Age of Aisha (RA) - Part 1 | Mohammed Hijab
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Pls give me a answer of Mathew 21 16. People are saying that Jesus is god
@@MohammadAbdullah-vh9ll
Can you explain their argument? I read the verse and it doesn’t say Jesus is God.
From Mohammad's own words when he was asked about whom to marry as he was riding a camel, "Marry young girls so you can play with them". Either Mohammad plays with dolls, pees like a girl and wear girls clothes, (which is weird), or it's a different kind of play.
I remind: islam allows liyng. Christ akbar!
Bro spend almost one hour trying to defend child abuse lmao.
With 1 question you can send his speach to the toilet:
According to allah, in 2023 is it ok for a 50 years old to marry a 6 years old and consume the marriage when she's 9?
How can they defend the indefendable lmao 😂 it must be hard to have to defend islam haha
*Age of Aisha Part 1 | Mohammad Hijab*
0:00:00 Introduction
0:04:57 Responding to the Jews
0:12:58 Responding to the Christians
0:23:02 Responding to Atheists
0:27:30 Analyzing the Hadiths
0:32:23 Hadith of Aisha (RA) Playing With Dolls
0:42:26 Answering a Counter Question
0:44:24 Outro
Barakallahu feekum
Why was she playing with dolls?
Because the prophet (pbuh) came to visit her father often.
Come on people.
Stop gossipping about private matters like sex. They did this when she lost her necklace. Don't let the hypocrites who love to gossip make you continue this behaviour.
Mind your business.
@@yesihavereadit what was life expectancy 1000 years ago you ignoramus
Jazakallahu Khairan!
Sahih Bukhari 5133, Narrated `Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).
'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 236)
As for whether a child of 9 yrs is physically or mentally capable of a sexual relationship, I would like to bring to your attention this article.
Average Height to Weight Chart -Female Babies to Teenagers
Conclusion:
9 yrs av weight 62.0 lb (28.1 kg), av height 52.5" (133.3 cm)
20 yrs av weight 128.0 lb (58.0 kg) av height 64.3" (163.3 cm)
The difference in weight between a 20yr woman and 9 yr girl = 29.9 kg, 65.9 lb
The difference in height between a 20 yr woman and a 9 yr girl = 30cm, 11.8”
What does this info mean?
The average 9yr old girl is NOT ready for sex, why? She has not developed into an adult physically and mentally.
Tell us why does a man marry a woman?
1/ Because he falls in love?
2/ Because he finds her personality to his liking and likes talking and discussing with her, companionship?
3/ Because he wants to have a family?
The truth is Muhammad could not do any of these things with Aisha, why? Because she was a child, too young for love, too young for companionship, to young to have a family
So why did Muhammad want a 9 yr old bride? Could it be he was a pedophile?
There have always been men marrying very young girls, yes that’s right.
But keep in mind that Muhammad is said to be the perfect example for all Muslim men to follow
and it is discovered that he was, a pedophile.
Hence millions of young girls are married and raped at an early age within Islam.
This is the legacy of the Muhammad-Aisha marriage.
It is wildly inappropriate for a 53yr old man to be in a sexual relationship with a 9-year-old girl.
Most of whom arguing did not watched it
The age of Aisha (RA) argument is so bad, not only are their arguments committing logical fallacies (the ones they love to use 😂) but there's so much to protect the Prophet Muhammad (SAW) with it's insane to see people still use it to this day
Can name a single fallacy that has been commited and point out where exactly that it happened?
@@elite7329 I'm not saying Mohammad Hijab is committing any fallacies, I'm saying the argument that the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is a bad person simply because he married and had intercourse with someone under 18 or 16 would fall under Presentism, saying that we should also be marrying children cause the Prophet did so would fall under anachronism, since the marriage was only supposed to be done in such times not ours, would also be committing affirming the consequent fallacy because you simply lead to that conclusion that he is a bad person without opening up the room for the reasons of such marriage at such time.
It is normal in their time
Till 1980 people married young as 12 or 14
U are deluded
@@manofwar2354 Yes but we are in 2023
@@thibzlatanp729 so ?till today the british goverment give contraceptives pills to 10 years old girl f7cking in school
Lmao
She was one of the greatest blessings for this umma
PDO
@@Despisefrauditors-bj6sfnice regurgitation technique
@@Notreallyhereanymore Lovely marriage, in holy matrimony.
@@Despisefrauditors-bj6sf yes
@@Despisefrauditors-bj6sfdid you even watch this video? 😭 😭
Is he the same guy who said that Islam does NOT prohibit marrying prepubertal baby girls ?
He said that rejecting Hadith can lead you to such conclusions if you take the Quran out of context. I’ve seen some scholars disagree with him, but you have to represent his claims fairly at least.
@@user-ib9of6dm5n why would I want to represent his claim 😂😂 No sane person would stand with marriage of minor girls 🤷♀️
@@user-tz9hu9on5x You just admitted youre willing to lie about him 💀
Nice bot
@@Wartenss I didn’t. Re-read.
It was narrated that 'Aishah said:
"The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls."
Grade: Sahih (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan an-Nasa'i 3378
You should put a link of yaqeeninstitute articlename --> The Age of Aisha (ra): Rejecting Historical Revisionism and Modernist Presumptions (by Asadullah Ali). Its clarifying, for anyone interested (or confused) in this topic, you can read it in 10 minutes.
I didnt watch it is only hadith believe.
Like thrinking camel urine hadith ore like more fahsai things and things are not in the kuran.
@@yesihavereadit YES for people who want to read it in a straightforward way, explained differently but same answer, why are u so mad?
@LeoMessi_22 it's not only life expectancy, but child mortality rates very high back then, so people needed to start families young in order to have a chance of having surviving children.
Assalamualaikum Great video brother. Brother can you make a video on the terminologies that you use while debating or discussion.
I think a video on the concept of “cousin marriage” should be addressed. This is another objection non-muslims make against Islam to make it seem “backwards” and “primitive”.
Answer to that is pretty simple. Islam for example allows sugar. Too much will result in diabetes health problems etc. Likewise cousin marriage when its One-off consanguineous relationship it leads to a slight increase in the risk of genetic defects. As the incidence of many of these defects is very low anyway, the absolute risk still remains low. Since risk is low its permissable.
If it is continuous then its not recommended in islam.Imam Ghazali (citing Sayyidina Umar, no less) have cautioned against excessiveness in this - precisely because it ‘weakens the offspring.’ [Ghazali: Ihya XII]
Its not non muslims but a subset of non nuslims and in every age and in every culture they all have thier own objections, before the pagans and till into the future, so many endless criteria that islam has to bend over backwards to answer the doubts of people who have soaked up false meta physical assumptions about how things should be, I am sick of this every damn culture thinking its the best, every generation thinking its advanced, screw them all, things have gotten worse and the conformity to false assumptions is a rampant disease and I am sick of holding on to try pleas people on their damned false assumptions
It’s backwards if you Think genetically, you live in a world where you can fly around the world in 30 hours, you don’t need to mess around with your cousins -
Many Muslim genetics to pick from, back then it was situational. They have an App in Iceland that people use that track their lineage so when they are on a date they track each other’s lineage so they don’t intermarry, go there lol
cousin marriage is not an islamic concept lad
@@Erumyr How is it backwards genetically?
I truly appreciate the amazing video, if possible would you please do a video explaining the situation of working women in Islam and the dynamic of women working in the modern era, is there an islamic preference with or against women working.
Thank you in advance
I will just say that the need for a 2-part video totalling 1h30m is enough to show that there is no simple justification for Aisha, and enough to suggest that you just beat around the bush in that video without answering the question. Convert, Mohammed.
Yes, I thank you brother Hijab for clarifying my question! I thought it was ignored but Allah made this possible. Jazakallah Khayr wa Ahsanul Jaza
I read that muhammed thighed ayesha at the age of 6, and masturbated on her. Muhammed didnt even knew about his death. Atleast moses and jesus knew
BarakAllahu Feekum 🤍🖤
Very good video, but there is a great lack of source material being referenced and provided, especially when one quotes rabbinical texts, or Hadiths/quranic texts.
Presentism is what makes these arguements agsinst the marriage weaker. Avoid looking at hitsorical events and kaws through modern lenses
Honestly don't care what her Age was , be it 9 when the marriage was consummated , be it 17-18 , the fact was it was an Arabian culture and spread across all tribes and religions back then. Even his detractors , his critiques , the worst of the lot didn't raise an issue about this.
Anyhow , still looking ahead to watch your video , to be more aware to be more thankful and appreciative of your effort. May God increase you in knowledge and manners.
The most reasonable reason one can give ....let's not be involved in stuff that won't harm us nor benefit us ...just to give prove to the people who are gonna find some new flaw in Islam anyways....at the end they would believe whatever they want so let's believe what we should....
The best way out of it is to learn more about prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him) and our mother A'isha's relationships !!
MashaAllah. Nice to see your strong stance. We do not judge by the modern liberal standards. Period.
Her age per se doesn't matter but knowing if she had hit puberty yet is something worth knowing
I fully concur. That's as far as I'll take it. It was a common practice for the people of that time not just in arabia, but in almost all corners of the world. Period
@@yesihavereadit how about you clean your filthy mind and take a good look at yourself before lecturing others.
I hope Allah swt give health and hapyness to brother Hijab and to all of us..
lol
Mohammad Hijab told someone to kill themself a year and a half ago. He has done some pretty terrible things.
What a religion, having to constantly lie to cover up the vile behaviour of Momo.
That's a nice thought, but it's completely off-topic.
Ameen
Im an islamophobe & i want to thank mohijab for posting this video so that i can better formulate my arguments to win debates
Well, You cannot win debates when you're debating who's right tho
In your dreams islamophobe
@@abaadam578 i never heard a good defense from muslims for muhammads marriage with aisha
@@la8076Me neither but maybe today that'll change.
