Chainsaw Man Read Through Beyond The Anime - Part 1 (Ch 38 to Ch 70)

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  • @darKuchiki
    @darKuchiki หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    Anyone who says that CSM part 2 is trash while gassing up Kaiju 8 is illiterate.

    • @rageikku9398
      @rageikku9398 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      facts

    • @zigazdovc6175
      @zigazdovc6175 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Kaiju 8 is such hot garbage it is insane to me how it got so popular. The manga is good for the first 50 chapters, then it is like the author got changed mid way, because it turns into Fairy Tail 2.0 very fast.

    • @kingcsage6824
      @kingcsage6824 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yep, this is what i call shounen brains

    • @SolidSnake240
      @SolidSnake240 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zigazdovc6175 Damn foreal? I literally just watched ep 1 of Kaiju No. 8 and I liked it. It really gets that bad later?

    • @zigazdovc6175
      @zigazdovc6175 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SolidSnake240 It is good for the first few arcs, but around chapter 60 it gets bad extremely fast.

  • @henrysarson7417
    @henrysarson7417 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    the santa twist is great, the old man puppet was in like 10 panels before the reveal was shown it really isn't as bad as kol makes it out.

    • @sammalla5238
      @sammalla5238 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      he's just tryna downplay cuz it took him a min to figure it out... we've all been there

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah the story literally played the reader by not showing on panel who Santa is. And then baiting you that Santa is the old dude when both are Santa. He just Skipped the part about perfect dolls and the nuanced paneling showing the emotions that create a Feedback loop.
      He literally tought he was her grandpa

  • @kingcsage6824
    @kingcsage6824 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    i am a firm believer that if you liked the farm land arc in vinland saga, there is no way you will dislike chainsaw man part 2. it is basically the same, we got a new main character, we focus on the world and how people view devils, we focus on denji's character and his development based on everything he has gone through in part 1. while i was re-reading chainsaw man with KOL i noticed many thinks like, when the doll devil was saying to denji "what if everyone around you dies. do you really care just about the basic stuff?" and seeing denji's state right now in the manga is really sad, he really changed a lot. i think his char dev is really beautiful and touching.
    i liked Kaiju's manga but it is... pretty much the definition of a shounen story

    • @pirateking8960
      @pirateking8960 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      NO. Wash your mouth out with soap, CSM has NOTHING on Farmland Saga, that was beautifully drawn and dealt with some seriously brutally powerful character development.

    • @kingcsage6824
      @kingcsage6824 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@pirateking8960 relaaax, i just made that comparison because of the drastic shift that both has. i love and like Vinland waaay more then CSM, JJK and any other new gen shounen for the last 15 years

    • @alfanscholz8663
      @alfanscholz8663 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@pirateking8960 Calm down, seinen elitist. I like farmland arc too, but this type of glazing is pure cringe. And there's more to story than character development.

    • @Fokumemove
      @Fokumemove หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Csm Part 2 just has an unlikable cast of side characters. I do not give a shit about most characters. Part 1 had way better side characters

    • @alfanscholz8663
      @alfanscholz8663 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Fokumemove That's wild. Yoshida, Nayuta, Fami, Fumiko are great. What kind of characters would you care about? One of the good things about chainsaw man is even if you dislike the side characters for some reason, at least you know they won't overstay their welcome because this series spends most of its time building mysteries and exploring its main protagonists (in part 2, denji and asa) rather than focusing on side characters. It doesn't exactly demand you to love the side characters.

  • @saints2765
    @saints2765 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    Kids saying midsawman definitely have NOT read the manga and it shows 😴

    • @vrojonathan6670
      @vrojonathan6670 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      How tf are people calling it that, shit was peak, just twitter negativity bots

    • @zigazdovc6175
      @zigazdovc6175 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Probably JJK fanboys.

    • @zigazdovc6175
      @zigazdovc6175 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@vrojonathan6670 Probably JJK fanboys.

    • @Huh-oh3mx
      @Huh-oh3mx หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      People calling it that because of part 2 not part 1, I don't think part 1 ever had people calling it mid .

    • @Xemnas283
      @Xemnas283 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@saints2765 Action junkies that don’t like part 2

  • @TheAthens619
    @TheAthens619 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    12 days later, and im surprised no one has done this
    The reaction starts at 15:00

  • @Master_3530
    @Master_3530 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Part 2 hate is forced

    • @The_Omnipotent_Lurk
      @The_Omnipotent_Lurk หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ngl this one dude in the chat that spamming his bs going on about „it’s only going downhill from part 1 on“ or why he hates Angle Devil so much because he helped killing Reze is so annoying just ban him already.

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@The_Omnipotent_LurkYeah hes a massive hater. Cannot understand good writing and characters deviating from shonen trope mindsets.
      The moment theyre written as human characters he hates and doesnt understand the nuances.

