Which U.S. city is the closest to a true regional government?
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A. This video was a synthesis from many sources and a lecture I prepared for an Intro to City Planning course. The largest single source used was "Contemporary Urban Planning" by John Levy.
Produced by Dave Amos in sunny Sacramento, California.
Edited by Eric Schneider in cloudy Cleveland, Ohio.
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I didn't steal the transit sign behind me! Sacramento RT recently retired their signs because they redrew all of their routes. They gave away the old signs and I snagged one! Very excited about it!
Nice!
Nice! The sign at my bus stop recently got stolen ):
I collect signs, too! The one thing I will say is that SACRT is unusual to give their signs away, lol.
BTW, I love this channel.
That's nice ! I wanted some old signs from a rebuilt station but I don't think I can...
Lucky I ride that bus system here in Sacramento everyday and I wish I got one of those signs
The best urban regional government in the US is Honolulu because Hawai'i has no city governments. The county performs all the functions of a city, and Honolulu County covers the entire island of Oahu.
Yeah, that's true! I should have mentioned it.
Not super effective, tho. Don't know if thats a problem with that type of government, or if county officials aren't that great
@@CityBeautiful You should come visit too! I'd be happy to show you around. I'm a graduate student in UH Manoa's planning department and I'd love to pick your brain!
Restore royal family of Hawai'i, and I'd agree with you.
As a resident of Waimānalo, I like to refer to the City and County of Honolulu as the "Sitting and Counting of Honolulu."
7:07 That quote is extremely Cities Skylines relevant.
I actually LOLd at that one.
@@thorskjelver8564 I just realized that the Earth is just Cities Skylines in Multiplayer
Lol
9:02 I used to intern at a city council in Los Angeles. Pretty much opposite, it's so shitty there and I can confidently say they don't give a shit about the people. It's really tragic because I honestly love our city, but to witness the conversations that undermine the needs of the civilians as well as really petty things such as board commissioners (who are appointed by the mayor for the sake of his reelection and whatever selfish agenda) call each other bitches and stuff, it was such a disheartening experience. I still have hopes for LA, but I can tell you that change is not being fostered nor much cared for at the city council level.
LA has a long history of shady officials, gentrification and police misconduct. I’m from Santa Monica but, lived in LA for 8 years before moving out. With today’s dynamic of this city being run by Democrats, liberals, and regulation had really made the city worse. I love LA but, I can be happy without it.
Governments as a rule suck, and the bigger/more complex they are the harder it is for the people to recognize and do something about it.
People wonder why I am majoring in Public Administration and why I want to work more local government positions despite being right next to DC, stuff like this is why. So many groups, borders, who controls what, there's jobs to do and someones got to do them! Every city is different as you mentioned so who knows what I'll be doing in the future. Keep up the great content!
P.S what do you think about Virginia's independent cities? What do you think about the power dynamic of the majority of a regions population being under an independent city and not a city within a county? (Look up the Charlottesville and Albemarle counties land annexation history, pretty interesting.
Hello from Minneapolis! The one thing with the Met Council many of us do not like is that they favor a lot of suburban transit rather than keeping transit where the densest neighborhoods are, like Loring Park, Whittier, or Powderhorn... but they do create an extra layer for advocacy in urbanity in government, which is positive for us overall.
This swerved me, I thought it'd be about county mayoral setups and the like, but instead I learned a whole new dimension! I subscribe to many across entertainment and education, but you? You're one of the must-sees. Kudos!
Oh man, thanks for the kind words!
As a resident of Portland, I appreciate how many of your thumbnails feature our city!
I love PDX!
Haha
Yess we have like the prettiest skyline. Except for south waterfront those buildings are ugly haha
Portland lol
Portland? LMAO
Woooh, Dallas stock footage at 1:03 This makes me happy for some reason
It would be interesting to do more videos on the governance of cities. Strong mayors vs council-manager; ward-based vs at-large representation; partisan vs non-partisan elections at city level; participatory budgeting. Powers and financing of city govts etc.
Here in México, metropolitan areas include two or more municipalities, for example, León Metropolitan Area includes León, Silao, Purísima and San Francisco del Rincón. A municipality is similar to a county: one mayor, one local police, one local law.
