Aka is just better at quickly cycling menu off stage than most hero players, and he'll always choose that than dealing with the ledge situation against MK freaking Leo haha
Leo said he learned the names of the important spells (snooze, acceleratle, zoom, psyche up, oomph, kaboom, flame slash etc) which I imagine helped a lot lol
Crazy how it makes it to where Hero just doesn't have to play offstage disadvantage, Joker gets no ledgetrapping, and you just have to keep winning in neutral over and over again while Hero can do way more damage with fewer interactions. Still a massively losing matchup lmao
@@mannya.h.967 on paper, but in reality the mental fortitude to acknowledge the luck pull from opening the menu offstage, recognizing the spell and refreshing/using it consistently under stress is a lot more mechanical and adds to the mental weight in return. also zoom doesnt interfere with ledgetrapping as you would never use it at lengths where you are close enough to play the ledge.
@@pyropeshichidan8141 It is a lot easier when you realize that it isn't luck for the most part. Aka pulls the menu at a time where he can recover either way. There was 1 time when he truly just pulled the menu and prayed because he got edgeguarded, but other than that, a lot of it was confirming Zoom and drifting out towards the blast zone to waste Arsene or quickly choosing an option and Up B.
@pyropeshichidan8141 no zoom literally skips ledge. Like say I'm playing Samus and my win condition is ledge trapping my opponent to death. Hero can simply never go to ledge as long as he rolls zoom off stage. That's crazy lol
You get a much higher chance of getting zoom when you're close to the blast zone, thats why hero mains spam menu when they're off stage and aren't close enough to ledge without getting edge guarded
Still can't believe nothing was ever done about the language barrier for Hero. Obviously Leo did fine, but even from a casual perspective not giving any kind of option for symbols or anything is uncharacteristically unintuitive of the team.
Yeah, it would be way too much work for Hero spells to have little icons... I mean it would be such a break from the series fans would be mad, it's better to make Hero even more balanced so people won't know which spell he's gonna use, even if you know all his spells 😂🎉
There's really no reason for them to have to consider a language barrier. Realistically why would an American play a Japanese version of smash. Or a Mexican play a japanese version. Smash at its core is a casual game, they don't take competition into consideration. It's up to the player to learn the different languages at that point.
MKLEO y Septiembre son las ÚNICAS razones de las que estoy orgulloso de ser mexicano. English: MKLEO and September are the ONLY reasons I am proud to be Mexican.
MkLeo es el Cristiano Ronaldo del Smash es imposible no amarlo y la gran imagen que carga por ser el mejor jugador durante casi 3 y medio seguidos Una victoria del GOAT es una victoria para nosotros
@@Huckle777 hey let's give his byleth some credit. remember that time he went ultra instinct against kurama at LSI while at 160% and won? that's only one example I can think of off the top of my head but there's others like when he was suffocating Sparg0's cloud last stock of game 3(?) at genesis 8
I'm just a mid level player, but it never ceases to amaze me that people can even get this good at the game I feel like I wouldn't even be able to take a single stock in ten games with how quick they're moving
@@おかし-y7h I don’t think it’s possible to match a native reader’s recognition speed as a non-speaker. Even if he’s practiced it, I don’t think the advantage is gone entirely.
@@KevSB07maybe not in neutral but it was pretty easy to tell when guy had zoom lmao. Bro pulled it so many times offstage even I started to be able to read it XD
Honestly Miya will probably surpass it by the end of the year, but the thing about Leo's total major wins is that most of them are supermajors. No disrespect to Miya or anything but most of his major wins has just been from farming A tiers. The closest person to Leo's 17 supermajors is Acola's 10 I believe
Random question: What if you are a hero player and you play a tourney in japan? Even more, what if 2 hero players (one japanese and one english speaker) encounter in bracket?
You can never count mkleo out until he is completely out of the tournament. I have seen him reset the bracket and win the tournament so many times that it makes me question if he was falling to losers on purpose.
Random Hero thoughts, I think Zoom should be reworked, and here are two thoughts: 1. Zoom should work like Heal, where the more you use it per stock, the less it shows up. 2. Zoom should only be able to dump on the left, right, or center, but the Hero should be able to choose where he lands with that. That way, it can be slightly more down to reads and less complete luck
I know this is late but its a higher likelyhood in the blastzone. With proper Menu manipulation you can get Zoom about 2/3 of the time if you know what your doing
@@JonnyJayKhanHe's beaten Japan's 4th best Icies (Tomisa) and one of Japan's best Icies in FNKA with MK so it definitely does look like he's phasing out the Aegis for now. Interested to see what he'd pick against Asimo.
