An Incredibly Authentic Portrayal of Warfare in the 18th Century: Culloden (1964)

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  • NOTE: The Battle of Culloden Moor was actually in 1746, not '45!
    Often times when a film is plagued with poor levels of authenticity and material accuracy, things like a small budget are blamed for the gaps. This film proves that a small budget is hardly any excuse, because with only a handful of actors and some incredible cinematography it represents one of the most authentic looks at the genuine terror of linear warfare in the Long 18th Century. Culloden is set around its namesake battle, fought in 1746 between the British army and Jacobite rebels in the Highlands of Scotland. In this video we will look at just one scene in the film, and precisely what makes it so extraordinary. -
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  • @BrandonF
    @BrandonF  5 ปีที่แล้ว +288

    There are a lot more incredible scenes from this film- particularly the way that it portrays artillery and its effects on a line of soldiers. If we'd like to see another video on it, let me know!

    • @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432
      @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Culloden was fought in 1746. The Rising was known as the '45, but it ended in 1746

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Oops! I'll add a note of correction.

    • @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432
      @gaslightstudiosrebooted3432 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@BrandonF also, it would be great if you reviewed the aftermath as well as the artillery.

    • @kaiserofgermania5236
      @kaiserofgermania5236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That clip was horrifying

    • @jamesharding3459
      @jamesharding3459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Brandon F. Yes please, good sir!

  • @Damo2690
    @Damo2690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +680

    Biggest mistake of modern day is thinking it was English vs Scottish, it was Jacobites vs Government. With Scots on both sides

    • @erikroggeman7620
      @erikroggeman7620 5 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      that's true, but in the aftermath it were the Highland Scots who had to pay the price. Bonnie prince Charles just went back home.

    • @alecblunden8615
      @alecblunden8615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      The majority of Cumberland's army were lowland Scots, but, yes, it was the Highland families and their way of life which suffered, never to recover. I found the battlefield and all it represents a harrowing and depressing experience. Prayers for all who suffered in the Stewart rebellions.

    • @torinjones3221
      @torinjones3221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Lol try telling that the the scotsnatz

    • @billythedog-309
      @billythedog-309 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @siphosihle madondo And? Does it add anything if l say 'l will always see it as earthlings vs earthlings?

    • @Gizmomadug
      @Gizmomadug 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@torinjones3221 Shows just how ignorant you are.

  • @reallyoldfatgit
    @reallyoldfatgit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I only saw this film once, I was an officer cadet at the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst in 1980. It was shown in part to educate us about that form of warfare but mostly to show us how not to behave to a vanquished enemy and population.

    • @joemuir2575
      @joemuir2575 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ethic cleansing

  • @hoplitethirtynine1487
    @hoplitethirtynine1487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I remember seeing this in high school in Edinburgh in the early 80s. Most war movies take a side. But the best ones are where the movie takes a relatively neutral stance (A bridge Too Far), show tragic missions (Black Hawk Down), present the war from the enemy's view point (Cross of Iron).

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The effect isn't neutral.
      What we witness is a massacre.

  • @ChristheRedcoat
    @ChristheRedcoat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    That one screenshot at 9:28 is peak aesthetic, to be honest.

  • @rangefinder3538
    @rangefinder3538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    The movie was first broadcast by the BBC.
    I and millions of other TV viewers had no idea of what we were about to see that Friday night.
    I saw it as a young boy and was truly horrified by it and had nightmares about it for a long time after.
    And I was not alone. It caused a sensation in the country. The BBC was inundated with tens of thousands of complaints about the depicted savagery and scenes of the atrocities that took place after the battle, which were incredibly portrayed by that cast of
    (hard to believe) amateur actors.
    The direction, photography, and editing should have garnered armfuls of Oscars for everybody involved but it was considered too graphic for American audiences.
    It is a magnificent film.
    Even today, with all the real barbarity of war that we see on the six o'clock news, nothing comes close to the emotional shock of viewing this film again.
    It was gut-wrenching when I saw it all those years ago and again when I viewed it many decades later.
    The cold-blooded; detached, and creatively invented "newscast" interviews of the characters on the field, from Bonny Prince Charlie, the Duke of York, captains, privates, and clansmen add a humanitarian but surreal atmosphere to everything we see and are about to see." Culloden" is a tour de force that depicts the eternal horror of what war must be really like. It is the best war film I have ever seen. And I recommend unequivocally.
    Kudo's Brandon for resurrecting this magnificent film.

    • @pablojereznavarro8165
      @pablojereznavarro8165 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      such words deserve more likes sir!

    • @rangefinder3538
      @rangefinder3538 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pablojereznavarro8165 Thank you.

