Nick Ross and Sue Cook present. Cases include the murder of David Short in Broadstairs, Kent. The murder of Linda Donaldson in Liverpool and a robbery in Grays, Essex.
The Linda Donaldson 'East Lancashire Ripper' murder has never been solved - the killer has been potentially linked to a number of other murders. In 1996, the police carried out 'Operation Enigma' at the unsolved murders of over 200 sex workers and vulnerable women in the 80s and 90s. Police believed that there were probably at least two serial killers who were at work at the time. Two names were given, the first being David Smith who was convicted of killing a Paddington sex worker in 1999 but is suspected of many more - he was a suspect in Linda's murder and had been questioned by police about it. The second name was Alun Kyte. He was convicted of two murders, but was suspected of killing many more female sex workers, including the crimewatch case of Yvonne Coley in 1984. He was in the news recently as he has also has just been convicted of the serious physical and sexual abuse of a boy over an extended period in the late 1980s. The boy that Kyte abused was a neighbour, and he made threats against the boy's family if he told anyone.
James Gibson was one of the robbers of the Natwest in Preston that was reconstructed by Crimewatch the month before. It's thought he was murdered by the rest of the robbers who wanted to silence him.
Gibson would be one of the few murder victims featured on CW who deserves absolutely zero sympathy. Utter scumbag who put the Ball family through the most horrendous ordeal. Incidentally, Roger Ball passed away a couple of years ago.
Thanks for all the uploads, funny how the elderly couple visiting relatives are always driving something like a Morris minor when everyone else is in an up to date motor!
Thanks so much redcard74 for finishing up Crimewatch in 1988! Looking forward to the uploads of 1989 episodes, especially to see if there was any progress on the cases from the last 3 CWs from 1988, which have been on TH-cam for a few years.
@@redcard7475greetings from Dublin Ireland... I love watching the old CW. I lived in England, Kingston upon Thames from July 92 (Rachel Nickel) to May 94. Thank you for all the uploads.
The case seems to have been more or less solved. If you're interested, there's a brilliant podcast called "The Detective" by the man who broke the Jimmy saville story, mark Williams Thomas. He re-investigated the story and found some fairly definitive answers. I won't spoil it for you, but Lee's surviving father has accepted that version of events.
@@th8257 Just listened to it. Awful. If Robert Smith was spun a line by Lambert, fair enough, but if he’d covered for lambert, even though lambert was a convicted child molester, there would have to be some serious questions raised on what Lambert had over Smith. The three have conspired no doubt and poor Lee has been murdered to keep their secret. Hope Lambert has a great time in hell, the scumbag
@@RogerJJSmith It is surprising how many of these 80s murders are still unsolved, 35 years later. After every programme, Google each reconstruction, and most of them still have no convictions.
They have a strong suspect - the killer has been potentially linked to a number of other murders. In 1996, the police carried out 'Operation Enigma' at the unsolved murders of over 200 sex workers and vulnerable women in the 80s and 90s. Police believed that there were probably at least two serial killers who were at work at the time. Two names were given, the first being David Smith who was convicted of killing a Paddington sex worker in 1999 but is suspected of many more - he was a suspect in Linda's murder and had been questioned by police about it. The second name was Alun Kyte. He was convicted of two murders, but was suspected of killing many more female sex workers, including the crimewatch case of Yvonne Coley in 1984. He was in the news recently as he has also has just been convicted of the serious physical and sexual abuse of a boy over an extended period in the late 1980s. The boy that Kyte abused was a neighbour, and he made threats against the boy's family if he told anyone.
The murder of David Short is a most intriguing and perplexing case. Could it have been a jealous lover who decided to bump him off? He liked the nightlife, and liked to frequent nightclubs, so it's likely he had contact with lots of women.
I live in this area & it doesn't really feature in the local rags or what is left of them these days-they have covered other unsolved murders from the past but I don't recall anything on this one. Wonder if he had tried muscling in on the local drug scene, a decade ago a guy said to be involved in drug dealing was shot dead at his home near Margate after a night out in the area-also unsolved & despite his wacky fathers best efforts Crimewatch refused to do a segment. Maybe the threat from the heavies was to stop selling his crap at their clubs? Although it seems whatever it was he was given a good pasting for that & the DCI indicates that was 1986. I can remember CS gas was quite the thing here in the late 1980's/early 1990's-my brother was at a pub gig where somebody threw it in the room, he even had the videotape of it which I saw.
