Proof Crows can use a vending machine. 3 years coming. better late than never? We have this Machine as a kit check out our web site: www.crowkit.com... Or EBay: www.ebay.com/i...
Did anybody else notice it seemed to be trying to put the coin down the hole without letting it go, then checkimg to see if food came it. Way to try to scam the system crowbro
2:17 I think that crow took that quarter to go show the others that this shiny thing can get you food. He actually came back with one more crow! And watched him try it. 3:08 The first crow explains how it works and jumps down to watch the new guy try. Notice how the second crow doesn't really get the whole coin drop thing at first. Then it works. First crow jumps back up like "I told you bro! I told you!" lol
Would be kinda neat to train crows to pick up trash in the same manor. Find garbage, bring it to a drop point, they eat. Clean the earth while employing em.
yeah, til they just go to the dump outside of town and take garbage and bring it into the city to dump in cans. lol. :P or steal from other garbage bins to fill the crow-related bins.
@@maggs131 Train the birds to drop it on the people who can't do it themselves. Give them little buckets they can fill with water somewhere and drop on litterers, if you can't toilet train them that is
This is hilarious and incredible. So what happens when we provide better food for more money? Will they develop tastes and save their quarters to bring to the "fancy" boxes? And will humans start trying to figure out what crows like, to try and attract more loose-change-gathering crows? What if ten years from now there are a series of brands, complete with eye catching logos and advertisements exclusively for crows? I don't know about you but I want to live in that world
Then there will be crow obesity from all the fancy McFeast boxes. There will be crow kingpins who force other birds and weaker crows to find coins for them. Eventually they'll start ganging up on and robbing people shaking tins for charity. Its a dystopia!
@@blahblahblahblah2837 Lol, that's how all societies work. Exchange rates will exist for 1000s of years, greed, racism, envy... a lot of things will exist as long as we have emotions, and that's okay :D Life is a Game of skill and chance.
You really should leave that out there without money and see if crows actually do bring you quarters. Not to try and make money, which is funny. But considering one of them took one of the quarters, it might recognize it as something worth keeping to get food later. Meaning if it sees food in there, but no quarters, it might find one later in like a gutter or something, and associate it with that machine, and bring it. It definitely wouldn't forget about the machine, these things remember where they hide thousands of different items over hundreds of miles for up to like 9 months or something. I think it would be an amazing experiment.
+Ch4oTiK We should introduce these to the public environment and instead of using coins we should replace it with garbage/rubbish so the crows clean the streets for us.
This type of thing actually involves a 4 step training process. First, the machine is made available, and it randomly gives out nuts. Second, once the crows are used to that, the machine stops giving out nuts, and requires a coin be put in (With coins regularly placed near the slot of the machine so crows will figure out how to get the machine to dispense food) Third, once the crows are used to that they start placing the coins farther away from the machine to encourage the crows to gather the money. Fourth, once they're used to that, they stop providing money at all, so the crows have to go out and find money to put into the machine.
I really like this example of tool use while foraging. If I were a Crow I wonder how far I would carry an unfamiliar shiny metallic disk of no previously apparent value for a reward. Would I ever decide it's worth getting my feathers wet and submerging my head in water to collect them? I've often seen humans throw them into the fountain in the city park.
@@4STEVEJOY34 do you have open source plans for this? Is it just a sensor at the end of the chute that turns an Archimedes screw and releases some treats when it is tripped?
I can imagine your coworker standing next to a vending machine, thumping the glass to get food until he accidentally one day knocks a coin into the slot - jumping away in fear as the machine fires to life, dropping a bag of chips into the dispenser
I'd never realized how smart birds were until I went to Boston, Mass... While walking down the road, I saw a chicken standing on the shoulder...just standing there... I wondered why it didn't cross the road...and then I heard it... The crow, flying high above, crying out its warning: "Cah..! Cah..! Cah..!!!"
Interesting machine. I think *people would also drop* coins into this machine, just to get the treats :-) We can build the same machine for the people and reward the people for dropping trash into the recycling bins :-)
Those already exist. There are systems at some grocery stores where if you return (qualified) bottles you receive a little money for each. They kind of look like washing machines you put the bottles into one by one and then it gives you a receipt of how much you earned that you redeem.
