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Show of the Weekend becoming whatever they want to do or talk about, regardless of its connection to video games, is my favorite era of Show of the Weekend
On the first video introducing this channel, they did say they'd make videos about just whatever if they thought they could make it interesting. That editorial promise is fulfilled, and it is glorious.
I've often commented that they totally underestimate our love for them (all the Oxboxtra five) and how much of their content we'll watch. The 8 hour XBOX launch live was too short dammit.
What do you mean you last thought about Avatar in 2009, Luke? You forced Andy to watch it during lockdown, and that's how you fell down the rabbit hole of Disney Channel Original Movies with him, eventually producing a stellar podcast to salvage something from the experience.
_Somewhere in the UK Luke feels a chill run down his spine as he realises_ so... let me get this right... what you're saying is that we can thank Avatar for Mom Can't Cook?!
Luke wondering why this is now his problem when it’s clearly Andy’s elaborate revenge plot for when Luke forced HIM to watch Avatar on Disney+, which lead to watching every DCOM and having to launch a podcast about it 😂 P.S. Please go listen to Mom Can’t Cook if you haven’t, it is absolute gold ❤
"I tire of your human ways. Blublublublublub." - James Cameron, 2022 Fun fact: phlebotinum, the actual trope name for a sci fi macguffin substance, sounds less made up than "unobtainium", which had to have been a placeholder. Except generally when you keep a placeholder in the finished product, it's because the placeholder is *good*. Anyway if anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome.
They probably won't, but as someone who did see it RPX 3D, it's a movie that really wanted to be (and whose story would have been better served by being) a 60 hour JRPG. Or even a Dark Pictures Anthology style game.
I enjoyed this. Would love more movie reviews from Ellen. Maybe in December, do a movie watch along on Sunday night and a review the following Saturday.
There is _dangerous_ potential to combine this with Fear Academy. John Carpenter's _The Thing_ comes to mind. {spends a while thinking about it} Okay, so that's actually the only really good horror movie I've ever seen.
It's interesting that Ellen felt the action shots were blurry, because there's a reason for that. For the new theatrical release, James Cameron added 48 fps motion interpolation to the action shots to reduce strobing.
This reminded me of the pre-pandemic Show of the Weekend. Most people watch it for the quizzes and games, sure, but the random conversations at the start where usually my favorite part.
My ex best friend was absolutely obsessed with Avatar. She also claimed to be a elemental deity who drew her power from a cloud that she would call to during playtime. These were related character traits.
"Sigourney Weaver's character died in the first one so she doesn't have to be in the sequel - or does she?" Insert Sigourney Weaver "Well, screw that!" scene from Galaxy Quest.
It is kinda his thing though "I wanna film X" cameraman: "but no camera in the world can do that1" Cameron: "well, that just means the world needs better cameras!"
I think they've been working on several sequels concurrently, too. I recall something about plans for a five-part series? Lots of studio work with the cast, followed by many years of post-production for each subsequent installment.
to be fair Avatars was literally designed to be watched in IMAX(James Cameron literally helped develop new 3d filmng cameras to do this) watcihing it in 4dx is like looking at it thorugh caterax while a kid behind you shakes your chair kickes you in the back and a kid in front sprays you in the face with a plant mister.
Exactly. It's all about watching something designed for the medium. 4d works great in theme parks and meusums. But also I can't imagine such a thing lasting the length of a full feature film. That's just too much. The only 3D and IMAX movies I've watched have been the documentaries they show at the California Science center. They work great, the technology has really improved over the years and the fact the films air in a theater specifically designed for them, makes it work.
I watched Avatar when it first came out and I though the 3D was okay. Maybe not as good as How To Train Your Dragon. But it was fine and the visuals were pretty. But the chief thing I remember was, after ten minutes, figuring out the entire plot from beginning to end and then just ticking off each thing in my mind as it came up. It had one of the most cliched and predictable stories I'd ever seen! I also never figured out how it was so successful. Star Wars had people queuing around the block, watching the film and then queuing up again. But I honestly don't know anyone who watched Avatar twice. I didn't hate it, not like Independence Day: Resurgence (don't get me started). I just watched it and was fine never to watch it again. That's that off my chest after 12 years.
To me Avatar felt a lot like an extremely long FMV intro for a Final Fantasy game, except they forgot to include the playable parts once the intro ends. It looks amazing (assuming you see it in IMAX), it sounds amazing, it feels extremely video gamey (I actually played the game and probably enjoyed that more than the movie).
I remember watching a film that looked like an extremely long FMV once, but it had a little bit of interactivity to it, probably some new function of BLU-RAY disc that the PS3 supported, that let you interact with parts of the movie. I think it was called "Guns of the Patriots" or something like that.
luke was downright CUTTING this episode and as a person who has always described avatar as the perfect costco big screen tvs showcase movie i completely agree with him.
