@@wohdinhel they are quite literally same, they have the same cores. That means they share the same consciousness. That’s like the biggest theme of the game....that androids and machines hate each other but I’m the end they’re not that different....
@@wohdinhel if we talk about the shape, they're nothing alike. But if we're talking about the cores (un)surprisingly enough, Android and Machine isn't all that different. Like Adam and Eve are machine (in a way) but they look just like the Android with humanoid look. Then thorough the game we saw that both Machine and Android are becoming closer and closer to how humanity act too. Now what is the difference between Android and Machine now?
The line 'You damn MONSTER!' is totally of a human tone and not the robotic one... shows how far the machine has gained 'life' beyond their program.....
Well, considering that the Machine Network is revealed to be mostly comprised of the data and records of Humanity, the Machine Lifeforms had essentially become closer to humans than the Androids. While the Androids did have the genetic data of Humanity safe on The Moon, the Machine Lifeforms were evolving with the knowledge of Humanity's experiences.
@@zhebanelm1755 It’s the philosophical question of what makes us human. Do we gain humanity the moment we’re born from pure genetics? Or are our experiences throughout our lives what culminates in us being human? Does it really matter in the end when there’s nothing left?
When the machine finally exploded on my playthrough I actually leveled up from it, and I was almost certain it had to be scripted that way, because it was by far the most emptiness a video game had ever made me feel. It also just very Yoko Taro-esque, like "Good job, you're a brainless killer, here's your empty reward." It reminded me a lot of Drakengard 1 in that sense.
The Symbol of Peace its a good game thats for sure. But nowhere near a master piece. I dont know why people keep saying that. In terms of plot its nothing we havent seen before. It can can be too pretentious at times. Combat was tbe one aspect of the game that is close to a msterpiece. But the story is the same sci fi philosophical cliche with various cringy anime moments.
@@m.fakhriansyahk7988 yeah, I felt like Nier Automata game itself lacked those. And yeah, you could play the other games to learn about them. Nier Automata lacked sub quests and it lacks information from what happened in its past. Which makes sense in a way, since it seems to be that long of a time skip, giving that present world the information it lacked, also considering that past records could have been destroyed all throughout that time skip. That's why I said it's not that friendly.
@@laiden25 first of all, wow you replied this quickly, i like that. and second, yes it's lacking the subquests and more lore, but that is where the players of drakengard and nier benefits. We got goosebumps here and there, and delighted as well when we play nier automata because it's like an easter egg hunt with different characters and plot in a different timeline from a same universe.
- Data shows that humans often engaged in similar activities throughout mankind's history. - Such attempts at revenge were often seen as justified. >_>
No one is the bad guy here. All are victims. YoRHa didn't even know that machines had a conscience. So the machines can love, so what? Androids know that feeling as well - look at 2B and 9S or the case with 11B, O210 and O60.
I played this game in Japanese, after I killed this golden robot, I simply started crying. So much emotion in something quite insignificant in the game... damn
I felt so bad about what I did with them. They just happen to be there, although I ignored the other roaming machines in the game. I just grinded to level 99 in the dessert pit. And that mourning bgm really brings in the eerie. Seems like I killed them out of curiosity...
Well, that’s sad and all, but if i remember right- the first of golden machines attacked you unprovoked and after his death this whole cycle of revenge did start. So when I killed last of them, i thought “it was self defence, don’t expect me to shed tears over you”
I guess that could also put it in perspective of "if one person in the family is wrong, does that make all of them wrong?" If one guy attacked you, why kill the whole family?
Well sure, and at the time you do think that was self-defense. But what's self-defense in your perspective is brutal murder to another. Let's not forget that also at first 9S is mostly apathetic to the machines. And even after him and 2B meet sentient machines capable of human consciousness and experiences, they still sub-divide between the two. Only to find out that MOST of the machines they fought and killed were like this.
