I'm a current Air Force Security Forces member and it's amazing to watch this and realize that no matter how things change, they stay the same. This video highlights how much the world has certainly changed. The threats are much different, and to recognize how they have changed our posture and procedures is eye-opening.
We were trained in LE now the SF guys just have an over view of it they hired civilians in dark blue uniforms to do the LE job now in our day we handled everything our selves
WILD! Jim Allison here! I never knew this existed or was even even made. I was at Kirtland from 1987 to 89. A1C Dawn Gruber was my first supervisor when I got to Kirtland in June of 1987 (she was a SSGT then), she was so cool. RIP TSGT Mike Mike Carbajal.
Flight Chief in the beginning of the video performing an inspection at Guardmount is TSgt. Mike Carbajal. Best Flight Chief ever! May you Rest in Peace Mike. 1606th SPG/ LE side.
Thank you for this video. It brought back a lot of memories. I became an Air Force Law Enforcement Specialist in 1985, which seems to be around the time this was filmed, from the patrol cars, weapons, etc.--same ones I used when I first came in. Never been to Kirtland AFB where this was apparently filmed, but LE policies and procedures didn't vary that much from base to base.
@@anointedpianoplayer kirtland was a terrible place to be no matter what haha, now i’m AGR in the reserves in LA getting paid way more and pretty much get treated like a civilian. it’s great. sometimes i do miss it though.
I was an SP/LE 79’-99’. We creased our cotton uniforms, shined our boots & low quarters with Kiwi & a cotton ball, wore actual leather gear (not lite weight nylon), carried a Motorola radio “brick” (because it was the size of and weight of an actual brick), worked a gate the size of a telephone booth (no water fountain or toilet) and drive motor pool leftovers until 81’-82’ time frame (first patrol vehicle was a 76’ Ford Maverick, dark blue with “Security Police” on the light bar. It was Mayberry revisited. But you know, those were the best times of my life. Today’s Security Forces are SPOILED in comparison…progress is a good thing. Be safe, “Defenders”! 🇺🇸✌🏻 Tom
I was an SP at Kirtland 78 - 80 so I was working Manzano guarding the nukes. One day the L Es set up radar on the road going to Manzano to catch SPs speeding going to work. This L E flight seams a little small for Kirtland it’s a huge base. On Manzano we had about 70 SPs on a flight. As far as the mention of pot the cops were the biggest offenders What year is this filmed?
It seems the lady cops wear their badge on the other side, I was thinking they wear them on the left like regular Police who all have their badge on the left side.
So, the video leaves out the part where the off-going shift is waiting to hear the magic words over the radio: "guard mount broke".... usually sitting in a parking lot near the armory....
Bogus narrative regarding funds escort. He backs up and allows the bank employee to drive the funds to the exchange. He never discusses the route with the bank employee, but he states that he is going to take an alternate route today.
I was a skycop during this period. Kirkland always got great equipment.The rest of the Air Force, not so much. I remember being in SAC in 1970. Our reserve Security Alert Team vehicle (in support of nuclear weapons) was a 1964 Ford pickup. It had two working gears. Second and third. No first gear. No reverse. The cops always got the crappiest vehicles. We probably deserved it.
I completly understand. I can remember my flight chief telling me that when I was doing building checks, if I found a building unlocked, I should not call it in on the radio. Instead, I should call the SP desk on the phone from the facility.
10:21: "Patrol 1" is a buck sergeant. Patrol 1 is always the flight chief. Patrolman calls in using mixture of international and US police phonetic language. Bogus.
I'm a current Air Force Security Forces member and it's amazing to watch this and realize that no matter how things change, they stay the same. This video highlights how much the world has certainly changed. The threats are much different, and to recognize how they have changed our posture and procedures is eye-opening.
Funny to see the 1408 doesn't look like it was changed at all
How about those blues? We looked good.
@@williambowdoin364 Darned right we did. I was LE from 1976-84.
We were trained in LE now the SF guys just have an over view of it they hired civilians in dark blue uniforms to do the LE job now in our day we handled everything our selves
WILD! Jim Allison here! I never knew this existed or was even even made. I was at Kirtland from 1987 to 89. A1C Dawn Gruber was my first supervisor when I got to Kirtland in June of 1987 (she was a SSGT then), she was so cool.
RIP TSGT Mike Mike Carbajal.
Flight Chief in the beginning of the video performing an inspection at Guardmount is TSgt. Mike Carbajal. Best Flight Chief ever! May you Rest in Peace Mike. 1606th SPG/ LE side.
He was a good guy for sure, RIP! Dawn Gruber was my first supervisor when I got to Kirtland in June of 1987.
Wonder how it felt to live in the 80’s, must’ve been wonderful
Truly it was
Thank you for this video. It brought back a lot of memories. I became an Air Force Law Enforcement Specialist in 1985, which seems to be around the time this was filmed, from the patrol cars, weapons, etc.--same ones I used when I first came in. Never been to Kirtland AFB where this was apparently filmed, but LE policies and procedures didn't vary that much from base to base.