Problems began with municipal services, public transportation, planning, water suply or police boundaries.
I'm curious how much cooperation there is among boarder towns across Mexico's boarder with the US.
@@MatthewStinar I can't tell since I live in central Mexico
@@MatthewStinar From what I can tell, there is some kind of conection between border cities. People living in one city can work in the other without much of a problem. They can get a permit to cross as many times as they want. The catch is that they cannot go further than a few kilometers away from the border.
I do not live in or close to a border city, but I live in northern Mexico and have heard about this.
There are metro areas like "la Laguna" which is made from at least 3 municipalities across two states. And it is a fucking mess, there are different license plate costs, different land ownership tax, at least 3 different police corporations, public transportation not unified, legality of private transportation services being different across borders and a long etc. There's been a movement to make their own state but they can't do it cause there is too much money to lose for the states they are part of.
it was so nice to see an aerial shot of my hometown of Ljubljana at 02:55.
I live in Eugene/Springfield. Thanks for the shoutout. I love your videos and I’ve realized how much I love city planning, land use, and the sociology and anthropology surrounding those topics. I always look for your videos! Keep it up!
"Regions that work together can avoid a zero-sum approach to recruiting employers" Say it louder for the mayors in the back selling out their city for an Amazon HQ2! Also, regional governance is a very sexy topic!
Amen!
It's even worse than this: it's negative sum. The cities don't bid according to the actual benefit they'll see, but according to the benefit Amazon (or a professional sports team owner) convinces them they'll see.
Great video!
The Port Authority of NY and NJ...they have a notorious reputation because of the infamous Port Authority Bus Terminal
Otherwise they do a good job with what they can with current regs and unions. They also have trouble with getting funding for such projects. I think the PA should take over NYCT, and NJT lines originating in NY under a new regional entity.
Yeah, that place is a mess, but I still have a certain connection to it because I used to bus into the city from my undergraduate university.
Great video like always!
Thanks so much!
I’d have to say Jacksonville Florida where I live, because Jacksonville takes up about 95% of the county minus a few beach towns. So it’s essentially just the county
In Minnesota there are two different regions the Twin Cities Metro Area which includes the seven counties of Anoka, Carver, Dakota, Hennepin, Ramsey, Scott and Washington which comprise about 3 million people. And literally everywhere else. The Twin Cites Metro Area is like it's own little state. If anyone travels outside of the Twin Cities Metro Area, they say they are from the Twin Cities, even though they might be from Eagan, Ramsey, Edina, or Bloomington and not from Minneapolis/St. Paul. If you saw the map used in the video, the population and development is fairly consistent everywhere in the Twin cities and you wouldn't even be able to tell that you were entering a different city if you went from Anoka to Eagan or Edina to St. Paul (Besides the fact that you'd see a whole lot less Mercedes, BMWs, and Cadillacs as you left Edina). I believe the Twin Cities Metro area is larger than Jacksonville seeing as it takes up 7 different Counties according to the MN Government, with 15 Counties if you include the surrounding subservient suburbia.
Jacksonville isn't unique in that regard. Denver is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of Denver County. My home of Nashville is also nearly 100% of Davidson. Nashville is even called Nashville-Davidson on MSA lists. Lots of other cities do something similar to this.
@@verde7595 that may be true but I’d say since the county is so large, it’s essentially the true actual region of northeast Florida
@@verde7595 I'm not sure I'd say lots of cities do that. There are a handful sure. But outside of the ones mentioned here, I can only think of Indy and San Francisco that are the same.
Alaska has four unified city-borough governments (though of course only the Municipality of Anchorage has significant population). The muni does regional planning for communities outside the city proper, but with neighboring boroughs the relationship is limited to the COG & MPO models mentioned.
The Met Council in MN is also able to bind its constituent cities to action following a vote approval such a mandate. Most regional governments cannot place mandates on its members.