Well to be fair he may have attacked us because he considers us a threat, it's not like we won't attack them on sight either he may have been around when his weaker peers were destroyed by us and judged us to be too dangerous to be left to fate and he took matter in his own hands so his life would be peaceful again, also most of them don't target humans except if they're forced to do so just like Pascal showed us they can be peaceful but they will fight if they feel their life is in danger (that's my theory ofc we know they're IA programmed to attack you on sight)
@@zanniia7279 Well, I think it depends, first, an unprovoked attack, so it was technically self defense, later, it was vengeance from the family, so it was (complicated) but still they don't stop, and is a big snow ball effect. Still, I like to think that this whole thing was a preview of the story of the game.
Sonny James, but remember: he was more aware for a reason. To complete the cycle he needed to have a more “human” essence to him... having a more thorough understanding and curiosity for the world.
You know, the ost that plays once you kill the vengeful child could very well be a reference to the ost for the shadowlords castle from the original nier game. They sound fairly similar, and it would be crazy if this is the case because almost the entire plot of the original nier game is just getting revenge (for at least the second part).
;-; I'm playing Nier for the first time. I've avoided walkthroughs and online videos just so I could experience fresh, only checking in if I get really stuck. I tried completing the Wandering Couple quest and came across this dude. I took it down but HOLY SHIT, NO WONDER IT TOOK ME AWHILE! D: I thought I was going crazy! I saw level 25 and it took a shit-ton of damage. Now I'm in the City Ruins and have seen in AGAIN. But this time there are TWO Goliaths with him. Sheeit. e_e
Probably because of the new Nier. I did recently purchase game and I'm on route B I think it's called. I don't know much about the game as I have not looked up anything
Great thing about this game is it does such a good job exploring nothingness and the concept of "Finding meaning in a meaningless world" because essentially thats what earth is in Automata and this concept seems to not only effect the androids but also the machines. Imho this game is a mater piece in how it delivers it's story, even just changing characters gives you a different perspective of the machines and makes you question one important thing "is everything I am seeing right now real?" More games need to take inspiration from Nier Automata
the first one killed an android that killed a close friend and was on a geocidal rampage, which in turn lead to a friend of the killed android to send you to investigate what happened, thus this spiraling side quest. when you go back you can tell the android the machines killed her friend which in turn leads to her going on a genocidal rampage against the machines, thus the cycle of revenge continues.
I think the one that spawns in route A is bugged, and not supposed to spawn...although i think 2B does say something like "pod, scan the enemy" or something. Cant recall. But you are clearly meant to hack them which is why all the golden machines only spawn in route B.
thats what makes this game so tragic, aside from all the deaths and personal struggles the characters face, at the end of it all the androids are just trying to find something to live for through following the made up orders of the extinct humans making them fight a pointless war against robots who are exactly like them - since all they have to do is walk around aimlessly after getting abandoned by their dead creators while trying to find a new purpose in imitating the human emotions, family constructs and many other things by looking at their remains on earth. and even after saying all this, there are just sooooo many more complicated and tragic elements about this in the story it could fit in a doctorate curriculum lmao
I can’t place the track played after the machine’s death and if it is featured somewhere in the Replicant or not, but the nod to the original game with the mention of revenge and a song that’s similar to some of its themes makes me so happy. It’s perfect due to Nier being the proof non-humans are capable of wanting revenge, and although his anger is misplaced, he feels completely justified acting out on those feelings. This concept then gets revisited in Automata with 9s and now this tiny machine-further proving the point that “human emotions” can be obtained by all lifeforms.
This moment made me sit there for a hot minute and think about what I had just done. About whether or not I was actually the 'good guy' or if I really had simply become a monster in my own right.
These golden guys were so fucking bullshit they constantly killed me. But I guess that my fault since I kept fighting them while I was 5 levels lower than them. It took a lot of spamming and hit and running to take them down
During my playthrouh, I killed it with hacking while it was flying midair, then it landed in the water, after a bit teleported to the ground and did that monologue, before exploding and giving no loot.
9S: “Machines wanting to avenge their families? That’s absurd.”
Also 9S: *spends half the game trying to avenge his loved one*
Funny how the very thing he fought against was ultimately what he became.