    • @richardklug822
      @richardklug822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This was one of the films that ignited my lifelong interest in history. CULLODEN was broadcast in the US, but only by a few stations on the Public Broadcast System. I first viewed it in the 60's when it was shown on Washington DC's WETA. I was frustrated that the events depicted in the film were barely mentioned in my high school text books, so I resolved to learn more. That spark still burned 50 years later, when I walked the actual battlefield in 2014.

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same here. It blew me away as a kid. It still ignited my interest in military history, but took the glory aspect out of it.

    • @alexwilliamson1486
      @alexwilliamson1486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My old headmaster plays one of the highlanders at the beginning...speaking in Gaelic, this comes close to what it must have been like to fight there..the sheer panic in the Government troops awaiting the Highland charge, biting the cartridge and ramming home..

  • @Jabrwock
    @Jabrwock ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I instruct Canadian army cadets (12-19) and the media portrayal of "romanticized" 18 and 19th century combat can make it a challenge to teach regimental history. I always get asked "why did they just stand there and wait to get shot". Your videos have helped to contextualize and visualize the realities of why tactics were the way they were.
    This video in particular. This mockumentary, while graphic, was a great eye opener to our more senior kids who were taking an interest in the traditions of the British Army and Artillery, and helped to humanize the individual soldiers who were both on "the line", the battery, and the receiving end of the horrors of wars of that era.

  • @fds7476
    @fds7476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    I don't agree with your description of this film being anti-British. Anti-war, yes, but not anti-British.
    I actually found the portrayal of the two sides remarkably balanced, if persistently cynical; neither side, nor their commanding figures, come out smelling anything like roses, but for good, thoroughly explained reasons.

    • @torinjones3221
      @torinjones3221 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Anti british lol it's anti english.

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      I will admit that my being much more 'Pro-Hannoverian' will skew my perspective on that. Though, I do feel that this film could have done a better job at pointing out that this was not a "Scottish vs English" battle, but as another commenter put it, "Jacobite vs Government" battle. I get a sense, overall, that the film is portraying this as a shared-blame affair despite the fact that one side was supporting an active pretender to the throne, while the other was merely defending its status quo. Though the actions taken by the British state *after* the rebellion, in quashing further resistance, certainly do align more with that narrative.. Certainly the "anti-war" and "anti-aristocracy" themes are much stronger, here.

    • @fds7476
      @fds7476 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@BrandonF
      I did like the fact that they went out of their way the point out that this affair _wasn't_ merely a (bi-)national one.
      Bonnie Prince Charlie, as shown here, has grown so foreign to his home the he's struggling to speak English, much less Gaelic.
      The Jacobites are heavily relying on French support troops in the form of Irish exiles.
      And in one particular scene, one can hear some of the government officers chatting in _German._
      Lastly, the documentary does mention that there were more Scotsmen marching _against_ the Jacobites at Culloden than with them.
      Personally, I'd consider myself fairly neutral in my sympathies on this issue
      On one hand, I'm an unabashed anglophile, and I have some quite strong feelings about the constant secessionism in the United Kingdom.
      On the other, I myself am Bavarian, and the current heir to the Jacobite throne is the Duke of Bavaria, so yeah, that's pretty cool too, for me.

    • @KroM234
      @KroM234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It is by no mean anti-british indeed, it depicts prince Charles and other Jacobite commanders as total idiots and only show the battle and the war as a British vs Scotts thing, yet the Jacobites inflicted terrible defeats before Culloden and their ranks was full of deserters from British regiments, still wearing the exact same redcoat uniforms but with the blue bonnet instead of the hat. Just as it doesn't show the French troops that fought at Culloden. Moreover, hand-to-hand combat only happened in one main spot of the battle line at Culloden, and was quite brief because the Highlanders were almost immediately flanked in cross fire and shot to pieces. The flanking troops of from the British left wing fired dozens of volleys at point blank range without any Jacobite ever reaching their line. Most of the battle's casualties happened there. Everywhere else, the charge was basically cut down by musketery. Nothing either on the glorious escape of the Royal Ecossois, who escaped an ambush, shot the Highlander chief who laid it, saved the regimental colours, and covered the Jacobite flight. They only surrendered days later at Inverness to be shiped back to France.

    • @markmacdonald3260
      @markmacdonald3260 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KroM234 Your right they showed The Wild Geese but not the Royal-Ecossais.

  • @Attofoxy
    @Attofoxy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In one way, it's the lack of budget that makes this fight scene: in trying to mask the small number of people the director had to take a close and personal perspective. I'm impressed by the attention to other details like the soldiers' expressions and the devolvement of the battle from rapid firing to hand to hand combat. The sense of terrified, visceral chaos is real.

  • @luminous3357
    @luminous3357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saw this on PBS as a kid. And again some years ago. Gut wrenching and deeply impactful stuff. It was the first of this type of docu-drama and is considered by many film scholars to be the finest ever made and one of the best films ever made of any genre. Most of it was filmed with a hand-held camera. Thanks for covering this gem. I'll be viewing it again.