That is amazing. There's a TED talk on that as well. Be interesting if they found a quarter somewhere else, would they come back and use it.. Ravens are cool too
I ordered your kit and asked a "maker" friend to help me put it together ...He liked the idea so much he didn't wait for me ,but made one himself! I will look for you on facebook and send you my post.
I've started to train a crow, his name is Russell. When he squawks I give him a treat, now he waits for me to come outside. I'll check out the vending machine that would be a great thing to have.
Here's what I'm planning: 1. See-saw trigger mechanism using nothing but gravity, a pivot and the mass of the coin, i.e. pivots and levers 2. The arm swing and coin hole would be placed in the middle to simplify the design and line it up to the food chute, when the arm moves to the other side it will jolt the food down the chute. No electrical triggering required.
@@Lucian_Andries How dare you put them in the same sentence, comparing them to such trash! . . . Give the raccoons a break. they're bad, but they're not that bad
The neighbors must have better treats , as the crow took the quarter and left ! This is is awesome , my family had a crow he lived too 18 years . I loved that silly guy , he was comical and ornery !
I'm not sure which crow is more intelligent. The one that was doing all the work or the other crow who was trying to steal the nuts as soon as they were dispensed.
Do you have a blueprint for the building of the vending machine? Specifically, the mechansim inside? I have been unable to find one online and would love to build a couple.
Inquiring if it is possible to get the plans for the crow box feeder portion? I saw your original design on etsy and want to make one of these for my wife so badly, but I cannot figure out the portion that connects to the 2 liter bottle. Thank you for any help you can provide, and happy holidays!
I don't know if you've ever observed them closely, but it looks like you're dealing with only a single family group, or clan. Turns out, if you find intersecting territory, you can increase the exposure to different crows in your area. I currently am observing on a regular basis when I feed my local crow clans, something to the tune of nearly five to six different family groups, or clans, working in close order with an apparent hierarchy in the system of feeding. Junior members of the same family group generally recognize senior members and refuse to eat before these senior members do, but members from opposing families will often square off, or avoid interaction. A weaker clan's crows however often get bullied off of food. I have yet to identify how this is done, but I assume it has something to do with posture and initial body language and calls. A typical distinguishing mark or call that identifies higher-caste crows in the local system I've observed is their use of a long and low call. It sounds like "Waugh" stretched out over several yards of flight as higher-caste crows move to land among lower caste crows. It's apparent from the reaction of these crows that they do not challenge these other crows and will often back away from nearby food until the high-caste crows leave, and then they return to regular feeding. In the event you witness this... set out multiple feeders about five to ten feet apart. This is how I encourage lateral feeding of crows. Higher caste crows will generally get 'dibs' on more heavily desired or favored areas, so keep that in mind. If they get the idea that one machine gives out more than another, they may 'claim' that machine as their own.
Now, put actual quarters out there. and then lay quarters on the lawn for them to find. and then remove all the quarters. they will go around town LOOKING for quarters. dude in Scotland made millions doing this.
At the level of IQ that these guys have, I don't think he was mad, I have a feeling that he is heading to Vegas to hit the jackpot and then come back with enough to feed 7 generations here! So be prepare...
It looks like the site for the kit is down, if you're no longer going to sell kits, could provide a PDF scan of the kit assembly guide and also the BOM for the electronics and other parts?
@@4STEVEJOY34 First of all, than you very much for taking the time to reply to me and on top of for it being on a 8 year old video! Would it be possible to make the parts/STLs open source? or even the whole project? is it still possible to buy kits to an i extent? I have a interest electronics but have little to no clue about the parts themselves. Moreover, I was really intrigued about the electronic behind accepting the coin/object which I can assume then triggers another electrical mechanism in the build. But heck, I dont even know how to properly power the system without risk of getting shocked cause it looks like you AC powered it.
hello Mr. experimenter. I am curious to know if such experiment had been done? because if yes, then it would take years to conduct. below is the thought. since crows know the concept of currency, can a setup be made, in which everything they require will be made available through money. firstly money will be freely available , later on money will be available when they do something ( which we can create, like rotate a fan ) . after sometime is it possible that a economy of crows will be created? there can be limited amount of currency , how will crows behave? what will happen.