Not that it mattered, Yorha was quite literally devised to be disposed of
But he’s an *ANDROID,* not a *MACHINE.*
@@wohdinhel they are quite literally same, they have the same cores.
That means they share the same consciousness.
That’s like the biggest theme of the game....that androids and machines hate each other but I’m the end they’re not that different....
@@wohdinhel if we talk about the shape, they're nothing alike. But if we're talking about the cores (un)surprisingly enough, Android and Machine isn't all that different. Like Adam and Eve are machine (in a way) but they look just like the Android with humanoid look.
Then thorough the game we saw that both Machine and Android are becoming closer and closer to how humanity act too. Now what is the difference between Android and Machine now?
@@wohdinhel oh, don't worry, they explain that.
The line 'You damn MONSTER!' is totally of a human tone and not the robotic one... shows how far the machine has gained 'life' beyond their program.....
Well, considering that the Machine Network is revealed to be mostly comprised of the data and records of Humanity, the Machine Lifeforms had essentially become closer to humans than the Androids. While the Androids did have the genetic data of Humanity safe on The Moon, the Machine Lifeforms were evolving with the knowledge of Humanity's experiences.
@@zhebanelm1755 interesting how the least human looking things became the closet thing to it
@@zhebanelm1755 and then all that evolution could be erased in a moment by the network the moment it needed more troops.
Yeah... Congrats on picking up on the entire plot of the game, I guess?
@@zhebanelm1755 It’s the philosophical question of what makes us human. Do we gain humanity the moment we’re born from pure genetics? Or are our experiences throughout our lives what culminates in us being human? Does it really matter in the end when there’s nothing left?
The game: Congratulations, you're a genocidal person. Have a good day.
To quote the man behind this game
"Murderers don't deserve a happy ending"
@@Konpekikaminari Oh.
Interesting.
And yet all it takes is one good long look at history and psychology and ya realize killing is basically hard coded into our DNA
@@Konpekikaminari Tell that to the successful people.
To quote a certain chad from yakuza 0, legends are forged in blood.
can't murder something that isn't alive
"YOU DAMN MONSTERS!" Shivers across my body, awesome
I was like... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. \(TAT)/
And then “Glory to us” did the same to me
That's what she said.
Yoko Taro loves making us suffer
Are we the bad guys?
I actually felt so down after this side quest.
The music sure does build the atmosphere...
Geez 9S's reaction to the whole thing was so fucking depressing....
"And yet...I..."
Cristopher Medina Nobody expects to go around killing an entire community of family/friends 😭😭
Imagine if a mosquito told you that you killed his Friend , so it sucked the blood of a very contagious person to kill you with it
How can something so cute hold so much emotions?
I dont know nigga 🤷🏻
@@timurkral3781 gross
Play the game and you'll find out ☺️
I wasn’t aware cuteness and emotions are mutually exclusive
Your so simple and cute so how are you making me so sad damn it!
Honestly I started recalling all my actions in this game when that machine said all that.
This game crushes my emotions to an extreme level.
Because you're a psychopath.
@@timurkral3781 toxic behavior
@@n0hzash252 deal with it!
It screamed so loud it broke the voice mod...
It became human for a second
When the machine finally exploded on my playthrough I actually leveled up from it, and I was almost certain it had to be scripted that way, because it was by far the most emptiness a video game had ever made me feel. It also just very Yoko Taro-esque, like "Good job, you're a brainless killer, here's your empty reward." It reminded me a lot of Drakengard 1 in that sense.
Another moment that proves this game is a rare masterpiece.
The Symbol of Peace its a good game thats for sure. But nowhere near a master piece. I dont know why people keep saying that. In terms of plot its nothing we havent seen before. It can can be too pretentious at times. Combat was tbe one aspect of the game that is close to a msterpiece. But the story is the same sci fi philosophical cliche with various cringy anime moments.
It also lacks more quests and more lore information. Although you could research them, but it's not that friendly.