@@sia9907 he did have a point about the consequentually wrong & categorically wrong argument but i aleady updated my own argument for that specific tactic
He did end up using a mistranslated hadith about aisha having been pubescent which was surprising since thats either a rookie mistake or a dishonest tactic
May Allah protect you
Lol funny educating discussion. Enjoyed and benefited alot
What a religion, having to constantly lie to cover up the vile behaviour of Momo.
@Rod of Discipline Theres no lies, its called contextualised explanation
@@MohammadQasim
Islam has a very serious problem; it has told so many Iies that it is tangled in its own Iies.
Islam is controlled by Scholars whose job is to perpetuate Islam and to back up Muhammad.
After Mo’s demise, the Islamic scholars had to sell Islam to the new generations; the thought of their prophet being very unsavoury was not a good selling point. Hence Mo needed some good public relations.
Mo had already set the stage for this; his Koran is salted with constant references to his excellent moral character. One of the verses recited in the five daily prayers extols Mo’s excellence.
The scholars simply built on these so-called good points and embellished them until Mo was perfect, the best man to have ever lived.
With the 1000s of scholars working tirelessly for centuries compounding deception upon deception, we now have a religion that firmly floats on a rafter of deception.
They cherry-picked only the ahadith that say positive things, and fabricated many.
Now that we have access to the ahadith, we see the true Mo; this has sent their scholars into a frenzy of covering up, twisting, and bending the truth, and sadly, the average Muslim is deceived. The blind fanaticism of Islam continues.
Mo’s vices are hidden that deep in the deceit of Islam that they no longer exist.
The problem these modern scholars have is that they rely 100% on what former scholars have fabricated, they never think to go back to the authentic sources and do a critical deep dive.
Hence Islam is left with the blind leading the blind.
MashaAllah Jazakallahu khayr
I read that muhammed thighed ayesha at the age of 6, and masturbated on her. Muhammed didnt even knew about his death. Atleast moses and jesus knew
Question how come when I read the Hadith in Arabic of Asha attaining puberty it mentions nothing of her reaching puberty in the Arabic translation instead it uses the word أَعْقِلْ meaning she is mentally mature or wise or sane
Jazaa kAllahu khairah fid daarain
Historical analysis of the novel:
1. Calculating the age of Lady Aisha in relation to her sister Asma bint Abi Bakr (also known as Asma with the Two Waistbands): All the aforementioned historical sources unanimously state that Asma was older than Aisha by 10 years. These sources also consistently report that Asma was born 27 years before the migration to Medina, which means she was 14 years old when the Prophet's mission began in the year 610 CE. This calculation is based on subtracting 13 years (the period of the Prophet's preaching in Mecca) from her age before the migration (27 - 13 = 14 years). Since all sources confirm that Asma was 10 years older than Aisha, it can be deduced that Aisha was 4 years old when the Prophet's mission began in Mecca. This means she was born 4 years prior to the commencement of the revelation, which was in the year 606 CE. Based on this simple calculation, it is evident that when the Prophet married Aisha in Mecca during the tenth year of his mission, she was 14 years old (4 + 10 = 14 years). In other words, Aisha was born in the year 606 CE, and she married the Prophet in the year 620 CE when she was 14 years old. As mentioned, the consummation of their marriage took place three years later, a few months towards the end of the first year of the migration, which was in the year 624 CE.
نقد الرواية تاريخيا:
1 - حساب عمر السيدة (عائشة) بالنسبة لعمر أختها (أسماء بنت أبى بكر-ذات النطاقين-): تقول كل المصادر التاريخية السابق ذكرها إن (أسماء) كانت تكبر (عائشة) بـ(10) سنوات, كما تروى ذات المصادر بلا اختلاف واحد بينها, أن (أسماء) ولدت قبل الهجرة للمدينة بـ (27) عاما, ما يعنى أن عمرها مع بدء البعثة النبوية عام (610م) كان (14) سنة, وذلك بإنقاص من عمرها قبل الهجرة (13) سنة وهى سنوات الدعوة النبوية فى مكة, لأن (27-13= 14سنة), وكما ذكرت جميع المصادر بلا اختلاف أنها أكبر من (عائشة) بـ (10) سنوات, إذن يتأكد بذلك أن سن (عائشة )كان (4) سنوات مع بدء البعثة النبوية فى مكة, أى أنها ولدت قبل بدء الوحى بـ (4) سنوات كاملات, وذلك عام (606م), ومؤدى ذلك بحسبة بسيطة أن الرسول عندما نكحها فى مكة فى العام العاشر من بدء البعثة النبوية كان عمرها (14) سنة, لأن (4+10=14 سنة), أو بمعنى آخر أن (عائشة) ولدت عام (606م), وتزوجت النبى (620م), وهى فى عمر (14) سنة وأنه كما ذُكر بنى بها-دخل بها- بعد (3) سنوات وبضعة أشهر» أى فى نهاية السنة الأولى من الهجرة وبداية الثانية، عام (624م), فيصبح عمرها آنذاك (14+3+1= 18سنة كاملة), وهى السن الحقيقية التى تزوج فيها النبى الكريم (عائشة).
I just LOVE the mental contortions!!
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4:36 what exactly is the difference both definitions which he stated himself both have to do with holding a standard for people before us. I might’ve missed something but Both terms equaled the same meaning so idk
You see the issue with the defense argument of people saying “That’s just how things were done back in the day” means that Mohammed himself is just a regular flawed man, not to be revered as a prophet
Talmud says the minimum age to marry a girl is 3-year old while the Bible praises Moses for taking young unmarried women and children of Midian as properties for his army.
And they have the audacity to trash talk on the marriage of Aisha (ra)? It's not their eyes that are blind but their hearts.
Where does it say that?
@@tobyadowye5537
• *This is what the Talmud says:*
_"A girl who is _*_three years and one day old,_*_ whose father arranged her betrothal, _*_is betrothed through intercourse,_*_ as the halakhic status of intercourse with her is that of intercourse in all halakhic senses. And in a case where the childless husband of a girl three years and one day old dies, if his brother the yavam engages in intercourse with her, he acquires her as his wife; and if she is married, a man other than her husband is liable for engaging in intercourse with her due to violation of the prohibition against intercourse with a married woman. And if she is impure due to menstruation, she imparts impurity to one who engages in intercourse with her who then renders impure all the layers of bedding beneath him, rendering them impure like the upper bedding covering a zav, in the sense that it assumes first-degree ritual impurity and does not become a primary source of ritual impurity, and it renders impure food and drink, but it does not render impure people and vessels. If she marries a priest, she may partake of teruma, like any other wife of a priest; if she is unmarried and one of the men who are unfit for the priesthood, e.g., a mamzer or ḥalal, engaged in intercourse with her, he disqualifies her from marrying into the priesthood, and if she is the daughter of a priest, she is disqualified from partaking of teruma. Finally, if one of all those with whom relations are forbidden, as stated in the Torah, e.g., her father or her husband’s father, engaged in intercourse with her, they are executed by the court for engaging in intercourse with her, and she is exempt, because she is a minor. If the girl is less than that age, younger than three years and one day, the status of intercourse with her is not that of intercourse in all halakhic senses; rather, it is like placing a finger into the eye. Just as in that case, the eye constricts, sheds tears, and then returns to its original state, so too, in a girl younger than three years and one day old, the hymen returns to its original state."_ *_(Niddah [5]:4)_*
• *And this is what the Bible says:*
_"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him._
_But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."_
*_(Numbers [31]:17-18)_*
@@yesihavereadit
The problem is, being an atheist, we can't tell which one is right or wrong because we don't have a divine scripture as our moral guidance and instead we depend on our human assumptions to assume which one is moral and isn't.
Christian’s don’t follow Moses’ ways though, they only follow Christs.
@@shuddup3618
That is still the problem, since Christ endorses the Law of Moses as what he said in *_Matthew (5):17._*
Is this old vid copied & uploaded or recorded few days ago??
Its new i havent seen this one before
JazakAllahu khairan.
The youngest royal bride was Isabella of Valois, who was aged just six when she became the second wife of Richard II in 1396. Eleanor of Castile married Edward I of England at age 10.
Nobody in the west today is regarding Richard II as the Perfect Man sen by God as an example of how to conduct life, we regard him as disgusting and we dont care what was the norm of that time. You can not say the same, and that is very disturbing,
Bethroal is not the same as marriage, and the average age of a women in the West in medieval times was around 22
ow were they holy prophets who's lives you're supposed to imitate? nice try tho, smartass.
@@PetritAhmeti There are plenty of medieval christian saints that are considered imoral today. St Olaf for example.
You like smart ass? Isn’t the male buttock forbidden fruit for you?
What does king Richard II and Isabella have to do with Muhammd 54 aisha 6 ? Explain ? Tu Quoque fallacy makes it worse bud
When Muslims spesk , lies come forth
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حَدَّثَنَا مُعَلَّى بْنُ أَسَدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا وُهَيْبٌ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، أَنَّ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم تَزَوَّجَهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ، وَبَنَى بِهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ تِسْعِ سِنِينَ. قَالَ هِشَامٌ وَأُنْبِئْتُ أَنَّهَا كَانَتْ عِنْدَهُ تِسْعَ سِنِينَ.
حَدَّثَنِي عُبَيْدُ بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو أُسَامَةَ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ تُوُفِّيَتْ خَدِيجَةُ قَبْلَ مَخْرَجِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم إِلَى الْمَدِينَةِ بِثَلاَثِ سِنِينَ، فَلَبِثَ سَنَتَيْنِ أَوْ قَرِيبًا مِنْ ذَلِكَ، وَنَكَحَ عَائِشَةَ وَهْىَ بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ، ثُمَّ بَنَى بِهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ تِسْعِ سِنِينَ.