In Minnesota there are two different regions the Twin Cities Metro Area which includes the seven counties of Anoka, Carver, Dakota, Hennepin, Ramsey, Scott and Washington which comprise about 3 million people. And literally everywhere else. The Twin Cites Metro Area is like it's own little state. If anyone travels outside of the Twin Cities Metro Area, they say they are from the Twin Cities, even though they might be from Eagan, Ramsey, Edina, or Bloomington and not from Minneapolis/St. Paul. If you saw the map used in the video, the population and development is fairly consistent everywhere in the Twin cities and you wouldn't even be able to tell that you were entering a different city if you went from Anoka to Eagan or Edina to St. Paul (Besides the fact that you'd see a whole lot less Mercedes, BMWs, and Cadillacs as you left Edina).
It would be interesting if you made a video about the Hampton Roads region of Virginia, which is a conglomeration of 7 county-equivalent independent cities :-)
"... and me somehow" Haha, you give yourself too little credit. Your videos are very informative and educational, don't sell yourself short.
As an Oak Parker, I was not expecting that brilliant analogy you made about how Oak Parkers consider themselves to be “from Chicago!” Probably good you skimmed over the part where “real Chicagoans” hate when outsiders claim they’re from the city haha
Man, I love your videos. Its interesting to see the US approach to things working well in Europe.
Can you please, please make a video on how to measure efficiency and effectivness of public transport systems.
I live in New York City, where our governance is done by people who hate us in Albany.
I live in Salt Lake and we have the same deal, with the added bonus that they all meet at the Capitol building here.
Well that's state level...
I live in Rapid City, SD and the capital is Pierre (pronounced pier) which is 3.5 hours away, doesn’t have an interstate connection to I-90, is an hour ahead, and is only 13k people. Let’s just say we hate them, I don’t know how they feel about us.
@@SrGurkman wait a minute let me get this straight the state doesn't like the Salt Lake city Utah but yet operates in it and response the other guy about New York City that hate is learned New York City is an Empire that is fed by the entire state of New York and Upstate people resent them for it because a lot of the tax dollars go to support New York City as opposed to their own areas
@@Septiccatgaming Same for Kentucky. KY capital Frankfort is far away from its largest metro areas of Louisville and Lexington.
I’m going to sign up. Thanks!
Having lived in Virginia, regional cooperation is extremely important for the cities because they are independent from the surrounding counties, meaning they have separate schools, separate utility billing offices, separate local taxes, separate elected officials, etc. I'm most familiar with Charlottesville/Albemarle, which have a couple of regional organizations: The MPO, which oversees road construction between the city and county and the Rivanna Water and Sewer Authority which handles water and sewer treatment as well as the nearby "transfer center" (where the public and garbage contractors take their garbage and it gets transferred to another place that actually accepts garbage).
This is so informative
I like how in the shot panning over Portland when you are covering Metro's responsibilities, you can see Portland State's College of Urban and Public Affairs! Very fitting.
Honestly, I've found this explanation fascinating. I've been curious about how these things worked since we recently had an election. It's really made me pay closer attention to what my own city and region are doing as I get more frustrated with lack of useful and reliable transit here.
Please do a Singapore urban development video !! Please ! Cant wait to here your analysis.
0:16 I thought to myself, that looks exactly like 107th and Lagrange intersection...it was! I love that Forest Preserve I know every inch of it
In my country (an unitary state), there are 3 levels of government - municipal, regional and national. Each with its own elections. There are about 3000 municipalities and 8 self-governing regions. *Regional and municipal responsibilities are delegated from the national government by law* so there's no dispute who should do what. The state is also divided into 79 districts for administrative purposes only. There are several districts in each region.
What country?
Slovakia (Slovenska) ?
@@cybird6010 Slovakia
@@saangtoaikaa9211 Yes
Must have super high taxes there to make this happen
Great video! I appreciated seeing my hometown of Atlanta on the annexing map, but I'd be curious to get your take on the way that the city has approached regional decision-making (or lack thereof)
Unigov would like a word. Indy has cities within cities that are totally independent. Speedway is an enclave within Indianapolis that has independent police & fire. It's like the opposite of a wholly unified regional government.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the quad cities.
Yes, Quad Cuties, Fargo-Moorhead-anywhere that a large population spans a state line would be an interesting case to examine. For that matter, I wonder how cooperation is handled when international borders are involved, such as one case where the library straddles the US-Canadian boarder.
@@MatthewStinar As for Detroit-Windsor, I'd say almost no cooperation at the municipal or county levels.
