These cases are a reminder that substance use leads to a risky life-some people seem to escape all consequences, others pay the ultimate price. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.
Haha it's my favourite place. I'd go there every weekend if my husband let me 😂😂 chuck the kids in the playground, have a cuppa in the outdoor furniture area. It's my dream haha
This is disgusting. Whether or not he commited murder, he was a drug dealer and illegally stole and buried a dead body and his crimes involved a death. Then he lied to police and lied in court. We need much harsher punishments for these creeps. He should be in prison for life, no possibility of parole.
That's sad, I cannot imagine what his family has been through. To know your son's murderer walks free would be a hard pill to swallow. Great analysis, as always ❤️
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Based on the evidence and lies Michael told, It's highly likely that Michael killed Matt, rather than Matt dying from an accid overdose. Those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing. 😳😳😳😳Even though he wasn't convicted of murdering Matt, that doesn't mean he didn't kill him. His family believes he murdered Matt, as well as most who have heard this case. Therefore, it has got has got to be a hard pill for his mother to swallow, knowing her son's murderer has free.
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
There was a similar case not long before, around the back of an industrial property aligning the train tracks in Tempe-St. Peters. There was kind of a big waste water reservoir about that spot. I used to go past on the train all the time and think the abandoned back lot next to it looked creepy. When they excavated it to build they found the body of a 14 year old who had been working as a male prostitute, he'd been reported missing in the 1970s or 1980s.
Another cycle of abuse leading to a regrettable end (even if Michael didn't directly murder Matt). Thank you, as always, Dr. Grande, for another fine video.
The whole concept of "inadmissible evidence" really needs to get re-examined. Every time I ever heard of that, the judge was leaving out things that have obvious relevance, and any argument that the jury cant interpret it well even with the defence lawyer helping are extremely weak. It was only when I searched for examples that i finally saw some that seemed ok. It should be up to the defence lawyer to convince the jury "it's not how it looks", not convince a judge that evidence meets intentionally vague criteria for inadmissible.
Absolutely not. What you are suggesting is essentially legalizing abuse of power. The problem isn’t that the evidence was inadmissible, it’s that the authorities abused someone’s rights and made the evidence inadmissible. What you’ve basically suggested is that no one should have rights.
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. Fascinating case. Yes the prosecutors goofed with the case. They allowed the jury to acquit Michael. This means there was not enough evidence to find Michael guilty. As always I learn something new from your videos. Have a great evening.
New to your show, absolutely love love loving it! Find you interesting, in spite of corny 😅jokes and puns! Format delightfully refreshing Keep ‘em coming Doc! 🤣😍
Everyone please click the 👍. It's free and Dr. Grande definitely earns it by gathering all this good information on cases many of us have never heard of before.
They should have given him 10 years of solitary confinement for perjury then tell him if he agrees to tell them where the body is they will let him have a regular jail cell.
What percentage of cases you have covered involved a narcissistic perpetrator - I would suggest 85%. I know other personality factors are at work but if N is involved it’s got to be high 80s xxxxxx
Lust is not love. Lust is a selfish, often perverse desire; love is a selfless emotion. We need to stop misusing the word. People like these guys aren't "lovers," they were sex partners. True love would not have secretly buried the body of a loved one, murdered, brought other people into their bed, helped each other break God's laws, etc.
There should be NO REASON for any facts of the case being withheld from a jury! This case shows a murderer can go scot free because of some stupid American legal procedures alone.
He could have panicked because the guy OD'd and he felt he'd get serious prison time. If these things were just legal less people would die due to knowing exactly what they were taking and the correct dosages and people wouldn't feel the need to hide OD victims because people are responsible for what they put in their own bodies. And if they were just legal the prices would drop dramatically, curbing all the petty crime that goes along with getting money for it. Ive worked at a tier 1 law firm for 14 years and no one there has any clue I'm an addict, believe me I'd be tested and fired if people had suspicions. Instead of that I've received 2 above and beyond awards for all my hard work. Is this a perfect life? No but it's my right to put whatever I want into my body. You'd be shocked how many professionals I know who use.
I hear about a lot of these types of cases in which criminals get away with horrific crimes. Or get a slap on the wrist. In most US states “life” (usually only given in cases of premeditated murder) is only 25 yrs with chance of halving that for good behavior. I think I’m in the minority in believing we should have eye-for-an-eye punishments.