I Was LE from 1979-1983 at Bolling AFB, and Mather AFB. Brings back memories.
Was a SAC cop back in 78-81 Fairchild AFB in Washington state
Thanks for a very rare video of SP LE. Reminds me of my time in the late 80s to early 90s.
Thst was a blast from the past. I was in 88-92. Very cool.
Wow, I was LE at Kirtland just a few years ago. Really cool to see the heritage. Also, some of those places are still there… it’s an old base
i was at the W up until last year.
@@japonte173did 6 years at the W before LE. LE side was way better
@@anointedpianoplayer kirtland was a terrible place to be no matter what haha, now i’m AGR in the reserves in LA getting paid way more and pretty much get treated like a civilian. it’s great. sometimes i do miss it though.
@@anointedpianoplayer LE was better. Was there from 1987 to 89.
@@japonte173 I enjoyed my time there.
I was LE from 1983-88, we never had a traffic vest at any of the Bases I was stationed at
Interesting video, love seeing old video
Thanks for finding and sharing. I think I hear a faint Dragnet theme in the background.
I was an SP/LE 79’-99’. We creased our cotton uniforms, shined our boots & low quarters with Kiwi & a cotton ball, wore actual leather gear (not lite weight nylon), carried a Motorola radio “brick” (because it was the size of and weight of an actual brick), worked a gate the size of a telephone booth (no water fountain or toilet) and drive motor pool leftovers until 81’-82’ time frame (first patrol vehicle was a 76’ Ford Maverick, dark blue with “Security Police” on the light bar. It was Mayberry revisited. But you know, those were the best times of my life. Today’s Security Forces are SPOILED in comparison…progress is a good thing. Be safe, “Defenders”! 🇺🇸✌🏻 Tom
I’m just here to see if there are any, “Back when I was in SAC…” comments. Old timers seem to love talking about that. Haha
Is there a part 2
I was an SP at Kirtland 78 - 80 so I was working Manzano guarding the nukes. One day the L Es set up radar on the road going to Manzano to catch SPs speeding going to work. This L E flight seams a little small for Kirtland it’s a huge base. On Manzano we had about 70 SPs on a flight.
As far as the mention of pot the cops were the biggest offenders What year is this filmed?
Shipping out in 2 weeks for this
This is Kirtland AFB.
Yeppers! I was there from 1987 to 89. A1C Dawn Gruber was my first supervisor when I got to Kirtland in June of 1987 (she was a SSGT then)..
I was there 2010-2017. Most buildings I can make out from patrolling
White crew neck t-shirts with open collar blues...this is definitely old school Air Force.
It seems the lady cops wear their badge on the other side, I was thinking they wear them on the left like regular Police who all have their badge on the left side.
12:16: Patrolman asks for driver's license, but not military ID card, registration and proof of insurance.
He did hand him ba k his driver's license and I'd card though.
Insurance not required in the day
9:59: Female patrol person gets out of vehicle to conduct building check. No portable radio on person. Bogus.
Give me a break. I was a skycop for 20 years. Three tech sergeants on flight? No way.
So, the video leaves out the part where the off-going shift is waiting to hear the magic words over the radio: "guard mount broke".... usually sitting in a parking lot near the armory....
Gotta love Kirtland
This is awesome. I came in way, way after… (2010) but it’s sweet to see how retro this is. Revolvers, sweet patrol cars, etc… The modern-era is meh…
I see a lot of pizza man berets
Bogus narrative regarding funds escort. He backs up and allows the bank employee to drive the funds to the exchange. He never discusses the route with the bank employee, but he states that he is going to take an alternate route today.
There was no weapons safety or vehicle safety briefing. Big No-No!
I was a skycop during this period. Kirkland always got great equipment.The rest of the Air Force, not so much. I remember being in SAC in 1970. Our reserve Security Alert Team vehicle (in support of nuclear weapons) was a 1964 Ford pickup. It had two working gears. Second and third. No first gear. No reverse. The cops always got the crappiest vehicles. We probably deserved it.
I was stationed at Warren AFB in the late 60's! We didn't get what we needed most of the time. I was glad to be assigned to Viet Nam.
I completly understand. I can remember my flight chief telling me that when I was doing building checks, if I found a building unlocked, I should not call it in on the radio. Instead, I should call the SP desk on the phone from the facility.
Bogus use of traffic radar. Patrolmen stayed in their vehicle when using the speedgun.
I knew a guy who, with a portable battery pack, climbed a tree and ran radar on one of the main drags where I was!
How come the word "police" isn't used anywhere in the occupation's name like military police in the Army or Marines?
Everything was changed after the Khobar Towers incident. They combined LE & Security and decided to go with the name we know now.
I like that sp in USA and alaska
10:21: "Patrol 1" is a buck sergeant. Patrol 1 is always the flight chief. Patrolman calls in using mixture of international and US police phonetic language. Bogus.