3D Printed Heat Exchanger Uses Gyroids for Better Cooling | The Cool Parts Show #43

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  • Advanced Engineering Solutions applied geometry that could only be made through additive manufacturing to the redesign of a heat exchanger for the gearbox oil of a helicopter. The result: four times the cooling in a heat exchanger one half the size of the original. Gyroid lattices inside this heat exchanger maximize inner surface area to achieve the more effective heat transfer. This part was one of the audience-selected winners of our first-ever contest, The Cool Parts Showcase.
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  • @AdditiveManufacturing
    @AdditiveManufacturing  ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you everyone for watching!
    This part was a winner of The Cool Parts Showcase. A viewer below asked about other winners. Here are the other winning entries:
    www.additivemanufacturing.media/articles/3d-printed-metal-component-for-cnc-machining-center-the-cool-parts-show-47
    www.additivemanufacturing.media/articles/custom-canine-wheelchair-from-carbon-fiber-reinforced-pp-the-cool-parts-show-44
    (Want to see the entire field of competition? Here are all the finalists: th-cam.com/video/SY2RDQFxrW0/w-d-xo.html)

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm starting to see a pattern with this form of manufacturing, cooling, engine pistons to monolithic suppressors. It's really cool stuff.

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer ปีที่แล้ว +148

    You could tell how excited Andreas was that technology had finally reached a turning point where he could not only model these really interesting and potentially applicable mathematical theories, but he could also have them manufactured. It's always nice to see guys who are experts on the theory, only because the technology didn't exist to realize it, end up living until the technology becomes available and accessible.

  • @davidsomerville7868
    @davidsomerville7868 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is probably the biggest win for this generation of additive. I worked in a lab and we were doing a bunch of heat exchangers as well.

  • @r0cketplumber
    @r0cketplumber ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not just self-supporting, but the continuous wriggling of the gyroids accelerates the fluids side to side, causing local hot and cold volumes to convect and mix. That forces mixing and turbulence at the wall and prevents stratification in the fluid. Brilliant!

  • @kellymoses8566
    @kellymoses8566 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I an a Network Engineer and I am so damn envious of how good the tools engineers have.

  • @Plobq
    @Plobq ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an excellent achievement and a strong marker that the future of design will accept 3D printing and in fact will compliment innovation.

  • @Barnaclebeard
    @Barnaclebeard ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I never suspected I could fall in love with a heat exchanger.

  • @morkovija
    @morkovija ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That lady is a great presenter! nicely done

  • @internet_internet
    @internet_internet ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Cool part.
    If it can withstand the vibrations from the helicopter, then that seems like a wise part to be implemented.

  • @JMurph2015
    @JMurph2015 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is one of those things that brings us closer to our real technology looking like advanced alien tech... It's so brilliant.

  • @user-dt8be4zq8z
    @user-dt8be4zq8z ปีที่แล้ว +39

    What a passionate man Andreas is! Happy for him using gyroids in a real life product =)

  • @martylawson1638
    @martylawson1638 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Nice! Good to see 3D printing enter the heat exchanger market. Heat exchangers have lots of internal geometry so are a perfect fit.

  • @philliplopez8745
    @philliplopez8745 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The leaps and bounds of materials and process leave me speechless . I have seen things that even my sci-fi reading 15 year old mind never imagined .

  • @andrewgiancola4928
    @andrewgiancola4928 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So smart! I love 3D Printing!

  • @MRSketch09
    @MRSketch09 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well, that was pretty freaking cool.

  • @Make-Asylums-Great-Again
    @Make-Asylums-Great-Again ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh my God it's beautiful. I want this for an intercooler.

  • @joshuahale8621
    @joshuahale8621 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I make heat exchangers at the job I work and this would be awesome to see if they would be interested in this.

  • @jmd1743
    @jmd1743 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Cool designer, he has the passion that many half his age don't have.

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It helps to work on something interesting and not just trying to manufacture a thing for as cheap as possible.

  • @nobody8717
    @nobody8717 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's a good showcase of the application of the concept in reality.

  • @tlanderso07
    @tlanderso07 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's nice to see someone passionate about there work. These are the results you get when engineers call the shots instead of MBAs.

  • @Fortenurg
    @Fortenurg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the future I have been look for to come. Thank you to all 3d nerds out there that made this possible!