I love your videos it really helped me understand regional governments like in my hometown The north texas council of governments.
Cool!
How do you feel about the Raleigh-Durham area and the Research Triangle Park? The RTP council seems to have done a great job over the years at economic development but maybe not much else.
Same. I wonder what it would be like if there was a Greater Raleigh Authority.
"a region may cooperate in transit"
Laughs in Philadelphian
surprised he didn't mention it at alllll lmao
By land area, Jacksonville is closer to 15 or 16 Bostons than 10. Also New England has its own MSA type, the NECTA, which sorts along town lines, as opposed to county.
You obviously missed Indianapolis, Indiana. Indy was the first large regional government by annexation. Thru the state legislature, they basically dissolved the county government and made the city council the city-county council.
Can you do a video focussing on the successful approaches at regional goverments worldwide? You mentioned a few at the start
Could you please do the same video for Canada? Census definitions of MSA are similar here. Thanks for the great vids!
I would highly suggest looking into looking into Michigan's "optionally unified county" concept, as well as our use of "charter townships"
Quite possibly the most confusing video I have ever watched, watched it a few times so I could really understand it. Interesting topic!
Shoutout for the SacRT Bus Stop sign! Along those lines, what're your thoughts on the Sacramento-Elk Grove-Roseville area governments with regards to regional planning and the like? I know things like transit are difficult, with Elk Grove opposing Light Rail for some wonderful (/s) reasons, but something like what Portland has would be nice around here :)
When will they ever get around to building a light rail to the airport???
@@stevencooper4422 the Green Line is probably on indefinite hold for expansion of track :( I know the plans for the MLS Stadium and Railyards development include new LRT stations along the Green Line, but expansion north is probably at least a decade out. The Great Recession helped kill it :/
Surreal watching this in Eugene/Springfield.
Could so see a breakdown of these terms in the context of current options.
"Still with me so far?" Oregon's self-awareness, gotta love it
hi i live in Colorado springs and it is booming i am struggling on finding construction projects online i wonder if you could do a video about it and i always wanted to be a city planner when i grow up and you are a great inspiration thanks!
i just got skill share i am wondering if there is a class for city planning i couldn't find one
When are you gonna do a video on the city beautiful movement?
International folks: sorry to leave you out of this video. How does your metro area do regional governance?
Auckland, New Zealand used to be a number of smaller regional councils until 2010, until it merged into one "Supercity", making it the largest council in Oceania! See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auckland_Council#History
In my country (an unitary state), there are 3 levels of government - municipal, regional and national. Each with its own elections. There are about 3000 municipalities and 8 self-governing regions. *Regional and municipal responsibilities are delegated from the national government by law* so there's no dispute who should do what. The state is also divided into 79 districts for administrative purposes only. There are several districts in each region.
My city in the Netherlands is one of two major cities in the region. These two cities, alongside smaller towns and villages, cooperate in a standard Metropolitan Area Council.
in vienna Austria almost everything is organized into the Bundesland(State) of vienna
But there are some suburbs around vienna that are in another Bundesland(state)
Regarding Calgary, something like 90% of the entire metro area's population lives within Calgary city limits...one of the only major metros on the continent to be so unified under one governance board which is how we can more efficiently implement giant projects like our proposed new Green Line. There is little regional cooperation beyond that though, which is one reason we don't have good transit access to our greatest nearby tourism resource: Banff.
0:19 My adopted hometown- Oak Park, IL
Can you do a video on when cities split? Like Kalamazoo and Portage in Michigan
Hey you got one of the newly retired sacRT bus signs!
I got one too. I still don't know what to do with it, but I'm glad I have it.
love that now-old-fashion sacrt bus stop sign
You’d love what Australia does how they have regional councils and city councils (if a major city) instead of super local governance
Should check out the Hampton roads area of Virginia. I think it has a lot of potential at being a mega city if it can tackle the looming issue of raising ocean levels
Take a look at the Indianapolis area, Marion Co, and UniGov. Only about 2 mil in the metro area, so not very large, but I think it is a great example of this
London has a regional government. It does taxes, city planning, controls the local transportation and holds local elections.
