Channel LSV: Vintage Cube #4

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  • @tks8096
    @tks8096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    "I don't generally take win conditions..." Ah, that's the LSV we know and love.

    • @maxbaymiller8944
      @maxbaymiller8944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      When he said that I immediately went to comments and expected this to be at the top

    • @braylenzeke4269
      @braylenzeke4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i dont mean to be offtopic but does anyone know a way to get back into an instagram account??
      I was stupid forgot my account password. I love any assistance you can give me.

    • @traviskyson296
      @traviskyson296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Braylen Zeke Instablaster ;)

    • @braylenzeke4269
      @braylenzeke4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Travis Kyson thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site thru google and im in the hacking process now.
      Takes quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.

    • @braylenzeke4269
      @braylenzeke4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Travis Kyson It did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy!
      Thanks so much you really help me out :D

  • @gondalfinkarabnamishmat3750
    @gondalfinkarabnamishmat3750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Finally get to see LSV pilot a blue deck in cube!

  • @Vesdus
    @Vesdus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    At the start of every draft you can hear the dark side of LSV slowly drifting more and more towards storm before he suddenly snaps back to reality and makes the safer pick.

  • @ElMoss64
    @ElMoss64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Vintage Cube Draft #2: "Thing in the Ice has never been playable in any cube in any deck"
    Vintage Cube Draft #4: "This looks like a solid Thing in the Ice deck"

    • @ChannelFireball
      @ChannelFireball  4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

      (and it was still bad) - LSV

    • @maxpedro2
      @maxpedro2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@ChannelFireball I was about to say, proceeds to side it out every time it's possible, and never plays it. It's a good to discard tho..

    • @joseluki
      @joseluki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ChannelFireball because you did not pick the vampire hexmage

    • @jigan001
      @jigan001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im so glad I wasnt the only one who noticed lol

    • @overweightactor
      @overweightactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He picked it optimistically, while mentioning the caveat.

  • @waynebairstow3906
    @waynebairstow3906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The game at 1:00:00 from the opponent's perspective is just a neverending parade of OP drawing the perfect cards in the perfect order.

    • @karanojin
      @karanojin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      aka every time i lose in magic (every time i win is skill)

    • @scottmillor
      @scottmillor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      just alyx I’m in this comment and I don’t like it

  • @chemset475
    @chemset475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ""I don't generally take win conditions, but..."
    - the LSV I know and love

  • @__AlexTheGr8__
    @__AlexTheGr8__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I swear, LSV is going to be in mono red and will still slam Golos AND manage to activate it

    • @BarginsGalore
      @BarginsGalore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ALEXANDER well you fetch a land. How could you not get all the colours from that?

    • @chenwin5
      @chenwin5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah picking Golos over Karnfather was a weird one. The latter can win games by itself whereas Golos can't.

    • @BetaJim22
      @BetaJim22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@chenwin5 Ummmm....I've seen LSV win off just Golos on these vintage drafts a lot. Nothing going on activate Golos win.

  • @Hunkn0w
    @Hunkn0w 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Ancestral recall in the thumbnail? Blue is open guys.

  • @formwithoutcontent
    @formwithoutcontent 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That last game was the most LSV win ever! :D

  • @Borkybaby
    @Borkybaby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Can this be a daily thing hahah. My days automatically stop to watch your vintage drafts or you playing legacy or vintage in general.

    • @rekenner
      @rekenner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      you appear to be getting your wish.

    • @tek3311
      @tek3311 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      rekenner drafts yes, legacy or vintage constructed nononono

  • @jean-christophedancause5587
    @jean-christophedancause5587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    LSV: I don't know why Karn hasn't been picked yet, it's pretty strong.
    Also LSV: *Skips Karn

    • @arcaeus7519
      @arcaeus7519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      His deck wasn't a good Karn deck.

    • @jean-christophedancause5587
      @jean-christophedancause5587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arcaeus7519 Yes, and so must have been all the other decks before! that's my point

    • @lequinow
      @lequinow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jean-christophedancause5587 That's the surprising thing, that by the time it came by it wasn't a good pick for anyone else before.