I had a client charged for pedofile acts on a girl of around 10 years of age. His police interview was dreadful and illegal. But it was admitted in Court and as he chose not to give evidence it convicted him. He is a very creepy person who lies even when it does not matter. He had a public defender who was in my opinion an idiot. As in the Matthew Levinson case without the illegal police interview he was unlikly to be convicted. But the illegal interview which he allowed to be used in court got him convicted and he spent quite a number of unpleasant years in jail during which time he was bashed a few times. In summery I think he was guilty as charged.
Dr. Grande I would like for you to come clean and admit that absolutely no one asks you to analyze these cases. You find them as part of your research for interesting content. If you do that I will give you a cookie. 🍪
Why is it that after someone commits murder they openly purchase tool to help get rid of a body? Not only do they purchase equipment, they keep the receipts 🙄
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
Coming from Sydney I remember this case clearly. It was a really shocking case and was in the news for a long time. So often in gay crime cases the Police make huge mistakes or don't seem to care. As per usual the legal system seems to be geared to protect the guilty. So often the victim of a crime ends up being painted as the criminal.
Here in Seppo land, we have civil suits for wrongful death. You may win the criminal case beyond the shadow of doubt, and I have never seen anyone get away in the civil suit that follows. It even wrecks innocent people, innocent cops all the time. Do they have anything like that in Bogan land?
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
I remember this case. It was so sad that this young mans parents where out digging every week looking for their sons remains. I can't imagine anything worse for any parent to have to go through.
As an Australian, I often shake my head in disbelief over all the travesties of justice I hear about happening in America (usually as a result of over zealous and punitive measures used inappropriately against vulnerable people), but then occasionally this sort of thing happens and I remember that this is the price some people have to pay for our more lenient and frankly completely incompetent and slack judicial system.
Or rather perhaps the fault as Dr Grande seemed to point out- wasn't so much in the judicial process itself but with an an absence of effective collaboration between police and prosecutors to achieve the correct outcome.
@@Alice-ui9oy Unless the family requested it, they should've never offered him a plea deal for perjury. They didn't need him to tell them where the body was because it was clearly in the park. It just seems like lazy police work. Instead of some justice being served they decided to make their jobs easier.
Occasionally? You can't be paying much attention to the shit show of a system in Australia. It's a global problem cos the fact law is not the same thing as justice. Not at all.
Knew both these guys from the gym I was working/training at. Still can’t believe he got away with it. He was very odd to say the least and they certainly were a unique couple.
@@alisonwonderland8680 honestly in my area at the time he probably had trouble coming out at his age. I know there was a lot of discrimination. I feel he was preyed upon online and then found himself in the drug and club scene. Initially I thought they were father and son 💦
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
He has culpability regardless. I suppose it’s possible that he didn’t murder Matt. However, He introduced a 20 year old kid to a life that was not good for him. He did so for his own pleasure. I feel so sorry for Matt’s family. A true tragedy.
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
@@yuckfoutube2259 Isn't the night club something they frequented? I think the older dude would have been used to flaunting him. Really weird situation regardless.
There's a podcast I listened to a while ago called 'Matty', which gives a massive insight into this case and his parents pleading for information. I listened to the whole thing in 2 days. It's heartbreaking for Matt's parents to not have their son. He deserves justice.
Drugs, alcohol, troubled upbringing with the 41 year old, hints of emotional dramas in this relationship, hints of some physical dramas between the two ….their relationship was out of balance from the start.
As an Aussie, it’s always surreal when you do a case that’s literally close to home. I will never understand how someone could feel the right or the desire to take someone else’s life.
As an Aussie you are pretending like you dont know a 235 history of Australians, feeling they have the right (or desire) to take someone else`s life. 🙄
@@herrguru4264 Oh for goodness sakes, stop blaming the sins of the long dead on the OP. There are plenty and many good and kind Australians and if you don't know that then you need to get out more.
Waiting 2yrs before actually meeting shows a level of responsibility on their behalf but all the drugs seem to have effected the relationship. This is such a sad outcome. Thanks for covering this case
At this stage of the game for me, hard drugs is a dealbreaker in even casual friendships. I've watched the slow death those make in people and their relationships before and I've had enough of that in my life. I'm not going to get butthurt over a little pot, or even a semi functional alkie, but any more than that and snip.
@@TheFaro2011 I’m with you… I enjoy people who are comfortable in their own skin. No mood or mind altering substances for this chic. I like to know who I’m actually dealing with in my life.