It's just a live action Ferngully in space. I love when you talk about whatever comes to mind and not necessarily just video games. It's pretty but that's about it. I can't remember a single character's name, not the actors, but their characters.
Luke's summary of how James Cameron spends his time (starting at 9:30) is one of my favorite Luke monologues now. He's honestly so eloquent, especially when he's talking about or describing objectively stupid things.
Great, now in addition to hearing "He runs around! All over town!" whenever someone mentions Sephiroth, I'll be hearing "blubb blubb blubb blubb" whenever someone mentions James Cameron.
I remember Avatar fever and was totally swept up in it, it was one of the only things my brother and I ever agreed on was how cool it was and I think we went like 3 times
Am I the only one that unironically likes Avatar? I got super into it back in the day and still think it’s great (even if it’s a little bit problematic)
You're not alone. It's a decent movie. Not even close to how bad some people say it is. I think the hype was why people felt like crapping on it. Outstanding visuals, great cast, sure a plot that isn't great but serviceable and same can be said for the writing.
If it was a cult classic, I'd be great, but the fact that it's marketed and talked about as the greatest, most immersive movie ever is annoying to a lot of people because there are so many equally rich and immersive fantasy/adventure stories out there.
Listen, we've all had fun here ragging on Avatar but I genuinely think it's good for the film industry that old Jim Cameron can make these wild blockbusters, which look super unique compared to most modern blockbusters, revolutionise film tech, change how big films are made, then fuck of for 13 years till he's ready to do it again. 10/10 Pro move, we love to see it
I've been saying for a while now that people ragging on avatar regardless of wether or not they liked it are just trying to score points or something. Movies for me are about fantasy and escapism and Avatar does that beautifully, is it as good as other movies that do that such as LOTR? no definitely not but its still a great film and I'm looking forward to the sequel. I also wish show of the weekend would go back to its original format. these episodes have not been as enjoyable for me.
It's my brother's favorite movie ever. I turned it off halfway through because I wasn't enjoying it, and didn't find a single character to be worthwhile, sympathetic, or relatable in any way. When Giovanni Ribisi manages to come off his unlikable, you've done something wrong.
4:17 Luke driven to drink after less than 5 mins of Avatar talk. 😆 Was not expecting Luke's Avatar trash talk to open my weekend, but I'm here for it. 🍿 Especially as I recently just watched the re-release of Honest Trailers Avatar.
I wanted to interrupt Luke, Phoenix Wright style, and remind him of the Pixar short Piper; hands down, *the* most gorgeous water animation commited to film
I was ine if the weirdos who watched it in theaters multiple times. The story was very simplistic, but there were a lot of actors I liked in it, and the visuals were insane for the time. They haven't aged great, but that's any heavily CGI movie after a while. I also really like the creature designs, and the designs of the human vehicles and tech.
Re: Unobtainium... have you ever looked at some of the things that scientists have named things? Cummingtonite, Moronic Acid, SHH (a gene named after Sonic the HedgeHog), Penguinone, Turdus Maximus, Spiny Lumpsucker... the list goes on and on and on and on and...
My random Avatar anecdote is that my school went on a trip to see the weird CG Christmas Carol in 3D, and the cinema accidentally showed the first few minutes of Avatar before correcting their mistake. And this was a few weeks before the release date so I technically saw it early (or at least part of it) 😂 But otherwise, yeah, not a great film lol
My most jarring memory of watching Avatar in 3D was a scene when two people in the foreground were having a conversation, and then there was a focus shift to the background. In 2D movies, that helps to shift the viewer's attention. In 3D, it felt like you had sudden uncontrollable eye damage, unless your centre of vision exactly followed the focal plane as it shifted. Something that should have been evident if Cameron had spent a fraction of the budget on actually experimenting and learning how to use 3D. But alas, he's the master of turning massive budgets into (lucrative) trash. And yes, that goes for Titanic and Aliens as well. He could have spent a fraction of the budget on hiring script writers as well. Or competent actors other than Weaver. But nope. Special effects and explosions. And hair tentacles.
I don't recall that happening at all in Avatar, and I recently rewatched it. I remember being bugged when the photos were shown in 3D. Otherwise, good 3D viewing for me.