@@laiden25 i doubt you'll read this, but more quest? More lore? I suggest playing through drakengard and the original nier for those
@@m.fakhriansyahk7988 yeah, I felt like Nier Automata game itself lacked those. And yeah, you could play the other games to learn about them.
Nier Automata lacked sub quests and it lacks information from what happened in its past. Which makes sense in a way, since it seems to be that long of a time skip, giving that present world the information it lacked, also considering that past records could have been destroyed all throughout that time skip. That's why I said it's not that friendly.
@@laiden25 first of all, wow you replied this quickly, i like that. and second, yes it's lacking the subquests and more lore, but that is where the players of drakengard and nier benefits.
We got goosebumps here and there, and delighted as well when we play nier automata because it's like an easter egg hunt with different characters and plot in a different timeline from a same universe.
End of this quest :you monsters!
My brain:ff7 victory fanfare
Hahaha hell yeah, I was tea bagging them all!
- Data shows that humans often engaged in similar activities throughout mankind's history.
- Such attempts at revenge were often seen as justified.
>_>
XD Nah, just slaughter them XD
Glory to Mankind!
On mine I was just defending myself.
No one is the bad guy here. All are victims. YoRHa didn't even know that machines had a conscience. So the machines can love, so what? Androids know that feeling as well - look at 2B and 9S or the case with 11B, O210 and O60.
Are we the badies?
Music is: Mourning - Nier:Automata OST
Thanks. Looking for it 😭
Thanks
thank you so much! I've been looking for it.
I played this game in Japanese, after I killed this golden robot, I simply started crying. So much emotion in something quite insignificant in the game... damn
Netflix Binger subtitles
@@littleloupy1518 lol
@@AB-jt4rs well you see, there’s this neat little thing called bilingualism
The info that you played the game in Japanese is absolutely not necessary
@@timurkral3781 That depends, since it's obviously different voice actors, the delivery you get of lines may impact you differently.
I'd feel bad about this, but then again I remembered how bullshitly annoying this miniboss fight was.
Rei your character must have been severely under leveled, this bossfight was just long for me.
It was annoying because she kept glitching into cliffs every time she attacked.
You just need to hack them and nopt fighting them.
If you hack them or are already at a high level not so much
I was level 99 so I finished them in a couple of seconds.
I felt so bad about what I did with them. They just happen to be there, although I ignored the other roaming machines in the game. I just grinded to level 99 in the dessert pit. And that mourning bgm really brings in the eerie. Seems like I killed them out of curiosity...
You mean you didn't grind by killing the giant bunny over and over again?
3:16 foreshadowing, BITCHES
Well, that’s sad and all, but if i remember right- the first of golden machines attacked you unprovoked and after his death this whole cycle of revenge did start. So when I killed last of them, i thought “it was self defence, don’t expect me to shed tears over you”
I guess that could also put it in perspective of "if one person in the family is wrong, does that make all of them wrong?" If one guy attacked you, why kill the whole family?
Unless it's bugs, id happily kill all mosquitos on the planet if I had the opportunity
Well sure, and at the time you do think that was self-defense. But what's self-defense in your perspective is brutal murder to another. Let's not forget that also at first 9S is mostly apathetic to the machines. And even after him and 2B meet sentient machines capable of human consciousness and experiences, they still sub-divide between the two. Only to find out that MOST of the machines they fought and killed were like this.
Well to be fair he may have attacked us because he considers us a threat, it's not like we won't attack them on sight either he may have been around when his weaker peers were destroyed by us and judged us to be too dangerous to be left to fate and he took matter in his own hands so his life would be peaceful again, also most of them don't target humans except if they're forced to do so just like Pascal showed us they can be peaceful but they will fight if they feel their life is in danger (that's my theory ofc we know they're IA programmed to attack you on sight)
@@zanniia7279 Well, I think it depends, first, an unprovoked attack, so it was technically self defense, later, it was vengeance from the family, so it was (complicated) but still they don't stop, and is a big snow ball effect.
Still, I like to think that this whole thing was a preview of the story of the game.