Pure Evil! Murderer. Creep. It is an absolute outage that this crook is free. *_Acquittal_*_ laws need to change. How is _*_double jeopardy_*_ justice, when new evidence comes forth? Also, it is so frustrating when important evidence has to be left out of a trial. _*_ALL evidence_*_ should be admissible! Laws need to change._
Not sure how it is in the UK, but in the US, prohibition of double jeopardy is in the constitution, so the constitution would need to be changed. Double jeopardy in the past was used far more to harrass people and to convict innocent people, than to convict a guilty person who got away with the crime. In the US, prosecutors will often sit on a case for years, until more evidence can be found. Or they will just go for some charges. Like in this case, if the prosecutor had just charged him with manslaughter, and then he was found innocent, they could later charge with murder (or vice versa, since the manslaughter and murder are 2 different charges.)
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
@@thelogicaldanger I support changing the Constitution so that double jeopardy can be set aside if significant new evidence is found. I understand the need for a prohibition of double jeopardy-otherwise some prosecutors would simply prosecute people over and over again with little justification-but there need to be exceptions.
@@jamesbowman6925 I think you could make a case for that, but realistically in today's environment, I don't think a constitutional amendment would ever pass. There are toddler states (like TX) whose representatives would refuse to vote for anything that a Democrat run state was voting for, no matter how good an amendment was. Which doesn't mean people shouldn't try, but it would be an uphill battle. The Equal Rights Amendment in 1972 was the last time a constitutional amendment was started, but it didn't get the necessary threshhold of states to vote for it until 2020 (at which point the amendment had already expired, so the whole process would have to start anew.)
Couldn't they charge him with improper disposal of a body? Maybe that was part of the plea deal though... It's seriously hope they asked the pants first if they'd rather get their son's body back or charge that person for 10 years.
Wouldn't hurt to look back on Mike's past relationships to see if any of them went missing. .even those on his computer for casual encounters. just to let our minds rest easy. Sounds kind of like a predator.
Disgusting human beings doing disgusting human things. All those disgusting things can be viewed objectively from a distance until one of those disgusting things happens to one of your loved ones. All the psychology, psychiatry, philosophy, religion, cctv, dna, gps cant stop these narcissistic, psychopaths.
Matt’s parents wanted to know where his body was buried. I always thought that this had a lot to do with the deal that his killer received. ( Note that it was the Royal National Park where he was found, which is not like a little suburban park ; )
Yep you’re correct. They wanted closure and a proper burial for their son. Shame he got a deal. He’s basically a monster walking amongst normal people. Who knows when he’ll snap.
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,* for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
Aussies have been heartbroken over every development in this case for years. There were so many times where the parents begged Michael to please just give them the location of Matt's body. They also asked the police to give him immunity so they could get his body back. I'm glad they did in the end, but it was something like 7 years. 7 years of that pos walking around free, saying he didn't know where Matt was. Everyone knew he at least knew where Matt's body was, even if he didn't actively kill him, which a lot of us still have doubts about.
Dr Todd, I went to the same clubs as Matt in the 2000's in Sydney. The drugs that were around at the time were really scary and highly toxic. We always felt that it was most likely an overdose as there were so many happening at the time. It's likely Michael panicked when he saw Matt overdosed and the rest is history. So tragic. The law was very hostile to gay people, especially then. Its not completely out of the question that Michael was concerned that he would be blamed for an overdose, according to the law, not of his making. This is the same when a female dies, any heterosexual man close by will always be a suspect. This needs to change.
This guy beat the system. Seemingly without even trying that hard. Talk about undeserved luck. The victims parents got screwed. Hopefully he never kills again, but I wouldn't bet on it.
I have seen a documentary or footage somewhere with him again partying with young gay guys still after all this happened, maybe if they are backpackers or drunk/high they won’t know who he is
Wow. I don’t understand why juries don’t get all the evidence. If they had , the outcome could have been very different. The police were sure he’d killed Matt but he still got Immunity. Wrong . I feel sorry for his poor parents - and michaels. They have to live knowing what their son had done. Tough call if they’re good people 🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
Thanks for covering another Aussie case. This one was so upsetting. Arc was a great club. what a sad ending after what should have been a fun night out. Can you please cover Hannah Clarke from Brisbane, Australia. ❤
It's always a HUGE red flag when there is such a massive age difference between partners. It speaks of an insecure, emotionally stunted, narcissistic-inclined, predatory older partner. Young people think they're invincible. And they are targeted because they lack resources and experience (not to mention a fully-developed brain) to make good decisions.