  • @saiyangoomba1244
    @saiyangoomba1244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "If we pretend that this il-kor looter is an emrakrul the aeon's torn"

  • @sanctuarygaming4984
    @sanctuarygaming4984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2 tutors and 2 flashback effects means ancestral recall got to be cast, twice, almost every game. So awesome.

  • @Bigdisgrace22
    @Bigdisgrace22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's incredible the difference in the quality of the video between LSV not sreaming and LSV streaming

  • @Mofriese
    @Mofriese 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel so bad for that first green player... I see myself in his shoes

  • @Jonziebal
    @Jonziebal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Last game was really impressive from the perspective of holding on, keep trying and win by an inch. I really like your streams. I feel I can learn a lot from just listening to your reflections.

  • @dbregman85
    @dbregman85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    olllrighty welcome to another cube draft

  • @corynewton3865
    @corynewton3865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Can't Mana Leak everything."-LSV. This is the philosophy I live my life by.

  • @cheefjeef2437
    @cheefjeef2437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lsv is a phenomenal cube streamer.

  • @bradleylovej
    @bradleylovej 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That last game was insane

  • @shaihulud9263
    @shaihulud9263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    An LSV draft without the questionable Twitch chat "discussions"? Take my thumbs up friendo

  • @q1006662
    @q1006662 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love to see several of these coming out in such a short period of time. Thank you!

  • @reecehuff8030
    @reecehuff8030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching LSV cube has taught me to take the outlandishly silly pick, because you will ALWAYS get the supporting payoff card in the very next pack.

  • @henzender9275
    @henzender9275 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It will never fail to impress me how many times lsv finds to play that single copy of ancestral

  • @runyon833
    @runyon833 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ritual, Demonic for twist, twist when he had 3 in hand

  • @Scarvetcowboy
    @Scarvetcowboy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 35:40, i think it would have been the best line and ultimate bm to Gearhulk Kologhans Command in draw step.. but the game was already won at that point ofcourse.

  • @roippi3985
    @roippi3985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Point of order: can one refer to a deck as “cheons” if it’s blue/black?

  • @gougoule1512
    @gougoule1512 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They should replace Thing in the Ice with Ominous Seas. Maybe it will be more playable with all the Timetwisters effect.

  • @pairot01
    @pairot01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's not THAT hard to synchronize audio and video. It's been YEARS, Luis.

  • @blackdawn99ify
    @blackdawn99ify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't generally take win conditions.

  • @walkeryeatman2775
    @walkeryeatman2775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Green seemed WIDE open this draft.

  • @gavinzurmely7998
    @gavinzurmely7998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Passing Metamorph and Consecrated Sphinx for Mystical Tutor and Mind Twist? Who are you and what have you done with LSV?!
    Edit: I’m also pissed off he didn’t take Bolas in the second pack. He was set up perfectly for it.

    • @Hunkn0w
      @Hunkn0w 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bolas is the worst planewalker on the cube.

    • @bluebird2807
      @bluebird2807 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Consecrated Sphinx definitely is a victim of power creep

  • @seannissen2509
    @seannissen2509 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    40:52 if afraid of Narset wheel isn't K command their mox a good option? Only way they could pull that combo off next turn would be top deck ritual that nets at least 2 mana. Also lets you think first and gets some problematic card out of their hand. Also lets you flip thing next turn

  • @ArCaNiS23
    @ArCaNiS23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    at 40:59 , why not play ritual, DT for mindtwist and twist them for 3 instead of discarding?

    • @ArCaNiS23
      @ArCaNiS23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you saw it too 2 min later, nevermind

  • @zacharyadler4071
    @zacharyadler4071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like lsv dismissed nicol-bolas at 6:40 without giving it a second thought but this deck actually seems like a good nicol bolas deck. Leaning into black especially with those black lands and the ramp he has, dimir signet, is in the colors of nicol bolas

  • @RCTricking
    @RCTricking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another cube draft? Christmas in July!

  • @shawn6669
    @shawn6669 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time I hear LSV say "I really only like Soulfire Grandmaster with Timewalk" I wan't to scream! It's also an infinite combo with Turnabout! Seriously.