Married at 6 and consummated at 9. It’s not up for debate.
When is part two coming out brother hjab????
I didnt watch it is only hadith believe.
Like thrinking camel urine hadith ore like more fahsai things and things are not in the kuran.
Justification of having six with 9 year olds is crazy.
Nobody justify it , it was the norm of allmost all cilizasations on earth
Why didn't Muhammad know it was going to be unacceptable ?
Six with prepuberty 9 year old is crazy.
@@juice610 its crazy if you doesnt history
You virtue signal, but will you be able to find a society anywhere on earth where this was “illegal”thousands of years ago?
Arthur Siccan Author of the Book: ‘What’s Wrong in America: A Look at Troublesome Issues in Our Country’, goes in a lot of detail on the issue of marriage at earlier times,
“Traditionally, across the globe, the age of consent for sexual union was a matter for the family to decide, or a tribal custom. In most cases, this coincided with signs of puberty, menstruation for a woman and pubic hair for a man.
Sir Edward Coke in 17th century England ‘made it clear that the marriage of girls under 12 was normal, and the age at which a girl who was a wife was eligible for a dower from her husband’s estate was 9. The American colonies followed the English tradition, and the law was more of a guide. For example Mary Hathaway of Virginia, was only 9 when she was married to William Williams.
Portugal, Spain, Denmark and the Swiss canons, initially set the age of consent at 10-12 years and then raised it to between 13 and 16 years in the second half of the 19th century. Historically, the English common law set the age of consent to range from 10- 12. In the United States, by the 1880s, most states set the age of consent at 10-12, and in one state Delaware, the age of consent was only 7. Social and resulting legal attitudes toward the appropriate age of consent have drifted upwards in modern times. For example while ages from 10 to 13 were typically acceptable in Western countries during the mid-19the century, the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century were marked by changing.
I believe that a lot of our current mores come from reluctance to let our children mature mentally as quickly as our bodies do. Keep in mind that not all societies share Western mores. And to my surprise, until the latter part of the 19th Century, Children in the Western nations were engaged and married at a much earlier age. The trend to give children more time to mature is relatively new.
In his book, The Emphatic civilization, (Penguin, NY, 200) Jeremy Rifkin points out that the concept of adolescence only emerged during the last decade of the nineteenth century and the first three decades of the twentieth century. Society started to think of childhood as extending beyond puberty, into the later teenage years. Before that, children were considered to graduate into adulthood with the onset of puberty.”
And second lets go to another topic
Sahih Muslim
Book 008, Number 3424:
' A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Messenger of Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man. 'Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn 'Umar (the words are): Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) laughed.
Book 008, Number 3425:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared.
Book 008, Number 3427:
Umm Salama said to 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her): A young boy who is at the threshold of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should come to me, whereupon 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) said: Don't you see in Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) a model for you? She also said: The wife of Abu Hudhaifa said: Messenger of Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and there is something that (rankles) in the mind of Abu Hudhaifa about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus he may be able to come to you (freely).
Book 008, Number 3428:
Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported: I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon himy, saying to 'A'isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she ('A'isha) said: Why is it so? Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a beard. But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust) on the face of Abu Hadhaifa.
These are all sahih al muslim
Sunun ibn majah 1944 grade hassan
And the quran pages were eaten by sheep which is under her bed there is no word given as pillow in arabic so I would say bed
The Verse of stoning and of breastfeeding an adult ten times was revealed1, and the paper was with me under my pillow. When the Messenger of Allah died, we were preoccupied with his death, and a tame sheep came in and ate it.”
Suman ibn majah grade sahih
1943
Sahlah bint Suhail came to the Prophet and said: 'O Messenger of Allah, I see signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhaifah when Salim enters upon me.” The Prophet said: “Breastfeed him.” She said: “How can I breastfeed him when he is a grown man? The Messenger of Allah smiled and said: “I know that he is a grown man.” So she did that, then she came to the Prophet and said: “I have never seen any signs of displeasure on the face of Abu Hudhayfah after that.” And he was present at (the battle of) Badr.
Adult breastfeeding and they were outside men
Suman ibn majah 1945
Grade sahih
It was narrated from 'Aishah:
that the Prophet entered upon her and there was a man with her. He said: “Who is this? She said: “This is my brother.” He said: “Look at whom you allow to enter upon you, because the breastfeeding (that makes a person Mahram) is that which satisfies hunger.”
Suman ibn majah 1947
Grade sahih
It was narrated from Zainab bint Abi Salamah:
that the wives of the Prophet all differed with 'Aishah and refused to allow anyone with ties of breastfeeding like Salim, the freed salve of Abu Hudhaifah, to enter upon them. They said: “How do we know? That may be a concession granted only to Salim.”
And why god doesn't reveal to the jews because this was not from god
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
aleykum Salam wa rahmetullahi wa baraketuhu
Personally I find Br Asadullah Andalusi's article to be the best one written on this topic..please do cite it in part 2..
Do you have the link, please? Thank you very much.
@@damianleosaavedra Can't post the link in yt but the name of the article is "Understanding Aisha’s Age: An Interdisciplinary Approach"
@@mohammedashebo5917 Thank you very much!!
@@damianleosaavedra Your welcome
@@mohammedashebo5917thank you brother. It was an eye opening read and a very satisfying answer.
Very creepy to hear a group of young men openly talking about the appropriateness of having sex with children and trying to make it normal.its grooming, its evil, I petty your sisters and daughters. Shame on you all
Are you stupid? What is a child? Tell me... The age and definition of child has changed throughout human history it has never stayed the same. The perception and definition of childhood have evolved throughout human history and can vary across different cultures and time periods. In ancient societies, children were often expected to take on adult responsibilities at an earlier age than is typical in modern Western societies. Childhood as a distinct and protected phase of life is a relatively recent development, emerging primarily in the 17th and 18th centuries in Europe.
@thepanther8925 a child is someone who's sexual organs haven't fully developed. Even if aisha had already hit puberty, it still takes time for the hips and vagainal entrence to grow (you know, to prevent the vaginal opening from being torn when a man penetrates it) . Your desperate attempts to defend child rape just show your lack of comprehension with human anatomy.
@@sengfuestion8386but she said she was fully matured and never said anything bad about her marriage... what's next?
could you please give the international number of the hadees of harat ayesha stating that prophet came to our house when i was pubescent ?
34:45 @Ali Dawah offering advice giving me bad memories 😂😂😭😭
Talking to ignorant people who keeps using this issue is like pouring water into a leaf or just fallen into deaf ears about this.I am really thankful for your efforts about this.
But he doesn’t answer the issue
He didnt even answer with actual legit answer.
The solid evidence of your own most reliable hadiths remain, in several verses not just one, narrated by aisha herself that she was 6 years old married to mohammed and have sex at 9, with this 50 year old mohammed.
If this is the 'perfect human' morality indoctrinated by islam and you just nod without questioning the obvious immorality, then apparently your words on 'falling on deaf ears' should be directed to you
I read that muhammed thighed ayesha at the age of 6, and masturbated on her. Muhammed didnt even knew about his death. Atleast moses and jesus knew
why support a person who had sex with a child as young as 9. in the name of god?? he was 53 at the time. there is many muslim writings confirming the age, she played with toys, had little friends the same age. you can take the good of a religion without supporting child marriage.
@@oneill765she was not a child and both husband wife were very happy even she rejected the choice of divorce and wanted to sacrifice her for Nabi Kareem ﷺ but it's out of understanding that other people have problem...🤔
Edit title plz
"Mother of believer's Aisha RA"
Zoveel tijd besteden aan zo een onderwerp?
Waarom geen lange lezing over tahweed bijvoorbeeld?
Is there any online class for women with Mohammad hijab
Would you give your 6 or 9 year old daughter to a man who is in his 60s? Would you be ok with the idea of this man having intercourse with a 9 year old? Even if it was a common at the time to force girls who were around 12-14 to marry (often older) men, why didn't Islam forbid this, since the purpose of Islam was to make people better? I don't think that it's ever okay for a child to marry, and it's even worse if it's with a much older man. Based on this, we shouldn't criticise men who are marrying little girls in many countries to this day. If religion allowed it then, why not allow it now. This is really scary. I don't think that atheists/agnostics are necessarily "better" than Muslims, but I think the majority wouldn't let their 9 year old get married and engage in things that she doesn't have the maturity to even understand or consent to. Those who allow it are sick, it doesn't matter if they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Atheist etc.
Yes, I would marry my daughter at that age in a heart beat. If I found a good and trustworthy man, I would marry her to him and I would be very very happy at that. Because it will ultimately lead to her best life, she will be taken care of, she will learn from that man many things, maturity, love, responsibility, spirituality, and so much more. In most times and places it is literally the best thing a person can do for their daughters to marry them as soon as possible to the best human being they can find.... We live in a very different time in the last decades now where a strange and new education system is mandatory upon all, which is very very lengthy (and expensive to the point of most becoming in massive debt undergoing it, but which can have a pay off for the very few top 1-2% of the world population. Remember this education system never existed before, the technologies we have never existed, the modern life we have with all its complicated jobs never existed before, 99+% of people didn't read or write). Now people vie with each other for careers that take long times to establish, that strangle a large portion of our time and life to acquire, and barely give us enough sustenance sometimes to live paycheck to paycheck and pay the bills. People today don't have time to build large families, and the goal of today's time is focused on career as the ultimate goal, not family building. Times have changed. There's no wrong in pursuing education and entering these careers generally speaking, but when it's a detriment to the overall moral fabric of society then we have to think about changing things because it highly discourages family, motherhood, fatherhood, and producing children, in fact it not just discourages these things now but makes it very near impossible to have a big and stable family. Just think about that. How times are different and goals are different. In the past, for all of human history, the goal was to produce the best family. In fact, it is survival to get married in the past and in the present even in many parts of the world. It's the present day reality for many poorer parts of the world to get established in a family earlier for their well being, and besides that it is also a moral and ethical desire for many people to form a family as soon as possible. People need education but they also need to become part of a family early on too, otherwise later in life becomes difficult and everything becomes much more prolonged - however there is nothing wrong in either doing it earlier or later, depending on the situation, but earlier saves one from many harms that we see in today's modern world. There is nothing perverted about getting married early. It's only the perverted modern life of the secular world that makes one think in this stranger way. People didn't think like that in the past at all.... Saying all that, Islam is clear about what makes one an adult and what doesn't - it's puberty. Simple, straightforward, clear. Once you hit puberty, you are accountable to Allah. You are a young man and woman. I remember when I was 11 years old, I was very responsible and mature, very smart. I wanted to get married early. But then the education system corrupted me and I became more immature as time went on due to the all of perversions and distractions of modern life, and the delaying of adulthood. When I was 14 I wished very badly to just go out in the world and start earning a living and doing business, but the world chained me to a useless education system and kept calling me a child. It neuters young men actually and destroys their ambition and drive. Obviously this is not true for everyone, but for so many young men this rings true. And if this is true for me and for many young men, and men mature later than young women, then what to say about the women in our society who are delaying their God given gift of bearing children and motherhood. I'm sure many young women feel brutalized by the modern system.