I remember Titanic on VHS (it came with 2 cassettes). One time I put in the 2nd cassette and said "Alright, let's sink this (censored). My gf at the time said "The boat, or DiCaprio?" The answer was yes
Fun anecdote noone asked for about my viewing of this movie back in 2009. I actually worked at a cinema and we had a big work Xmas party where we got to see Avatar before release day. It was a whole thing. We had food. Drinks. And even a stupid ugly sweater contest. But then it was time for the big show. And there was a coworker my dumb 19yo self was crushing on (and they were crushing back. So I thought) we had talked about sitting together for it. Except She ended up sitting with Casey. Who was our stoner usher kid who was about as smart as a bag of donuts. Just no thoughts in there. And I remember being so bummed out about it. And it's fine. Shit happens. But what made it w o r s e, was that I had to see them hold hands while also having to sit through what felt like 3 hours of weird blue people nonsense in 3d. And the compound effect has made me never watch avatar again since that night. It was petty annoying, sure. But ended up hanging out with my best mate afterwards, with a pack of Mike's hard lemonade and a cheap little Ceasars pizza and we played Halo 1 co-op all night. That was fun. I was such an idiot back then haha Now, if you'll excuse me, imma go have a casual existential crisis about avatar being over a decade ago 😵💫
The most memorable part of watching Avatar was I helped my mother make deep fried mashed potato balls to eat during the movie. We called "elbow magnets" since I accidentally knocked one off the plate with my elbow. They were good. Some of the designs were kind of cool. Not the six legged panther thing, but some of the other designs.
I only saw Avatar (2009) last year (2021) because it was on Disney+ . The first 3D-film-in-the-theatre experience I had was "Life of Pi" (2012), and that was gorgeous.
I watched Avatar on release with my family and friends. I was 11 at the time, more or less. My dad was like "Hey son, wanna watch this great movie called Avatar?" and of course I was really excited! Watch Avatar? In cinema? In 3D? Hell yes! So we went to watch, and clearly something was wrong. I was like, where's Aang? Where's Katara and Sokka? Where's Toph? And then the blue aliens appeared and let me remind you I was 11 year old watching the movie in 3D. Suffice to say I watched the rest of the movie with the glasses of. So, long story short, uh... I don't like Avatar. But hey, it turns out it was better than the actual Avatar the Last Airbender movie, so there's that!
@@DucklynStark I have no clever response XD I knew the code, and I broke it intentionally. I had to. I can't assume everyone here knows Avatar the Last Airbender, so I had to drop the name somehow. Guilty as charged XD
I feel like the people in 2009 who were like "its so immersive I watched it 12 times I want to live in pandora" were just people who didn't deign to watch fantasy films before avatar
This is relevant to nobody but me, but it is so relieving to see Ellen on the show. Why is it a relief? Because I had the strangest dream last night that Ellen and Mike were brutally fired by Andy, and I wasn’t sure if it was a dream or not when I had woken up. This dream was sandwiched between two other equally bizarre and dour dreams
I saw Avatar, 13 years ago like a normal person, in both 3d and in a normal cinema. It looks amazing without 3d. The plot, dialogue and most of the acting is abysmal. However the world building is astonishing. Someone, I'm willing to bet serious money it was not Cameron, did a lot of thinking about how things work on Pandora and it shows. I'll go see Way of Water in a no effects cinema to see more of that, I'll ignore whatever ridiculous plot Jim Cameron has come up with.
I remember when I went to see this in the original Avatar in 3d with my mother. I thought of what might be good and bad about 3d and was proven right while watching. Real 3D Theatre already exists, you can go to a theater production with live actors! We are faking 3D for movies with two flat images. It may eventually be a massive upgrade similar to plays just where actors appear to be in the room with you, and have more immersive scenes. 3D film isn't there yet. Much of what we see can not only be blurry but have double vision and while you can mimic that you might also screw it up because we are faking 3D. Having jungle leaves etc. in the foreground that don't focus properly if you try to look at them because the camera is focused on the characters can be disorienting. It really helps to let the film direct your eyes(if you can tell where it wants you too look anyway). There is real potential for vertigo when you try to give an audience an accurate detailed birds eye view of any scene. As for the theatre making more active seats trying to turn the movie into a carnival ride, yeah even back in the days of "Kentucky Fried Movie" there were good jokes of theaters going too far trying to immerse you into a film. . . While the film is much like Dances with Wolves in space, there is some good sci fi and the literal connection to nature this alien world has is pretty cool. I hope the sequel has better story direction because it did seem creating this fancy tech for making alien faces respond to actors became too much of their focus. Aliens was the first ever sequel to gross more money than it's predecessor(it was titled Aliens instead of Alien 2 because of the belief moviegoers disliked sequels). This proves Cameron can do good follow up work so no pressure!
Never saw Avatar (didn't think the world needed another movie where a white guy saves an indigenous people by becoming the best of them), but I've always been amazed at how a movie that successful made no cultural impact. No one quotes it, references it, nothing. It's like everyone came out of it and couldn't think of a single thing worth talking about.
One of the reasons Avatar resonated with people in 2009, was there weren't big event films like there are today with the Marvel movies & TV shows coming out every year, or every other year. Back in 2009, spectacle was still reserved for the big screen. So, when Avtar hit, it didn't matter if it was "Pocahontas in Space", or "Dances with Wolves in Space". It was an event film you had to see to be part of a global consciousness... Similar to how going to the theater was a big social event in the Elizabethan age, and going to the movies in general used to be before streaming services took over and movie theaters gradually started to die out.