  • @overweightactor
    @overweightactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    23:00 is just a nasty amount of value.

  • @TheBCRob
    @TheBCRob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    at 40:55, whats the consideration on dark ritual -> demonic tutor -> mind twist opponent's hand. Then discard one card for turn

    • @TheBCRob
      @TheBCRob 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      oops, you did it the following turn! Glad you saw it

  • @jshaffer3370
    @jshaffer3370 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love me some LSV cube.

  • @EiJoYuJo
    @EiJoYuJo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:20 So if you take a misty at any point why would you not just fetch an island to help cast expansion as a stomping ground is essentially a colorless land?

  • @Neth91
    @Neth91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "why i karn still there" - takes not-karn

    • @arcaeus7519
      @arcaeus7519 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      His deck wasn't the deck for Karn

  • @gregorykelly8000
    @gregorykelly8000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely draft and play

  • @vy1585
    @vy1585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow Thing in the Ice really demonstrating how garbage it is every time it shows up in your hand.

  • @einoseikkula1847
    @einoseikkula1847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep this content coming please

  • @KK-pm7ud
    @KK-pm7ud 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Give an average driver a Porsche and they'll crash it. Give an expert the same car and watch them go. That last game is fire.

  • @JoeyKneecap
    @JoeyKneecap 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    41:15 - instead of discarding, how sweet would Ritual - DT for Mind Twist - Mind Twist for 3 have been. Oh well.
    Edit: He did that two turns later. I approve, haha.

  • @Arghore
    @Arghore 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tnx for sharing, those were some awesome games ! .. also really liked the deck, just a decent amount of decent with a little sprinkle of amazing and nonsense on top ^^

  • @willreddy2856
    @willreddy2856 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A new archetype five color ancestral

  • @davidwalshy9158
    @davidwalshy9158 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Repeal seemed like an easy cut in the third match when you were doing the red pivot after game one.

  • @marcopolo1020
    @marcopolo1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone have a link to the lsv cube draft where he built the mono black reanimator deck? Please and thank you!

    • @Iluvatar50
      @Iluvatar50 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      m.th-cam.com/video/VH7Bf3SiTN0/w-d-xo.html

  • @samneal2635
    @samneal2635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can't believe Luis still didn't open any Power :(

  • @jackrosen1
    @jackrosen1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Missed out on Through the Breach > Badlands > Blightsteel > Corpse Dance > Putrid Imp. That deck was sooo open.

    • @arcaeus7519
      @arcaeus7519 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He 3-0'd.
      He got badlands.
      The rest of those cards are kinda bad without anything else...

  • @zacharyadler4071
    @zacharyadler4071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Take these videos down! I’m addicted to them

  • @pairot01
    @pairot01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:16:05 what you do is play snapcaster, target ancestral, let mind twist resolve, draw 3 cards, and plan to kill them with explosion. Did you not see the ancestral in the bin?

  • @jong2563
    @jong2563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep em comming!!! Best mtg content

  • @joseluki
    @joseluki 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Missed vampire in the ice + vampire hexmage...

  • @nephiduff2856
    @nephiduff2856 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    No vampire hexmage for thing in the ice?

  • @zonink4601
    @zonink4601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    >Is in grixis, >doesn't take dragon god. man.... some poor dude put that card in the cube just for the one time someone is in grixis control. and LSV doesn't take it. or even mention it. rip

    • @marsh357
      @marsh357 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or play the card he took over it 😢

  • @kylealejandro2022
    @kylealejandro2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In P1P3, say you drafted a High Tide the pick before, do you take Frantic Search over Demonic Tutor at that point?

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd probably still tutor but it's pretty close at that point, could see going either way

  • @q---p
    @q---p 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this last game...

  • @adampilarski7083
    @adampilarski7083 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice first pick!

  • @ForsakenShades
    @ForsakenShades 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice second pick!

  • @laszlovincze5095
    @laszlovincze5095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thing in the Ice doing what it does best, which is absolutely nothing

  • @IsaacEternal
    @IsaacEternal 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait. There's a number 4?