Wonderful synergy between humans and animals. This is one of the ways how Garry Garrison was imagining our future. I love the concept, and I'd like to kick the ass of a person who said it is unethical.
Did anybody else notice it seemed to be trying to put the coin down the hole without letting it go, then checkimg to see if food came it. Way to try to scam the system crowbro
They're fuckin smart as hell
Tiny politicians, is what they are!
Jack Kehres
Yeah little fucker tried to cheat the system lol got what he had coming too 😂
your even smarter than that crow..lol
Yea i saw that. He tested it
2:17 I think that crow took that quarter to go show the others that this shiny thing can get you food. He actually came back with one more crow! And watched him try it. 3:08 The first crow explains how it works and jumps down to watch the new guy try. Notice how the second crow doesn't really get the whole coin drop thing at first. Then it works. First crow jumps back up like "I told you bro! I told you!" lol
They're so smart, its awesome
They're too intelligent. After a while they're going to be trying to do this with dollar bills and expecting to get back their change
LMAO!!!! 😭
Their offspring will know how to get trail mix from shopping malls
Then theyll start using slugs picking up lost washers n whatnot lol
+John Myers:
Next they'll start robbing banks or small shops for some change... :)))
Next they'll start training other animals to get quarters
This video is from 2014. The crow took the quarter and invested in bitcoin. It's retired now, and owns a winery in Napa.
hahahahahaha
The crow wasn't mad, he was saving the quarter for later to come back when he was hungry again XD
he took the coin to save it for later so his friend couldent use it haha
That's what friends are for 😆
Would be kinda neat to train crows to pick up trash in the same manor. Find garbage, bring it to a drop point, they eat. Clean the earth while employing em.
yeah, til they just go to the dump outside of town and take garbage and bring it into the city to dump in cans. lol. :P or steal from other garbage bins to fill the crow-related bins.
Funny had the same idea years ago.
How about people clean up their own crap
@@maggs131 Train the birds to drop it on the people who can't do it themselves. Give them little buckets they can fill with water somewhere and drop on litterers, if you can't toilet train them that is
They did exactly that in this video th-cam.com/video/LJG3282QU4g/w-d-xo.html
This is hilarious and incredible. So what happens when we provide better food for more money? Will they develop tastes and save their quarters to bring to the "fancy" boxes? And will humans start trying to figure out what crows like, to try and attract more loose-change-gathering crows? What if ten years from now there are a series of brands, complete with eye catching logos and advertisements exclusively for crows? I don't know about you but I want to live in that world
This is one of the most amazing things I've read all day.
@ron marninks agreed.
And will crows startle humans to make them drop their change?
Then there will be crow obesity from all the fancy McFeast boxes. There will be crow kingpins who force other birds and weaker crows to find coins for them. Eventually they'll start ganging up on and robbing people shaking tins for charity. Its a dystopia!
@@blahblahblahblah2837 Lol, that's how all societies work. Exchange rates will exist for 1000s of years, greed, racism, envy... a lot of things will exist as long as we have emotions, and that's okay :D Life is a Game of skill and chance.
You really should leave that out there without money and see if crows actually do bring you quarters. Not to try and make money, which is funny. But considering one of them took one of the quarters, it might recognize it as something worth keeping to get food later. Meaning if it sees food in there, but no quarters, it might find one later in like a gutter or something, and associate it with that machine, and bring it. It definitely wouldn't forget about the machine, these things remember where they hide thousands of different items over hundreds of miles for up to like 9 months or something.
I think it would be an amazing experiment.
+Ch4oTiK Ah, noticed a few comments down that they do occasionally do it. That's pretty amazing.
+Ch4oTiK
They will use all the quarters up. Then it is up to them to get more.
+Ch4oTiK
We should introduce these to the public environment and instead of using coins we should replace it with garbage/rubbish so the crows clean the streets for us.