Avatar is a fairy tale, that's it. Visually stunning for its time, and schematically simplistic in some other ways. I loved it a lot. This suss talk was very entertaining nevertheless :D
Avatar was pretty, but the central premise of 'this is a magical cure for someone in a wheelchair' STILL really bugs me. Maybe they'll surprise us and let disabled people be next time, though I doubt it.
I remember a grimly real line of narration where Sully mentions that the future's medical technology could treat his spinal injury, but it's simply not something he can afford on veteran's benefits.
I've not seen show of the weekend before but its good to see Andy's band days in Capisce paid off. TimeCrisis4 is still saved on my phone - absolute choon🎶
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Ah I've been getting them a lot. I've been ignoring them cause it just felt fishy. Thnx for letting us know the truth ❤️
Thanks for announcing this. It's been going on rather a long time.
You know you've made it big when you get your own scam impersonator, all the top channels have them these days :P
I bet it was James Cameron, resurfacing to harass you for Luke's poor opinion of Space Pocahontas.
Show of the Weekend becoming whatever they want to do or talk about, regardless of its connection to video games, is my favorite era of Show of the Weekend
On the first video introducing this channel, they did say they'd make videos about just whatever if they thought they could make it interesting. That editorial promise is fulfilled, and it is glorious.
Every time Jon interjects it's pure gold.
One thing I love is how exasperated parent energy is interchangable between Luke and Ellen depending on the subject matter😁
Exasperated Parent is a major role in the show and it's great that everyone, especially the guests, has had a turn with it.
My favorite is when Andy has to be their dad.
i know they’ve said most of this conversation wasn’t used during fear academy but i would unironically love to watch this entire conversation
I've often commented that they totally underestimate our love for them (all the Oxboxtra five) and how much of their content we'll watch. The 8 hour XBOX launch live was too short dammit.
What do you mean you last thought about Avatar in 2009, Luke? You forced Andy to watch it during lockdown, and that's how you fell down the rabbit hole of Disney Channel Original Movies with him, eventually producing a stellar podcast to salvage something from the experience.
_Somewhere in the UK Luke feels a chill run down his spine as he realises_ so... let me get this right... what you're saying is that we can thank Avatar for Mom Can't Cook?!
@@dee... Yes we can, no I won't.
I wanted to scream this the entire time, but he admitted to it in the end, so all's good lol
Even had the gall to use the same joke. The nerve XD
wait what? where's this podcast?
Luke wondering why this is now his problem when it’s clearly Andy’s elaborate revenge plot for when Luke forced HIM to watch Avatar on Disney+, which lead to watching every DCOM and having to launch a podcast about it 😂
P.S. Please go listen to Mom Can’t Cook if you haven’t, it is absolute gold ❤
I'm a fish boooy...
This is Luke's penance for forcing Andy to watch it
Come to think of it, some of my favourite SOTW eps have been ones where Luke and Ellen talk about movies/tv shows. More of this please.
"I tire of your human ways. Blublublublublub." - James Cameron, 2022
Fun fact: phlebotinum, the actual trope name for a sci fi macguffin substance, sounds less made up than "unobtainium", which had to have been a placeholder. Except generally when you keep a placeholder in the finished product, it's because the placeholder is *good*. Anyway if anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome.
Ellen: gets off track talking about the aliens film
Luke: Ellen, this a show about video games, you’re supposed to be talking about the avatar film
You both have to do a follow up to this when you see Avatar - the way James Cameron funds exploring deep water
They probably won't, but as someone who did see it RPX 3D, it's a movie that really wanted to be (and whose story would have been better served by being) a 60 hour JRPG. Or even a Dark Pictures Anthology style game.
I enjoyed this. Would love more movie reviews from Ellen. Maybe in December, do a movie watch along on Sunday night and a review the following Saturday.
Totally would love to see this. Film reviews, yes please
Would love to see the review of A Christmas Story
@@vict4451 or Tim Burtons nightmare before Christmas?
@@bilbo_t_baggins2762 YES!
There is _dangerous_ potential to combine this with Fear Academy.
John Carpenter's _The Thing_ comes to mind.
{spends a while thinking about it}
Okay, so that's actually the only really good horror movie I've ever seen.
10:16 "I can't wait to watch Avatar II for some reason."
That's the Stokholm Syndrome talking, Luke
It's interesting that Ellen felt the action shots were blurry, because there's a reason for that. For the new theatrical release, James Cameron added 48 fps motion interpolation to the action shots to reduce strobing.
Really? I didn't notice.
I love, love their description of 4DX as being kicked in the back by Hugo weaving
This reminded me of the pre-pandemic Show of the Weekend. Most people watch it for the quizzes and games, sure, but the random conversations at the start where usually my favorite part.