This case reminds me of a great joke: Red Riding Hood and the big bad wolf are walking through the deep, dark forest in the middle of the night. Red Riding Hood says: "Wow, it's kind of creepy here in the forest when it's all dark." The wolf responds: "Yeah, no kidding. And I'm going to have to walk back all alone!"
I don't harbor much sympathy for a situation like this. When you constantly put yourself in risky situations, you are inviting terrible people, places, and things into your life.
Of course Michael controlling. That is usually the sole reason someone as old as Michael would want a relationship with a 17 year old boy. The same is true in hetero relationships as well. The older person wants to control the younger person and it’s easier to do when they are very young rather than closer to their own age.
These cases are a reminder that substance use leads to a risky life-some people seem to escape all consequences, others pay the ultimate price. Thanks for covering this Dr. Grande.
The gay scene isn't exactly sober
@@TheFaro2011for sure
Wow very well said...
I’m Irish but I live in Australia and to hear Dr Grande say ‘Bunnings Warehouse’ makes me chuckle so much
Haha it's my favourite place. I'd go there every weekend if my husband let me 😂😂 chuck the kids in the playground, have a cuppa in the outdoor furniture area. It's my dream haha
I studied in Townsville for 2 years and I fell in love with Bunnings snags.
This is disgusting. Whether or not he commited murder, he was a drug dealer and illegally stole and buried a dead body and his crimes involved a death. Then he lied to police and lied in court. We need much harsher punishments for these creeps. He should be in prison for life, no possibility of parole.
That's sad, I cannot imagine what his family has been through. To know your son's murderer walks free would be a hard pill to swallow. Great analysis, as always ❤️
Except they don't know that.
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Based on the evidence and lies Michael told, It's highly likely that Michael killed Matt, rather than Matt dying from an accid overdose. Those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing. 😳😳😳😳Even though he wasn't convicted of murdering Matt, that doesn't mean he didn't kill him. His family believes he murdered Matt, as well as most who have heard this case. Therefore, it has got has got to be a hard pill for his mother to swallow, knowing her son's murderer has free.
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Id say they do absolutely know.
@@It-is-me...Melsie His cause of death was not determined, only one person knows how he died.
Thanks for covering these Australian cases. I had never heard of this before, very sad for Matt who was a young guy.
There was a similar case not long before, around the back of an industrial property aligning the train tracks in Tempe-St. Peters. There was kind of a big waste water reservoir about that spot. I used to go past on the train all the time and think the abandoned back lot next to it looked creepy. When they excavated it to build they found the body of a 14 year old who had been working as a male prostitute, he'd been reported missing in the 1970s or 1980s.
It's always Bunnings
I wonder how many killers they have supplied tools to 😅
Another cycle of abuse leading to a regrettable end (even if Michael didn't directly murder Matt). Thank you, as always, Dr. Grande, for another fine video.
This is horrible!!! Poor kid so sorry for his family!!!
The whole concept of "inadmissible evidence" really needs to get re-examined. Every time I ever heard of that, the judge was leaving out things that have obvious relevance, and any argument that the jury cant interpret it well even with the defence lawyer helping are extremely weak.
It was only when I searched for examples that i finally saw some that seemed ok.
It should be up to the defence lawyer to convince the jury "it's not how it looks", not convince a judge that evidence meets intentionally vague criteria for inadmissible.
Absolutely not. What you are suggesting is essentially legalizing abuse of power. The problem isn’t that the evidence was inadmissible, it’s that the authorities abused someone’s rights and made the evidence inadmissible.
What you’ve basically suggested is that no one should have rights.
@@sethrich5998 Thank you for your response, that comment really brought down my mood.
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
Dr Grande was born in Arizona! That's 2 personal details we now know. We love you Dr Grande!
I just heard about the children's author that killed her husband Kouri Richins. I would like to know your analysis of this case.
As always, thanks, Doc!
Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. Fascinating case. Yes the prosecutors goofed with the case. They allowed the jury to acquit Michael. This means there was not enough evidence to find Michael guilty. As always I learn something new from your videos.
Have a great evening.
No justice is so sad.