People's perspectives need to change. Alhamdulillah for Islam that made things very clear. Puberty is the mark of adulthood. Now different times and places can adjust according to what suits their time and places best, but before puberty no one can consummate marriage. Islam put the limit on it. And is a mercy to all people and times that needed the clear definition. The modern secular liberal world has no set definition for adulthood and is offering no solutions to the very real problems of all people and all times in all different situations.
It is forbidden in Islam to force a girl to marry, or to marry her before she's reached the age of puberty, not to mention a myriad of rulings and teachings about treating her fairly, being a loving husband, etc.
Oh and, it doesn't matter if they were atheists, agnostics, Christians or Jews, the majority WOULD'VE let their nine year old daughter get married, because the majority of atheists, agnostics, Christians and Jews DID get married young, up until about a century ago. You only think this way because of the time and place you live in, and thus, got your morals from.
@@gobah I'm thinking critically. Children don't suddenly become super mature the day they reach puberty. On average girls reach puberty at 11 and boys at 12, although some girls reach puberty at 8 and boys at 9. It doesn't mean that they are mature enough. They are still children. It's not a bad thing to marry young if you find the right husband or wife early but as an adult woman, I wouldn't marry a 9 or 12 year old boy. Even if they were more mature than most boys of that age, their brain won't have developed enough and I would just view it as child abuse. I guess it's easy for the family to manipulate the child and make him/her think that this is normal but a lot of child marriages create lifelong trauma. There are plenty of adults to marry. I really don't understand people who insist on marrying a 8-12 year old in some countries.
@@cyclonemt pedophilia moment
Ayesha (رضی اللہ عنھا) herself was very happy with this marriage as is evidenced by the hundreds of teachings she later related after his (ﷺ) death.
do you think the children that Taliban brainwash to commit suicide bombing are not happy? they are just kids they dont know what best for them.
@@hpayandah What does kids have to do with this particular topic?
Of course. Because at 6 you can totally consent to marriage 🤔😆😆 what an amazing example for older men to follow who wants to marry kids. 😳🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
@@rafayshakeel4812 Sahih Al Bukhari.
You don't consider your 6year old son/daughter a kid?
Bro ..
@@ic.xc. In the 21st century, a 6 year-old in most parts of the world is a kid. However, there are many places like farms and villages where people mature faster than city folks. 1400 years ago, people matured early because the life expectancy was extremely low. People would die in their 30s and 40s, so it was necceray to marry young. This made them mature early.
Ayesha (رضی اللہ عنھا) was a young adult, not a kid.
I didn’t quite understand their stance but i hope they have changed to that she was older as per mufti abu layth - and hope they change their stance on the book bukhari (potential mistakes) and not equate it to the quran
Abu Layth is a clown
The argument is that the age of 9 can be justified.
@@Kimeikus oh okay and older than 9 arguments can be justified too?
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● 2) Another hadith in Al-Bukhari specifies the age of the Mother of the Believers, Aisha.
Al-Bukhari (Bab - Jewar of Abu Bakr during the time of the Prophet) reported that (Aisha) said: I have never thought of my parents except when they are professing the religion, and not a day passes for us without the Messenger of God coming to us both ends of the day in the morning and the evening, and when the Muslims were afflicted, Abu Bakr went out, migrating toward Abyssinia).
Then (Aisha) says that she did not understand her parents except when they were religiously professed, and that before the migration of Abyssinia as I mentioned, and she Said that the Prophet used to come to their home every day, which shows that she was rational for these visits, and what is certain is that the migration of Abyssinia was unanimous among the history books in the year (5) From the beginning of the Prophet’s mission, which corresponds to the year (615 AD),
The narration that was mentioned in Sahih al-Bukhari, which indicates events that occurred before the fourth year of the mission and that Aisha (MOB) narrated, indicates that Aisha was present before the fourth year of the mission started, and not only existed, but she was at the height of her awareness and understanding, enabling her to narrate the events of a story that occurred In this way and this means: If we assume that Aisha (Mother of the believers) was at least 5 to 7 years old before the fourth year of the mission, as it's realisticly and practicly impossible. This means that her age when the Messenger Married to her in the second year of the Hijra, cannot be in any way less than 15 to 17 years at least, and this undermines the narration that says that it was 9 years old from its roots!
Also playing with dolls may have been the heights of entertainment 1400 years ago.. so just as how we have 40 year old men playing call of duty, could she not have been 16 whilst still playing with dolls?
I didnt watch it is only hadith believe.
Like thrinking camel urine hadith ore like more fahsai things and things are not in the kuran.
Very true
The irony about this whole video is what you’re saying “what about you?” The very thing you’re saying other religions are doing
If Aisha was an adult when she got married Mohammed wouldnt have let her play with the dolls, because they were haram as they look like idols. In addition, when you look at Omar-Ummugulsm marriage, ummugulsum got married when she was 11-12 years old. However, her father Ali didnt approve this marriage at fist saying that her daughter was just a 11-12 year old child. So, according to Ali, 11-12 year old people were considered to be CHILD back then.
She also played with dolls when she was 30, also her father wanted to decline because shr was already engaged to someone else bro, how ever there family pulled out scared she would convert her son,
when Aisha ra played with her benaat she was 14/15 years old. ibn hajar explained this in his fathul baari. he supports this claim with the narration of abu dawood which states that this incident happened after khaybar or tabuk. at this period Aisha ra is 14/15/16 years old. and another narration confirms that she was not a child:
Aisha ra said: when a young girl reaches 9 years old, she’s an adult woman. narrated by al-bayhaqi and al-tirmidhi.
I repeat this again: the 9 year old of that time IS NOT the same as the 9 year old of our time. that assumption is a fallacy called anachronism.
4.41 This argument that - we can find no narration by someone who was a detractor of the prophet, using this issue (marrying a 6 year old, consummating with a 9 year old) to attack the Prophets credibility - might hold sway if we had ANY "narration" by ANYONE, good or bad for or against, or ANY contemporary evidence of any sort from a non Islamic source that even confirms the Prophets existence, let alone his marriage to a child.
🌟🌟 Ibn Khaldun :
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Subhanallah my mouth is wide open at this wisdom 🥰
It's well documented Aisha loved her husband. It's also proven nine year old brides that survive child pregnancy do not love their husbands because it's abuse. Do not teach what goes against Allah's natural law for the reward of teaching harm is not good.
What's the point you tryna point out here ?
I mena you see now a 9 years old child is marrying old? It was happened to be 1400 years ago!
@@thegirl4401 don't teach what causes harm. There are many nine year old child brides today being harmed. This is a mumtab. What should not be repeated since it does cause harm to children. If you would like to be nine married 1400 years ago that's your business. However recommending and teaching this which has nothing to do with Islam but harm isn't good.
@@hhe5357 wth??ofc it shouldn't happen now it's different scenario from that time 🤦🏼♀️
@@thegirl4401 the only thing this teaching does is justify men in pedophilia. It happens in India Yemen Lebanon Afghanistan that I know of. You can look up child marriage on TH-cam and see this horrible practice going on today.
15:00 he speaks about Jesus dying for my sins and that so i no longer have to follow the old testament? Matthew 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. '' Hes arguments are empty words
We are waiting
MashAllah
Video games are literally sophisticated toys. Even adult toys are toys literally.
It’s wrong point blank. We don’t need apologetics about this. We just need to accept it wasn’t right and do better
I mean you're just asserting things. I can do the same; it wasn't wrong as simple as that.
This doesn’t logically follow; but let me try do the same as you.
“This is not wrong point blank, we don’t need discussion “
Why does it take so long to say she was 6.
And by the way, anachronism is ok to be applied to cultures or people, but not ok when we talk about prophet or God 4:35
Plz do a video on islamic eschatology. thank you
Quran 4:6 specifies “hatha idha balagun nikah” which is “reaching the marriageable age” and mental maturity ('rushd') which obviously rules out the idea that you can marry children. Quran 4:19 says women cannot be inherited against their will; “forcing children would be even worse since they can’t even consent”. Islam not just mandates consent but also advocates an age of consent.
And what about quran 4:3 ?
And if you fear that you will not deal justly with the orphan girls, then marry those that please you of [other] women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only] one or those your right hands possess [i.e., slaves]. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].
And quran 65:4
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
@@iamthechosenone10 "those who have not menstruated" doesn't signify prepubescence No where does it mention prepubescent or child in that chapter. It says those who have not menstruated not those who have not YET menstruated. Is possible for a mature women to have absence of menses and this is called amenorrhea.
what is the objection with 4:3?