The James Gibson murder is illustrative of what was happening in the crime world of the 1980s. Gibson was part of the armed robbery gang featured in a previous episode who robbed a branch of NatWest. As regular Crimewatch viewers will know, those violent armed robberies, often involving kidnap, had become more and more common in the 80s. These gangs were often at the epicentre of a lot of other other crime and so prison sentences were hugely increased. That, and improvements in technology, subsequently made arned robbery significantly more difficult/ not worth it and many of the gangs then moved into drugs instead, forming the origin of a lot of drugs crime that still blights places like Liverpool. It's believed that James Gibson may have been shot to silence him. Murder amongst gang members was not uncommon.
Couldn't help myself as a kid every other word I said was bleeding or bloody.... I even use to hold up the argument with my siblings that it was not an actual curse!! What a cheeky monkey.
Although it seems the case has been unofficially solved. The police believe that Lee's body is likely hidden in a grave in a local churchyard where a paedophile, William Lambert, was operating a youth club. They dug up a lot of the churchyard but weren't allowed to disturb the graves. Lee's dad has spoken recently about how he has accepted that Lambert very likely killed Lee.
The London Underground offender's artist impression was poetically described by my brother as "The plasticine man from Jackie Wilson's Reet Petite music video left in the oven." Back Canning Street in Liverpool sounds like the kind of place, like Highgate Wood, that would be worth avoiding after dark.
21.00 Darrity and Mr Lee seem happy out😊. This Discovery must have been the highlight of their life. I reckon they would have told every1 they ever met about this for years to come. Bless them. I wonder what they thought would happen the next time they set out across the Pennines to visit their daughter.
Someone in Clapham, London, had a body drop from a plane land in his garden. It was a refugee who fell out of the plane. He was decapitated on landing.
This is the third time I have heard my neck of the woods (Glasgow) get a mention on Crimewatch. the other two occasions were much later when Kirsty Young was presenting and they had CCTV of two guys wanted for sexually assaulting a young woman in a lane and the second time was the crime news section that Matthew Amroliwala presented and they gave an update on the murder of Jean Campbell, a dog walker who was murdered in the park, it was really big news at the time.
I think he was yet another victim of Sidney Cooke and his gang. It's been speculated that he was killed by a paedophile gang for some years now and as Cooke committed the majority of his crimes in the late 80's, it would make sense that he is responsible.
@@ladylaughter7393Exactly. People always say "Sidney Cooke" because that's the only name they know. But the Sidney Cooke gang was just the tip of the iceberg. There were literally thousands and thousands of offenders.
@@olegenie1007 the case has been more or less unofficially solved. It wasn't anything to do with Sidney Cooke - lee was not the type of victim the Cooke gang preyed on at all (they focussed on vulnerable kids from chaotic families, usually younger than Lee). What seems to have happened is that lee was attending an unofficial youth club at a local church. One of the local grave diggers seems to have run it and was abusing a number of local girls there. The man was called William Lambert. Several women came forward to say they were abused by him as children. His own kids also spoke out, saying what a monster he was and how they believe he did it. If you want some further details, mark Williams Thomas, the man who exposed Jimmy saville, did an investigation into it in his podcast "The Detective". Lee Boxell's father has spoken out recently to say that he believes Lambert did it.
How many security van raids were there in the late 80`s/ early 90`s using a stolen ford sierra ? Didn't the van have a panic button in case of a raid ?
detectives seemed to think nobody would notice that their sideburns were grey and their hair was a fake-looking brown ...... you don't have to be a detective to know they're wearing a wig. BAD WIG
I think he was yet another victim of Sidney Cooke and his gang. It's been speculated that he was killed by a paedophile gang for some years now and as Cooke committed the majority of his crimes in the late 80's, it would make sense that he is responsible.