There's an added difficulty spike when playing against different region hero.... The language barrier, u just won't know wuts coming before it hits u !
What would happen if there was a tournament match between 2 pro Hero players. One of which speaks only Japanese and the other English. How could this match work if both menu's can only be in 1 language
Ngl this is something I forget about hero sense this Hero player is Japanese and the Joker player leo is Mexican the hero had such a big advantage with the Magic sense Leo im sure doesn’t understand Japanese.
This is very interesting cause akakikusu needs to read the spells but mkleo obviously can't. Cant really do anything but basically mkleo has to be prepared for anything to happen
Leo catching Akakikusu with up B while Akakikusu was coming down from zoom might be the most chad Joker play I've ever seen
time stamp?
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2:04
The commentator saying Leo is playing a different game and said black ops 6 it was so random but honestly hilarious lmao
It’s a reference to joker neutral b so not random but still super funny
@@joshuabrookbank2637it’s random cause black ops has nothing to do with smash
Still super random but it was funny lmao
So FUNNY IVE BEEN DYING FOR 15 MINUTES. The way the other guy said “haha what?” Just kills me.
😂😂😂😂
With the amount of zooms Hero got, even I learned how to read past the language barrier
I have seen more zooms in that first round than in entire matches.
Aka is just better at quickly cycling menu off stage than most hero players, and he'll always choose that than dealing with the ledge situation against MK freaking Leo haha
The commentators didn't even notice/care smh
@empanothing they acknowledge it lmao did you not notice😂
even not knowing how to read japanese can faze my glorious king, truly the mexican of all time
Leo said he learned the names of the important spells (snooze, acceleratle, zoom, psyche up, oomph, kaboom, flame slash etc) which I imagine helped a lot lol
MK LEO... IS... MEXICAN!
@@jinxeatsdust didn’t even learn kaclang to win…the GOAT aura strikes once again
lol, you didn’t even watch the interview
@@ZizouEnjoyer225 can’t make jokes now?
2:02 MKLeo was wild for that
Mkleo my GOAT
OUR goat
@@Boolahan THE goat
@@T_nab YOUR goat
@@BoolahanHIS goat
@@DeeezDonuts I concede
HOW MANY ZOOMS IS HE GOING TO PULL
Crazy how it makes it to where Hero just doesn't have to play offstage disadvantage, Joker gets no ledgetrapping, and you just have to keep winning in neutral over and over again while Hero can do way more damage with fewer interactions. Still a massively losing matchup lmao
@@mannya.h.967 on paper, but in reality the mental fortitude to acknowledge the luck pull from opening the menu offstage, recognizing the spell and refreshing/using it consistently under stress is a lot more mechanical and adds to the mental weight in return. also zoom doesnt interfere with ledgetrapping as you would never use it at lengths where you are close enough to play the ledge.
@@pyropeshichidan8141 It is a lot easier when you realize that it isn't luck for the most part. Aka pulls the menu at a time where he can recover either way. There was 1 time when he truly just pulled the menu and prayed because he got edgeguarded, but other than that, a lot of it was confirming Zoom and drifting out towards the blast zone to waste Arsene or quickly choosing an option and Up B.
@pyropeshichidan8141 no zoom literally skips ledge. Like say I'm playing Samus and my win condition is ledge trapping my opponent to death. Hero can simply never go to ledge as long as he rolls zoom off stage. That's crazy lol
You get a much higher chance of getting zoom when you're close to the blast zone, thats why hero mains spam menu when they're off stage and aren't close enough to ledge without getting edge guarded
Leo’s Joker dances as he plays. So smooth and bro be throwing hands. I love it
8:49 YEET SMASH??
Crazy reflect, early kill, AND super quick stock. This clip has it all.
My grandma couldve reacted to that fireball 😂
@@edscheimann2001 Sad but true 🤣
Nah the projectile speeds way up after it's reflected, p sure he was still in cooldown
We going back to Fighters Pass Vol. 1 with this!
5:07 the commentator curse LOL
Still can't believe nothing was ever done about the language barrier for Hero. Obviously Leo did fine, but even from a casual perspective not giving any kind of option for symbols or anything is uncharacteristically unintuitive of the team.