@longjunior7638
Quran 65 4
Sahih International
And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] THOSE WHO HAVE NOT MENSTRUATED. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease.
Now your gonna throw your islmic scholars under the bus ! Lol funny religion
TAFSIRS
Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! WHAT ABOUT THE WAITING PERIOD OF THOSE WHO DO NOT HAVE MENSTRUATION BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO YOUNG?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months.
Jalal - Al-JalalaynAnd [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] THOSE WHO HAVE NOT YET MENSTRUATED, BECAUSE OF THEIR YOUNG AGE, their period shall [also] be three months
Kathir - Ibn Al Kathir
The `Iddah Those Who do not have
The `Iddah of Those in Menopause and Those Who do not have Menses
Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. see 2:228 The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah is three months like those in menopause.
@longjunior7638
And do I really have to explain quran 4:3 to you and how disgusting that verse is or you gonna research yourself ? I already showed the meaning of quran 65 4 and how disturbing and digusting it is ? Can't you research on your own ?
@@iamthechosenone10 Quran is the primary and most important first source, and the narratives contradict the quran. Quran 4:19 "And test the orphans [in their abilities] until they reach marriageable age. Then if you perceive in them sound judgement, release their property to them. And do not consume it excessively and quickly, [anticipating] that they will grow up." - this verse clearly emphasizes mental maturity which according to biology and science happens after puberty. So it's not plausible to use secondary sources when Quran answers from a first principle.
Quran 4:19 "O believers! It is not permissible for you to inherit women against their will" - you cannot marry someone against their will so the question becomes, do children have a will to consent marriage? Common sense says NO!
I just explained 65:4 and ibn kathir didn't interpret the way you did.
If an 18-year-old man comes to you and says he’s getting married, you’d question his decision-making skills. You’d think he’s getting married too early.
Similarly, if an 18-year-old woman tells you that she’s getting married, you’d ask her to do a “reality check” and may be even discourage her by telling her she’s too young, and she should go to college or build a career.
Even though 18 is the legal age most countries, no one really believes that an 18-year-old is ready for marriage! Should it be same for girls and boys? Or, should girls have a different minimum age than boys? Should the fact that girls mature earlier than boys be takin into account? Does "one size fits all" really work for determining a minimum age?
In pre-modern cultures, girls would look forward to getting married and start a family. They did not see it as we see it today. They saw marriage as a benefit, not a burden like we do. That was the norm for them. And this was true in all religions, cultures, and regions of the world.
The minimum age for marriage has been increasing worldwide. In all pre-modern traditional cultures, it wasn’t unusual for girls to consummate marriages between the ages of 10 and 12 and that was considered normal back then, but not today.
In most modern societies, girls are highly discouraged from getting married, even at 18. Early marriage is considered bad. They’re told that education and careers are far more important and beneficial for a young woman than marriage and having children.
Today, we’ve been indoctrinated into believing that it's always better for a woman to have a career and work than to have children and raise them. Women are taught to delay marriage for career. How has this impacted women, men, children and the society at large? The result is that most Western nations are in decline-population is imploding. Marriage is ruined. People are having fewer and fewer children than the previous generations.
Corporations and business do not like early marriage because it’s bad for the economy. Women entering the workforce helps increase the supply of labor which in turns lowers wages. Business and corporations benefit when there are more women in the workforce. Women who work consume more and spend more. So, it’s good for business to have working women.
We’re even told that it’s possible and perfectly normal for a woman to have both a career and raise children at the same time. While this may work for some, it doesn’t work for all women. Many women get burnt out trying to juggle jobs and raising kids. It's such a huge responsibility. We expect women to work like they have no kids. We expect women to have kids like they don't have a job. All this has put unrealistic demands on women. Stress, depression, and disintegration of the family. That statistics are there. It is unfair to women. Women have been tricked into believing that having a career and family are the norm.
Modernity and liberalism have changed everything. Today we find early marriage shocking, but the pre-modern people lived in a very different time period. They didn’t go to schools or colleges.
Liberalism has brainwashed us into rejecting early marriage. Girls are denied the freedom to marry early. Yet, girls are told they can sleep with anyone they want, have sex with anyone, “discover”, and even change their gender any time without parental consent! Liberalism is stupid, dangerous, and destructive. It’s ruining lives, families, communities, and societies. Thanks to liberalism, most Western nations are in decline-population is imploding.
In pre-modern societies, girls did not care much about careers because there weren’t any to begin with. There was no vocational or job training for any jobs because girls didn’t get jobs. She had goats and cows to milk. Why won’t she get married and enjoy sex and have children? Early marriage was not only the norm, but also the most sensible and financially beneficial thing to do. That was then. Still, we have many poor villages in India and Africa where this works. As long as there’s no harm, let them do it.
In the history of the world, there’s never been a universally agreed upon minimum age for marriage. Every religion or country has its own minimums. So, what’s the perfect age for marriage? What should be the minimum age? Depends on who you ask! There’s no perfect age as there’s no magic formula. People mature differently depending in their age and cultural norms. Some say minimum age of marriage should be 18 for both boys and girls. Some say 16, and some even say 12 or 14. Regardless of the number, the modern laws setting minimum age for marriage completely ignore the obvious biological fact that girls mature earlier than boys.
Consequently, girls should have the legal option to be able to marry earlier than boys.
U really justified this in detail. Undercover ped
Aisha(r.a.) married with Prophet(s.a.v.), when she was around her 18.
There are several authentic hadith narrations about the age of certain woman which seems contradicting with each other. And, we can find several examples on these contradictions;
1 - Some narrations says Khadija(r.a.) was 28, some says 40, during her marriage
2 - Some narrations says Aisha(r.a.) was 9, some imply she was 17, during her marriage
3 - Some narrations says Esma(r.a.) died when she was 100, some says around 90s
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So, all these authentic hadiths seem contradicting with each other due to an old Arab tradition: in the absence of a standard calendar, Arab society took certain important events as a milestone for their life, and they referred them when they need to count years.
ARAB WOMEN USED TO COUNT THEIR AGES STARTING FROM THE FIRST TIME THEY OBSERVE MENSTURATION, since that is relatively important event for their life.
You can find more information, and authentic references from a book written to only address this issue;
"HZ. AISE KAC YASINDA EVLENDI" by Researcher Dr. Resit Haylamaz. (available in google books)
God knows the best.
from verse 4 of Surah 65. In this verse, it says:
“And as to such of your women as have despaired of menstruation, if you be in doubt thereof, their waiting period is three months, as also of those who have not yet 😢menstruated. And as to those who are pregnant, their term is when they give birth.”
Take it from a Muslim, claiming that Aisha (ra) was 18 when she got married is nothing but cope.
@@elite7329
It is good sign that they try to cover up her age, it should their guilt,shame and dishonesty…,
Aisha was 9 went sex and Mo was 53
He died when she was 17, and half year.. going to 18 years old he was around 62 or 63
@@cocoalfaridah5831and Jesus was born from a 12 years old, rebecca was 3 when she married isaac, allowed by jesus, so?
@@hajrospio8091 don’t you have the virgin birth in your Quran?
How old was Mariam? When he had sex with Allah your god?
This became an issue after 1990. And they're saying it like there was no patriarch for the girls. Like anybody could just marry a young girl and no one had any say except the groom.
No? 🙄
A girL need the perMision from her father or waLi to MarRy..
@@nu-nisamiracle2401 I know I'm saying the new Atheists and Evangelists is interpreting matrimony into something else.
@@snake1mi oh lol.. 💐👍
@@yesihavereadit Anyone? You fo know he was rejected, boycotted and exiled?
Mashaalloh tabarokalloh bless you and your family and friends 😊 Assalamu alaikum warohmatullohi wabarokatuh
I think what's wrong in the liberal brain is that they always thinking on something insignificant such as age when something they should be prioritising is the marriage itself. I forgot the hadith but I remember that marriage is the half of the religion, cmiiw. It is so important that even marrying at young age is not a problem! When you look at it in that perspective the marriage of Khadijah RA and Muhammad SAW or Aisha RA and Muhammad SAW make sense! No matter how old you are when you have the chance to get married, you should get married! The reason of getting married is important is because of its family values, something that is lost in the liberal world. You see many men and women dies alone in their apartment with no one knowing. You see woman getting used as sex object by many men. You see abortion. You see all the worst things that could happen to a society. Things like that could be only solved with marriage! But of course, the liberal world make it harder and harder to get married as if it is want to destroy humanity itself.
People back then didn’t know the year they were born, not even close. The earliest biographers have her at 12/13 AT LEAST at the time of the contract. 15/16 at time of consummation. If she was pre pubescent it would’ve been noted, she was a grown woman by the standards of the day and in line with the cultural norms of the day.
Nonsense. Hundreds of scholars from the 8th century to the 21st agree that she was six. If you have to whitewash a religion to feel morally okay, maybe it's a bad religion.
Nowhere mahummad hijab explained about quran 65 4 surah talaq which is very important
سلام عليكم..
Our Mother Aysha *Ra*..loved her Husband and She had strong personality.
She is from among greatest Scholars..
Advanced knowledge Not only about our Messenger Peace be upon him.
The Arabic language..
Poetry
The Glorious Quran 🙌
Herbal remedies ..
Confident beautiful Lady..
Allah honouring her being favourite wife ❤️
Our Prophet *Saw* died in her Arms .
This is no way a Traumatised Lady .
Love ❤️ Story ..
& I trust our Prophet and know he will never doing something improper.
And was put to bed at age 9. Wonderful example for all mankind.
@@ic.xc. she was pubertal, which was considered womanhood in older times, not even that long ago
Stop applying presentism to history, it's fallacious and stupid. It's also pretty obvious you haven't watch anything in this video
@@ic.xc. pedophilia is defined as sexual attraction to children. A child is defined as someone who has not reached puberty or the age of majority. Aisha, by her own testimony, was pubertal when she moved in with the Prophet. Therefore, your argument is factually false
Cry more lol
@@ic.xc. it’s halal because Muhammad piss be upon him did it. He is the moral conduct for all mankind for all times.