  • @wilfordbrimleyful
    @wilfordbrimleyful 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    But was there a scene of a lone Scottish piper going with a small oddly dressed man into a disappearing blue box?

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love your username. I got 36 Jaffa Cakes from co-op today for an excellent price. Just a heads up.

    • @rayoung74
      @rayoung74 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Professor Von wehr I presume!

    • @zxbzxbzxb1
      @zxbzxbzxb1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alas poor Jamie. Seem to remember he was dumped back there with his memory erased and very possibly was killed in action within hours :(

    • @Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire
      @Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zxbzxbzxb1 very probably yes. Poor bugger

  • @TheTsarsTailor1910
    @TheTsarsTailor1910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I cried at the end of that clip, I don’t cry often but history and wars always hits my heart close

    • @kargaist
      @kargaist 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Director did a documemtary film in a very similar style about a hypothetical "limited" nuclear exchanged between NATO and the UDSSR and how it effects Britain.
      "The war Game". One of the most gut wrenching films I've ever seen.
      th-cam.com/video/Nzd_VE-bfhA/w-d-xo.html
      Apparently both films are available in a DVD bundle

  • @markdriver5563
    @markdriver5563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw this film on ABC TV in about 1966 when I was 8 years old. It frightened shit out of me. I watched it again on TH-cam in 2013. It frightened shit out of me again.

  • @David-lu4gq
    @David-lu4gq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Glad to see you are covering this. A great watch. I must be the only 20 year old who has watched this.

  • @halnywiatr
    @halnywiatr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The pre-battle "interviews" give great context to the events of the melee. I haven't seen this film in 50 years and still remember bits of the interviews.
    @ 5:15 "to the right" The Grenadiers deployed an extra man in every rank. the instruction was to thrust with the bayonet to the right as the Jacobins would be parrying with their shields and raising their swards overhead leaving their right torso exposed. It took great discipline to count on the training of the man on your left to dispatch the foe directly in front of you.

    • @robplazzman6049
      @robplazzman6049 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bummer to be the last man on the rank !

  • @whiterosecicero4802
    @whiterosecicero4802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I’m so glad that you covered this film and period. I’m looking forward in taking part in a re-enactment if the Jacobite march to Derby during the 45 rebellion this December in the UK. I like the 18th century a lot.

    • @David-lu4gq
      @David-lu4gq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe you can upload a video of it when it occurs? :)

    • @whiterosecicero4802
      @whiterosecicero4802 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      David Dowdall I’ll certainly try. I’ve do it the last three years. It is relatively small event but I’ll try an hunt down some footage I know it is on TH-cam somewhere.
      (Found some from 2017. I’m one of the Scottish flag holders for the highlanders) th-cam.com/video/Bk-Y4KCwkOM/w-d-xo.html

  • @alexwilliamson1486
    @alexwilliamson1486 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My headmaster of my primary played one of the highlanders in this film, Mr Campbell was his name ironically!! Great film, it still holds its own today, for realism and brutality of 18th century warfare.

  • @sparkymmilarky
    @sparkymmilarky 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I had never seen this hidden gem. Thank you, would love to see more like this

  • @benjamingrist6539
    @benjamingrist6539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Funny you should upload a video on the horror of 18th-century warfare today, Brandon, as just a few days ago I stumbled upon a song from the American War of Independence that gives the average Patriot's perspective on the matter. It's titled "Fare Thee Well Ye Sweethearts" or sometimes just "Fare Thee Well Sweethearts". While the song does state that the Patriot cause is just and worth fighting for, it has a very melancholic tone and looks forward to the day when the war is over. Most telling is one of the later verses. While the words change slightly from version to version, it goes something along the lines of this:
    And then each lad will take his lass, all beaming like a star,
    And in her loving arms forget the dangers of the war.

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've actually not heard that tune! Surprises me, because you know how much I love songs with these sorts of themes. I'll have to look it up. Thanks!

  • @geoffreymowbray6789
    @geoffreymowbray6789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    More Scots served in the Government (Hanoverian/Protestant) army than in the Jacobin highland (Stuart/Catholic) army. Beside the lowland Scottish regiments there were highland clan militia in the government army that were there to settle old clan disputes.

    • @Apollo890
      @Apollo890 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      They also forget that there were English, Irish and French in the Jacobite army during the 45 rebellion.
      When the Jacobites invaded England a regiment of English supporters was formed at Manchester. Whilst the French Sent some French troops and The famous Irish Dillon's regiment. So the Jacobite army at Culloden was not all Highlanders.