And it also tries to control the rest of the country. There's a reason why the rest of the UK doesn't consider London to be a British city anymore.
@@VirgilOvid Actually, London considers itself to be more British than the rest of the country considers themselves to be British xD
People in rural areas and other cities almost never consider themselves British, but Londoners do.
@@Tobberz and that's why we have an electoral college because the rular people in your country consider their vote to be worthless so they feel like they have no voice your taxes are worthless like New York City everything must feed the empire
@@sitdowndogbreath It's actually rural voters who, who vote Conservative, who've elected the past 3 governments xD
It's also mainly rural voters who decided Brexit.
If anything, it's the city folk who haven't been getting a say.
@@Tobberz yeah but you guys don't have a electoral college voting system yours is direct proportion population votes right I don't know about England's politics system I'm sure there are similar to us
Arizona has this called “Maricopa Association of Governments” that’s how we have trains and buses through multiple cities, freeways, etc.
I'm glad you have some love to the Twin Cities Metro Council. Sports stadiums and all the airports -- commercial and general aviation -- are also managed on a Metro-wide basis. "Met Council" covers all 7 counties in the area: Hennepin (Minneapolis), Ramsey (St. Paul), Anoka, Carver, Washington, Scott, and Dakota. However, the urbanising area of the Twin Cities extends beyond that and even into Wisconsin.
I think that this can apply to Denver. Denver is known as Metro Denver since it has many cities that are connected. Also the bus system, RTD, has buses that move between Boulder and Longmont, which are not connected.
Nice SACRT bus sign!
Could you make a video explaining why Dallas and Fortworth are part of the same metro area, while Durham and Raleigh are separate? The New Orleans metro area is now under 1 million residents after Sldell/Northshore was removed, Oddly enough the Hampton roads metro has multiple independent cities that aren't that co-operative. This would be a good video topic to consider.
Very good video. You could do a 10-part series on Virginia, the only state where cities are independent of counties. It has created countless problems with regional cooperation, particularly in Hampton Roads which comprises mid-sized cities Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Portsmouth, Chesapeake, Newport News, Hampton........
This is SUCH an interesting topic! Great video, explained things clearly and put my thoughts to words. In Canada annexation/amalgamation is fairly common. In Manitoba we have planning districts which coordinate land use across municipal boundaries. No elected positions and no power otherwise. What's unique in Canada is First Nations, which present a challenge to those seeking regional cooperation simply because of how different they are from other jurisdictions. And then add the history of racism, systemic discrimination etc. Regretfully relations are not nearly as productive as they could be.
You should make a top 10 best transit systems and a top 10 worst transit systems
As a regional developer from Finland this was super interesting!
Even with your accolades for Portland, I don’t think they cooperate with their neighbors across the river in Vancouver. I’d like to see you address metro areas than span state lines - much like your example from another video about the Chicago Skyway and Indiana Toll Road. I’m also thinking that there are similar problems in KC, Omaha, El Paso (just with NM - not even considering Juarez), Cincinnati, Louisville, Chattanooga, Toledo, Philadelphia, ...you get the picture.
Could you do a video giving the pros and cons of city annexation vs. local city control? It seems like having the one central city coordinating all of this would be a better option, but I want to hear the benefits of the more common decentralized way we normally go about this.
Merge countries and cities into a local regional government. That way we have a nice simple three tier system of government.
Could you do a video on St. Louis?
Connecticut loves their homerule!! We have some regional planning districts, but we don't like counties...Local control for education (except for small towns where there are regional school district like RHAM (Andover, Hebron and Marlborough)), planning, but in the Hartford area, we do have the Metropolitan Water District which supplies water to most of the towns around Hartford. And great tasting water, too...
At 3:21 he mentions that there are people who want government to be more local and are not in favor of adding a level of government between the local level and the state level. To these people I ask “ever heard of counties?”
woo! first time hearing you talk about my city! (minneapolis)
The Netherlands is a bit weird. We have provinces, municipalities and ‘water boards’ (waterschappen in Dutch and not to be confused with torture). The provinces set the policies for issues like landscape and divide the land, like nature, agriculture and industry. Municipalities can then use the land according to these guidelines. Neither provinces or municipalities do anything concerning water regulation, that’s for the water boards. They control the quality of the water, but are mostly there to avoid floods and maintain the waterlevel of lakes, rivers, canals and streams by pumping out the excess water. Most people live below sea-level, so we need this type of ‘neutral’ government.