@@ic.xc. read histoy 8 9 10 normal age to married
We don't care western societies today
He knows the truth
Peados
I’m Muslim but we can’t defend it because the Hadith in bukari regarding her age is wrong and one of the reasons why enemies of Islam use to attack character of the prophet pbuh. I’m not a Shia but even Shia don’t agree she was 6
So what parts of Hadith are wrong? Just the parts you don't agree with? So you can custom make your own religion?
why dont we start with... "how did they calculate time" ... i am actually interested in it abit.
A person must be aqil and baligh, no custom can overrule that. And the person must consent and know what that involves. The hadith are questionable at best and go against the primacy of the rule. According to the Hanafi mazhab a female can make her own wedding contract and a child can't, so do with that what you will. Also, this hadith has been abused by people to abuse children. May Allah ta'ala protect us and let us understand rahmatalilaalameen and not pretend zulm is from rahma. Instead we should be more objective in our approach and start applying reason to analysis of hadith literature.
please do one on Safiyah (RA) and the entire incident of that war and slavery issue...
I have the video but it's in urdu can you understand urdu?
Actually I read from the hadith that after the war all the hate was clear from the heart of Bibi Safiya these words are uttered by herself mentioned in the hadith then Prophet Muhammad ﷺ marriad her.
@@muntaha678 yeah i understand urdu a little bit.. share the link..
Ok brother
@@muntaha678 What title is this videos from
@@mustafaahmed9963 this is about the iddah of Bibi Safiya razi Allahu Ta'ala anha as a slave woman
It's title is that *Did Prophet Muhammad ﷺ get married before idah*
Worth sayin Despite the above MA. Some scholars conclude Aisha was 18yrs old like Dr Joshua Little of Oxford Uni. Also Mary mother of Jesus was 12-14yrs, for Jews Law of Ayolit say mere 3yrs! Btw King Richard’s wife Isabella 6! France were as young as 8yrs. Guru Nanak wife was some 12-14yrs. Christian Canon law stated mere 7yrs. Delaware law
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
My daughter is 16 yrs old and still gets excited seeing doll unicorns and rainbows
shes 10 years to old for your prophet
@@santomarques1718 bet you wouldn't go in front of a masjid and say that
@@abdulwakeel5598Religion of peace yeah😂
@@abdulwakeel5598PEDO Worshiper
Then your daughter is still a child who is not ready for marriage.
The argument that we should not judge historical Islam by modern standards standards just does not add up for a variety of reasons, One, if Mohammed did it and he is the perfect example for mankind in all times and places then you would think God would have directed Islam and Muhammad to ban this practice if Islam it was truly a devine revelation.... Secondly it's only in recent times that this whole age of Aisha has become a topic within Islam under pressure from the standards of the non Islamic world, nobody in the Islamic world was remotely concerned with this issues. Islam did not discover an ethical issue to be addressed here by itself by its own values, it took outsiders to address it 🙄 this should not be that hard to get, having sex with a 9 year old is just wrong!
1. The reason why we don't judge Islam by modern standards is because we haven't been shown any objective justification for said modern standards. It's just you guys begging the question is all.
2. Muslims are moral objectivists, not moral absolutists. Wheter an action is morally right or wrong generally depends on the context in which said action took place. In the case of the Prophet's (saw) marriage to Aisha (ra) we can see that there were extenuating circumstances (i.e. low life expectancy, high infant mortality, frequent war, famine disease, etc.) forcing people at that time to marry as early as physically tolerable. Not doing so would've likely resulted in community-wide extinction. The reason why early marriage wasn't banned is because there are certain circumstances in which such a custom becomes necessary and that remains true indefinitely.
3. Aisha's marriage only recently became a hot button topic because up until very recently people weren't at liberty to marry as late as we do currently. In fact prior to the industrial revolution, when peoples material circumstances shifted radically, virtually the entire world (which included the "enlightened West") seemed to not bat an eye at early marriage. That is not a coincidence.
Example for all mankind does not equal live 1400 years ago the way modern people live. It would be different if he married a prepubescent girl, but marrying a someone who was old enough for marriage, ready for marriage, willing for marriage, previously engaged to a non-Muslim proving that this was the norm for the time among all people, does not negate Prophethood. They lived in an agricultural society with no education system. She would've been married regardless, whether to him or someone else, so stop acting like he made her get married young. Mohammad pbuh marrying a girl who was already an adult by society's standards does not exclude him from being a role model.
Aisha RA narrated roughly 2000 ahadith that painted a loving, positive picture of the Prophet, not a negative one. She herself was a fierce, outspoken, highly intelligent person who became a scholar, and later a military leader. If she wanted to complain about him in her 67 years of life, she would've.
I copied and pasted the rest of this, but it drives the point home:
Asadallah Ali who is not longer in the dawah scene unfortunately said this, and I think it perfectly talks to the morons who still try to make the Age of Aisha (RA) an issue:
"Muhammad is always perfect because he dealt with the conditions of his time in a perfectly moral way. The problem here is that you seem to believe conditions for society are always static. If the average life expectancy was like 30 1400 years ago, it's perfectly rational to marry as early as possible. Saying we don't follow that today is not an admission to his lack of perfection, but a basic understanding of human development and history. Condemning him for this action is evidence of a lack of education. And anyone who claims this is "subjective morality" is even dumber."
It is not a wrong that it did not cause her physical or psychological harm, but if it turns out that marrying a girl of this age causes that, then Islam and Islamic Sharia prohibit marriage at the age of nine. Islam did not specify the age, but it only specified the capabilities
@@johnoops4633 nine summers is nine summers no matter how mature the child, nobody can say how mature she was but it I have never heard of seen of a nine year old that ever looked 16. Even if she did nine summers does not offer anyone enough time to gain experience to enter into a sexual marriage. The problem today is you have men in Yemen and others parts of the islamic world that in other cultures would be branded as padeophiles but they get a pass because they can say Mohamed did the same. Many islamic majority counties have specific laws allowing girls to marry at 9 Precisely because Mohammad did. That is a fact
@@gobah Book E: Purification
E10.3
When a woman who has been made love to performs the purificatory bath, and the male's sperm afterwards leaves her vagina, then she must repeat the ghusl if two conditions exist: (a) that she is not a child but rather old enough to have sexual gratification (A: as it might otherwise be solely her husband‟s sperm);
(b) and that she was fulfilling her sexual urge with the lovemaking, not sleeping or forced.
Book N: Divorce
N9.1
There is no waiting period for a woman divorced before having had sexual intercourse with her husband.
N9.2 A waiting period is obligatory for a woman divorced after intercourse, whether the husband and wife are prepubescent, have reached puberty, or one has and the other has not.
Intercourse means copulation (def: n7.7). If the husband was alone with her but did not copulate with her, and then divorced her, there is no waiting period.
N9.6
If a woman is not pregnant and has menstrual periods, her waiting period ends when three intervals between menstruations have finished. A part of an interval between menstruations is considered the same as a whole interval. Thus, if the woman's husband divorced her and her menses began an instant later, her waiting period would end after two more intervals between menstruations had finished and a third menstruation begun.
N9.9 The waiting period for a woman who does not menstruate, whether prepubescent or postmenopausal, is three months.
Umdat al Salik
N7.7
When a free man has pronounced a threefold divorce, the divorced wife is unlawful for him to remarry until she has married another husband in a valid marriage and the new husband has copulated (dis: p29) with her, which at minimum means that the head of his erect penis fully enters her vagina.
N11.2
A husband who accuses his wife of adultery is disciplined (ta`zir, def: o17) by the magistrate and not allowed to imprecate against her when her adultery is already legally established (O: whether by her own admission, or by proof, meaning that four upright witnesses (o24.4) have looked at her when she was copulating and seen the adulterer's penis in her vagina), or when (N: adultery is impossible, such as when) the person accused is a mere infant.
THE BRIDE'S RIGHT TO MARRY A SUITABLE MATCH OF HER CHOICE
m3.9 Whenever a free woman asks to marry a suitor who is a suitable match (def m4) (O: by telling her guardian, ``Marry me to him''), the guardian must marry her to him (O: whether she is a virgin or nonvirgin, and whether prepubescent or not).
[...]
1) The only guardians who may compel their charge to marry are a virgin bride's father or father's father, compel meaning to marry her to a suitable match (def: m4) without her consent.
(2) Those who may not compel her are not entitled to marry her to someone unless she accepts and gives her permission. Whenever the bride is a virgin, the father or father's father may marry her to someone without her permission, though it is recommended to ask her permission if she has reached puberty. A virgin's silence is considered as permission. As for the nonvirgin of sound mind, no one may marry her to another after she has reached puberty without her express permission, no matter whether the guardian is the father, father's father, or someone else.
[...]
Neither sunna nor unlawful innovation means the divorce of a wife who is prepubescent, postmenopausal, pregnant, or one with whom one has not yet had sexual intercourse.
[...]
n9.1 There is no waiting period for a woman divorced before having had sexual intercourse with her husband.
n9.2 A waiting period is obligatory for a woman divorced after intercourse, whether the husband and wife are prepubescent, have reached puberty, or one has and the other has not.
Intercourse means copulation (def: n7.7). If the husband was alone with her but did not copulate with her, and then divorced her, there is no waiting period.
Umdat as-Salik
Infants may be contracted by their guardians.