I think Matt's parents said they'd rather know where their son was buried than have his killer in prison never telling anyone where Matt's body was. 🤔
Such incompetent Prosecutors! Prayers for Matt's family 🙏
New to your show, absolutely love love loving it! Find you interesting, in spite of corny 😅jokes and puns! Format delightfully refreshing Keep ‘em coming Doc! 🤣😍
Love the background Dr Grande ! You’re the best 👏👏👏
Everyone please click the 👍. It's free and Dr. Grande definitely earns it by gathering all this good information on cases many of us have never heard of before.
Incredible incompetence from the police, and coroner.
Dr Grande, your content is amazing…just thought you should know it’s nurse’s orders (mine) that you take a couple days’ off!😆
Interesting how many videos on Australian cases
I love your videos! They are always interesting I just hope day I'm not the feature of one.
Imagine the stank in that apartment. Just gross.
This is so sad 😞
They should have given him 10 years of solitary confinement for perjury then tell him if he agrees to tell them where the body is they will let him have a regular jail cell.
But why did Michael kill Matt? Drug induced anger?
What percentage of cases you have covered involved a narcissistic perpetrator - I would suggest 85%. I know other personality factors are at work but if N is involved it’s got to be high 80s xxxxxx
He did it.
Can the parents sue Michael civilly?! I’m not sure how it works in Australia
Lust is not love. Lust is a selfish, often perverse desire; love is a selfless emotion. We need to stop misusing the word. People like these guys aren't "lovers," they were sex partners. True love would not have secretly buried the body of a loved one, murdered, brought other people into their bed, helped each other break God's laws, etc.
Thank you
Dr grande. Please consider doing an episode on the munchausen by proxy misdiagnosis scandal going on now at Lehigh Valley hospital in Allentown PA
Who said the perfect murder doesnt exist? 😮😮😮.
There should be NO REASON for any facts of the case being withheld from a jury! This case shows a murderer can go scot free because of some stupid American legal procedures alone.
This horrific predatory creep was not convicted when he was clearly guilty of murder and allowed to get away scott free...just disgusting.😢😮
He could have panicked because the guy OD'd and he felt he'd get serious prison time. If these things were just legal less people would die due to knowing exactly what they were taking and the correct dosages and people wouldn't feel the need to hide OD victims because people are responsible for what they put in their own bodies. And if they were just legal the prices would drop dramatically, curbing all the petty crime that goes along with getting money for it. Ive worked at a tier 1 law firm for 14 years and no one there has any clue I'm an addict, believe me I'd be tested and fired if people had suspicions. Instead of that I've received 2 above and beyond awards for all my hard work.
Is this a perfect life? No but it's my right to put whatever I want into my body. You'd be shocked how many professionals I know who use.
I hear about a lot of these types of cases in which criminals get away with horrific crimes. Or get a slap on the wrist. In most US states “life” (usually only given in cases of premeditated murder) is only 25 yrs with chance of halving that for good behavior. I think I’m in the minority in believing we should have eye-for-an-eye punishments.
He'll slip up. Look at OJ.
They were really goos buddies... and stuff.
A failure at every level from police all the way up to prosecution
I had a client charged for pedofile acts on a girl of around 10 years of age. His police interview was dreadful and illegal. But it was admitted in Court and as he chose not to give evidence it convicted him. He is a very creepy person who lies even when it does not matter. He had a public defender who was in my opinion an idiot. As in the Matthew Levinson case without the illegal police interview he was unlikly to be convicted. But the illegal interview which he allowed to be used in court got him convicted and he spent quite a number of unpleasant years in jail during which time he was bashed a few times. In summery I think he was guilty as charged.
Certainly a sausage mystery!
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This would be much better if Dr. Grande had an Australian accent
I think it's good to see an American take an interest in this locally known case. The planet doesn't revolve around Australia.
I hope karma gets to Michael someday.
He aged a lot in less than 10 years after Matt's passing.
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The guys a creep, stay away from older men!!!!
A lot of them are very dark.
Very shoddy stuff on behalf of the police.
Way to disparage the name creeps😎✌🏻
The alphabet group are like this.
Oh yeah, heteronormative people don’t unalive each other… 🙄🙄🙄
Particularly in Sydney's gay set, especially then.
Dr. Grande I would like for you to come clean and admit that absolutely no one asks you to analyze these cases. You find them as part of your research for interesting content. If you do that I will give you a cookie. 🍪
Why is it that after someone commits murder they openly purchase tool to help get rid of a body? Not only do they purchase equipment, they keep the receipts 🙄
Right? And they make their purchases at a big box store with cctv… I’d think a small mom and pop store would be easier to pay cash with no evidence.