Love how aware 9S was
Sonny James, but remember: he was more aware for a reason. To complete the cycle he needed to have a more “human” essence to him... having a more thorough understanding and curiosity for the world.
it was noted that 9s is the most advance unit ever created that has a human like thinking
You know, the ost that plays once you kill the vengeful child could very well be a reference to the ost for the shadowlords castle from the original nier game. They sound fairly similar, and it would be crazy if this is the case because almost the entire plot of the original nier game is just getting revenge (for at least the second part).
It does sound like like Roar a little bit.
The moment the music kicked in...shiversss
This game made me cry.
What a beautiful game, a piece of art
;-; I'm playing Nier for the first time. I've avoided walkthroughs and online videos just so I could experience fresh, only checking in if I get really stuck. I tried completing the Wandering Couple quest and came across this dude. I took it down but HOLY SHIT, NO WONDER IT TOOK ME AWHILE! D: I thought I was going crazy! I saw level 25 and it took a shit-ton of damage. Now I'm in the City Ruins and have seen in AGAIN. But this time there are TWO Goliaths with him. Sheeit. e_e
The ending in that quest is so fucked up... >_>
Oh, that poor, poor little machine. 😢
"I was literally making a Gold LIghtan reference" - Taro
How ironic....that 9S would do the same
this game teaches you that power is just a shortcut to bad decisions
Does anyone happen to know the song that plays at the end?
Clayton Fritts the track is called Mourning
@Chan Chan I love you
It's called mourning eerie song yet so cool.
little things like these can separate a great game from a masterpiece
This game is something else. The music to go along with these scenes make it all the more chilling
The suicidal machine sidequest was also a real heartfelt pain
That machine really reminds me of Kainé...
The TH-cam algorithm wanted to avenge the golden machines as well, apparently.
Probably because of the new Nier. I did recently purchase game and I'm on route B I think it's called. I don't know much about the game as I have not looked up anything
9S: Are we the baddies?
🤣🤣
Question if you happen to die on the last golden machine does she actually kill her self and you find her body somewhere or she doesn't kill her self
Victor Torres the enemy won't be added to your database so you have to kill them
Great thing about this game is it does such a good job exploring nothingness and the concept of "Finding meaning in a meaningless world" because essentially thats what earth is in Automata and this concept seems to not only effect the androids but also the machines.
Imho this game is a mater piece in how it delivers it's story, even just changing characters gives you a different perspective of the machines and makes you question one important thing "is everything I am seeing right now real?"
More games need to take inspiration from Nier Automata
The most painfull scene i've ever played.. (almost cry tho)
Watching this before reading Gulag Archipelago vs watching this after reading Gulag Archipelago
Hey, the first golden guy attacked first!
maybe piece of human gestalt somehow make it into the network instead of turning into shades
"Are we the baddies?"
I felt bad for then, but fuck, they attacked me first.
the first one killed an android that killed a close friend and was on a geocidal rampage, which in turn lead to a friend of the killed android to send you to investigate what happened, thus this spiraling side quest. when you go back you can tell the android the machines killed her friend which in turn leads to her going on a genocidal rampage against the machines, thus the cycle of revenge continues.
I met it three times, in desert, flooded city, and city ruins
How many golden robots in total?
Hanaroo Those are the only ones, this last robot appears after the rest are dead
That was the moment I felt bad I felt bad for every machine but that one hit me hard...
I've noticed that 2B hasn't made a comment in regards to the golden machine, only 9S and Pod 153 did.
I think the one that spawns in route A is bugged, and not supposed to spawn...although i think 2B does say something like "pod, scan the enemy" or something. Cant recall. But you are clearly meant to hack them which is why all the golden machines only spawn in route B.
You smacked him so hard he turned into sasuke
As depressing as this was, it was only foreshadowing something far more depressing.
I almost tier up after this scene.
The scene and then that dark chanting music after send shivers in my whole body...
I just realised... the robots are based off of emil
*Mourning starts playing*
This was randomly recommended to me...