    • @Peristerygr
      @Peristerygr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Οf course. The Jacobite Rebelion was like a "british war of religion" where protestants and catholics fiught each other. Just like the French War of Religion who was the goverment(catholics) against Huguenots(protestants). So the large scottish protestant population would naturaly fight for the also protestant goverment of London

    • @markstedman9099
      @markstedman9099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Patrick,Yes also there was a lowland contingent of Jacobites,it wasn't just highland Scots who fought for the Stuarts

    • @SlyBlu7
      @SlyBlu7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's how it was in just about every war fought in Scotland. The Highlanders and Lowlanders aren't starkly divided between one side or the other, and the Highland Clans are usually more motivated by their own feuds and grievances with each other, than whatever 'cause' they seem to champion in a particular battle. Not to the detriment or denigration of the Scottish Clans or their fighters - just a fact. Scotland was a very different part of the Isles, and British 'sensibilities' tend to get lost somewhere in the fog.

  • @PPCmenace
    @PPCmenace 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I first saw this film in 1994 in high school. Then I lost it for years until I re-discovered it on TH-cam a few years ago. I regularly watch it.

  • @fattyMcGee97
    @fattyMcGee97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of my family members fought on the side of the British for the crown during the jacobite rebellion. I know nothing else about him, but through this it is a war that I am fascinated by. I am grateful for you bringing this film to my attention as I’ve been looking for new things to watch!
    I agree with what you say about war films except for a good one. With a good one, you walk away feeling a little disgusted and disturbed. These were the feelings that I got from this scene that you showed.

  • @georgewarrilow3421
    @georgewarrilow3421 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Another great vid Brandon

  • @rowlandhoskins3153
    @rowlandhoskins3153 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fantastic Video, Brandon! I would love to learn more about the Jacobite uprisings of 1688-1746!

    • @HO-bndk
      @HO-bndk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are lots of books on that.

  • @drfoxcourt
    @drfoxcourt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As usual, a very good job in highlighting not just the film, but also the horror that soldiers put themselves through. Thank you for raising the movie again into our consciousness.

  • @MarkMeader-e4r
    @MarkMeader-e4r 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It was shown to my English History Class at the U of MD in 1972-3 to the amazement of the students!! I had seen it on PBS in 1967 and was Overwhelmed then too!🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @taylorahern3755
    @taylorahern3755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At Culloden not only was the Jacobite Cause lost yet the 1200 year old Scottish Clan System/Highland way of life along with what was the last ancient tribal culture in all of Europe all came to a sad & tragic end upon those blood drenched fields, all during that last ferocious & desperate Highland charge of Gaelic war cries, flashing swords, sharpened bayonets leveled, discharging muskets, horrific death groans & savagely clashing armies, much of which was captured superbly in that clip above. Yes, the last such tribal holdout in all of Europe came to a bloody & lamentable end on that field, all while the indomitable & fearsome Jacobite soldiers/Highland tribesmen fought heroically, like fearless lions, undefeated in spirit, giving this magnificent account of themselves in battle, dying in droves as they crashed maniacally into the bristling, waiting bayonets of a numerically superior, more disciplined force. Freedom fighters right down to the cellular level, RIP🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @theodisius1
    @theodisius1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video about a fascinating documentary. I was impressed to see read effective the Highland charge was - breaking through at Prestopans; partially at Falkirk; and even getting through thr first line of defence at Culloden. I know more about Napoleonic battles, where it seems infantry melee was rare - charges were more like morale contests, being decided by one side breaking before hand to hand combat. The Highland charge seems contrary to this - probably because the less well drilled advancing Scots did not try to win by firepower and perhaps also because firepower (especially artillery) was less lethal than during the Napleonic period.

  • @glynthomas7213
    @glynthomas7213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Culloden by John Peebles is a great read full of eye witness documents . A very brutal battle and time to live in .

    • @paddy864
      @paddy864 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This film is based on his book and he was a consultant for it.

  • @colinlatham7905
    @colinlatham7905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The battle field is one of the most moving places I have ever visited. I highly recommend it

  • @FLashman-cv5dn
    @FLashman-cv5dn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember watching this at school back in the 80's. Great docu film. Still has the same impact on me as it did as a 12 year old. Powerful stuff.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Sad that this is more accurate than real movies

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This was a remarkable piece of cinema back then, and it still is. Great art tells a story, even if it upsets the viewer.

  • @tonyrichardson5511
    @tonyrichardson5511 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Visited Culloden battlefield today.
    "Our blood is still our fathers,
    And ours the valour of their
    Hearts.

  • @scipioafrica
    @scipioafrica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe John Prebble worked on this. His writings on Culloden and the Clearances are well worth reading for the strong stomached.

  • @grahamlait1969
    @grahamlait1969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'and actually did it extraordinarily tastefully'... so says the presenter of this post. If only he knew just how tastefully. One of my friends (who'd have been about ten at the time) got a wee job as an extra on 'Culloden' and had to pretend to be a dead highland laddie on the battlefield, so he turned up in his kilt and promptly got splattered with fake gore as his makeup, only the gore was actually strawberry jelly (I think you call it jello in the States) and custard... very tasty, so he told me... made his day.