  • @cognition26
    @cognition26 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Literally game changing.

  • @microcolonel
    @microcolonel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Validation on that seems like a lot of work; good work to anyone who can get that into a working helicopter.

  • @digitaldog120521
    @digitaldog120521 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love how the tesla flow brought to 3D makes what simulates a heart. ty for your hard work to make this happen.

  • @tehsimo
    @tehsimo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mind-boggling geometry inside that thing

  • @spikeydapikey1483
    @spikeydapikey1483 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I want one! To me, it's a work of art!

  • @SuperYellowsubmarin
    @SuperYellowsubmarin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    The augmented reality flow simulation is amazing. Talking about parts count reduction, that also means, if additive is reliable enough, a lesser probability of failure because there no joints to fail. When you deal with the blood of the helicopter that's quite important too.

    • @VictorLarsen-fy9ls
      @VictorLarsen-fy9ls ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The main thing is the hype on modern complex technologies and ideas. No one cares how it will be serviced, checked, cost and production time.

    • @timtrainque1060
      @timtrainque1060 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLarsen-fy9ls Well there is no servicing this exchanger, and production times for 3d metal printing are coming down so production time and cost are steadily coming down. Honestly 3d printing works great for prototyping and testing new designs on the fly but I'm not sure if it will ever translate to mass production on a cost basis.

    • @VictorLarsen-fy9ls
      @VictorLarsen-fy9ls ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timtrainque1060 I think at least for air transport they will not make any important details like this, using 3D printing technology. You can get good single copies, spend a lot of time refining the surface, checking, testing. But all the same, it's not really worth it and the weight gain is not significant there. For example, when an old aircraft is upgraded with new electronics, it sometimes gets tens and hundreds of kilograms in weight gain, and this is a side effect of modernization. To get the same weight gain due to 3D printing, you need to change a lot of parts, and they will be of dubious strength, these are already big risks and it's not worth it.

    • @haph2087
      @haph2087 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@timtrainque1060 If this part ever actually gets used, it will have to be 3D printed. There are no other currently existing technologies to create these geometries other than additive manufacturing.
      That being said, I'm not so concerned about servicing this part. This component is small, has negligible sources of wear (uneven heating/cooling is the only thing I can think of), and is inside an engine, where if you are taking the part out it's cause you're already replacing it, or it was in the way of something you were replacing.

    • @phillyphil1513
      @phillyphil1513 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VictorLarsen-fy9ls re: "The main thing is the hype on modern complex technologies and ideas. No one cares how it will be serviced, checked, cost and production time." indeed, for those knowing what to look for the EGO PROBLEM is real easy to spot regarding the "disconnect" that regularly happens in these situations, for like the wise technician said to the engineer "if only the people DESIGNING this stuff had to USE it and WORK on it."

  • @vinceabbott5438
    @vinceabbott5438 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the kind of future I wanted when I was a kid.

  • @joeynelson1609
    @joeynelson1609 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And coolest looking mechanical owl i've seen in a while.

  • @CarLoverPhotography
    @CarLoverPhotography ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow what a fascinating use of 3D printing and such a genius design. Innovation like this can really help us move forward.

  • @MrBertstare
    @MrBertstare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would be super cool to have a miniature STL of this for the office shelf!

  • @jdlessl
    @jdlessl ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm imagining one of these falling through a time warp back to the 1950's and engineers taking it apart and asking "How on earth did they make this thing?"

  • @TorqueTestChannel
    @TorqueTestChannel ปีที่แล้ว +36

    In regards to simulated fluid flow. I'd be curious of the oil pressure delta if any from the current to proposed design. With smaller passageways compared to the current design, I imagine you either need to run higher head pressure or it results in lower overall oil pressure. Just a single curiosity I have, seems like a genius part.

    • @darkfur18
      @darkfur18 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The passageways account for 50% of the cross sectional area of the heat exchange and constructively interfere. It likely has improved flow rate over a similarly sized traditional heat exchanger

    • @Chadron
      @Chadron ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting seeing you here ha ha

    • @AdditiveManufacturing
      @AdditiveManufacturing  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Response from Dr. Andreas Vlahinos: “The pressure drop on tube and shell designs is higher since the fluid needs to travel through a single tube. Gyroids provide several passages and therefore have better pressure-drop performance. Using optimization, within the CAD environment, one can use the unit cell sizes (dx, dy, dz) and the gyroid thickness (t) as design variables to minimize pressure drop and keep temperature less than the requirement. I demonstrate this workflow in my short courses and university classes.”