Ok redcard74 what exactly is your game? Youve now switched up the upload times on me because ive been guessing your upload time correctly for the last couple of days YOU SNEAKY REEFA LMAO😂😂😂😂😂Thx for the video my m8 4 Life👍
@ 28-01.....I wonder why there has been no comments here about the terrified woman held captive for 45 minutes on the tube ride from hell,...frogmarched off by her two black ''guards'' at Gants Hill station and raped in the toilets. Has this despicable crime been censored for some reason?
If any Met police officers look at this episode, maybe they could push for a cold case review of that shocking rape crime? Those two black men may have committed other crimes and be on the national DNA data base. It was a vile and shocking attack.
She'd had a terrible life. The type of drug addicts take always says something. Heroin is the drug of choice for people who've had deeply traumatic childhoods and suffered abuse. The effects of heroin are described as being 'like a warm hug from someone who loves you'. The perfect escape for someone trying to black out past traumas.
Those bank robbers ain't very clever are they, why would you do an armed robbery not wearing a balaclava to hide your face 😂😂 There idiots if they think they have got away with it 😂😂
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Lee Boxell, Missing now for 35 years, 6 months and 22 days
Thanx for this I love these old 80s crime watch reconstructions so chilling.
The driver 'changed his mind ' about his parking spot when he saw a sawnoff shot gun at his face.
The Linda Donaldson 'East Lancashire Ripper' murder has never been solved - the killer has been potentially linked to a number of other murders. In 1996, the police carried out 'Operation Enigma' at the unsolved murders of over 200 sex workers and vulnerable women in the 80s and 90s. Police believed that there were probably at least two serial killers who were at work at the time. Two names were given, the first being David Smith who was convicted of killing a Paddington sex worker in 1999 but is suspected of many more - he was a suspect in Linda's murder and had been questioned by police about it. The second name was Alun Kyte. He was convicted of two murders, but was suspected of killing many more female sex workers, including the crimewatch case of Yvonne Coley in 1984. He was in the news recently as he has also has just been convicted of the serious physical and sexual abuse of a boy over an extended period in the late 1980s. The boy that Kyte abused was a neighbour, and he made threats against the boy's family if he told anyone.
James Gibson was one of the robbers of the Natwest in Preston that was reconstructed by Crimewatch the month before. It's thought he was murdered by the rest of the robbers who wanted to silence him.
Gibson would be one of the few murder victims featured on CW who deserves absolutely zero sympathy. Utter scumbag who put the Ball family through the most horrendous ordeal. Incidentally, Roger Ball passed away a couple of years ago.
Thanks for all the uploads, funny how the elderly couple visiting relatives are always driving something like a Morris minor when everyone else is in an up to date motor!
Thanks so much redcard74 for finishing up Crimewatch in 1988! Looking forward to the uploads of 1989 episodes, especially to see if there was any progress on the cases from the last 3 CWs from 1988, which have been on TH-cam for a few years.
Have just uploaded Jan 1989 for you
You're a legend! Thank you!
@@redcard7475greetings from Dublin Ireland... I love watching the old CW.
I lived in England, Kingston upon Thames from July 92 (Rachel Nickel) to May 94.
Thank you for all the uploads.
@@clioflano421 Thank you for the kind words. I am just happy that these videos are being watched. If nothing else they provide great nostalgia.
@@redcard7475 Wonder why there are so few comments on the tube rape case, were the monsters ever caught?
Just want to thank you for your work in uploading these free of adverts , thank you for your efforts .subbed and liked .
Brilliant uploads, help me through night shift
Mr Birchall-what sort of man was David Short? Mr Birchall-well he was a bit of an asshole to be honest, everybody hated him.
From what I've been reading, he sounds like one very bizarre character.
Poor Lee Boxall :(( can’t imagine how tough that would have been on his parents
The case seems to have been more or less solved. If you're interested, there's a brilliant podcast called "The Detective" by the man who broke the Jimmy saville story, mark Williams Thomas. He re-investigated the story and found some fairly definitive answers. I won't spoil it for you, but Lee's surviving father has accepted that version of events.
@@th8257 Just listened to it. Awful. If Robert Smith was spun a line by Lambert, fair enough, but if he’d covered for lambert, even though lambert was a convicted child molester, there would have to be some serious questions raised on what Lambert had over Smith. The three have conspired no doubt and poor Lee has been murdered to keep their secret. Hope Lambert has a great time in hell, the scumbag
new episode thanks iv seen this one before but the upload is better quality
One of the worst scouse accents I’ve ever heard from the apparent local blonde girl. Absolutely dreadful.
