanks
As a bike geek I'm impressed you used firm offset. Less so that the handlebars don't have a good bend in them.
Definitely thought outside the box with this one 😂
How heavy was the assembled bike?
Rollerblades ftw! I don't blame the cameraperson for going slow on the stick and stuff. It's pretty easy to speed through sticks and stuff when you're just skating but when you're holding a camera there's too many things to watch for and a significant risk of breaking the camera.
James' next project: Automatic Rollerblade path sweeper.
Very good project James ;)
Those flat, squat wheels would make a great cardboard "Big Wheeler" with a thinner front wheel.
awesome build, I thinking about assembly composite material bicycle (fiberglass and carbon fiber, frame and small details mostly), gonna try build and calculate it in solidworks, wish me luck )
As a person in the industry, that is corrugated paper.. Cardboard is what greeting cards are made out of.. Corrugated is many layers of paper, starch glue and a machine that creates the ribbing..
The wheels can do with a layer of rubber shoes from old tyres or inner tubes.
Made an e-bike from glue reinforced with cardboard, plastic and rubber :D
Would the CNC not work on cardboard
great concept, love to see your idea about. cardboard car, keep it up.
Great work. There have been many similar attempts over the years. Yours is by far the beefiest looking :P
It looks like a bike that comes from the old Flintstones !
How long did it took you sir James Bruton?
a little bit of a curve on those "tyres" would make it handle a lot better, it'd stop that sudden tip over feeling you get going around corners that squared off tyres get after too many burnouts
You should have a try at the cardboard boat "challenge"!