    • @kiloton1920
      @kiloton1920 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkfur18 I was thinking this may be the case

  • @patrickpredella
    @patrickpredella ปีที่แล้ว +4

    that geometry seems so efficient that you could print it in plastic and it would still be better than most commercially available heat exchangers. just wow

  • @WXSTANG
    @WXSTANG ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Alternatively... the outer lattice structure not only supports the structure, but passively allows for some better heat exchange to surrounding air.

  • @MessyTimes
    @MessyTimes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for sharing both in adequate detail but also with refreshing brevity.

  • @SuperAWaC
    @SuperAWaC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    See now this is one of the real applications for additive manufacturing. Not dumb crap like 3d printing entire cars and houses.

    • @l3d-3dmaker58
      @l3d-3dmaker58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well, better designed parts could take advantage of additive to reduce weight and complexity in cars, or increase performance, like the suspension joints or engine internals, while possibly reducing costs. the Dreamliner plane is using 3d printed titanium for it's engine pylons as it ended up reducing costs and waste compared to billet titanium

    • @drkzilla
      @drkzilla ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well perhaps we could build strange surfaces for houses too 😅

    • @VictorLarsen-fy9ls
      @VictorLarsen-fy9ls ปีที่แล้ว

      @@l3d-3dmaker58 This is only on the condition that these parts are just as easy to maintain and control the quality of production, as well as the possibility of repair, production by simple means.

    • @operator8014
      @operator8014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This isn't actually a worthwhile application of 3D printing yet. The metalurgy of 3D printed parts is still trash, and that doesn't seem to be changing very quickly. Also, the hidden internal passageways SEEM like a neat benefit, until you realize that it cannot be inspected prior to deployment or as part of routine maintenance. On top of that, the parts still require finish machining for threads and precision surfaces, which negates half of the benefits. Ultimately, these kinds of parts can not currently pass any level of the rigorous scrutiny that they must in order to become an FAA certified component.

  • @satibel
    @satibel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the good thing about halving the size is that you could basically have 2 redundant parts. it also probably drastically reduces the cost at scale since there's very minimal manual work.

  • @thechumpsbeendumped.7797
    @thechumpsbeendumped.7797 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s a thing of beauty.

  • @julianopappalardo29
    @julianopappalardo29 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Incredible! Very cool application of a surface that I haven't heard about!!! I'm looking forward to learn more about 'Gyroids'. I think the heat exchanger is heat insulated in assembly phase. My best regards!

  • @jafinch78
    @jafinch78 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting. Will be even more interesting and practical for the client to see what the pros and cons are and mitigating the cons to make an equivalent AND better than 3D printed product.

  • @SharkyMoto
    @SharkyMoto ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what propably didnt get mentioned, at least i didnt recall it, is that its also a much more reliable part since its made from essentially one piece, there is little to go wrong.

  • @The-KP
    @The-KP 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Slavoj Žižek has gotten into AM and I think that's great. Philosopher isn't always a profitable career path, so that he's making a change is impressive.

  • @WhiteDwarfVR4
    @WhiteDwarfVR4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The first time I saw a gyroyd infill, I thought it would make a great intercooler core for turbocharged applications

  • @festro1000
    @festro1000 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Depending on the thermal conductivity of the material the outer ribs could also contribute to the heat dissipation due to greater surface area, paired with titanium oxide based paints I could imagine the thermal dissipation seeing reasonable improvements.

    • @Shinobubu
      @Shinobubu ปีที่แล้ว

      more surface area the better

    • @pihermoso11
      @pihermoso11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or they could have printed fins around it, like the fins used to cool a motorcycle engine.. either way the fins can be cooled with air passing through it or liquid like a radiator would

    • @user-mc5oh2pl7t
      @user-mc5oh2pl7t ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, no. They idea behind this is that heat is removed from liquid oil by liquid fuel, and then this hot fuel goes to the engine. This heat exchanger is placed inside of a helicopter, so it can't radiate heat because it will heat up INSIDES of a helicopter.