The marriage of a boy or girl underage, by the authority of their paternal kindred, is lawful, whether the girl be a virgin or not, the Prophet having declared, "Marriage is committed to the paternal kindred." Malik alleges that this is a power the excecise of which does not appertain to any of the kindred except the father. Shafei maintains that it belongs only to her father or grandfather: and he adds that this privilege does not appertain to any guardian whatever with respect to an infant Siyeeba, although he be her father or her grandfather. Malik argues that power over freemen is estalished from necessity; but in the present instance no such necessity exists, as infants are not subject to any canal appetite : yet it is vested in a father, on the authority of sacred writings contrary to what analogy would suggest : but he also says that a grandfather, not being the same as a father, is not to be included with him.
The Hedaya
And of one not subject to courses, three months : and of one who is pregnant, the term of tier travail. THE Edit of a woman who, on account of extreme youth or age, is not subject to the menstrual discharge, is three months, because GOD has so ordained in the sacred writing, The Edit of a pregnant woman is accomplished by her delivery, whether she be a slave or free, because GOD, in the sacred writings, has so ordained respecting woman in that situation.
The Hedaya
And so likewise of a child born of a wife under age within nine months after either irreversible or reversible divorce. If a man repudiate, by an irreversible divorce, a wife who is under the age of puberty, but yet such an one as may admit of carnal connexion, and she bring forth a child after the expiration of nine months from the time of divorce, the parentage of the child is not established in him ; but if the delivery be within less than nine months, it is established. This is according to Haneefa and Mohammed, Aboo Yoosaf says that the Parentage is established in the man, although the child, should not be born within less than two years from the period of divorce, because she was under Edit, and it is possible that the pregnancy may have existed at the time of the divorce, and she not have declared the accomplishment of her Edit, wherefore this infant wife is the same as a full-grown woman.
The Hedaya
The marriage of a minor boy and [of] a minor girl is permitted when the guardian gives them in marriage, be the minor girl a virgin or a previously married woman who had consummated her marriage.
[...]
Sunnah according to time is established only in respect of the woman with whom marriage has been consummated, and that is when he divorces her once in the period of purity in which he does not have sexual intercourse with her, and [with regards to] the woman whose marriage has not been consummated, [the sunnah is] that he may divorce her in the period of purity or menstruation.
When the woman does not menstruate due to her minority [age] or old age, and he wants to divorce her according to the sunnah, he should divorce her once.
When a month passes, he divorces her again, and when a month passes [again], he divorces her another [time].
It is permitted for him to divorce her and not create a gap in time between having sexual intercourse with her and her divorce.
The Mukhtasar of Al Quduri
it would great if you'd change the logo i think
So you recognize Aisha was 6 years old. It is a fact hadith Muslim says that she was 18 years old when the prophet died.
Sahih Muslim book 8 number 3331
‘Aisha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (May peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old.
Always excuses we know she was a minor please stop the excuses
Watch the video
Whoever rejects this rejects human history and is also a fool when it comes to history
Marriage later than puberty marked the lower classes and poor financial ability in ancient Europe, while The upper classes and wealthy merchants etc tended to marry younger as they had the means to house themselves and provide for a family at a younger age. The legal age of consent to marriage was twelve for girls and fourteen for boys, though betrothal might be arranged at a younger age by ambitious parents.
Lady Margaret Beaufort (Countess of Richmond and Derby), mother of Henry VII of England, married as a seven *7* year old girl
Queen Isabella of Valois, daughter of Charles VI of France, married Richard II of England as a second wife when she was six *6* years old girl
The problem is that scientists say:
"There was no such thing as adolescence, And our generation now has adolescence that continues to the age of 25, And It increases generation after generation"
Yes, Robert Epstein wrote a great article on this called 'The Myth of the Teen Brain' in Scientific American. The idea that it's abnormal is absurd.
@@yesihavereadit Different guy
The A'isha Pedophilia argument is allways brought up by uneducated fools, who doesnt know nothing about history. Most of their grandparents would considered as pedophiles or at least they would be the product of child marriage to our nowadays standards, so ? We all are the product of "pedoohilia" if we look when our grandparents or at least grandgrandparents married
Is it possible that Aisha r.a had Pubertas praecox ? I saw an article which stated that the youngest mother was 5 years old amd had that condition
why on earth would that matter? Even if she had that, does it make it okay? And that 5 year old doesn't have the capability to understand sex,birth and consent.
@@archangelnoelle8217than yoz should read more about history
So regardless of how you rationalize this, isn't still weird for a grown man of any time period to be sexually attracted to a 9 year old? Let's say that women were married off earlier because people died at age 35 on average, it would still be weird to be attracted to a child wouldn't it?
In Christianity and Judaism, there is no age limits in Bible, which is why kids as young as 5 were getting married in Christian countries in the West.
1. Professor of history Margaret Wade Labarge
“It needs to be remembered that many Medieval widows were not old, Important heiresses were often married between the ages of 5 and 10 and might find themselves widowed while still in their teens.” [1]
2. Professor Richard Wortley and Professor Stephen Smallbone, both of whom state that prior to the 1900s girls married very young,
“In Medieval and early modern European societies, the age of marriage remained low, with documented cases of brides as young as seven years, although marriages were typically not consummated until the girl reached puberty (Bullough 2004). Shakespeare’s Juliet was just 13, and there is no hint in the play that this was considered to be exceptional. The situation was similar on the other side of the Atlantic; Bullough reports the case in 1689 of a nine-year-old bride in Virginia. At the start of the nineteenth century in England, it was legal to have sex with a 10 year-old girl.”
Richard A. Posner is chief judge of the U.S court of appeals, Seventh Circuit Chicago. Katherine B. Silbaugh is associate Professor at Boston University School of Law, they say that before the 1900s age of consent was ten years old,
“The law governing the age of consent has changed dramatically in the United States during this century. Most states codified a statutory age of consent during the nineteenth century, and the usual age was ten years.”
Richard A. Posner is chief judge of the U.S court of appeals, Seventh Circuit Chicago. Katherine B. Silbaugh is associate Professor at Boston University School of Law, they say that before the 1900s age of consent was ten years old,
“The law governing the age of consent has changed dramatically in the United States during this century. Most states codified a statutory age of consent during the nineteenth century, and the usual age was ten years.”
Professor of Sociology Anthony Joseph Paul Cortese says that a 50 year old man being with a girl under 10 (being intimate) Under United States law was legal until the mid 1960s,
“In 1962, the American Law Institute recommended that the legal age of consent to sex- that is, the age below which sex is defined as statutory rape- be dropped in every state to age 10 (Katchadourian and Lund 1972: 439). In fact, until the mid 1960s, the legal age of consent in Delaware was 7 (Kling, 1965: 216). So a 50 year old man could legally have sexual intercourse with a 7 year old boy or girl.”
Maureen Dabbagh is a writer and author. Born in Michigan, she serves as a Virginia Supreme Court Family Mediator, she echoes the same statements as previous authors,
“…the nineteenth century, the minimum age of consent for sexual intercourse in most American states was 10 years. In Delaware it was only 7 years.”
What Christian country marry kids like 5 years old?
Beside, we are accused Ming the supposed perfect role model for mankind, Muhammad!
Men are supposed to follow his example all
Over the world..
Child bride, taking married women for our friend , son , forcing sex on widow..
Sex slave,
@The Son of God worships the Father absolutely!
That pdfile is their god in disguise, they worship him
Through the name of Allah!!!
He was cunning Muhammad!😀
@Noor Khan
Child rape does not exist in the Bible, you are lying!
Please prove it!
If priest do such a thing, it is not the church or the Bible teaching, but for Islam it is Muhammad teaching per-se
The Bible said:
Jesus Let the children come to me; do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of God….
Yes brother keep putting in work! Love your channel, jazak Allah khair 💪🏽
@@cocoalfaridah5831 so st Thomas aquinas, David, Moses, and tertullian are all pedos?
Also, why didn't Jesus condemn it then.
Hijab although I respect the work you do defending islam on this issue you have made a massive mistake.
The scholars who defend the hadtih have to do so in profound error of the Qur'an. The Qur'an is Al-Furqan and Absloute Truth that Judges the hadith not the hadtih that judges rhe Qur'an.
In the Qur'an Nikkah which permits sexual intercourse is ONLY to a WOMAN!
The Qur'an defines what a woman is so we don't need Hijab or any other scholars define it because the Qur'an explains it well without the need for external reasoning. Submit the interlect to the reasoning of the Qur'an.
Some people use a solitary verse in the Qur'an to justify the Hadith to marry a girl of 6
Surah At Talaq 65:4: such of your women as have passed the age of monthly menstral cycles, for them them the prescribed period.... For those who have no menstral courses it is the same....
Such a woman who doesn't have her monthly menses either be one of two things.
1. She has not reached the age of puberty hence a child of 9
Or
2. A woman who suffers from abnormal menseses
Which of the two is the Qur'an refering to?
The Qur'an defines Nisa as Harth meaning a field which is ploughed so that seed can be planted with the hope that they will fertilise to grow and and produce crop:
Al-Baqarah, 2: 223 ...your women are your Harth meaning tilth or field: go, then unto your tilth as you may desire...
So for a girl to become a Nisa woman eligible for sex she must reach the age of puberty because only at this age her womb biologically develops into the Harth or a field ready for cultivation. Prior to that age she is a child who's womb cannot be cultivated since no seed can ever be fertilized and grow.
This is further reinforced in Al-Nisa, 4:3 ... the orphan (girl), you can marry those from amongst them who have become women...
So you can marry orphan girls only when they reach the age of puberty making them into women.
In addition to puberty Al-Nisa, 4: 6 ... you have to test the orphans until they reach the age of Nikah (woman). So, if you determine she is mentally mature give her inheritance to her.
Therefore, if in addition to puberty a woman who reaches the age or nikkah must also be mentally mature.
It is unequivocal the hadith in sahih Al bukhari that declared the prophet's marriage to a six or nine years according to other narrations is in manifest conflict with the Qur'an.
Therefore, it is a FALSEHOOD! and FABRICATION!