Exactly!!
Trophies
Because they think they are smarter than anyone out there
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
Michael literally got away with murder. I feel for Matt's parents, searching relentlessly for his remains.
Yup. Last time this case came up on here, we didn't have this number of details. 100% with you on this.
He probably didn't kill him, just buried his overdosed lover
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
Could be worse
They should track the cell phone and have those areas searched. People are so sick anymore. 🧡🙏🏻
Coming from Sydney I remember this case clearly. It was a really shocking case and was in the news for a long time. So often in gay crime cases the Police make huge mistakes or don't seem to care. As per usual the legal system seems to be geared to protect the guilty. So often the victim of a crime ends up being painted as the criminal.
Character assassination of the victim. I've seen it before too when the victim is deemed "unsympathetic" smh
I think you're exactly right. Same with sex workers and female drug addicts and alcoholics. "They ask for it they deserve it."
Here in Seppo land, we have civil suits for wrongful death. You may win the criminal case beyond the shadow of doubt, and I have never seen anyone get away in the civil suit that follows. It even wrecks innocent people, innocent cops all the time. Do they have anything like that in Bogan land?
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
Leokim so glad to see u here again! I thought of u as soon as I head Sydney bc I knew u were from there. GOD bless u and ur spider channel 💞
He was buried on my regular walking trail. I walked past his body a hundred times 😢 Absolutely devastating for our whole community.
Yikes!
Where was he buried?
@@alisonwonderland8680 in a suburb called waterfall. There’s lots of National park lands in that area of the Sutherland shire.
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
That's so sad. Far out.
I remember this case. It was so sad that this young mans parents where out digging every week looking for their sons remains. I can't imagine anything worse for any parent to have to go through.
Were, not where. Bad spelling.
@@FlamsteretteDid not read the room. Bad reading.
@@abirdkilledmeh What does that have to do with anything? Bad spelling and grammar should be called out no matter what.
Please forgive my oopsie. Sorry that it offended you so much. 🙄@@Flamsterette
@@Flamsterette
Mistakes like that are often due to auto-spell or other programs like that.
As an Australian, I often shake my head in disbelief over all the travesties of justice I hear about happening in America (usually as a result of over zealous and punitive measures used inappropriately against vulnerable people), but then occasionally this sort of thing happens and I remember that this is the price some people have to pay for our more lenient and frankly completely incompetent and slack judicial system.
Or rather perhaps the fault as Dr Grande seemed to point out-
wasn't so much in the judicial process itself
but with an an absence of effective collaboration between police and prosecutors to achieve the correct outcome.
@@Alice-ui9oy Unless the family requested it, they should've never offered him a plea deal for perjury. They didn't need him to tell them where the body was because it was clearly in the park. It just seems like lazy police work. Instead of some justice being served they decided to make their jobs easier.
@@chantalsmissingselfawarene7655 agree 😔
Occasionally? You can't be paying much attention to the shit show of a system in Australia. It's a global problem cos the fact law is not the same thing as justice. Not at all.
Well Australia has the worst justice system next to UK
That's a huge age gap. Drugs never make relationships stable or positive, bring out dark sides. Great analysis. Thanks Dr G😊❣️❣️
Sugar daddies are never good
@@holdencawffle626 Agreed. The power dynamics lead to abuse.
Knew both these guys from the gym I was working/training at. Still can’t believe he got away with it. He was very odd to say the least and they certainly were a unique couple.
I wonder what Matt saw in him. Maybe a father figure perhaps. 🤷🏻♀️
@@alisonwonderland8680 honestly in my area at the time he probably had trouble coming out at his age. I know there was a lot of discrimination. I feel he was preyed upon online and then found himself in the drug and club scene. Initially I thought they were father and son 💦
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. It was a different time in Sydney in those days hey. It's so sad.
@@tessajones9393 certainly was in the Sutherland Shire.
Michael may not be in jail but he is not free. He knows what he did.
He has culpability regardless. I suppose it’s possible that he didn’t murder Matt. However, He introduced a 20 year old kid to a life that was not good for him. He did so for his own pleasure. I feel so sorry for Matt’s family. A true tragedy.
Most older men who date younger people do this!
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
@@yuckfoutube2259u have no idea what really happened
@@yuckfoutube2259 Isn't the night club something they frequented? I think the older dude would have been used to flaunting him. Really weird situation regardless.