  • @anastasiosgkotzamanis5277
    @anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I would like to hear your opinion on "The Cross Of Iron."

    • @rohitrai6187
      @rohitrai6187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't enjoy it

    • @justinreilly6619
      @justinreilly6619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really enjoyed this film.

    • @rrsometimesa2239
      @rrsometimesa2239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My absolute favorite ending in any movie gives me chills everytime

    • @brianford8493
      @brianford8493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brilliant Pekinpah flick......"A good kill Karl" ...not too many glaring kit fuckups either

    • @brianford8493
      @brianford8493 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VictorianTimeTraveler what's that got to do with the film?

  • @54macdog
    @54macdog 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watkins is a brilliant film maker. If you get the chance to visit Culloden it is a very moving experience, whatever your perspective on the event.

  • @rancidpitts8243
    @rancidpitts8243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    War for the common Soldier is like this movie portrays, Narrow, Confined, and very Personal. Fifty years after my all expense paid, year long vacation in Vietnam I will have nightmares again of such, it will be fun they said, activities. The film clip was not what I experienced, how could it be, but the felt emotion was the same. It is a shame that good men on either side die while the people that caused it to happen continue to live and cause more trouble in the name of their side.
    It is a pity humanity love to cause aggravation and trouble.

  • @sumnergrey4301
    @sumnergrey4301 ปีที่แล้ว

    I first saw this film in the late 1960's in Philadelphia. My partner was running a free film program in a co-op coffee house in a "liberated " house in West Philadelphia. Most of the films,and the projector, came from the public library. Culloden blew me away.
    To someone who grew up watching 1950's TV, however, the format was by no means a silly conceit, but rather an imitation of a very popular 1950's show called "You Are There, " in which a historical event was portrayed as if it were be covered as it happened by a TV news team. Picture, for instance, Brutus being interviewed on the current state of Roman politics on the morning of the Ides of March. So I felt it was both hilarious and appropriate, and made the whole film that much more effective. Especially the interviews of the highland crofters just before the slaughter.

  • @randelbrooks
    @randelbrooks 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes you’re right I saw that on our local PBS affiliate in Houston in the early 1970s when I was in high school and it really provoked my interest in reacting. It was very well done I could tell even at that age. I remember how gripping it was as there was a man laying facedown on the ground feeding his face into the ground in pain and I had never seen anything like that in a movie or TV show. and remember Steve Allen had already done a series called meeting of minds in which there was a roundtable of four people from history who would sit and discuss a topic with him as a moderator so this was something that was on producers minds at the time, that is bringing a news crew back to a real historical event and filming it as it happened and talking to the people involved. It’s still a good idea. I made a film myself in my early career called succession which is a group of men living near Fort Sumter discussing what is going to happen if a war breaks out and then during the card game word arrives that the shooting has started and the conversation changes to fact. Since I was one of the historians and customer and director of the project it was done very authentically using all my own clothing from the period and furniture ha ha. I am very impressed that you knew about this old documentary from England! There is a another good foreign documentary series that was seen on PBS back then there were interviews with Mark Twain as portrayed not by Hal Holbrook, but by a Canadian actor and it was actually better. I wish I could remember the name of it.Maybe someone reading this can tell me what it was so we could find it.

  • @ThatIrishLass
    @ThatIrishLass 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my experience films set in the mid-to-late 19th century tend to do this very well as well--depict linear combat as brutal bloody, and very personal war, rather than bombastic popinjays facing each other down impersonally. Films set during America's Civil War which reject the myth of the Lost Cause--Glory, Lincoln, Free State of Jones, and Cold Mountain all spring to mind--seem particularly good at this.

  • @bigglesbiggles1
    @bigglesbiggles1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Years back in the 90s I was in the Cromwell productions video of Culloden (amongst others). Some of us used this film for research prior to get the vibe.... if you are looking for me in the doco I'm the jacobite who gets hit full gut with grapeshot...still have the shredded shirt from where the charges tore through it spraying the blood charges.

  • @wallisthescot6544
    @wallisthescot6544 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What passion this man brings to his material. Outstanding.

  • @tiredman4540
    @tiredman4540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard about this film at school when another class were shown it (although I'm not sure if it was edited or shortened) and I felt very bereft. I seem to remember it covered in greater detail who the men were and what they actually fought for too. Time to watch it all through now, raise a glass to public service broadcasting...

  • @alistairbain6149
    @alistairbain6149 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first time I saw Culloden (TV, in Australia) I was in shock and horrified. The second time, via TH-cam, it plunged me into a deep depression.
    It’s a gruesome film - more for what is omitted than for being graphic in the way modern films are. That’s its genius.