I’m not a scouser and even I cringed at the appalling attempt at a scouse accent
I was expecting the Linda Donaldson case to have been solved, seems not. Tragic.
Alas, the murders of prostitutes often remain unsolved.
@@RogerJJSmith It is surprising how many of these 80s murders are still unsolved, 35 years later. After every programme, Google each reconstruction, and most of them still have no convictions.
It was near me in Leigh it was a massive shock at the time and another prostitute murdered in Pennington flash
They have a strong suspect - the killer has been potentially linked to a number of other murders. In 1996, the police carried out 'Operation Enigma' at the unsolved murders of over 200 sex workers and vulnerable women in the 80s and 90s. Police believed that there were probably at least two serial killers who were at work at the time. Two names were given, the first being David Smith who was convicted of killing a Paddington sex worker in 1999 but is suspected of many more - he was a suspect in Linda's murder and had been questioned by police about it. The second name was Alun Kyte. He was convicted of two murders, but was suspected of killing many more female sex workers, including the crimewatch case of Yvonne Coley in 1984. He was in the news recently as he has also has just been convicted of the serious physical and sexual abuse of a boy over an extended period in the late 1980s. The boy that Kyte abused was a neighbour, and he made threats against the boy's family if he told anyone.
@@RogerJJSmithThey weren’t regarded as a priority at that time.
The murder of David Short is a most intriguing and perplexing case. Could it have been a jealous lover who decided to bump him off? He liked the nightlife, and liked to frequent nightclubs, so it's likely he had contact with lots of women.
I think his partner knows more than she let on. They still talk about that case in broadstairs
I live in this area & it doesn't really feature in the local rags or what is left of them these days-they have covered other unsolved murders from the past but I don't recall anything on this one. Wonder if he had tried muscling in on the local drug scene, a decade ago a guy said to be involved in drug dealing was shot dead at his home near Margate after a night out in the area-also unsolved & despite his wacky fathers best efforts Crimewatch refused to do a segment. Maybe the threat from the heavies was to stop selling his crap at their clubs? Although it seems whatever it was he was given a good pasting for that & the DCI indicates that was 1986.
I can remember CS gas was quite the thing here in the late 1980's/early 1990's-my brother was at a pub gig where somebody threw it in the room, he even had the videotape of it which I saw.
Amazing to see brief footage of Pleasurama! Now that IS talked about by people in the area!
Yeah seems he's meddled with the wrong people. I doubt he got beat up and had his car vandalised for no reason
@@jazzyhomelife2093 she was murdered aswell
RedCard74 you’re an absolute legend thank you so much Xx
The James Gibson murder is illustrative of what was happening in the crime world of the 1980s. Gibson was part of the armed robbery gang featured in a previous episode who robbed a branch of NatWest. As regular Crimewatch viewers will know, those violent armed robberies, often involving kidnap, had become more and more common in the 80s. These gangs were often at the epicentre of a lot of other other crime and so prison sentences were hugely increased. That, and improvements in technology, subsequently made arned robbery significantly more difficult/ not worth it and many of the gangs then moved into drugs instead, forming the origin of a lot of drugs crime that still blights places like Liverpool. It's believed that James Gibson may have been shot to silence him. Murder amongst gang members was not uncommon.
@2:35 - ah the good old days, when “Bleedin’” was the most threatening term!
Couldn't help myself as a kid every other word I said was bleeding or bloody.... I even use to hold up the argument with my siblings that it was not an actual curse!! What a cheeky monkey.
Especially in Bleedin’ Thanet, eh?
Onto 1989 already!! You are a star Redcard, keep them coming!!!
Even though it’s december 1988
Amazing and sad to think that Lee Boxell has not yet been found
Although it seems the case has been unofficially solved. The police believe that Lee's body is likely hidden in a grave in a local churchyard where a paedophile, William Lambert, was operating a youth club. They dug up a lot of the churchyard but weren't allowed to disturb the graves. Lee's dad has spoken recently about how he has accepted that Lambert very likely killed Lee.
