Im curious: How do native Chinese kids learn to write in Chinese? From where they start? Like our process of learning -as Latin based writing- its much easier I can agree, no doubt.. I think they learn the strokes first* then the order and how to combine them to form different characters, right? I'm wondering how much it actually takes
Maybe I’m not the best person to ask that, since I grew up outside of China, but my parents taught my by just teaching basic strokes and then tracing them on a grid.
Verbally hearing the word, then seeing it write down in Chinese character (with the proper strokes). I think that's the most easier way to learn without romanization. Same way with Korean and Japanese. You should drop the romanization all together.
For pens I usually go for one the classic brands we have here in Germany Faber-Castell, Lamy, Schneider or Stabilo. They are usually good quality, while not being overly pricy (there are high end ones though). Don't know if you can get these in the US.
The Pilot G7 is what I use, purchased from Amazon in Oct. 2020 with Japan-made ink carts. As you mentioned, they write well and are inexpensive. Going to look into buying one of those Zebras because who doesn't love good writing pens? Thanks, nice video.
My favorite character is 愛 (meaning love/traditional version). I love its composition and feel like its easy on the eyes. It's not the easiest character, but not the hardest either, which means it's never boring to write. However, I don't like the simplified version because the heart (心) was ripped out. How sad...
So much pen-science... Meanwhile, me not caring so much as long as the pen actually works for its basic job of writing, and sometimes which is more often than I'd myself like# but can't really help myself -doodeling, but ofc for langs like Chinese & Japanese it matters Amazing video, thank you very much 😊
You can buy metal bodies for the Pentel EnerGel pens. If you are going to use that pen and plan on getting refills this is the only way to go because once you open the plastic EnerGel body a few times it won't stay closed without some tape. The EnerGel pens are my favorite for writing in English but I think I'm going to switch to something else for Chinese.
Personally I can't write with anything that feels even remotely fluid. I use pens that are as scratchy as possible! I like the control it gives me, and the feedback helps me remember characters better.
It's an excellent video and I'm ending up possibly buying some of these for my Mandarin and Wenzhounese Chinese courses. However, you forgot one pen, and that one pen is the matte black forest fountain pen with extra-fine nib, I really have to give a good thanks to this pen as its strokes are almost perfect on point for English and Chinese! Very good pen, a lot of other fountain pens are pretty good for usage too, however, they can be sloppy and you can get a lot of ink on your hand, however, if you treat a fountain pen finely, it will get better and less and less sloppy, hope you do a review on this pen as its a pretty good one, anyway I love the content you make, keep it up!
Can you make a video about how Chinese people write everyday notes, focusing on speed rather than beauty? Like, what does a shopping or to-do list stuck to a fridge look like? Or college students' lecture notes? Although, maybe everyone is just typing these things into apps on their phones, lol.
I am a huge energel fan and I really also like the Signo DX for fine point writing and I actually really like the Vision Elite Micro. But What do you have against PaperMate 🧐
omg thank you so much for this video my handwriting is actually disgusting with a biro so I’ve been looking for new pens to practice with before my hsk 3 exam, this was really helpful
I think the Japanese-made Pilot pens may have better ink for Chinese characters because the Japanese also write Chinese characters. It may just be market demand.
Generally speaking I like how sharpie pens write, then again I'm mostly writing in English. For most calligraphy I'll go for pilot although they have a problem of leaking ink onto your hand if they get too hot. I don't like zebra in general even their pencils are scratchy.
Watched this a month ago, getting of my lazy ass now to get some pens! I'm going to start with the classics, Mozi, Zhuangzi, Han Feizi, and I will practice with Lu Xun, my first read too :)
not long, there are very easy characters, 一 二 三 四 五 六 七 八 九 十 口 百 上 下 白 but, you do have to learn the correct order of writing your strokes, but 100 can be done within a month tbh.
bro you mentioned that these pen cost like 1$ that's like 55 for me but when I checked for the Pilot V pens, it cost like over 3,500.. that's like 63 times as much LoL
Have you ever tried using a fountain pen? My mother says that in her time China made the best fountain Pens in the market. Add on top of that the natural tendency of fountainpens to flex would make them ideal for writing chinese characters
Thanks for the review! Which one would you recommend for left-handed people that still makes the characters look nice? I'm always worried about ink smudging on my hand haha
I concur with Annie Zhang that the Pentel Energel is a great option for lefties, though if you want some other fast drying pen options that weren't included on this list, there is also the Zebra Sarasa Dry and the Zebra Sarasa Mark On (not the standard Zebra Sarasa pens though, those tend to smudge more, so I'd only go for the Dry and Mark On lines).
I've also heard that the Energel dries fast, but I don't know why mine doesn't😂 I just did a quick test and the Pilot Precise V5, Zebra G-301 and Sharpie S-Gel smudged the least...
I got a question for you, What is your Chinese name? Another one, Can you help me with my Chinese name? I chose one but I have to get the opinion of a real Chinese speaker. My Chinese name is 武恒屹 so what you think? Is it good or not?