There's a podcast I listened to a while ago called 'Matty', which gives a massive insight into this case and his parents pleading for information. I listened to the whole thing in 2 days. It's heartbreaking for Matt's parents to not have their son. He deserves justice.
Drugs, alcohol, troubled upbringing with the 41 year old, hints of emotional dramas in this relationship, hints of some physical dramas between the two ….their relationship was out of balance from the start.
Every time I hear Australia I'm like 🧐
As an Aussie, it’s always surreal when you do a case that’s literally close to home. I will never understand how someone could feel the right or the desire to take someone else’s life.
As an Aussie you are pretending like you dont know a 235 history of Australians, feeling they have the right (or desire) to take someone else`s life. 🙄
@@herrguru4264 Oh for goodness sakes, stop blaming the sins of the long dead on the OP.
There are plenty and many good and kind Australians and if you don't know that then you need to get out more.
Waiting 2yrs before actually meeting shows a level of responsibility on their behalf but all the drugs seem to have effected the relationship. This is such a sad outcome. Thanks for covering this case
At this stage of the game for me, hard drugs is a dealbreaker in even casual friendships.
I've watched the slow death those make in people and their relationships before and I've had enough of that in my life.
I'm not going to get butthurt over a little pot, or even a semi functional alkie, but any more than that and snip.
@@scurvofpcpfunny how alcohol is accepted worst drugs the most damage. Won't accept a drinker
He was just waiting for Matt to be legal and he could take him to nightclubs
@@NeeNee_B. ….holy sh!t, good point!
@@TheFaro2011 I’m with you… I enjoy people who are comfortable in their own skin. No mood or mind altering substances for this chic. I like to know who I’m actually dealing with in my life.
Pure Evil! Murderer. Creep. It is an absolute outage that this crook is free. *_Acquittal_*_ laws need to change. How is _*_double jeopardy_*_ justice, when new evidence comes forth? Also, it is so frustrating when important evidence has to be left out of a trial. _*_ALL evidence_*_ should be admissible! Laws need to change._
Not sure how it is in the UK, but in the US, prohibition of double jeopardy is in the constitution, so the constitution would need to be changed. Double jeopardy in the past was used far more to harrass people and to convict innocent people, than to convict a guilty person who got away with the crime. In the US, prosecutors will often sit on a case for years, until more evidence can be found. Or they will just go for some charges. Like in this case, if the prosecutor had just charged him with manslaughter, and then he was found innocent, they could later charge with murder (or vice versa, since the manslaughter and murder are 2 different charges.)
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
@@thelogicaldanger I support changing the Constitution so that double jeopardy can be set aside if significant new evidence is found. I understand the need for a prohibition of double jeopardy-otherwise some prosecutors would simply prosecute people over and over again with little justification-but there need to be exceptions.
This is also on the police. They should have followed the law. It's their fault as well.
@@jamesbowman6925 I think you could make a case for that, but realistically in today's environment, I don't think a constitutional amendment would ever pass. There are toddler states (like TX) whose representatives would refuse to vote for anything that a Democrat run state was voting for, no matter how good an amendment was. Which doesn't mean people shouldn't try, but it would be an uphill battle. The Equal Rights Amendment in 1972 was the last time a constitutional amendment was started, but it didn't get the necessary threshhold of states to vote for it until 2020 (at which point the amendment had already expired, so the whole process would have to start anew.)
Shining a light on the gay world and some of its darker aspects. Good episode.
Couldn't they charge him with improper disposal of a body? Maybe that was part of the plea deal though... It's seriously hope they asked the pants first if they'd rather get their son's body back or charge that person for 10 years.
Wouldn't hurt to look back on Mike's past relationships to see if any of them went missing. .even those on his computer for casual encounters. just to let our minds rest easy. Sounds kind of like a predator.
Disgusting human beings doing disgusting human things. All those disgusting things can be viewed objectively from a distance until one of those disgusting things happens to one of your loved ones. All the psychology, psychiatry, philosophy, religion, cctv, dna, gps cant stop these narcissistic, psychopaths.
Im so glad you covered this. I think of Mattys parents alot .😢
Matt’s parents wanted to know where his body was buried.
I always thought that this had a lot to do with the deal that his killer received.