This type of thing actually involves a 4 step training process.
First, the machine is made available, and it randomly gives out nuts.
Second, once the crows are used to that, the machine stops giving out nuts, and requires a coin be put in (With coins regularly placed near the slot of the machine so crows will figure out how to get the machine to dispense food)
Third, once the crows are used to that they start placing the coins farther away from the machine to encourage the crows to gather the money.
Fourth, once they're used to that, they stop providing money at all, so the crows have to go out and find money to put into the machine.
+SMP 088 Dude that would be an awesome idea. Very nice.
"Oooooh...shiny..."
*flies away with the coin*
Unless the sensor is more sophisticated than it looks, this seems like a good way to end up with a box full of rocks.
Have never had any garbage at all put in.
I really like this example of tool use while foraging. If I were a Crow I wonder how far I would carry an unfamiliar shiny metallic disk of no previously apparent value for a reward. Would I ever decide it's worth getting my feathers wet and submerging my head in water to collect them? I've often seen humans throw them into the fountain in the city park.
That's almost an interesting prompt for a creative writing assignment.
15-20 feet is the best I was able to get them to care a quarter.
Did you have to first show them how it worked? Or did they figure it out by themselves?
@@4STEVEJOY34 do you have open source plans for this? Is it just a sensor at the end of the chute that turns an Archimedes screw and releases some treats when it is tripped?
Smarter than a lot of my co workers for sure.
I can imagine your coworker standing next to a vending machine, thumping the glass to get food until he accidentally one day knocks a coin into the slot - jumping away in fear as the machine fires to life, dropping a bag of chips into the dispenser
I'd never realized how smart birds were until I went to Boston, Mass...
While walking down the road, I saw a chicken standing on the shoulder...just standing there...
I wondered why it didn't cross the road...and then I heard it...
The crow, flying high above, crying out its warning: "Cah..! Cah..! Cah..!!!"
Interesting machine. I think *people would also drop* coins into this machine, just to get the treats :-)
We can build the same machine for the people and reward the people for dropping trash into the recycling bins :-)
epSos.de great idea
Those already exist. There are systems at some grocery stores where if you return (qualified) bottles you receive a little money for each. They kind of look like washing machines you put the bottles into one by one and then it gives you a receipt of how much you earned that you redeem.
@@trappedinapieshopwtf bro... You living in moneyland?
@@kakap0788 Yup, pretty sure those are present in literally any country ever, including mine. No idea why I wrote that.
For kids sweets indeed
they're trying to cheat it by putting their beaks in the vending machine to get some food
I am just so amazed at how smart these crows are!! Brilliant!
Man they returned to the machine like 2 seconds after he walked away this is great
So amazing! Gotta love videos that showcase how incredibly smart these birds are! Fantastic footage! Wow!
Please train them to pick pockets. And maybe even spy on people entering their PIN numbers at ATMs.
Like in the movie Paulie?
Thats what I really hope
PIN stands for person identification number so saying PIN number is redundant like saying personal identification number number
@@MeatMachine69 shuddup
@@floo1465 no thanks
I love birds! Having a pet crow or Raven sounds like it would be interesting to me.
This must be in Japan.....I hear they have vending machine for everything. Seriously, I wish I could give you a thousand likes. I love it!
That is amazing. There's a TED talk on that as well. Be interesting if they found a quarter somewhere else, would they come back and use it.. Ravens are cool too
Imagine the crows finding coins to put in the machine XD ILL BE RICH!!!!!!
To find million dollar bills... :D
I ordered your kit and asked a "maker" friend to help me put it together ...He liked the idea so much he didn't wait for me ,but made one himself! I will look for you on facebook and send you my post.
They are so clever, I really enjoyed this.
I've started to train a crow, his name is Russell. When he squawks I give him a treat, now he waits for me to come outside. I'll check out the vending machine that would be a great thing to have.
I wonder if they'll learn to store the coins for winter, so they can get food when it's more scarce? Crows are so smart!