Leo learned Japanese menu he said. And akak is not spamming menu like BMP. So its not advantages actually. akak just kept up with Leo with his skill
He did.. but I still agree. There should be something universal
From a game design perspective it's kinda silly that they never did
Yeah, it would be way too much work for Hero spells to have little icons... I mean it would be such a break from the series fans would be mad, it's better to make Hero even more balanced so people won't know which spell he's gonna use, even if you know all his spells 😂🎉
There's really no reason for them to have to consider a language barrier. Realistically why would an American play a Japanese version of smash. Or a Mexican play a japanese version. Smash at its core is a casual game, they don't take competition into consideration. It's up to the player to learn the different languages at that point.
my glorious king mkleo they could never make me hate you
MKLEO y Septiembre son las ÚNICAS razones de las que estoy orgulloso de ser mexicano.
English: MKLEO and September are the ONLY reasons I am proud to be Mexican.
¿Y sparg0?
mmd@s mary jean
SparGOAT
nambe mil veces el skyjay
MkLeo es el Cristiano Ronaldo del Smash es imposible no amarlo y la gran imagen que carga por ser el mejor jugador durante casi 3 y medio seguidos
Una victoria del GOAT es una victoria para nosotros
I didn´t know who support in this match, both of them are my Goats 😭
That game 2 come back and last hit of arsene kill was classic vintage Leo
Huge props to both players, but especially Leo. I would’ve been tilted being unable to read Hero’s menu😂
love how RottenLunch doesn't hide the love for OUR GOAT
They got Leo playin his heart out at locals. Some of the best I've seen him play in ages.
Leo really wants it, i like that. His practice in japan will be good for him
I cant believe he catched him with the up-b at 2:04
freaking incredible
We are so back
Probably just me.. BUT I miss Byleth Mkleo he was sooo sick with that character
I miss too
No me too
Not rly tbh. Literally 2mins of his joker is cooler than anything ive ever seen him do with byleth
I’d take the Meta Knight vs top players at this point
@@Huckle777 hey let's give his byleth some credit. remember that time he went ultra instinct against kurama at LSI while at 160% and won? that's only one example I can think of off the top of my head but there's others like when he was suffocating Sparg0's cloud last stock of game 3(?) at genesis 8
Bro doing side quests now
4:16 that tomahawk though
I'm just a mid level player, but it never ceases to amaze me that people can even get this good at the game
I feel like I wouldn't even be able to take a single stock in ten games with how quick they're moving
Can’t read the menu. Doesn’t get his game 4s. Still gets the W. That hero is amazing though great set
Leo can read the menu he said. not an such advantages actually.
@@おかし-y7h I don’t think it’s possible to match a native reader’s recognition speed as a non-speaker. Even if he’s practiced it, I don’t think the advantage is gone entirely.
@@KevSB07maybe not in neutral but it was pretty easy to tell when guy had zoom lmao. Bro pulled it so many times offstage even I started to be able to read it XD
@@jaden577 dude the zooms were ridiculous
Fantastic commentators. Put these guys casting a major.
Glad to see MKLeo on his grind! I realized that people are catching up to his total Major Ws. He prolly wants to remain the Goat of the Game
Honestly Miya will probably surpass it by the end of the year, but the thing about Leo's total major wins is that most of them are supermajors. No disrespect to Miya or anything but most of his major wins has just been from farming A tiers. The closest person to Leo's 17 supermajors is Acola's 10 I believe
@@gerardoortega323 So i'm guessing 2 or more years until some could actually catch up, just focusing on Super majors
あかきくす の発音がめっちゃ良いw
ルーラも日本人の発音だったww
i fw these commentators heavy lmao
only one ik is rottenlunch, he's a great commentator
Leo it’s cracked
How did Hero broke Jokers shield on 13:26 ?
9:01 I spat out my drink hearing that joke lol
I'm glad Leo is learning how to actually use his counter
That was so close! Awesome match! MKLeo on point and looking slick!
Leo's play was absolutely superb
Good Stuff to Leo he played so well in the hero mu his Joker is just so legendary.
5:05 "biting my tongue" lmao. The commentators curse is always going to get you when you least expect it.
love how hype the commentators were getting
If Leo’s in losers Grand Final, just give the man the trophy. The dude knows his comeback
Spoiler shield 🛡️
You tried my guy
🤣
where is the umeki set?
Random question: What if you are a hero player and you play a tourney in japan?
Even more, what if 2 hero players (one japanese and one english speaker) encounter in bracket?
They will always use the default language. Japanese for Japan. English for majority English speaking countries
What do tournaments do when there are two Hero players who don't speak each other's language? Has this happened before?
What is the local that Leo said was going to do the next day? Shinto Uman? Can someone point me to where i can see the stream
Search Shin Toryumon for the first channel and TAKERA CHANNEL for the second one.
Leo counter on Hero's buffed back air took him for 67% to 120 0_0
So Leo is at Japan, any major coming soon that he is there?