  • @markmeader5148
    @markmeader5148 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good to know someone appreciates Watkins and his film(s). His “The War Game” about Nuclear War among civilians, was made a few years later, almost 20 years before “The Day After” but just as powerful, like “Culloden”.

  • @Concetta20
    @Concetta20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s like the radio show “You Are There.”

  • @transvestosaurus878
    @transvestosaurus878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This isn't an anti-British film, this an _anti-war film_ , specifically the Vietnam War, TV coverage of which this film is designed to imitate. Strikes me that a lot of TH-cam military history fans might not have seen a real anti-war movie before, without any of the heroes or romance of Hollywood.

  • @Apollo890
    @Apollo890 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Hey Brandon, I'm curious of what you think of Stanley Kubrick's Barry Lyndon. Are you ever going to do a video on that.

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He used a clip from Barry in his linear wafare video.

    • @Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire
      @Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Mack Sarnie they wouldn't have opened fire if they couldn't hit them

  • @jagvillani338
    @jagvillani338 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    First saw this film in a British history class many years ago, still watch it from time to time, and the lead up to the battle that discusses the social status of the common soldiers on both sides is also fantastic.

  • @mishman44
    @mishman44 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was in grade 9, we took British history. We saw both Culloden and Waterloo. Cullodeon is great.

  • @garysmith3173
    @garysmith3173 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent analysis,thank you. I remember watching this as an 8 year old boy and it has always remained with me.

  • @jamesharding3459
    @jamesharding3459 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Brandon, when will we get body pillows in the mercy shop?

  • @fhmen
    @fhmen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    this movie blew my mind when I bumped into it on youtube. I wish there were more like this around.

    • @cambs0181
      @cambs0181 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are. I would recommend Threads.

  • @kyriakospentheides
    @kyriakospentheides 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably my favourite depiction of the 1740s-1760s period, which is, as I mentioned in a few comments, my favourite years of the 18th Century, because it doesn't make me shake my head so much. Most of the uniforms are also accurate and they don't have too many oddities and misinterpretations of the facts of the period. It isn't something I pick apart like Barry Lyndon (the fact that soldiers in what is supposed to be the 1780s at the end look the same as they did in the 1750s is irritating).
    This movie portrays the people who fought this battle as human beings not much different to today. I rememebr talking with the great Irving Finkel at the British Museum, talking about how people of the past (even those of ancient Assyria) were not so different today; they loved, they laughed, they hated, they were cruel. This movie remembers that human beings haven't evolved to have feelings and complex personalities in our era, something Hollywood movies often fail to do unless they are making the people too modern.

  • @rossmac8743
    @rossmac8743 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a worthy appraisal of a great film very few have seen or wish to see but all should

  • @TheChipmunkt10
    @TheChipmunkt10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for a very true appraisal, and comment on a Military Documentary on Warfare.

  • @Jaymark-gk4li
    @Jaymark-gk4li 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember seeing it on tv..then at school as a history lesson 😅

  • @isileiliparis8626
    @isileiliparis8626 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I visited culloden last year. There is have a room in the museum where you can watch a 360 video of the battle recreted. It brought me to tears.

    • @isileiliparis8626
      @isileiliparis8626 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @kennymacdonald5313 oh god, thanks for reminding me of my cringey comment from years ago haha

  • @samuelwarshaw9480
    @samuelwarshaw9480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Brandon, keep up the good work

  • @paganphil100
    @paganphil100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "forgotten" verse from the British national anthem:
    Lord grant that Marshal Wade
    May by thy mighty aid
    Victory bring.
    May he sedition hush,
    And like a torrent rush,
    Rebellious Scots to crush.
    God save the King!

  • @gerryphilly53
    @gerryphilly53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree that this is great film. My introduction to it was when it was screened in a school assembly at my high school in 1968.

  • @tanegurnick4576
    @tanegurnick4576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The 1840s to 60s new Zealander wars involves not only bayonet charges but trench warfare and anti artillery bunker warfare before ww1

  • @spookyshadowhawk6776
    @spookyshadowhawk6776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    War is Hell, nothing romantic about it, just two groups of men killing each other until one side breaks. I agree, this is one of the best movies about war ever made, as far as representing the truth about war and it's aftermath as it really is.

    • @Apollo890
      @Apollo890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saving Private Ryan anti-war? I did not get that vibe the film seemed to be America Triumphant. I literally started and finished with an American flag blowing in the wind in slow motion.

  • @HistoryBoy
    @HistoryBoy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is crazy! I can’t believe your making a video on this! I watched this with my Scottish friend, and we had to stop because of the gory effects... I was 6. 😂 Great job!

  • @garretphegley8796
    @garretphegley8796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That "Buckler" is a Targe.