  • @Rannalt
    @Rannalt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    CFB never has CC on. It's frustrating. LSV has A LOT to say.

  • @blakeelawsonn
    @blakeelawsonn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Corey Burkhart approves.

  • @calebdelore3778
    @calebdelore3778 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    More!

  • @tywill31
    @tywill31 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Concession to jeskai player in response to wheel seemed premature. Yes you're behind on board, but you're not mana screwed, you're getting a fresh 7, and you're at 15 life. Why not play that out? It's exciting to me to see how great players navigate from a bad position.

  • @ManuelBerfelde
    @ManuelBerfelde 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    audio snyc issues...

  • @davidhenry1421
    @davidhenry1421 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t EVER take thing in the ice. Not because it is bad, but because YOU think it is bad. So you will literally never play it when you should. Just a waste of a pick and a spot whenever it is in your deck.

  • @michaellevine8477
    @michaellevine8477 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like you play Golos every draft

  • @tonyontilt3522
    @tonyontilt3522 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Thing in the ice in storm? 😂

  • @pairot01
    @pairot01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, Karn got disrespected hard

  • @SkidMcmarxx
    @SkidMcmarxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    surprised you didn't take treachery

  • @marsh357
    @marsh357 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why chalice over bolas 😢

  • @LocardowsmanTV
    @LocardowsmanTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even at the end of the draft I'm still hoping this is somehow going to turn into a storm deck... You are breaking my heart
    Rip brain freeze p3p1

  • @bigwig8657
    @bigwig8657 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I definitely woulda slotted in young peezy with 5 sources, brainstorm, ancestral golos. And what 9 cheap instants or sorceries, snappy and gearhulk.

  • @felixjouanneau7853
    @felixjouanneau7853 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cake - o - mand

  • @SelloutMillionare
    @SelloutMillionare 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Fact or Fiction isn’t particularly good”
    -lsv
    41:20

  • @jorgereyna8788
    @jorgereyna8788 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Karen would have been better than Golos in every game. 🙈

  • @Jaryism
    @Jaryism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, I guess me and LSV are just sooo different people when it comes to draft. I've VERY much just tempo and midrange aggro and card advantage, I LOVEE me some Grixis mid-range aggro. For example, he just kept passing on cards like Bitterblossom, Flametongue Kavu, Nekrataal, etc. actually the only one I really agreed on was Baleful Strix, but yeah.... it's just weird, 'cause 3/4 through his draft and I'm looking at it his deck so far, puzzled, like "ok... you have virtually no removal, no board sweeps... you have like 1 finisher, potentially... how tf are you gonna' win again?" 90% of his cards were just tutors, mana fixers, a counter, and draw, I'm just so confused... how the hell is any of that better than dropping a turn 2 bitterblossom, throwing a Jitte on it and just riding that to victory. I dunno, maybe vintage is a little different but I've played Legacy since the mid-2000's and it's so weird and backwards how he drafts for one playstyle of deck and just hopes to pull a wincon out of his ass at the very end (and scarily usually gets away with it), what would you do if you pass every good creature/walker and get to the end of the draft and you have nothing with meat on it to win the game?

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the strategies youre describing are more effective in modern or legacy cube, because in vintage cube you'll get overpowered by combo finishes if you don't have a lot of counters or disruption

  • @bushidoboar5260
    @bushidoboar5260 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    personally watching a deck just counter EVERYTHING someone plays is boring. Dislike control decks in EDH too, no fun to not be able to play anything, though i guess in draft if it works it works.

  • @daviddutra1559
    @daviddutra1559 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 cubes in a row? Bring more m21 drafts man! We want to see you drafting!!!!

  • @zzafrica87
    @zzafrica87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @jonathanwilson3463
    @jonathanwilson3463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was optimistic when you picked mind twist, and then you turned back into LSV and just picked the same boring red and blue cards you do every draft.

  • @jonathanwilson3463
    @jonathanwilson3463 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Theres something clean about...blah blah blah" you picked boring cards and turned my excitement at a new video into instant boredom and resignation. If I wanted to watch legacy delver videos that's what I would go do.

    • @LSVargas
      @LSVargas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ok