  • @Drauts-
    @Drauts- หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    KOL, If you see this comment, I think it's worth reading.
    The reason many people don't like Part 2 of CSM compared to Part 1 is mainly because the pacing changed and less action-fighting. In Part 1, the pacing is extremely fast. I mean you just got through 2 arcs in 5 hours just as an example. In Part 2, the pacing is slowed down a little bit and the action/fighting scenes aren't as big a focus in Part 2. But I think due to the slower pacing and focusing more on the characters in Part 2, the story is ultimately even better than Part 1. If you prefer slower pacing (though the pacing is still fast anyways), and can handle less action sequences, then I highly recommend you read Part 2 as well. It may surprise you.
    But also worth mentioning it's still not finished, I think right now it's at it's half way point I'd say.

    • @FiDjable
      @FiDjable หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Also because vast majority of people binged past 1 in like 2-3 days and are struggling reading a weekly, unfinished manga.

    • @adamstevens2490
      @adamstevens2490 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@FiDjableexactly. CSM works more as a binge manga since it doesn't have too many unnecessary dialogues which makes the story flow better. Sure, the chapters are short but the bigger picture is always at play and Fujimoto is one of the best in bringing everything together, that and a little unpredictability too

    • @gezenews
      @gezenews หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FiDjable That is delusional. this isn't the first manga people have ever picked up halfway through. Ok maybe not delusional just stupid. The reason they hated it was because Fuji himself was having a hard time writing satisfying chapters on a weekly basis. There were some really short stinkers that are ok overall but fi you waited a week for you would be a bit annoyed. Anyone would. Some were just devoid of any story progress or even meaningful ideas.

    • @globurim
      @globurim หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think he should binge it later rather than now. It's better to read Part 2 in its entirety

    • @hematite9914
      @hematite9914 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The biggest thing is the deviation from the main character at the start, we lost most of the beloved part 1 characters at the end of part 1 and part 2 only gave us 2 new characters who had major developments other than our protag, the story and the world don't feel as grand and as mysterious, I was hooked on part 1 of the manga, while I read part 2 on and off.

  • @dyoralexan9351
    @dyoralexan9351 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Kaiju is not any better than chainsawman tho.

  • @bennogb5069
    @bennogb5069 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    KOL actually dumb, he critizes the Santa plot twist while not only missing all the hints in retrospect but not even realizing that Santa is literally evey Doll. And perfect dolle are the main bodies and the old body is not her grandpa, she literally is him theyre not seperate people.

  • @bruh-bd3ll
    @bruh-bd3ll หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    chainsaw man part 2 neg diffs kaiju am sorry

  • @sammalla5238
    @sammalla5238 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Wtfffff, didn't know bro was doin' this!!!
    I see he wheezed pass some great chapters as well. Can't wait to binge watch 5 hrs of pure CSM content with KoL

  • @alfanscholz8663
    @alfanscholz8663 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Don't read chainsaw man part 2 a chapter per week, it's not the best experience. The reason part 2 is so polarizing is the pacing is too damn slow for weekly reading. But the problem disappears if you read it by volume. IMO it's better than part 1

  • @SwimSwayer
    @SwimSwayer หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Great thumbnail

  • @KonEnjoyer-q1u
    @KonEnjoyer-q1u หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bro blitzed through sheesh

    • @owenbridgers
      @owenbridgers หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Man paid little to no attention at all then complained, wild

  • @Xemnas283
    @Xemnas283 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Man Mappa are in for a run with their money with the Darkness Devil scene and Hell arc in general. I’ll prefer the manga either way but it’ll be interesting to see how they’ll handle it

    • @Kurotama11
      @Kurotama11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How do you think they’ll handle it? Just drop the series and start doing movies from now on?
      Or do you think they’re trying to line stuff up so that the super action heavy sections can be made into movies (pumping the budget for those popular scenes) while keeping the rest as seasonal?

    • @funaccount7665
      @funaccount7665 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i'll be honest the curse devil/ghost devil scene in the anime was not good so i'm keeping my expectations low for darkness.

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@funaccount7665 what? Shoto Goshozono is amsterful director, episode 8 was literally the best. My brothers jaw was on the floor when we were watching it and im theonly manga reader among us.

    • @funaccount7665
      @funaccount7665 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bennogb5069 the direction was good the cg model's and their animation was terrible.

  • @AzN_Elevation
    @AzN_Elevation หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thumbnail goes HARD.