*TH-cam algorithm joke*
This game does so great into making the machines seem like lifeless, emotionless pieces of junk that it hits hard when you see how wrong you are
I haven't even played this game yet, and I'm NEVER DOING THIS
thats what makes this game so tragic, aside from all the deaths and personal struggles the characters face, at the end of it all the androids are just trying to find something to live for through following the made up orders of the extinct humans making them fight a pointless war against robots who are exactly like them - since all they have to do is walk around aimlessly after getting abandoned by their dead creators while trying to find a new purpose in imitating the human emotions, family constructs and many other things by looking at their remains on earth.
and even after saying all this, there are just sooooo many more complicated and tragic elements about this in the story it could fit in a doctorate curriculum lmao
Can someone give me the name of this soundtrack that plays after the bot dies.
Praying to dead bodies? I've never seen that in my playthrough. Not in the Steam version at least
Wow is sadness level elfen lied.
9S be like: im fast as fuck booooiii
I can’t place the track played after the machine’s death and if it is featured somewhere in the Replicant or not, but the nod to the original game with the mention of revenge and a song that’s similar to some of its themes makes me so happy.
It’s perfect due to Nier being the proof non-humans are capable of wanting revenge, and although his anger is misplaced, he feels completely justified acting out on those feelings. This concept then gets revisited in Automata with 9s and now this tiny machine-further proving the point that “human emotions” can be obtained by all lifeforms.
Sorry im late man must have been killing you its called mourning in the Nier Automata ost
Hey it was you or the exp
I chose the exp
This moment made me sit there for a hot minute and think about what I had just done. About whether or not I was actually the 'good guy' or if I really had simply become a monster in my own right.
right. I'm here after my third playthrough and I still feel so bad for killing them
I was so boring to play... yet why do I remember everything...
That poor bot, tried so hard to avenge their family and was hacked to death.... May they rest
They attacked me first >:(
Well if you kill a whole civilization and that civilization had Killing machines at the ready. What did you expect .
Actual chills
Can I just say, I HATE those golden machines with a passion
Makes it worse when I pushed it off accidentally into the water and ended up not getting the loot after either. Sucks man.
Im fking too broke to play this again.
Thank you Xbox.
good 2 know that 9S makes it more easier I made it with 2B xD
A fucking thumbnail left me depressed.
These golden guys were so fucking bullshit they constantly killed me. But I guess that my fault since I kept fighting them while I was 5 levels lower than them. It took a lot of spamming and hit and running to take them down
Thanks. I didn’t know moving forward a little bit cuts off the dialogue.
This one emotes, and it fucked me up badly
I really wish I could talk to them about what it means to be human. They seem so lost and not sure about what they're defending.
Holy shit.
I got this today
Why do the options on the bodies read: "Pray and continue" and "Continue"? Mine said "Retrieve" or "Repair" . Is it a language selection thing or?
Then you forget to pick up the piece for the pod upgrade
What is the name of the song that plays at the end I can't find it ?
Mourning
Oh my gosh, I remember those shooter robots were busted when you used their lb skill. (I played NA Among Gods on the Xbox.)
How can you pray for the bodies? Is it a regional thing?
This oddly reminds me of the junk heap kid, Gideon
What is the ost called after u killed it, i did it randomly without accepting a quest .
I ran into a tank it took no damage.
You spelled it wrong. It's Nier: Automata
During my playthrouh, I killed it with hacking while it was flying midair, then it landed in the water, after a bit teleported to the ground and did that monologue, before exploding and giving no loot.
Does anyone know what the music to this part is?
Mourning
Just looking for the song name
mourning
Wtf i don't fighting 1st in place but you come along tho
I swear I remembering killing this guy about ten times during one of my runs.
Are these like The shinie's of This game?
Special enemies
Me:Damn....anyway time to find another fam to kill UwU
Interesting🤔
Huh, all these people saying how it affected them and here i am just trying to get rich off their cores lmao
hehe same here 😜
Very sad game
One of the best game I've played