What was the city that you showed off for economic development @2:42
does anyoneone know? it shouldn't be that hard, I'm thinking
Now you should do a video about the areas of the US with the least regional governance! I live in Connecticut where all county government was abolished decades ago and until recently I had no idea what an unincorporated area even was! Each individual town here deals with everything from its own taxation to public works/services to regulatory powers, it was kinda crazy to me once I found out that most other states do things so much differently (we have state government too of course, but besides that with some unique exceptions like a few unelected regional planning associations here and there it’s all on the town)
Where can I find more about special district types on 4:03?
IIRC the Seattle area had a separate regional government called Metro (officially the Municipality of Metropolitan Seattle) which initially focused on sewage, and then transit. It was eventually merged into King County in 1994, and vestiges of the old name only live on through our bus service (called King County Metro Transit)
Do a video about the KC Metro
Can you a video based on London. I would really appreciate that. Maybe on transport and possible three European cities vs three American and Canadian cities
I would really appreciate that
Yes I know. He needs to do a place within London
I just scanned through what you have written and I think the best cities to do would be LONDON, BARCELONA AND AMSTERDAM VS NEW YORK, CHICAGO AND LOS ANGELES. You could talk about the difference between numbers of skyscrapers
The World of Football I agree
It would be nice to notice the differences
Do a video on what an exurb is!!!!! Please
This US system you just explained is absolutely convoluted. Check out how local government works in Australia, we have local councils which we call local government but are exactly what you call regional government in this video. There is no organisation here below local councils and it seems dumb that it is otherwise in the USA. What you call regional government doesn't have to be a 4th level of governance, it can just become your new local government.
That would be just as bad as adding a fourth level. Remember the part where he talked about cities annexing the area around them? And how people started resisting? The point is to have a small local government that is dedicated to one geographically consistent area so that they aren't making decisions in favor of a dense city center that also affect a suburb of mostly family homes.
There are some management areas where it might make sense to group together the city center and the suburban homes- transportation or utilities, perhaps. But it doesn't make sense for innumerable municipal codes and projects.
@@octorokpie How I described it is how much of the world operates local government.
Your reasoning is, weak?
@@tjmarx Americans sometimes have different priorities than the rest of the world. This is about what WE want from OUR government. Monarchies worked in much of the world for a long time, but that didn't make them better.
@@tjmarx
Much of the world operate local governments very differently for each other.
Too bad my English isn’t good enough for understanding all this 😅 i just found your Channel and i started bunch watching ist)))
JACKSONVILLE!
I got confused and lost about 10 minutes ago.
wow in 2:58 its part of ljubljana, slovenia, called koseze
I don't think appointed regional agencies are necessarily good, as they may be less accountable. I don't think elected regional agencies are necessarily good either, as the central municipality may simply outvote the suburbs.
What I do think is that Balkanization in the US is at extreme levels, and something needs to be done to force cooperation. I don't see why we can't just mandate it, or try to impose actual costs for externalities.
For example, if there's one thing California desperately needs, it's land use reform. But cities undermine one another and reject infringement on local control. Palo Alto doesn't want San Francisco density? Fine. San Francisco doesn't want Palo Alto sprawl? Fine. But _neither one is building enough housing_. Legislate at the state level that they don't get to build offices without housing, and set up a system where neighbors can swap zoning allowances. Nothing more. Force the city governments to find a workable regional balance while preserving local control of neighborhood character.
Yes! Cities need to work together more.
Perhaps one solution would be to abolish county governments (which are normally based on rather arbitrary boundaries) and replace them with metro/rural regional councils.
why not just abolish government?
yeehaw
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This would leave you with a lot of dead space between "regional councils" since non-arbitrary boundaries wouldn't line up neatly. If you just fill the voids with extra space in the "rural" variety of councils, you'll very quickly end up with a rural council completely surrounding a metro council but having no authority overlap. Counties fill the void of space between towns without creating an issue of uncooperative bubbles.