Yeah, I bet they would.
holy shit...next level of evolution
Here's what I'm planning:
1. See-saw trigger mechanism using nothing but gravity, a pivot and the mass of the coin, i.e. pivots and levers
2. The arm swing and coin hole would be placed in the middle to simplify the design and line it up to the food chute, when the arm moves to the other side it will jolt the food down the chute.
No electrical triggering required.
Wow, they're gorgeous!
Absolutely.
Did they ever try to take the lid off of the machine so they could use it without paying?
Shaun Wild No. But, a racoon did and I had to put a lock on it.
Raccoons are worse than politicians!
lies
@@Lucian_Andries How dare you put them in the same sentence, comparing them to such trash!
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Give the raccoons a break. they're bad, but they're not that bad
The neighbors must have better treats , as the crow took the quarter and left !
This is is awesome , my family had a crow he lived too 18 years . I loved that silly
guy , he was comical and ornery !
Next step will be the crows franchising the boxes and putting them outside of carwashes and laundromats.
They've actually setup up things similar to this to get Crows to bring empty bottle caps off the road/street.
2:20 machine malfunction. Crows pick up remaining quarters and proceed to find a vending machine with bag of peanuts and diet Pepsi
The coin is special!! Hands out change etc.
I'm getting a real kick out of this video, thank you!!
I'm not sure which crow is more intelligent. The one that was doing all the work or the other crow who was trying to steal the nuts as soon as they were dispensed.
Try them with contactless credit cards.
Or just train them to find credit cards and drop them off
That opens up a whole new world of ideas to benefit mankind.
2 weeks later that guy made 20$ of profit.
Do you have a blueprint for the building of the vending machine? Specifically, the mechansim inside? I have been unable to find one online and would love to build a couple.
Love it . . . need one ( pigeons have caught on to my crow food)
And nobody believes me that the crow uprising is coming
Doesnt surprise me one bit, highly intelligent birds .
great way to have birds collect change and bring it there
I stuck some $50 notes on the window when i feed them lol hoping they will see the money in the winow when they get fed and just work it out lol.
Inquiring if it is possible to get the plans for the crow box feeder portion? I saw your original design on etsy and want to make one of these for my wife so badly, but I cannot figure out the portion that connects to the 2 liter bottle. Thank you for any help you can provide, and happy holidays!
I'm surprised crows haven't figure out real vending machines yet.
I want to build a crow vending machine. Different treats for different gifts.
Coins give one thing, jewelry another, trash offers something else.
There are places where crows are trained to pick up cigarette butts.
Aww man I felt sorry for the 2nd Crow, just standing there like "Bro you already had a turn, cmon!" then he just gave up and flew off lol
I don't know if you've ever observed them closely, but it looks like you're dealing with only a single family group, or clan. Turns out, if you find intersecting territory, you can increase the exposure to different crows in your area. I currently am observing on a regular basis when I feed my local crow clans, something to the tune of nearly five to six different family groups, or clans, working in close order with an apparent hierarchy in the system of feeding.
Junior members of the same family group generally recognize senior members and refuse to eat before these senior members do, but members from opposing families will often square off, or avoid interaction. A weaker clan's crows however often get bullied off of food. I have yet to identify how this is done, but I assume it has something to do with posture and initial body language and calls.
A typical distinguishing mark or call that identifies higher-caste crows in the local system I've observed is their use of a long and low call. It sounds like "Waugh" stretched out over several yards of flight as higher-caste crows move to land among lower caste crows. It's apparent from the reaction of these crows that they do not challenge these other crows and will often back away from nearby food until the high-caste crows leave, and then they return to regular feeding.
In the event you witness this... set out multiple feeders about five to ten feet apart. This is how I encourage lateral feeding of crows. Higher caste crows will generally get 'dibs' on more heavily desired or favored areas, so keep that in mind. If they get the idea that one machine gives out more than another, they may 'claim' that machine as their own.
Have you tried leaving it out with no coins to see if the birds actively went searching for coins to put in?
+Shaun Wild How long until they figure out they can stick anything in there and see if it works?
THIS IS THE BOX YA'LL!!
Just like humans. One guy does the work and everyone else tries to reap the rewards
You can give them a daily salary and they can buy their own food using the machine. I wonder if they will budget and save money to use for later.