My ex best friend was absolutely obsessed with Avatar. She also claimed to be a elemental deity who drew her power from a cloud that she would call to during playtime. These were related character traits.
Ironically, the deity in Avatar does not draw power from a cloud. The power apparently comes from the planet.
Ah. An Otherkin.
Ellen doing a cat hiss: Adorable
Luke doing a cat hiss: Abject terror.
"Sigourney Weaver's character died in the first one so she doesn't have to be in the sequel - or does she?" Insert Sigourney Weaver "Well, screw that!" scene from Galaxy Quest.
You mean "well [redacted for ratings reasons] that!"
Luke pulled out the diet coke like it was a bottle of vodka he needed to get through to keep his sanity xD
That is his emotional support diet coke/vodka lol
I was expecting Andy to come from off-screen and tip a double measure of rum into it.
Apparently avatar 2 took so long because the underwater tech Cameron wanted was not available until a few years ago
It is kinda his thing though "I wanna film X"
cameraman: "but no camera in the world can do that1"
Cameron: "well, that just means the world needs better cameras!"
I think they've been working on several sequels concurrently, too. I recall something about plans for a five-part series? Lots of studio work with the cast, followed by many years of post-production for each subsequent installment.
@@Amaritudine Afaik they filmed them all in one go. So now it's all just VFX work.
to be fair Avatars was literally designed to be watched in IMAX(James Cameron literally helped develop new 3d filmng cameras to do this) watcihing it in 4dx is like looking at it thorugh caterax while a kid behind you shakes your chair kickes you in the back and a kid in front sprays you in the face with a plant mister.
Exactly. It's all about watching something designed for the medium. 4d works great in theme parks and meusums. But also I can't imagine such a thing lasting the length of a full feature film. That's just too much.
The only 3D and IMAX movies I've watched have been the documentaries they show at the California Science center. They work great, the technology has really improved over the years and the fact the films air in a theater specifically designed for them, makes it work.
He could have done with without ripping of Roger Dean.
I watched Avatar when it first came out and I though the 3D was okay. Maybe not as good as How To Train Your Dragon. But it was fine and the visuals were pretty. But the chief thing I remember was, after ten minutes, figuring out the entire plot from beginning to end and then just ticking off each thing in my mind as it came up. It had one of the most cliched and predictable stories I'd ever seen! I also never figured out how it was so successful. Star Wars had people queuing around the block, watching the film and then queuing up again. But I honestly don't know anyone who watched Avatar twice. I didn't hate it, not like Independence Day: Resurgence (don't get me started). I just watched it and was fine never to watch it again.
That's that off my chest after 12 years.
The energy between Luke, Ellen, and Jon just had me laughing and grinning the entire video.
the fact they link ponytails when thye are getting it on then next use the same thing with animals always struck my as quite creepy and problematic.
To me Avatar felt a lot like an extremely long FMV intro for a Final Fantasy game, except they forgot to include the playable parts once the intro ends. It looks amazing (assuming you see it in IMAX), it sounds amazing, it feels extremely video gamey (I actually played the game and probably enjoyed that more than the movie).
That is a interesting way to see it
It's kinda like a ride, in the best ways. You don't expect great characters or exceptional plot from a theme park ride.
I remember watching a film that looked like an extremely long FMV once, but it had a little bit of interactivity to it, probably some new function of BLU-RAY disc that the PS3 supported, that let you interact with parts of the movie. I think it was called "Guns of the Patriots" or something like that.
luke was downright CUTTING this episode and as a person who has always described avatar as the perfect costco big screen tvs showcase movie i completely agree with him.
Luke decided he didn't just want to listen to Ellen talk about Avatar so he's making it all our problems too with a SotW xD
It's just a live action Ferngully in space. I love when you talk about whatever comes to mind and not necessarily just video games. It's pretty but that's about it. I can't remember a single character's name, not the actors, but their characters.
Man, Luke and Ellen are so adorable. Such positive wholesome friend energy.
That was a great snip-it. Now when are you going to release the full 1+hour long full version?😊
Luke's summary of how James Cameron spends his time (starting at 9:30) is one of my favorite Luke monologues now. He's honestly so eloquent, especially when he's talking about or describing objectively stupid things.
Great, now in addition to hearing "He runs around! All over town!" whenever someone mentions Sephiroth, I'll be hearing "blubb blubb blubb blubb" whenever someone mentions James Cameron.
I really miss these kinds of conversations on SOTWE, not least because we get to have great lines such as "is it a hair penis?"
I remember Avatar fever and was totally swept up in it, it was one of the only things my brother and I ever agreed on was how cool it was and I think we went like 3 times
Am I the only one that unironically likes Avatar? I got super into it back in the day and still think it’s great (even if it’s a little bit problematic)
You're not alone. It's a decent movie. Not even close to how bad some people say it is. I think the hype was why people felt like crapping on it.