He will be attending umebura
Yes! Im happy to see motivated Leo that really tries to be competitive. Amazing gameplay 🫶🏽
GOAT
勇者の呪文は日本語表記で判断難しいのに勝ち切るMKleoは化け物だ！
spoiler alert
leo gets sent to losers before top 8 then beats the shit out of everyone to take the tournament? close enough, welcome back 2019
You can never count mkleo out until he is completely out of the tournament. I have seen him reset the bracket and win the tournament so many times that it makes me question if he was falling to losers on purpose.
Random Hero thoughts, I think Zoom should be reworked, and here are two thoughts:
1. Zoom should work like Heal, where the more you use it per stock, the less it shows up.
2. Zoom should only be able to dump on the left, right, or center, but the Hero should be able to choose where he lands with that. That way, it can be slightly more down to reads and less complete luck
does this count for rankings?
It's a weekly local. So no it doesn't count.
12:11 How sick would it have been if that up-b would have combo'd into a Crit UpSmash?
Bro dies after getting hit at 28 8:56
Pretty sure that kills at 10% reflected
He deserved it
It makes sense.
That meatball is busted and reflecting it just makes it more powerful.
That was one of the most sick plays I have seen in a while
He could've reflected it a second time later in the video but Leo just takes it to the face instead of reacting.
5:05 commentator's curse
commentator disrespecting beast mode paul like that bro
First of all, BMP has no respect for Akakikusu🤣
@@チョけ太郎how so?
@@チョけ太郎has BMP said something about him before?
bmp is a quitter bro he deserves it, fraudulent ass player
They knew BMP just spam menu and took 2 game just because rng against miya and miya completely adapted and won. And BMP lost many Japanese as well
6:24
Guess who ends up winning the game?
Finally he won a tournament! 👏
Loved this commentary. Props to them both!
ゴリオカーンは聞き取れた
WE'RE SO BACK GUYS
The amount of zooms he found is ridiculous
I know this is late but its a higher likelyhood in the blastzone. With proper Menu manipulation you can get Zoom about 2/3 of the time if you know what your doing
I love these commentators 🤣
The new meta will be learning Hero's menu in every language to counterplay obscure picks.
The GOAT is taking back his throne
We are finally back
2:56 53% counter dayum
The range was more impressive
I Dont think the skill gap between akakikusu and beastmodepaul is huge even if it exists
A victory for the goat is victory for Smash 🫂
Solid proof that Hero doesn’t need a ban
3:08
ゴリオカーンで草
awesome matches!
so much more engaging than steve matches..
Nice to see Leo genuinely grinding Joker. Has he dropped Aigis yet?
He hasn’t used aegis in the last 4 tournaments he attended. But it’s hard to say since these tournaments are much smaller than majors
We’ll see when he plays a Mario or Ice Climbers
@@JonnyJayKhanHe's beaten Japan's 4th best Icies (Tomisa) and one of Japan's best Icies in FNKA with MK so it definitely does look like he's phasing out the Aegis for now. Interested to see what he'd pick against Asimo.
There's an added difficulty spike when playing against different region hero.... The language barrier, u just won't know wuts coming before it hits u !
Absolutely electric
I beg your pardon 🤨 16:00
What would happen if there was a tournament match between 2 pro Hero players. One of which speaks only Japanese and the other English. How could this match work if both menu's can only be in 1 language
Ngl this is something I forget about hero sense this Hero player is Japanese and the Joker player leo is Mexican the hero had such a big advantage with the Magic sense Leo im sure doesn’t understand Japanese.
6:25
“Now he will try”
Seriously though, down a stock and at a hundred percent, most people are out. Not the goat though, he went straight beast mode
Oh, I guess I’m watchin’ weekly Japanese tournaments now.
8:56 return to sender!
En México también está el Hero de Nair 🔥
3:05 That Goriokaan was really Japanese pronunciation!
00:35 put some respect on Nair^s name
no game audio? L
MK putting on for Mexico on Independence month!
Vamos!
What is that up b from Hero bruhh.. ☠️
13:31 could someone explain what the hell just occurred
Psyche Up+Oomph caused bair to one shot shield, but then Aka pushed Leo too far, so he went off the edge and got air dodge while mashing
Woah Leo’s back to using joker?
That’s my GOAT!
Good to see VGBC still absolutely shit with the ad timing
i dont watch much ssbu but wtf is that recovery from that "hero" character ? lol
Grands bo3 is insane
This is very interesting cause akakikusu needs to read the spells but mkleo obviously can't. Cant really do anything but basically mkleo has to be prepared for anything to happen
The goat
Leo never left bruh, he was always in the shadows