The London Underground offender's artist impression was poetically described by my brother as "The plasticine man from Jackie Wilson's Reet Petite music video left in the oven."
Back Canning Street in Liverpool sounds like the kind of place, like Highgate Wood, that would be worth avoiding after dark.
Yep, it does remind you of those clay animations that were all the rage from around 1986-1989 here, they had them on some adverts as well.
“They left behind 25 thousand pounds” well that’s his cut then 😂
You could win that much on The Chase these days.
That Scouse Detective has to be related to Phil Thompson!
Close ya eyes it's deffo Phil Thompson 😂 😂 😂
Definitely
Or his father!! 🤣🤣 really sounds like him definitely!!
21.00 Darrity and Mr Lee seem happy out😊.
This Discovery must have been the highlight of their life.
I reckon they would have told every1 they ever met about this for years to come. Bless them.
I wonder what they thought would happen the next time they set out across the Pennines to visit their daughter.
35:17 Imagine yourself gardening and then a crash helmet appears out of nowhere 😨
Like a scene out of Star Wars.
Someone in Clapham, London, had a body drop from a plane land in his garden. It was a refugee who fell out of the plane. He was decapitated on landing.
Must happen a lot in South London
@@CARLIN4737 would have been even worse if it was a purple helmet coming from behind.
I do hope they catch those motorcycle robbers and reinforce the importance of wearing a helmet.
28:24 He looks like one of the big goomba henchmen from that old live action Super Mario Brothers film!!!!
Bloody hell a flintstones tshirt. That’s terribly sad to hear that.
13:26 A scar on his forrid!
lol
This is the third time I have heard my neck of the woods (Glasgow) get a mention on Crimewatch. the other two occasions were much later when Kirsty Young was presenting and they had CCTV of two guys wanted for sexually assaulting a young woman in a lane and the second time was the crime news section that Matthew Amroliwala presented and they gave an update on the murder of Jean Campbell, a dog walker who was murdered in the park, it was really big news at the time.
@@th8257 I know. live in Glasgow.
They never got anyone for Jean Campbell. Suspect was released. Alsatian did not protect her. Strange case.
Lee has still not been found.😔
strange one how could he jst dissapear like that
I think he was yet another victim of Sidney Cooke and his gang. It's been speculated that he was killed by a paedophile gang for some years now and as Cooke committed the majority of his crimes in the late 80's, it would make sense that he is responsible.
There were hundreds of paedophiles in that area at that time. Like looking for a needle in a haystack
@@ladylaughter7393Exactly. People always say "Sidney Cooke" because that's the only name they know. But the Sidney Cooke gang was just the tip of the iceberg. There were literally thousands and thousands of offenders.
@@olegenie1007 the case has been more or less unofficially solved. It wasn't anything to do with Sidney Cooke - lee was not the type of victim the Cooke gang preyed on at all (they focussed on vulnerable kids from chaotic families, usually younger than Lee). What seems to have happened is that lee was attending an unofficial youth club at a local church. One of the local grave diggers seems to have run it and was abusing a number of local girls there. The man was called William Lambert. Several women came forward to say they were abused by him as children. His own kids also spoke out, saying what a monster he was and how they believe he did it. If you want some further details, mark Williams Thomas, the man who exposed Jimmy saville, did an investigation into it in his podcast "The Detective". Lee Boxell's father has spoken out recently to say that he believes Lambert did it.
Love Helen's soothing voice.
It could melt solid iron.
How many security van raids were there in the late 80`s/ early 90`s using a stolen ford sierra ? Didn't the van have a panic button in case of a raid ?
Lol actresses trying the scouse accent.
Loving the theme music
Bish bosh bang bish bish bang dada da dah!
They don't mention specifically what kind of night clubs he liked to frequent.
28:25 - are you shitting me
detectives seemed to think nobody would notice that their sideburns were grey and their hair was a fake-looking brown ...... you don't have to be a detective to know they're wearing a wig. BAD WIG
Creepy first case. I live in Broadstairs.
The acting is so terrible it's comforting
This made me laugh so much - it’s so truth. The way they step carefully around ‘tricky’ subjects is also entertaining.