Outstanding visuals, great cast, sure a plot that isn't great but serviceable and same can be said for the writing.
I like it too, probably the best movie that was released in 3D
I too enjoyed the movie as a whole, even if the story was a little generic IMO.
I loved the movie and still do.
If it was a cult classic, I'd be great, but the fact that it's marketed and talked about as the greatest, most immersive movie ever is annoying to a lot of people because there are so many equally rich and immersive fantasy/adventure stories out there.
Listen, we've all had fun here ragging on Avatar but I genuinely think it's good for the film industry that old Jim Cameron can make these wild blockbusters, which look super unique compared to most modern blockbusters, revolutionise film tech, change how big films are made, then fuck of for 13 years till he's ready to do it again. 10/10 Pro move, we love to see it
I've been saying for a while now that people ragging on avatar regardless of wether or not they liked it are just trying to score points or something. Movies for me are about fantasy and escapism and Avatar does that beautifully, is it as good as other movies that do that such as LOTR? no definitely not but its still a great film and I'm looking forward to the sequel. I also wish show of the weekend would go back to its original format. these episodes have not been as enjoyable for me.
There should be an entire series of the Oxtra crew watching and reviewing famous movies they somehow missed.
This absolutely made my morning, this was hilarious! You guys were on fire! Thanks so much!
I didn't realize anyone had such strong feelings about Avatar one way or the other.
It's such a nothing movie. Not bad per se, but there's a reason everyone forgot about it a year later lol.
It's my brother's favorite movie ever. I turned it off halfway through because I wasn't enjoying it, and didn't find a single character to be worthwhile, sympathetic, or relatable in any way. When Giovanni Ribisi manages to come off his unlikable, you've done something wrong.
You guys don't want a Zoe Saldana for every color of the rainbow?
The strongest feeling I ever managed to get from it was "we could have had something much more substantial from the money that was put into this".
It's always kind of had that lukewarm reception.
I think that Avatar: The Shape of Water would be a totally different type of film to the one planned! 😱
And probably a better one, if we’re being real
4:17 Luke driven to drink after less than 5 mins of Avatar talk. 😆 Was not expecting Luke's Avatar trash talk to open my weekend, but I'm here for it. 🍿 Especially as I recently just watched the re-release of Honest Trailers Avatar.
Returning to this video after a frankly unbelievable amount of Avatar references from Luke and Andy in Mom Can't Cook.
Wait, Luke - Moana has the best water physics you've ever seen? Maybe you need to be put in Mario Sunshine jail for excessive naysaying...
I wanted to interrupt Luke, Phoenix Wright style, and remind him of the Pixar short Piper; hands down, *the* most gorgeous water animation commited to film
I find it amazing that the water in the avatar 2 trailer is completely CG
I was ine if the weirdos who watched it in theaters multiple times. The story was very simplistic, but there were a lot of actors I liked in it, and the visuals were insane for the time. They haven't aged great, but that's any heavily CGI movie after a while. I also really like the creature designs, and the designs of the human vehicles and tech.
My first time watching avatar was about 2 years ago on my phone during a plane trip
Re: Unobtainium... have you ever looked at some of the things that scientists have named things?
Cummingtonite, Moronic Acid, SHH (a gene named after Sonic the HedgeHog), Penguinone, Turdus Maximus, Spiny Lumpsucker... the list goes on and on and on and on and...
My random Avatar anecdote is that my school went on a trip to see the weird CG Christmas Carol in 3D, and the cinema accidentally showed the first few minutes of Avatar before correcting their mistake. And this was a few weeks before the release date so I technically saw it early (or at least part of it) 😂
But otherwise, yeah, not a great film lol
My most jarring memory of watching Avatar in 3D was a scene when two people in the foreground were having a conversation, and then there was a focus shift to the background. In 2D movies, that helps to shift the viewer's attention. In 3D, it felt like you had sudden uncontrollable eye damage, unless your centre of vision exactly followed the focal plane as it shifted. Something that should have been evident if Cameron had spent a fraction of the budget on actually experimenting and learning how to use 3D. But alas, he's the master of turning massive budgets into (lucrative) trash. And yes, that goes for Titanic and Aliens as well.
He could have spent a fraction of the budget on hiring script writers as well. Or competent actors other than Weaver. But nope. Special effects and explosions. And hair tentacles.
I don't recall that happening at all in Avatar, and I recently rewatched it.
I remember being bugged when the photos were shown in 3D. Otherwise, good 3D viewing for me.
I remember Titanic on VHS (it came with 2 cassettes). One time I put in the 2nd cassette and said "Alright, let's sink this (censored). My gf at the time said "The boat, or DiCaprio?"