  • @Steph.98114
    @Steph.98114 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is why 3d printing is the future for small shops, imagine ebing able to have countless parts within a day rather then weeks. Even in my bikeshop that I work at we have started to incorporate 3d printing to design new tools and tool holders.

    • @DeanTheDoctor
      @DeanTheDoctor ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said dear Lachlan. 😊🌎✨

  • @saml7610
    @saml7610 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WOW, this is actually a really cool show about parts, the name isn't wrong! Never hit a subscribe button faster than I did a moment ago, can't wait to see you guys get a bigger audience. 16.2k subscribers for a channel with this production quality and unique content is genuinely criminal.
    Side note, I was imagining an 3D printed ceramic matrix composite (as General Electric has pioneered) heat exchanger VERY similar to this just yesterday evening in the shower. My phone was in the bathroom with me... I wonder if it heard me talking to myself about the concept and then recommended me this video??

  • @JKTCGMV13
    @JKTCGMV13 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    The external rib idea is interesting. I'll try that on my own hobby prints

    • @hydrocarbon8272
      @hydrocarbon8272 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not sure why they made a big deal of it, car parts have used them for decades. Recent plastic intake manifolds in particular.

    • @rodrigorcs
      @rodrigorcs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hydrocarbon8272 I was thinking the same thing... Almost all the parts in automotive industry (and others) have that. This is way older then additive manufacturing boom

    • @chuckschillingvideos
      @chuckschillingvideos ปีที่แล้ว

      It's just a heat sink. Ain't nothing revolutionary about heat sinks - they've been in use in a wide variety of applications for decades and decades.

    • @JMurph2015
      @JMurph2015 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's super common on rocket fuselages, just on the inside instead of the outside. I'm sure there are sources that talk about the inside of SLS and Falcon somewhere, they would probably be the state of the art right now in that area.

  • @user-vy4or3mz1x
    @user-vy4or3mz1x ปีที่แล้ว +1

    это дикий уровень выращивания не печати, а именно выращивания структур позволяющих сделать что то новое, как будто фантастика

    • @RobotN001
      @RobotN001 ปีที่แล้ว

      как будто хвастовство и распил государственного гранта.

  • @theephemeralglade1935
    @theephemeralglade1935 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What REALLY matters is that it looks really adorable from a certain angle. Take that from a physicist/engineer/world class athlete/musician/author with over 90 years of experience.

  • @yoshyoka
    @yoshyoka ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would love see this used in other domains as well: automotive, energy etc...

    • @GlueTubber
      @GlueTubber ปีที่แล้ว +2

      home heating/cooling heat pumps!

    • @Murzerker333
      @Murzerker333 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. I think like most things that begin as military tech, it is just a mater of time and cost. I can see F1 being an early adopter. I'd love to show this off on a high end enthusiast computer build.

  • @jerrywatson1958
    @jerrywatson1958 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You earned a new sub today. That heat exchanger is the bomb! I hope to be able to buy one for water cooling but made out of copper for PC enthusiasts.

  • @ChuckNorris-lf6vo
    @ChuckNorris-lf6vo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Make a PC (and laptop) case that is a 3D printed heat exchanger. And 2nd find a way to optimize the power efficiency curves of the chips.

  • @H2Dwoat
    @H2Dwoat ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi, absolutely fascinating topic 👍. My mind is working overtime with the possibilities. One point you didn’t cover was a comparative costing between new and old build processes and time to build/assemble the unit.

  • @yelectric1893
    @yelectric1893 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Perhaps the outer grid could be an isogrid for even more savings. Outstanding design

  • @larsjrgensen5975
    @larsjrgensen5975 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A classic plate style heat exhanger would also have been an improvement, this is like going from a wooden wheel to a carbon fiber wheel, when aluminium wheels would have been a massive improvement already.

    • @avialexander
      @avialexander ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd be willing to bet that this can tolerate significantly higher pressures than an equivalent-surface-area plate-fin HE. Higher pressures mean you can make the flow paths longer before losing pressure, which means a better exchanger performance. All theoretically, of course. In practice, these wall thicknesses might be pretty bad for performance.