( Note that it was the Royal National Park where he was found, which is not like a little suburban park ; )
Yep you’re correct. They wanted closure and a proper burial for their son. Shame he got a deal. He’s basically a monster walking amongst normal people. Who knows when he’ll snap.
Soo glad I subscribed to your channel. I love how often you upload. Your analysis/opinions of these cases are eye opening!
Tragic that Matt never got the chance to live his life, taken at such a young age by a callous narcissist. Thank you for the video.
I Love your Analysis of these topics Dr Grande. I really enjoy a daily video from you. Thank you.😊
Why is hiding a body always the first thing that comes to mind in situations like this 😂....no 911 call ?
Its 000 in Australia.
But I agree. Its always an accident so first thought.
Hide the body!
😅
The guy was also selling drugs…? (Assuming that it was an accidental death)
*Case study # 57298-19.001/C: on how White people commit murder and get away with murder,*
for the same crime a Latino or Black man would be jailed for 100 years* (minimum).
@@tessaducek5601911 will work here too because so many people know that number from tv lol
Aussies have been heartbroken over every development in this case for years. There were so many times where the parents begged Michael to please just give them the location of Matt's body. They also asked the police to give him immunity so they could get his body back.
I'm glad they did in the end, but it was something like 7 years. 7 years of that pos walking around free, saying he didn't know where Matt was. Everyone knew he at least knew where Matt's body was, even if he didn't actively kill him, which a lot of us still have doubts about.
Dr Todd, I went to the same clubs as Matt in the 2000's in Sydney. The drugs that were around at the time were really scary and highly toxic. We always felt that it was most likely an overdose as there were so many happening at the time. It's likely Michael panicked when he saw Matt overdosed and the rest is history. So tragic. The law was very hostile to gay people, especially then. Its not completely out of the question that Michael was concerned that he would be blamed for an overdose, according to the law, not of his making. This is the same when a female dies, any heterosexual man close by will always be a suspect. This needs to change.
I agree I'm not convinced he didn't over dose it's still so sad
This guy beat the system. Seemingly without even trying that hard. Talk about undeserved luck. The victims parents got screwed. Hopefully he never kills again, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Dr. Grande, bring back those party shirts, please
Dr Grande! Please do a video on this escape convict that was around where i live today! Danelo Cavalcante
There's only one worst police in the world than UKs one, tth Australian police.
How the fk did he get away with that they seriously fkd up there an Micheal goes free arrggggg omg!!!
He’ll be a pariah for the rest of his life and pay socially for what he did. What a coward you are Michael.
I have seen a documentary or footage somewhere with him again partying with young gay guys still after all this happened, maybe if they are backpackers or drunk/high they won’t know who he is
@@hannahe7814 Life is unfair sometimes. This is a prime example…
The family should have sued the police for their incompetence.
Wow. I don’t understand why juries don’t get all the evidence. If they had , the outcome could have been very different. The police were sure he’d killed Matt but he still got Immunity. Wrong . I feel sorry for his poor parents - and michaels. They have to live knowing what their son had done. Tough call if they’re good people 🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
Thanks for covering another Aussie case. This one was so upsetting. Arc was a great club. what a sad ending after what should have been a fun night out. Can you please cover Hannah Clarke from Brisbane, Australia. ❤
Sad case. Prosecution bungled that. Killer got away. Teflon Man. Hope there is karma for him.
It's always a HUGE red flag when there is such a massive age difference between partners. It speaks of an insecure, emotionally stunted, narcissistic-inclined, predatory older partner.
Young people think they're invincible. And they are targeted because they lack resources and experience (not to mention a fully-developed brain) to make good decisions.
This case reminds me of a great joke: Red Riding Hood and the big bad wolf are walking through the deep, dark forest in the middle of the night. Red Riding Hood says: "Wow, it's kind of creepy here in the forest when it's all dark." The wolf responds: "Yeah, no kidding. And I'm going to have to walk back all alone!"
I wonder if Matthew was heterosexual, would the police/DPP have been so accomodating when giving immunity to a potential murderer.
Alphabet privilege
I don't harbor much sympathy for a situation like this. When you constantly put yourself in risky situations, you are inviting terrible people, places, and things into your life.
11:27 Can you cover Ashton Kutcher being worried about touching a door knob when discovering a murder scene?
Of course Michael controlling. That is usually the sole reason someone as old as Michael would want a relationship with a 17 year old boy. The same is true in hetero relationships as well. The older person wants to control the younger person and it’s easier to do when they are very young rather than closer to their own age.