Without a doubt you are the Mandarin guide on the Internet. Thanks for your consistently fine work.
You're too kind... I'm just a bloke on the internet who is also interested in Mandarin Chinese!
I am
Your character proportions all look so pretty and neat~
ever since your last pen video my hanzi writing has heavily improved! i also have my first chinese exam next saturday, wish me luck!
Awesome! Good luck on your exam😇
How did it went?
Im curious: How do native Chinese kids learn to write in Chinese? From where they start? Like our process of learning -as Latin based writing- its much easier I can agree, no doubt..
I think they learn the strokes first* then the order and how to combine them to form different characters, right? I'm wondering how much it actually takes
Maybe I’m not the best person to ask that, since I grew up outside of China, but my parents taught my by just teaching basic strokes and then tracing them on a grid.
Verbally hearing the word, then seeing it write down in Chinese character (with the proper strokes). I think that's the most easier way to learn without romanization. Same way with Korean and Japanese. You should drop the romanization all together.
从"一去二三里"开始
蛮喜欢那首诗的😂英文有一首One little monkey went to the store我小时候也是特爱
@Graecum Legitur I'm. Im glad it's in Spanish :) I can understand it :)
For pens I usually go for one the classic brands we have here in Germany Faber-Castell, Lamy, Schneider or Stabilo. They are usually good quality, while not being overly pricy (there are high end ones though). Don't know if you can get these in the US.
those are possible to get in the US… idk about other students, but lots of art students get the faber-castells and stabilos
Lamy is the fountain pen brand i see most in stores in the US
Does the perfect gel pen exist? Let me know your recommendations!
Awesome video!! I've never written Chinese characters in my life, but I stumbled upon this vid, and now I'm interested :)
I'm not even learning Chinese and I'm watching this, this is so good! I love his Chinese handwriting!
The Pilot G7 is what I use, purchased from Amazon in Oct. 2020 with Japan-made ink carts. As you mentioned, they write well and are inexpensive. Going to look into buying one of those Zebras because who doesn't love good writing pens? Thanks, nice video.
Could this count as penmanship? The neatness makes me feel overwhelmed!!! 好厉害
My favorite character is 愛 (meaning love/traditional version). I love its composition and feel like its easy on the eyes. It's not the easiest character, but not the hardest either, which means it's never boring to write.
However, I don't like the simplified version because the heart
(心) was ripped out. How sad...
I will use it in a future video😉
@@ABChinese I don't remember if you've already used 愛 or not, but feel free! That would be really nice to see!
But the Ai now got friendship~
It looks like a nice funny face with hat and a beautiful smile and the eyes looking happy and the legs wide opened
@@fredwu7169 friendzoned mb? 🤣
A really useful video - thank you for making it.
Thanks for this comprehensive review of pens. Very helpful.
You write so neatly!! Could you please make a video about improving your handwriting? My characters usually end up looking way too "boxy":/
Eventually I will! I want to take more time to perfect my handwriting first though;)
So much pen-science...
Meanwhile, me not caring so much as long as the pen actually works for its basic job of writing, and sometimes which is more often than I'd myself like# but can't really help myself -doodeling, but ofc for langs like Chinese & Japanese it matters
Amazing video, thank you very much 😊
You can buy metal bodies for the Pentel EnerGel pens. If you are going to use that pen and plan on getting refills this is the only way to go because once you open the plastic EnerGel body a few times it won't stay closed without some tape.
The EnerGel pens are my favorite for writing in English but I think I'm going to switch to something else for Chinese.
One of these days I'll buy a nice metal pen I can keep a long time, but I'm already spending so much money on pens 😂🥵
@@ABChinese The good thing about the Pentel EnerGel metal pens is they are only $5-$7 depending on where you buy them.
@@ABChinese hey, what's the cheapest kind of pen with what you could write Chinese in US?
sorry mb it was mentioned and I missed it
Where's the fountain pen?
Personally I can't write with anything that feels even remotely fluid. I use pens that are as scratchy as possible! I like the control it gives me, and the feedback helps me remember characters better.
Can you make a video trying the HSK 6? Would be nice to see your answers as native!
Btw... Great video! 🥰🖊️
It's an excellent video and I'm ending up possibly buying some of these for my Mandarin and Wenzhounese Chinese courses. However, you forgot one pen, and that one pen is the matte black forest fountain pen with extra-fine nib, I really have to give a good thanks to this pen as its strokes are almost perfect on point for English and Chinese! Very good pen, a lot of other fountain pens are pretty good for usage too, however, they can be sloppy and you can get a lot of ink on your hand, however, if you treat a fountain pen finely, it will get better and less and less sloppy, hope you do a review on this pen as its a pretty good one, anyway I love the content you make, keep it up!
Wow your Chinese handwriting look like a real Chinese character in my book
Did you tried Muji roller pen ? I really like it my first Chinese teacher loved it
Can you make a video about how Chinese people write everyday notes, focusing on speed rather than beauty? Like, what does a shopping or to-do list stuck to a fridge look like? Or college students' lecture notes? Although, maybe everyone is just typing these things into apps on their phones, lol.