    • @VictorLarsen-fy9ls
      @VictorLarsen-fy9ls ปีที่แล้ว

      @@avialexander An ordinary heat exchanger was made of pipes and tubes - what could be more reliable and simpler?

    • @mitchellsteindler
      @mitchellsteindler ปีที่แล้ว

      @Vlad they're talking about plate heat exchangers not tubes

  • @thanoskam281
    @thanoskam281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Behind every amazing innovation is a Greek εβγε Αντρεα

  • @MrAdorabao
    @MrAdorabao ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow now that some awesome tech!

  • @Embassy_of_Jupiter
    @Embassy_of_Jupiter ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The line between machines and animals will become very blurry in the future.
    When I first learned how countercurrent oxygen exchange works in fish gill, I was amazed how genius that design is.
    Nature is doing it's own simulations to optimize parts, but it takes a lot longer lol.

    • @kokofan50
      @kokofan50 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the organism. Bacteria can evolve rather fast.

    • @volvo245
      @volvo245 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This does resemble kidneys alot.

  • @tybarzak2272
    @tybarzak2272 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome video and awesome part as always!

  • @Niamato_inc
    @Niamato_inc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is nothing short of amazing.

  • @brad3378
    @brad3378 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This component looks surprisingly symmetrical for something processing such different liquids. Intuitively, I expected the more viscous gear oil to have different optimal flow geometry than the fuel passages that are paired with it.

    • @thechumpsbeendumped.7797
      @thechumpsbeendumped.7797 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I suppose it depends on the flow rate of the 2 liquids.

    • @wadewoehrmann2835
      @wadewoehrmann2835 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point - but perhaps is such an over achiever already this just works. As the shapes are interlocked or mirrored it would be hard to adjust each for its optimal flow, so a design to the greatest need and then it still over achieves.

    • @microcolonel
      @microcolonel ปีที่แล้ว

      if they have similar conductivity, then symmetric surface area seems more important.

    • @sendi_sen
      @sendi_sen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can see the difference between volume through which the oil and fuel would from through at th-cam.com/video/1qifd3yn9S0/w-d-xo.htmlm40s
      The oil looks like it would flow through a much greater volume than the fuel, likely allowing for the difference in viscosity.

    • @eric4946
      @eric4946 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting point to make. I don’t think the oil is so viscous compared to the fuel that it’s a huge difference.
      Realize that the dynamic viscosity of water at 30-40F vs 212 is 5-6X .
      Ever notice ? I think turbulent high speed flow I think the mass flow or energy to accelerate and pump the fluid is a significant proportion of the resistance so making the ports different sizes might not make a real difference ?

  • @robertlackey7212
    @robertlackey7212 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whats missing is incorporating the mounting points.

  • @Clark-Mills
    @Clark-Mills ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A heat exchanger demands no fluid contamination on either channel. With laser sintering the finished part is soaked in the bonding metal dust & there is no guaranteed way to dislodge and remove all of it. A solution might be to bring the completed part up to high temperature, just below melting point, then blasting through very hot gasses through each port in sequence. The idea here is to "glaze" the internal surfaces and melt any remaining particles. Destructive testing is needed to find the sweet-spot for this theoretical process.

    • @PhonePhone-sf8te
      @PhonePhone-sf8te ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking about this while watching. I believe ultrasonic cleaning and blasting liquids through it for a short period of time would probably clean it up fine.

  • @frilime1710
    @frilime1710 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I am an engineer and worked around engines a lot, the design reminds me to the common heat exchanger on cars, but the manufacturing process go me thinking. First the tensile strenght. One of the common materials used in heat exchangers is duplex 2205 stainless steel, witch is manufactured by forging, and so achieving the required molecular structure and a smooth surface. Then it is built in into the heat exchanger. The tensile strenght of the Duplexx 2205 is 90ksi compared to AlSiMg witch is around 33ksi. The rough surface finish is something that is commonly not desireable in contact with fluids, witch means higher pressure especially early when the fluids are cold. Is there a technology avaibe witch allows similar structures, but with smoother finish and with a higher tensile strenght as the mentioned AlSiMg?

    • @-Primer-
      @-Primer- ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It could probably be subjected to an "Extruded Hone" process to smooth the surfaces.

    • @emanuelwerth8693
      @emanuelwerth8693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      smoother finish --> extrude hone after printing :) higher tensile strength --> yes, you probably can't get the work hardened molecular structure, but you can even print inconel!