  • @metalman6708
    @metalman6708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The historical films that effected me on a deep and personal level. Pieces of artwork that you talk about I actually watched in school that I never would have sat thru otherwise. The pianist and shinliers list. Those two films made history real for me. Not just some abstract thought of the past but real people who had hopes and dreams and families and weddings. People just like you or me who lived not so long ago who experienced things that to us are so tragic and numbers so large its incomprehensible. We read statistics like 10,000 men died in a single battle as the answer to the question of a history exam. But never did I stop to think until those movies that every single one of those 10,000 men had wives and mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters and kids and grandchildren. (I say men as an example though those films are about the entirety of the Jewish population under occupation.) They were just like any of us they worked a normal job and they answered the call of their homelands when called upon. War is hell on earth. Some of us are extremely lucky to never yet know that hell. I hope in the upcoming times we can come together as humans and look to the stars and mars together.

  • @rossdavies8250
    @rossdavies8250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    British army veteran. Could not agree more... War is not an entertainment.

  • @owenbarrett2559
    @owenbarrett2559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched collided because of this video- it was a very good movie. So impactful and meaningful

  • @Sturm01
    @Sturm01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe Deanta's video for her song Cullodens Harvest uses scenes from this movie.

  • @SherlockHolmes0532
    @SherlockHolmes0532 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally some quality Jacobite stuff

  • @siamsasean
    @siamsasean 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    As you say about seeing a really good war film, that's how I felt first time I saw Catch 22. Though I was only 13 at the time. Watching it with my WWII vet dad helped.

  • @calerdonian
    @calerdonian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im going to be that guy...You introduce us to 'Culloden 1745'...but the battle was in April of 1746. Fantasic content as always though! I had the pleasure of working at the battles visitor centre, definitely worth the visit. Have you been to the Highlands before?

    • @BrandonF
      @BrandonF  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always be that guy- at least on my channel, where half the schtick is that I'm overly pedantic! I've added a note of correction and changed the thumbnail to reflect it. Suppose I was just looking at the Rebellion primarily being in '45 and forgot that wars can last longer than single year.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BrandonF
      It is usually called The '45 (Jacobite) Rebellion so it's easy to get confused about the date of The Battle.

  • @robyngolden-hann3407
    @robyngolden-hann3407 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I visited the Culloden battlefield a couple of years ago. The ghosts of these poor souls still haunt the place I assure you. I wept there. Many do

  • @5h0rgunn45
    @5h0rgunn45 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My two favourite war movies are 1066: Battle for Middle-Earth, a two-part British movie about the three battles in England in 1066, and Death and Glory at Changde, a Chinese movie about the Battle of Changde in 1943. Both are excellent movies, remarkably accurate to their time period. Both have a cast of main characters, but both emphasise the suffering of all those involved in the battles, rather than focusing on a single A-team of invulnerable heroes. Both have their problems too, but they're still great movies.

  • @carmium
    @carmium 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd have loved to have seen the Monty Python "housewives" clashing after the intro.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Townswomen's Guild have a cannon.

  • @neilmackay5655
    @neilmackay5655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interestingly the major tactical change in the British government approach is mentioned while it is often not. "Remember, man to the right".
    It is often mooted that the 'highland charge' had never failed in battle till Culloden.
    For those who don't know this charge is a man with 3 weapons a spiked buckler, a sword and a dirk. The process is run at the enemy hit first with the buckler, second with the sword and third with the Dirk.
    English tactics or order of arms(?) adapted by drilling that after the first strike to aim not for the (enraged screaming highland) man to your front but to thrust at the man in second phase raising his arm to strike with the sword, presenting a undefended target.
    A distinct, probably one time, tactic that out cleverer the attackers.
    The long run across the moor (longer than was usual anyway as I understand) probably didn't help either, giving more time for the disciplined musketry of the government troops to deliver several extra volleys.
    There's a lot of romantic twaddle around Culloden and the highland uprising, I'm Scottish I know, but it was a simple inspired line of battle tactic that made the victory so decisive.
    The ins and outs of politics, religion, social order and empire notwithstanding.

  • @HockeyMetalRPG
    @HockeyMetalRPG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Director used the same style a few years later with his movie "The War Game" as a portrait of a nuclear attack on England. It was such a traumatic movie that it was banned until the 80s.

    • @anotheryoutubechannel4732
      @anotheryoutubechannel4732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good comment. War Games is incredibly moving and essential viewing for anyone remotely interested in nuclear weapons. I last watched it in the screening room inside the nuclear bunker at Hack Green up in Cheshire, England - terrifying!

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They definitely should have got an A for this movie

  • @armorsmith43
    @armorsmith43 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My wife is a huge fan of the books/show Outlander, so I guess I’ll have to add this film to our watchlist.