The answer was yes
Fun anecdote noone asked for about my viewing of this movie back in 2009.
I actually worked at a cinema and we had a big work Xmas party where we got to see Avatar before release day.
It was a whole thing. We had food. Drinks. And even a stupid ugly sweater contest.
But then it was time for the big show.
And there was a coworker my dumb 19yo self was crushing on (and they were crushing back. So I thought) we had talked about sitting together for it.
Except
She ended up sitting with Casey. Who was our stoner usher kid who was about as smart as a bag of donuts. Just no thoughts in there.
And I remember being so bummed out about it.
And it's fine. Shit happens.
But what made it w o r s e, was that I had to see them hold hands while also having to sit through what felt like 3 hours of weird blue people nonsense in 3d. And the compound effect has made me never watch avatar again since that night.
It was petty annoying, sure.
But ended up hanging out with my best mate afterwards, with a pack of Mike's hard lemonade and a cheap little Ceasars pizza and we played Halo 1 co-op all night.
That was fun.
I was such an idiot back then haha
Now, if you'll excuse me, imma go have a casual existential crisis about avatar being over a decade ago 😵💫
That story was 100 times more interesting than watching avatar!
This is a much better plot and lore than Avatar could ever hope to be
The most memorable part of watching Avatar was I helped my mother make deep fried mashed potato balls to eat during the movie. We called "elbow magnets" since I accidentally knocked one off the plate with my elbow. They were good.
Some of the designs were kind of cool. Not the six legged panther thing, but some of the other designs.
I only saw Avatar (2009) last year (2021) because it was on Disney+ . The first 3D-film-in-the-theatre experience I had was "Life of Pi" (2012), and that was gorgeous.
I watched Avatar on release with my family and friends. I was 11 at the time, more or less. My dad was like "Hey son, wanna watch this great movie called Avatar?" and of course I was really excited! Watch Avatar? In cinema? In 3D? Hell yes!
So we went to watch, and clearly something was wrong. I was like, where's Aang? Where's Katara and Sokka? Where's Toph? And then the blue aliens appeared and let me remind you I was 11 year old watching the movie in 3D. Suffice to say I watched the rest of the movie with the glasses of.
So, long story short, uh... I don't like Avatar. But hey, it turns out it was better than the actual Avatar the Last Airbender movie, so there's that!
What movie are you walking about. There was never a live action Avatar: The Last Airbender movie.
*there is no movie in Ba Sing Se*
@@DucklynStark I have no clever response XD
I knew the code, and I broke it intentionally. I had to. I can't assume everyone here knows Avatar the Last Airbender, so I had to drop the name somehow. Guilty as charged XD
@@mar_speedman *The Dai Li will be in touch shortly*
@@Storyman09 I will surrender myself to the authorities willingly
@@mar_speedman The Earth King has invites you ti Lake Loagai (I don't know the spelling)
I liked avatar when it came out. Visually it was good for its time and the story is just pocahontas in space.
I think it visually holds up pretty well to this day. It looks better than most recent Marvel movies.
The sheer misery on Luke is amazing in this.
I hope you are ready for like 4 sequels being filmed back to back lol
I saw a report they started filming the first part of the 4th sequel yesterday
I feel like the people in 2009 who were like "its so immersive I watched it 12 times I want to live in pandora" were just people who didn't deign to watch fantasy films before avatar
yes! this is exactly the vibe I always got.
This is relevant to nobody but me, but it is so relieving to see Ellen on the show. Why is it a relief? Because I had the strangest dream last night that Ellen and Mike were brutally fired by Andy, and I wasn’t sure if it was a dream or not when I had woken up. This dream was sandwiched between two other equally bizarre and dour dreams
I watched Avatar when it came to television during a sleep study. It was so “nothing,” but there wasn’t anything else on so I was stuck there.
Listening to Luke talk about Avatar was a highlight of my day
This feels like a secret bonus episode of Mom Can't Cook
Having watched this, I appreciate the choices made. Luke and Ellen hissing at the camera is absolutely the right choice for the thumbnail.
I just wanna see what kind of odd alien sealife they’ve come up with. The alien animals are the big draw of Avatar for me.
The Na'vi connecting to the animals to ride them makes me think of riggers from Shadowrun.
"Avatar is just Pocahontas"
Fern Gully: "am I a joke to you?"
I can't believe that Mariana Grande Trench got no love from Luke!
I remember news reports of people saying they were suffering from depression, because they could never live on Pandora! 🤔
This was hilarious! No better way to start the day, thanks!
I watched and loved "Avatar" back when it was called "Dances with Wolves."
I want a show of the weekend where both review the avatar movie tie in game
I saw Avatar, 13 years ago like a normal person, in both 3d and in a normal cinema. It looks amazing without 3d. The plot, dialogue and most of the acting is abysmal.