    • @psorek139
      @psorek139 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think a smoother surface finish can be achieved, but I know that the powder prints can be made with some steel alloys. I know those technologies are also used in (extremely high performance) rocket engines, it may be interesting to look there on how they are dealing with those problems.

    • @qbz32
      @qbz32 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's possible to heat-treat the surface, but it may lead to deformations.

    • @theevilovenmit
      @theevilovenmit ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps 3d printing a hollow ceramic negative and casting the part in a vacuum? then for the surface finish, you could pump a suspension of shot through it to shatter the ceramic and peen the exposed metal surfaces.

  • @nobreighner
    @nobreighner ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is one very cool part!

  • @mEsTiR5679
    @mEsTiR5679 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    really curious about fouling and how you'd clean the internals of a unit like this. we deal with tube and shell exchangers, and the maintenance on those are needed fairly often, so I'm curious what the trade off is in a design like this.

    • @AdditiveManufacturing
      @AdditiveManufacturing  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We put that question to Dr. Vlahinos. He said, “The AM-generated surface roughness provides a higher coefficient of heat transfer. We have not done any testing on fouling. We expect fouling not to be significant as gyroid-flow-domain paths are smooth and we don’t have flow particles hitting flat surfaces or internal cavities. I agree that research needs to be done for various fluids to assess the impact of fouling on gyroid heat exchangers.”

    • @chuckschillingvideos
      @chuckschillingvideos ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AdditiveManufacturing That is an enormous red flag, quite honestly. Any part that cannot be inspected cannot be trusted.

    • @JMurph2015
      @JMurph2015 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you just run it at a high head pressure with some alcohol or something?

    • @gregpratt49
      @gregpratt49 ปีที่แล้ว

      I should imagine a sonic cleaning after "fouling" would do. What temp. drop/increase can this device achive.?

  • @darkone9572
    @darkone9572 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No one mentioned the outer grid adds surface area as well !!

  • @Bianchi77
    @Bianchi77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice,thanks for sharing the video :)

  • @remingtonghiasso2286
    @remingtonghiasso2286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ive been looking into gyroid heat exchangers, amazing to see this one

  • @AHDKDYRARYDJISOEWKEN
    @AHDKDYRARYDJISOEWKEN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (4:00) Slavoy Zizek is an amazing designer

  • @SpaRool
    @SpaRool ปีที่แล้ว

    The designer has an eerie resemblance to Slavoj Zizek, both on appearance and way of speaking!

  • @maciejrzyczniak227
    @maciejrzyczniak227 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks a lot man!

  • @Soulful_Pizza
    @Soulful_Pizza ปีที่แล้ว

    Viktor Schaubergers work meets 3d printing. Nice design, with a new take on WW2 era theories.

  • @sandraa171
    @sandraa171 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a great video. Andreas is a great teacher.

    • @98f5
      @98f5 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

  • @bra1nsen
    @bra1nsen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very impressive

  • @acmultiverse1043
    @acmultiverse1043 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This advance could be useful in Aerotermia, Nuclear Fision and Fussion reactors, Rocketery, Computer Coolers(for classical and quantic ones), combustion engines, etc. We loose a lot of energy in noise and heat. We could warm air before enter to combustion chamber with the same heated, by explosion gas, for instance.

    • @theotheroneb1548
      @theotheroneb1548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Problem is I'm not sure if it can handle the conditions a nuclear reactor (or other similar energy generation) heat exchangers need to take while also being easy to inspect and all that good stuff. Cool proof of concept, maybe someday after the technology matures.

  • @ivan333777
    @ivan333777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stephanie is such a smart (a geek) lady!

  • @MrFadjule
    @MrFadjule ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a shorter version, where the function and design are discussed in a way that isn't also a sales pitch for the tech? I would like to know about the part, it seems very interesting

  • @liamm-c1287
    @liamm-c1287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see this cooling technology in forced induction intercooler applications on internal combustion engines

  • @tsilfidis1996
    @tsilfidis1996 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    μπραβο ρε Ανδρεα!