It would be nice for there to be more regionally-integrated tax collection. The way it’s set up now-where people with money move just outside the jurisdiction of a city just to pay lower taxes while depriving urban areas of much-needed financing but still using its roads, etc.-is asinine.
Yeah, it's even worse when a city is on a state border with a state that has no sales tax, and the other side has low property taxes. You get people living in one place and shopping in another just to save on some taxes.
@@CityBeautiful Definitely. I live in Chicago and very familiar with the folks who move to northwest Indiana because of that.
@@beej741 Yeah, I was actually thinking of that area in particular. My wife's family is from NW Indiana, though they don't live there for the tax breaks.
@@CityBeautiful **looks at Vancouver, WA, from across the river in Portland**
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Nebula seems to be a scam. The IOS app doesn’t have any videos posted. And there is not any contact info that I can find.
Sitting in Oak Park, feeling singled out... I actually try to explain where I live, but it's often just easier to say Chicago to people who aren't from the area. I like to think I'm still not as bad as people who say "Chicago" when they mean "Palatine." At least the CTA runs through Oak Park!
I wonder how Vegas would be if the city of Las Vegas annexed Henderson, North Las Vegas, and the unincorporated townships (like paradise for example, which the strip is located in) We all already say we’re from Vegas even though we live in a neighboring city
ElHeeHee North LV could happen but definitely not Henderson. it's too affluent on its own but Paradise, Enterprise, and Spring Valley could easily become part of Vegas.
It seems in a lot of respects that Clark County government acts a regional government. So many people live and work in urbanized unincorporated Clark County with no city government and even the Las Vegas police dept merged with Clark County's to create Metro.
They have a great transportation system in Minneapolis/St Paul.
The last thing I want is regional government. Then the overcrowded urban areas can tell the less populated areas what to do and force them to pay for it. Does this remind anyone of WA state where Seattle controls everything because of their large population? I prefer local control where it is easier for citizens to keep control of their governing body.
If you live in the Seattle area, you know that the Metropolitan King County Council represents the interests of more than two million residents, in cooperation with large and small cities and towns. Not everyone is happy, especially rural landowners on the Eastside. It's always been the case.
“It makes sense for everyone to work together to make sure everyone can breathe”
*New Jersey has left the chat*
As someone from New Jersey there’s actually a lot of land in the south and northwest that’s rural, my town is dense though (about 5,000 per square miles)
If that is what you meant (that it’s very dense)
This sounds a little like the regional and district/councils in NZ. I'm a bit vague on the distribution of responsibilities because Auckland was amalgamated and is now a unitary council ("the super city"), but the clue has to be in the name, right? "regional council"
check out Waren, MI.
Ontario's provincial government has implemented two waves of municipal consolidation, one in the 1970s and again around the turn of the millennium. The first wave created Thunder Bay out of Port Arthur and Fort William, and Cambridge out of Galt, Preston and Hespeler, among many others. In the second wave Toronto became a "mega-city," and Hamilton came to encompass the entirety of what used to be Wentworth County as of the start of 2001. I studied in the Twin Cities in the mid-1970s and was favourably impressed by the Metropolitan Council and its pioneering effort at metropolitan governance. I should have thought it would be imitated more widely by now in the United States.
Has Ontario's provincial consolidation been implemented across Canada?
The Atlanta metro area doesn’t have good regional orgs, due to racism & legacy of racism & segregation
Martin S I’m racist
@@Bobelponge123 m8, you stupid thats what you are... drop mic**
How? It’s ran by Democrats, least racist people out there!
Like the fucking ncaa aint by the world of coke or the worlds largest indoor aquarium and especially one so far away in a landlocked city what a clown
@@billbob6185 Up until recently, the outer suburban areas of Atlanta (Gwinnett and Cobb Countries for example) were run by Republicans, who staunchly opposed any expansion of mass transit into their areas.
I've always felt like the Hampton Roads Region, known locally as the "Seven Cities," comprising of Virginia Beach, Norfolk, Newport News, Chesapeake, Portsmouth, Hampton, and Suffolk would benefit greatly by forming a unitary government. It would help them get more of the transportation funding that Northern VA often gets first dibs on.
The cash cow of VA is Northern VA therefore, they get a higher proportion of monies.