That would be a fascinating experiment.
One of them did at 2:25
Flew away with the coin since the other crow kept trying to steal the food.
She doesn't want to drop the coin when the other crow can nab the food,
Took the club to get a coke or food later!
Soon it's gonna be crow planet.
Damn it bird, don't try to scam me!
I knew about this idea from a ted talk.
Aw man you should have the machine give generously
You can get crowd to fetch you loose change this way lmao.
Wooow amazing... i never thought stone walls still in use nowdays.
I took a busted up cement driveway, turned the pieces on edge and made a retaining wall.
this is crazy awesome, however, judging by the amount of food it holds, you could probably only earn what it costs to feed them.
I would be mad too if I had to use a vending machine like that.
Crows will learn to hack ATMs now for more quarters.
*I must harness this power*
The crow took the coin, because the vendor machine of the neighbors has better food :)
Now, put actual quarters out there.
and then lay quarters on the lawn for them to find.
and then remove all the quarters.
they will go around town LOOKING for quarters.
dude in Scotland made millions doing this.
Doesn't take long to pick up a pattern etc only after a time or two
The website no longer has anything crow related on it and has been spammed or something.
Crow: Cool, it gives foods. let's do it again
At the level of IQ that these guys have, I don't think he was mad, I have a feeling that he is heading to Vegas to hit the jackpot and then come back with enough to feed 7 generations here! So be prepare...
train them to get bills, then the town will be known for crows swooping down from the skies yoinking money.
This would be a great way to collect a few quarters a day for life insurance.
put some more quarters there man,
3:35 The bird tried to use the coin without dropping it before realizingthat doesn't work. If only it had a string tied to it lol
Now set it up near a fountain and watch to see if they figure out how to get the coins people throw in the water to feed their vending machine habit.
Impretty sure that crow will start robbing people to get the food outa that box lol
Good way to get them to pick up all the loose change around town and bring it to you. :D
or cigarette butts, or just trash in general
@@randall172
Let's train the humans to do that instead. ;)
One day, the coin tray will be emptied out and there'll be a pile of fake quarters made out of lino.
It looks like the site for the kit is down, if you're no longer going to sell kits, could provide a PDF scan of the kit assembly guide and also the BOM for the electronics and other parts?
That would not help as I invented and made 3D printed parts, that are crucial to the build.
@@4STEVEJOY34 First of all, than you very much for taking the time to reply to me and on top of for it being on a 8 year old video!
Would it be possible to make the parts/STLs open source? or even the whole project? is it still possible to buy kits to an i extent? I have a interest electronics but have little to no clue about the parts themselves.
Moreover, I was really intrigued about the electronic behind accepting the coin/object which I can assume then triggers another electrical mechanism in the build. But heck, I dont even know how to properly power the system without risk of getting shocked cause it looks like you AC powered it.
can you make a list of the electronics needed to make the insides?
What if we trained crows clean up cities for things like small trash?
They are not even chewing, how are they going to digest?
Have you tried them with credit cards?
hello Mr. experimenter. I am curious to know if such experiment had been done? because if yes, then it would take years to conduct. below is the thought.
since crows know the concept of currency, can a setup be made, in which everything they require will be made available through money. firstly money will be freely available , later on money will be available when they do something ( which we can create, like rotate a fan ) . after sometime is it possible that a economy of crows will be created? there can be limited amount of currency , how will crows behave? what will happen.
Crows aren't stupid. They will quit working when it isn't fun.
Where can I get a crow box?
And there are people who think that animals are not intelligent? In your face!
Omg thats sooo nice to watch :D
he could be super smart / forward planning, and be going to cache the quarter like food but safer from other less informed hungry mouths; bird banking
Seems only one crow working; the others mooching?
Wonderful synergy between humans and animals. This is one of the ways how Garry Garrison was imagining our future. I love the concept, and I'd like to kick the ass of a person who said it is unethical.
It looked like the dispenser didn't always work
62 million in change throw away every year in the us ...
I could see this as a money making operation except, will they know where to look for coins elsewhere?
We'll have to wait and see
How smart!