    • @steveswitzer4353
      @steveswitzer4353 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the only problem with outlander is it shows the highlands as 'occupied' whereas there were very few british troops there , thats why the rebellion kicked off easily there wasnt much opposition

  • @kirkmorrison6131
    @kirkmorrison6131 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched this several times when I was a Jacobite re-enactor. I learn how to a proper Highland Charge from it. It is a great movie, it was a hard movie the second time as I paid much more attention to the film it's self

  • @cooperjackson614
    @cooperjackson614 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done sir.

  • @lewisbreland
    @lewisbreland ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree that war films should be more violent in order to show the actual reality of war. At some point we have to stop romanticizing this. I've been to war and I've known close hand combat and what it feels like to get hit by shrapnel and to have to take lives in a highly intense situation. Not comparing just identifying.

  • @larryscott8775
    @larryscott8775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    On the Highlander side they were fighting for Polish Prince Charlie and on the British side they were fighting for German George.

    • @glennewen7090
      @glennewen7090 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of the "English" army where lowland Scots anyway.

  • @funkyalfonso
    @funkyalfonso 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent analysis of a masterpiece. I was a ten year old schoolboy when this was transmitted. Infact my history teacher told us to watch it. I think you would have given a better example of the reality of the clan system and the antagonists of both sides if you had shown clips from the beginning of the film rather than the fighting. This film truly portrayed the incompetence of The Young Pretender.

  • @paulthompkins4150
    @paulthompkins4150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm just glad Jamie Frasier aka Jamie The Red survived that battle or Outlander would suck!!

  • @pronz72gh85
    @pronz72gh85 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this film😊

  • @samuelcameron8215
    @samuelcameron8215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the oldest lines in my family ancestry books is “a farmer named Cameron fought during the 45 and at culloden” and that was it he survived but that’s all I know

  • @exploatores
    @exploatores 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the landing scean in saving privat ryan.

  • @avnrulz
    @avnrulz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    'Unpack/unpacking' now the most overused phrases currently in use.

  • @MrSlitskirts
    @MrSlitskirts 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work Brandon, you really 'hit the nail on the head'. I also think filming in B&W gives it a certain quality too. To me it's up there with 'The Battle of Algiers' (1966) in giving a 'human face' to such conflicts. Kind regards from Sydney, New South Wales (NSW); Australia.

  • @paulreed5077
    @paulreed5077 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I seem to recall reading about the British tactics of using the bayonet when the Highlanders were up to the first kneeling rank. The kneeling rank were instructed NOT to bayonet the man in front, but to the right as he lifted his sword arm.

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I vaguely remember watching this on tv when I was young.

  • @ThisTrainIsLost
    @ThisTrainIsLost 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great video and a thank you for introducing me to a film I'd never heard of!!
    But one point: I wish that people would stop using the word "decimate/decimated," because it is never used correctly. The term goes back to the Roman legions where it was a form of punishment for a legion that had disgraced itself in battle, disobeyed orders or something as serious. As the word itself says, the punishment was that every tenth (the "deci-") soldier was executed. However, today decimate is taken to be synonymous with "crushed," "slaughtered," possibly even "wiped out." If the armies of the First World War had been merely decimated, the generals would have rejoiced!! Only 10% of soldiers taken out! Amazing!!
    Yes, in the right place a single word can make a big difference.

  • @jamesharding3459
    @jamesharding3459 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, as always. Thanks!

  • @gordon9050
    @gordon9050 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've studied a little Sword and Targe (known as a target by the English at the time) due being a teacher in historical european martial arts, although its not my area of expertise (my friend is though) a couple of things to note. The charge was over a very short distance as they would crawl to avoid as much musket fire as possible (there is a surviving manual from the period) The shields incorrectly have a large Boss like you would find on Roman shields, however I've not come across any historical examples and a boss or spike makes crawling extremely difficult,

  • @anth10499
    @anth10499 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is what i want to see in all combat scenes. I am tired of children coming away from war films and only being enticed about the idea of violence.

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an excellent docu drama. I'd recommend it, incredibly accurate.

  • @VCYT
    @VCYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could this be the worlds first docu-drama?

  • @patricka.crawley6572
    @patricka.crawley6572 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember watching this at school in 1976...in the U.K..

    • @jayman7752
      @jayman7752 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Patrick A. Crawley what part?

    • @patricka.crawley6572
      @patricka.crawley6572 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayman7752 Manchester, England. Roman Catholic Boys College.
      An excellent broad-minded and balanced curriculum.

    • @jayman7752
      @jayman7752 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Patrick A. Crawley Is that code for daily sodomy?

    • @patricka.crawley6572
      @patricka.crawley6572 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jayman7752 No. I think you're thinking about islam. It's common to bugger boys and girls. The girls' virginity is thus, 'kept'.
      Amazing what I learned at school only to have confirmed on my travels around the Middle-East and gaining information about muslims in the U.K.

    • @jayman7752
      @jayman7752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Patrick A. Crawley catholic’s schools are more of a hotbed of sodomy than Brighton.