  • @theotheroneb1548
    @theotheroneb1548 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    From a nuclear engineering perspective this is really interesting. When you're making 3,000,000,000 W of heat per core, heat exchangers are no joke. The main advantage I'm seeing for me is It being one continuous homogeneous material with a well supported interior and obviously the efficiency. Heat exchangers die from the tubes rattling against them selves and anything near them. I wonder if something similar could be made out of a material that can handle the temperatures, pressures and corrosive conditions. I don't hardly ever work with 3d printers so I'm not sure what is realistically possible.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This particular type of additive manufacturing (or "3D printing") uses a laser to melt a metal powder in a precise pattern. It is no coincidence that the metal used has a relatively low melting point.

    • @unitrader403
      @unitrader403 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brianb-p6586 just that you are aware: there are completely 3d-printed Rocket Engines on operational Rockets that got to Orbit. Namely the Rutherford Engine on Rocketlabs Electron. I couldnt find much data about the Chamber Pressure and Temperature, but i am sure it is higher than the use case of the initial commenter.

  • @peepeepoopoo1399
    @peepeepoopoo1399 ปีที่แล้ว

    This thing would be sweet to incorporate into hvac equipment

  • @toi_techno
    @toi_techno ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very impressive

  • @smexijebus
    @smexijebus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't really have any idea about what's being discussed, but I like that it looks like an owl. I'll take 3.

  • @NeilMaree
    @NeilMaree ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Really great concept. On a different note: I love the AR app that shows the inside of the model. Do you have idea what app they were using to overlay the 3D model/animation on the part?

  • @vaughanellis7866
    @vaughanellis7866 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a classily trained engineer it is nice to see them using software to shake out they prototyping bugs, I have one concern though , how easy is it to remove all of the unused metal powder from both sides of the heat exchanger tracks?

  • @julianopappalardo29
    @julianopappalardo29 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think also that we could improve its maintenance capabilities, optimize purging flow of gases, etc.!

  • @LethalEngineer
    @LethalEngineer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Impressive design and a great example for what can be done… just missing a few critical objectives
    - maintainability (cleaning / repairs)
    - inspection

    • @darkone9572
      @darkone9572 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Disposable part now just throw it away and print a new one !

    • @pauljs75
      @pauljs75 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkone9572 Which is great when you're deployed out in the field and supply has that part on back order for more than 2 months. 3D printers for this kind of material don't seem to be fast and reliable enough to be a field-ready deployed piece of equipment (yet), and there would be high demand put upon them if more and more parts were made like this. There would still be wait times on turn over for the not only the part to be made but pass whatever NDT process is in place for safety as well.
      Thus something you can break down, clean up, and get working with a wrench and some rags and elbow-grease has it's desirable aspects in many real world situations.

    • @christophershafer5615
      @christophershafer5615 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Toss it in an ultrasonic cleaner when doing maintenance? Air pressure leak-down test after cleaning?

  • @leo_noia
    @leo_noia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing

  • @yagoa
    @yagoa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow I never thought of that!
    But I have been playing with gyroids as vibration dampening and the like.
    Does anyone know of a way to generate separated gyroid as infill in a filament based slicer?
    I was hoping to make an air heat exchanger for ventilation...

  • @kiloton1920
    @kiloton1920 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never heard of a gyroid very cool

  • @IronMan-yg4qw
    @IronMan-yg4qw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    awesome.

  • @bra1nsen
    @bra1nsen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!

  • @mbbag1980
    @mbbag1980 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome. How do you clean it when fouling accumulates?

  • @T3AWR3CKS
    @T3AWR3CKS 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder how hard it would be to maintain one of those. Tube and shell is relatively easy to maintain. Would be interesting to see how long it could last efficiently.

  • @panchonorthmann6408
    @panchonorthmann6408 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OMG I want to have a long ass brunch with this greek dude. I would be fascinated.

  • @doodskie999
    @doodskie999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine, printing engine or motors which you can direct fuel or other fuel flow to cool the motor, Just like how the rocket engines for NASA does. Less parts, lighter, more rigid. The possibilities are endless!

  • @LeprinhaGul
    @LeprinhaGul ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for a LTT video on this. Using this to cool a PC.

  • @sharifmowad627
    @sharifmowad627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any other applications? Can this be used as the core of any liquid-to-liquid exchanger. I was thinking commercial/residential geothermal heat exchangers.