All the more reason to compare fountain pens and inks!
I am a huge energel fan and I really also like the Signo DX for fine point writing and I actually really like the Vision Elite Micro. But What do you have against PaperMate 🧐
omg thank you so much for this video my handwriting is actually disgusting with a biro so I’ve been looking for new pens to practice with before my hsk 3 exam, this was really helpful
I think the Japanese-made Pilot pens may have better ink for Chinese characters because the Japanese also write Chinese characters. It may just be market demand.
me (worse writing than a 3 year old kindergartener): ahh yes just the video i need
Generally speaking I like how sharpie pens write, then again I'm mostly writing in English. For most calligraphy I'll go for pilot although they have a problem of leaking ink onto your hand if they get too hot. I don't like zebra in general even their pencils are scratchy.
I like to practice writing with the Prismacolor Premier (art marker), using the chiseled side.
Could you try a Pilot Frixion? please
Hi. Can you show us how to use fountain pens for hanzi writing? Thank you very much.
You should try Serve X-Berry Gel 0.5
how is this all combine together how much money are they
I have been having the same problem you are having with my Pilot G-2s. They have been skipping and inconsistent lately.
I'ma cry, that's gorgeous
Yay! Traditional Chinese characters! I know I'm going to get flack from a lot of people but traditional Chinese characters look so much better!
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Watched this a month ago, getting of my lazy ass now to get some pens! I'm going to start with the classics, Mozi, Zhuangzi, Han Feizi, and I will practice with Lu Xun, my first read too :)
What's your opinion on the Zebra Sarasa clip 1mm?
Precise V7 RT is no longer available.
I bought yesterday Pilot V7!!
I'm left handed so when I write with pins with very runny ink it smudges and gets all over my hand😆
You should try Zebra Sarasa
On it…
is pilot precise and pilot hi-tecpoint the same?
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@@ABChinese REALLY??? THANK YOU SO MUCH
Anyone tried uniball eye rollerballs? How is the result for micro and fine?
Awesome study ! 👍
What're your thoughts on brush pens? They're what I originally picked up to practice hanzi.
I’ve only tried one model so far, but I liked using pens better🤷
How long would you say it would take to learn and write the first 100 Characters?
not long, there are very easy characters, 一 二 三 四 五 六 七 八 九 十 口 百 上 下 白 but, you do have to learn the correct order of writing your strokes, but 100 can be done within a month tbh.
I don't really see much difference in the results from any of these pens, so which one is the cheapest and lasts longer ?
I would get the Bic Gelocity or Sharpie S-Gel. They're slightly cheaper but good gel pens!
bro you mentioned that these pen cost like 1$ that's like 55 for me but when I checked for the Pilot V pens, it cost like over 3,500.. that's like 63 times as much LoL
top quality review!
Have you ever tried using a fountain pen? My mother says that in her time China made the best fountain Pens in the market. Add on top of that the natural tendency of fountainpens to flex would make them ideal for writing chinese characters
I will soon!
Test fountain pens too
2 dollars haha not in France ... Thanks for the video!
Sakura Pigma Micron PN Pen - Blue
Thanks for the review! Which one would you recommend for left-handed people that still makes the characters look nice? I'm always worried about ink smudging on my hand haha
the pendel energel dries really fast
I concur with Annie Zhang that the Pentel Energel is a great option for lefties, though if you want some other fast drying pen options that weren't included on this list, there is also the Zebra Sarasa Dry and the Zebra Sarasa Mark On (not the standard Zebra Sarasa pens though, those tend to smudge more, so I'd only go for the Dry and Mark On lines).
I've also heard that the Energel dries fast, but I don't know why mine doesn't😂
I just did a quick test and the Pilot Precise V5, Zebra G-301 and Sharpie S-Gel smudged the least...
Thanks everyone for the info/suggestions! :)
Can't I just write Chinese with a standard mechanical pencil or pen?
yes you can. but the result will be somewhat better if we use gel-pen. it will looks more similar like written with brush.
I actually love to write fan ti rather than jian ti
I’m learning mandarin and I like it
My fav is 艾萨克 because it’s my name in Mandarin Chinese
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Instagram @_abchinese
Why trad?
I feel so happy and lucky that I won the ga :)
I got a question for you, What is your Chinese name?
Another one, Can you help me with my Chinese name? I chose one but I have to get the opinion of a real Chinese speaker. My Chinese name is 武恒屹 so what you think? Is it good or not?
Pilot pens are the best.
Hi-Tec-C ? 0.4 pt
I Have this all pen
Haa! Fengchan
很好用啊！
我草 这字写的是真好看
'水'字变冰.水↣永。水 变尿。水变 泉 。水变泳
Or; Try the difficult Chinese characters
I time trav’lled my’elf.
Piaoliang ❤😊
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你看得懂繁體字嗎
基本的看得懂😂，不过还有很多进步的余地
@@ABChinese 你可以推薦他們如果想學中文的話去華人網站多看看
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School pen