The Lee Boxell father runs a face book group x have a look please guys yes very very sad :(
I think he was yet another victim of Sidney Cooke and his gang. It's been speculated that he was killed by a paedophile gang for some years now and as Cooke committed the majority of his crimes in the late 80's, it would make sense that he is responsible.
Jennifer Kelly - I was thinking the same thing. Cooke, what a son of a b***h.
There’s posters up of his picture at my local railway station in blackheath. To do with a missing persons website.
30:45 imagine if the robbers turned up to play their roles :)
Ok redcard74 what exactly is your game? Youve now switched up the upload times on me because ive been guessing your upload time correctly for the last couple of days YOU SNEAKY REEFA LMAO😂😂😂😂😂Thx for the video my m8 4 Life👍
Well keep you guessing!!
@@redcard7475 ok bro😆
Back Canning Street, Liverpool looks rather gentrified these days on Google Earth. Well kept Georgian mews houses with roses round the door.
11:27 ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!! HIM AGAIN!!!!!!! ;*(
😂
Were the two Tube train rapists ever caught?
I think the poor victim tried to commit suicide.
Did any politicians speak out at that time?
@ 28-01.....I wonder why there has been no comments here about the terrified woman held captive for 45 minutes
on the tube ride from hell,...frogmarched off by her two black ''guards'' at Gants Hill station and raped in the toilets.
Has this despicable crime been censored for some reason?
Phil Thompson
Whenever the theme tune comes on I start dancing 🕺 🎶 🤪
You a puff or something?
You are a bit weird then
@@UnderAGlassMetropolis Oi listen, I’m a poof and I don’t dance to the theme!!!
Very odd.
That video fit at 28.28 lol
Shrek with some hair
Were they ever caught,...worst crime ever.
. . . . . so ........ they found some bodies on Dartmoor that had been used for parts.
35:17 Stupid idea chap: any householder at home will immediately alert the police. What's wrong with the bushes right beside you?
Any 2001 episodes of Crimewatch?
fantastic robbery, they dropped 25 thou lol
The studio lighting over Saint Nick is peculiar.
Working the streets seems very dangerous.
FFS - not your fault redcard but again already on TH-cam, seen it recently . Thanks though! 👍
Not as good quality as Redcard's though. I wish i hadn't watched the others too now.
What is La Phelps doing leaning over into a kerb crawler’s car?
Early tonight.
Cctv wasn't completely useless back then
The armed robbery at the end ,one of the efits of the robbers looks a little like pat Tate !
who killed david
Red card I salute you sir thank you for doing all this mate
why? jeez
Good old armed robbery
2.00 broadstairs he lived, she said a high above is bleak house, what's that got to do with this crime and programme
I’m actually reading Bleak House right now so I found it interesting.
Nothing whatsoever. Typical BBC nonsense. She might have well said that there was sand on the beach.
Sue cook
Cook sue
Wonder how much fan mail they got? Can imagine David Hatcher being inundated with offers from women due to his nice manner, accent & smile.
Hi I reckon the lovely Helen Phelps got more fan mail
@@tegwenhafparry7488 sue cooks pulled out
Hot Cookie.
Don't care for the new look Sue !
If any Met police officers look at this episode, maybe they could push for a cold case review of that shocking rape crime?
Those two black men may have committed other crimes and be on the national DNA data base.
It was a vile and shocking attack.
Podgy
magic Grays robbery
Is good robbin banks. Is easy
;-( seen this one
That prossie was rough as
That's rather unkind . Heroin does that to people ..
@@johnniethepom2905 She loved her animals.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 Probably the only creatures that didn't judge her . Loved her for who she was .
She'd had a terrible life. The type of drug addicts take always says something. Heroin is the drug of choice for people who've had deeply traumatic childhoods and suffered abuse. The effects of heroin are described as being 'like a warm hug from someone who loves you'. The perfect escape for someone trying to black out past traumas.
@@th8257Heroin addiction … just ‘living’ from one fix to the next and sinking further into degradation in order to fund it.
Those bank robbers ain't very clever are they, why would you do an armed robbery not wearing a balaclava to hide your face 😂😂
There idiots if they think they have got away with it 😂😂
I think david was a closet batty boy
Be careful or he’ll come round and feel you up (your collar that is).