However the world building is astonishing. Someone, I'm willing to bet serious money it was not Cameron, did a lot of thinking about how things work on Pandora and it shows. I'll go see Way of Water in a no effects cinema to see more of that, I'll ignore whatever ridiculous plot Jim Cameron has come up with.
I remember when I went to see this in the original Avatar in 3d with my mother. I thought of what might be good and bad about 3d and was proven right while watching. Real 3D Theatre already exists, you can go to a theater production with live actors! We are faking 3D for movies with two flat images. It may eventually be a massive upgrade similar to plays just where actors appear to be in the room with you, and have more immersive scenes. 3D film isn't there yet.
Much of what we see can not only be blurry but have double vision and while you can mimic that you might also screw it up because we are faking 3D. Having jungle leaves etc. in the foreground that don't focus properly if you try to look at them because the camera is focused on the characters can be disorienting. It really helps to let the film direct your eyes(if you can tell where it wants you too look anyway). There is real potential for vertigo when you try to give an audience an accurate detailed birds eye view of any scene. As for the theatre making more active seats trying to turn the movie into a carnival ride, yeah even back in the days of "Kentucky Fried Movie" there were good jokes of theaters going too far trying to immerse you into a film. . .
While the film is much like Dances with Wolves in space, there is some good sci fi and the literal connection to nature this alien world has is pretty cool. I hope the sequel has better story direction because it did seem creating this fancy tech for making alien faces respond to actors became too much of their focus. Aliens was the first ever sequel to gross more money than it's predecessor(it was titled Aliens instead of Alien 2 because of the belief moviegoers disliked sequels). This proves Cameron can do good follow up work so no pressure!
Never saw Avatar (didn't think the world needed another movie where a white guy saves an indigenous people by becoming the best of them), but I've always been amazed at how a movie that successful made no cultural impact. No one quotes it, references it, nothing. It's like everyone came out of it and couldn't think of a single thing worth talking about.
In 2009 I literally stood up yelling when the end sequence started with the fighting.
"It looks like an MS-DOS game from 1995" HOLY CRAP THAT'S WHAT IT IS
One of the reasons Avatar resonated with people in 2009, was there weren't big event films like there are today with the Marvel movies & TV shows coming out every year, or every other year. Back in 2009, spectacle was still reserved for the big screen. So, when Avtar hit, it didn't matter if it was "Pocahontas in Space", or "Dances with Wolves in Space". It was an event film you had to see to be part of a global consciousness... Similar to how going to the theater was a big social event in the Elizabethan age, and going to the movies in general used to be before streaming services took over and movie theaters gradually started to die out.
"Unobtainium" always sounds like a Simpsons joke 😆
Avatar is a fairy tale, that's it. Visually stunning for its time, and schematically simplistic in some other ways. I loved it a lot.
This suss talk was very entertaining nevertheless :D
Avatar was pretty, but the central premise of 'this is a magical cure for someone in a wheelchair' STILL really bugs me. Maybe they'll surprise us and let disabled people be next time, though I doubt it.
I remember a grimly real line of narration where Sully mentions that the future's medical technology could treat his spinal injury, but it's simply not something he can afford on veteran's benefits.
Does Ellen have a white graphic liner on? It looks lovely! Really ties in with her hair
"I don't want to keep talking about James Cameron's real D" isn't a sentence I thought I'd hear today
Luke at peak savage. And I love it.
Submarine dwelling James Cameron just popping up and descending back below the waves is a deightful visual :D
I've been hissing like a cat for who knows how long, I don't do it constantly but sometimes when I see something I don't like etc. I just do it.
Ellen is a treasure
The only thing I remember about avatar was my teacher used it to write an example poem for our poetry unit in year 6
This is the sassiest Luke has ever been. How did Avatar hurt him?
Re: Disney Channel original movies on Disney+, there's one called The Color Of Friendship about apartheid which is surprisingly good.
The one and only time I watched Avatar was on the seat-back screen on an international flight XD. Y'know, the way nature intended.
The thing that stuck in my head from watching Avatar was: that's how tall Hagrid should have been…albeit three times as wide ;-)
I literally thought to myself on Friday that I never want to see any Avatar content again and then this comes out. Why must you hurt me like this! 😂😭
Cut content: Johnny crashes in and says "And that's the story of why Andy has a blood vendetta against Luke"
I've not seen show of the weekend before but its good to see Andy's band days in Capisce paid off. TimeCrisis4 is still saved on my phone - absolute choon🎶
This movie is being absolutely savaged. It’s no Citizen Kane, but I thought it was decent enough.
i forgot avatar so hard that when i watched it last year i remembered seeing it in the cinema on release
Unobtanium is like naming a villain in the next Oxventure Placeholder Baddie Man.
It's a really good but highly derivative film, the only films that have really worked in 3D that I've seen are Dredd and Fury Road.