Those who defend the hadith should have the integrity to declare it is a sunnah to marry a six or a nine year old child and that they themselves prepared and to apply this sunnah, since Allah Most High declared in Al-Ahzab, 33: 21 ... That the conduct of the blessed prophet is the best example of human conduct. In addition according to the school of fiqh if a sunnah is left to die then the entire ummah is responsible for neglecting the sunnah and therfore, sinful. The scholars who defend this hadith should explain why Nobody including them is willing to follow this sunnah and elevate the burden of sin that is upon the ummah.
If the scholars say this was only exclusive for the prophet like him having more than four wives then this is the clear exception given by Allah in the Qur'an. Then, be careful not to attribute a lie to Allah in your sham attempt to defend the hadith literature as Allah has not said this.
Therefore, to attribute to the prophet that which you cannot defend or follow yourself is a blatant lie against the prophet that you will have explain on judgement day to the prophet when you reach Al-kawthar.
You took at-Talaq verse4 out of context Brother. If I’m not mistaken these verses have to do with divorce. And prescribes waiting period before remarriage.
@@TheRoundtable_RTG as-salamu alaykum Brother
The verse of divorce is within context. If you divorce a woman you first have to do a nikkah of marriage with her. The Qur'an is saying after the nikkah is consummated and you decide to divorce then if a woman has no messes she also waits three months. Some scholars use this verse to justify the marriage to Ayesha at 6 or 9 because a child doesn't have menses yet.
These scholars have taken this verse out of context by ignoring the other verse of the Qur'an I quoted that defines a woman in the Qur'an as Harth, meaning she's reached the age of puberty. So when Allah is talking about a woman who doesn't have menses is talking about a woman who has reached the age of puberty but she has some medical issues whereby her menses are abnormal. In these comments I summarised hoping people will understand the Qur'an is clear that nikkah or marriage is only to a woman which is defined by the Qur'an as reaching puberty and possessing mental maturity.
@@TheRoundtable_RTG it is very simple bro open up the Qur'an and look at the verses I quoted. Allah has explained it very clearly. All we have to do is connect the dots by connecting the verses together in harmony.
You don't need to go outside of the Qur'an on this issue because the Qur'an is very explicit and clear.
If you are looking at the Hadith text know it is not the word of Allah so the Qur'an will always judge the hadith text.
@@Nellytheelephant2012 yes I understand. It’s just difficult when scholars purport the Hadith and then try to explain it away with arguments such as fallacy of presentism and anachronism-which contradicts the notion of RasulAllah being the best of all men. Instead, the only reasonable defense would be to stand by his actions as Sunna, end of discussion. But when they try to make arguments to reason for it, it makes it seem like they agree his actions were questionable.
But I’ll do search on verses that declare what a woman is.
@@TheRoundtable_RTG mashallah you can think. Bro they wouldn't dare say it is sunnah and they know that. Instead they are trying to defend the shaih status of the text and I'm doing so they have to suppress the Qur'an and sunnah. If they say it is sunnah then they must be ready to fulfill the sunnah and marry a child of 6 or 9. They won't yet attribute it to the prophet. The Qur'an is the absolute truth that prevails over all false assumptions.
I was confused before but when I went to the Qur'an I realised on this issue there is no need for tafsir or taweel by anyone because the Qur'an itself clearly distinguished a woman from a girl. All we had to do is simply look at the different verses
Mashallah❤
You need women Muslim minds in the group. It would have been more interesting.
At the end of the day, it's a non-issue. God won't ask us on the day of judgement what age we thought Aisha was. Whether she was 18 or 9, it's not essential to whether you are a good person or not
The issue is not are "you a good person" but whether Muhammad was a good person or whether allah is good. Having sex with a nine year old suggests serious moral defects, Yes?
One big reason Aisha (r.a) was married is that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) knew she would relate many hadith, she was smart and would ask the right questions, and was a challanging wife (in a good way), so that the marriage was a good example for many muslims later on. And she was one of the latest to die (678), she had time to relate speech to later generations.
We have many evidance that the Prophet knew things from the future because God showed him. I think this marriage could be inspired because of these reasons, and also some political reasons, but there was also love in the marriage.
Anyone can correct me if you have information against this.
1 more reason she was married young is that, this issue would be a test for many believers and unbelievers later on 😆
Haha you are funny, ı really think you are, the way you thinking.
So why didnt the profets before not married a 5 year old for ahadith.
I didnt watch it is only hadith believe.
Like thrinking camel urine hadith ore like more fahsai things and things are not in the kuran.
@@TheSonOfGodWorshipsTheFather oh, which Pope are you reffering to? You are thinking of catholism bro, christians follow those.
but Muhammad is supposed to be the pinnacle of humanity, someone we should all replicate, why would he want to have sex with a 9 year old when he was in his 50s. I am just looking for answers.
@@m1j100_
Firstly, Muhammad (pbuh) did not 'want' to have intercourse with a 9 year old. It was a command from Allah swt to marry Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her). Why? Because of her intellectual capabilities as an individual, and the ways in which she would be able to guide the ummah. Muhammad (pbuh) isn't someone we "replicate", he is someone who's teachings and actions we learn and follow with emphasis on intention. That is not synonymous to replication. Had the Prophet had immoral intentions as some presume, he would have married more young people/children as wives, but he did not.
If you're saying that since Muhammad (pbuh) married a 9 year old, it is subsequently permissible for any man to marry a 9 year old, then you would be wrong. The question of her mental and physical maturity at 9 years old is the focal point of the issue, not the numeric age. She met the physical maturity: puberty. Then what about her mental maturity? How could she have consented to marriage? What, or who, determines her mental, behavioral, psychological, and social maturity? The answer is her parents. Then it begs the question of the determinant of the parents' mental competence. How do we know the parents will make the right choice for their child? How could they make the decision to give her hand to an older man? Social and mental evaluation of a parent is determined by how they function as members of a society. But what society? Who is to say that such a society that allows for a ‘child’ (which constitutes to being 9 years old as we say) is not a morally corrupt culture? What is a good society? It is at this point, that we turn to the Qur’an. A society in which men and women understand and follow the Qur’an perfectly is an intellectually capable society. The Qur’an tells the best way to function in and build a society. The Qur’an THEN says to follow the Hadiths.
Now you might ask, what if we had a society today that resembled 7th century Arabia with regard to the marriage of a ‘child’? For example, child marriages are prominent in places like Afghanistan. Parents still choose to hand off their children to older men, most of whom are certainly pxdophiles. Here, we must keep in mind that their child’s mental evaluation is not their only responsibility. It is the parents’ duty to evaluate the potential groom: intentions of the groom, and social competence of the groom. If the parents fail to do this and/or knowingly send off their daughter to a problematic male, they are disobeying the Islamic law and placing their child in danger’s way. Allah swt will punish these individuals as He sees fit.
42:17 all of the sudden she is a child I thought she was 16 a few mins earlier when you guys were talking
In the Bible, there are instances where individuals are described as marrying at a relatively young age, by contemporary standards. It's important to keep in mind that the concept of "young age" can be relative and is influenced by historical and cultural contexts. Here are a few examples from the Old and New Testaments:
1. Old Testament:
- Isaac and Rebekah: Rebecca was three years old in the book of Genesis, Isaac, the son of Abraham, married Rebekah when she was brought to him by his father's servant. While the exact age of Rebekah at the time of her marriage to Isaac is not explicitly stated in the Bible, some Jewish traditions and commentaries suggest that she was a young choked at THREE years, when she married Isaac.
- Jacob and Rachel: In the book of Genesis, Jacob married Rachel after working for her father Laban for seven years. It is worth noting that in the cultural context of the time, it was not uncommon for individuals to marry at a younger age compared to contemporary practices.
2. New Testament:
- Mary and Joseph: According to Christian tradition, Mary, the mother of Jesus, was betrothed to Joseph when she was a young woman, likely in her teenage years. Betrothal in ancient Jewish culture was a formal arrangement that preceded the actual marriage, and it often took place at a relatively young age.
It's important to approach these accounts with an understanding of the historical and cultural context in which they took place. The concept of marriage and the age at which individuals married in ancient times can differ significantly from modern practices and societal norms.
Please proof to me scripturally that Rebecca was 3.
Asadallah Ali who is not longer in the dawah scene unfortunately said this , and I think it perfectly talks to the morons who still try to make the Age of Aisha (RA) an issue:
"Muhammad is always perfect because he dealt with the conditions of his time in a perfectly moral way. The problem here is that you seem to believe conditions for society are always static. If the average life expectancy was like 30 1400 years ago, it’s perfectly rational to marry as early as possible. Saying we don’t follow that today is not an admission to his lack of perfection, but a basic understanding of human development and history. Condemning him for this action is evidence of a lack of education. And anyone who claims this is “subjective morality” is even dumber."
Not to mention child mortality rates were high so people needed to start families younger in order to have a chance of having surviving children. They know their ancestors did it, they just have a problem with him doing it, because they have a problem with him.
NO, of course not, perfectly fine to get it on with a child.
if the average life was 30 then explain this, his like 51 already his pass the age of 30 lol
If muhamamd was in our time, one of his wives would be a transgender ;)
@@humilicioushe said average, you Buffoon
Doesn’t matter how you put it… a man with grey hairs shouldn’t be marrying a 6 year old child
Who you?
Why is a man discussing sexual activity of a grown man with a young girl.?
A woman should be addressing this topic.
I find this very uncomfortable listening to grown men talking and laughing about sexual abuse of a child.
Not Good.
Listen, there are two answers to this, either all of humanity was wrong before the 19th century... Or you are ignorant about world history.
@@AzelVonAzraelall humanity was wrong before the 19th century yes
If your Quran is a true revelation of God, then there will not have to be any effort from outside material (which was written after your prophet was murdered for his evil ways) to back track, override, twist the actual word's and manipulate your own interpretation instead of taking your god allah at his words?