  • @ScadrianGhostblood
    @ScadrianGhostblood หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Read part 2

  • @marcokrautwald1886
    @marcokrautwald1886 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    part 2 is great

  • @The_Omnipotent_Lurk
    @The_Omnipotent_Lurk หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yoo ban this nameless dude, he trashtalks the whole time and vents about something he hates, he’s not contributory whatsoever and such a Self-Insert. it’s really just annoying.

  • @footlive504
    @footlive504 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Chapter 38-70

  • @nicporcelli
    @nicporcelli หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That Aldokurti guy in your Twitch chat is hella annoying.

  • @IDKKK1207
    @IDKKK1207 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    part 2 is peak kol

  • @zayzay_1n_only
    @zayzay_1n_only หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did math, let’s assume 5 seconds of contact with angel removes 2 months, unless you got multiple lives you’re gonna die before an hour you would lose 120 years of life per hour
    (Don’t think about this much)

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think Angel can also control what time is taken off, 2 months per second is just the minimum probably.

  • @dyoralexan9351
    @dyoralexan9351 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Skyking trashhh and troll. Csm is even better than midjutsu yapping kaisen

  • @dillonjoiner1318
    @dillonjoiner1318 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You're not supposed to know what the Russian said. Just like the original Japanese audience wasn't supposed to know what the Russian said. It was the point of the mystery/bizarre reveal.

  • @ułttimate
    @ułttimate หลายเดือนก่อน

    LMAO the Kon moments throughout the stream got me dead 😂😂

  • @SY-pu5ld
    @SY-pu5ld หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh nice, great to see someone doing Chainsaw Man!
    Hope you enjoy.

  • @JStaymoe
    @JStaymoe หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is there a reason KOL dont use Manga PLUS its layout and website formatting is so much better and you can do vertical scroll... its so much cleaner than Viz is

    • @Tae-Kwon-Dovahkiin
      @Tae-Kwon-Dovahkiin หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doent manga plus only have the first 3 and and latest 3 chapters only?

    • @JStaymoe
      @JStaymoe หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tae-Kwon-Dovahkiin no they have them all same as viz you have to play for everything in between

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tae-Kwon-Dovahkiin No, if you log in you can read all of them. Its just you can only read chapters once

  • @crazyfam2261
    @crazyfam2261 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Eyyyyyy kol reading peak

  • @malyrbt7093
    @malyrbt7093 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    santa claus arc is fire and ofc quanxi

  • @randalthekidd7006
    @randalthekidd7006 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hope you do part 2 eventually. i’d love to see you reacting weekly

  • @Vontonone
    @Vontonone หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should react to
    Fire punch too or other fujimotos works

  • @PerkACola
    @PerkACola หลายเดือนก่อน

    ooooo kol is now deep into chainsaw man

  • @JStaymoe
    @JStaymoe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Chainsaw mans art deff has its low points but the sotry is soooo goood

    • @Talkyeuueurudhfj
      @Talkyeuueurudhfj หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The art has only gotten worse in current part 2. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure fujimoto said he's loosing his passion for drawing. Either way it's definitely worse but definitely not horrible. Part 1 art and earlier part 2 is amazing

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Talkyeuueurudhfj No, Fujimtot only said in that interview that hes jealous of co-authored manga like Oshi no ko. Fujimoto literally made an entire one-shot just about how much he loves art

  • @mohammedraihaaan2251
    @mohammedraihaaan2251 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i have decided to not read the fucking chats

  • @marcokrautwald1886
    @marcokrautwald1886 หลายเดือนก่อน

    did kol reread it cause i tjink thats really important for the feeling of the anime

  • @nayan2436
    @nayan2436 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unrelated to video but can you react to Lord of mysteries trailer 2.

  • @Kurodo222
    @Kurodo222 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why do you keep zooming in? You're ruining your own experience. It makes sense for one piece but not for csm

  • @axeljejeje5294
    @axeljejeje5294 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kon is only admiral level

  • @donatoferrante7740
    @donatoferrante7740 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Read the demon slayer Manga

  • @pirateking8960
    @pirateking8960 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also I saw someone compare CSM part 2 to Farmland saga. NO. Wash your mouth out with soap, CSM has NOTHING on Farmland Saga, that was beautifully drawn and dealt with some seriously brutally powerful character development.

  • @NSOAXL
    @NSOAXL หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    For those who think he should read part 2 before Kaiju no.8. Be real y'all. Chainsaw man part 2 is NOT that good. I think ppl just want it to be good simply because you liked part 1 so much. Or you just don't know what "good" is. Kaiju no. 8 is definitely better than csm part 2.

    • @sammalla5238
      @sammalla5238 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      huh? I disagree wholeheartedly!!!
      First of all, it's his choice to continue to part 2 or not and secondly, part 2 has been a slow-burner that's FINALLY paying off it's setup. You're the MAD one if you think any part of Kaiju 8 is better than CSM overall
      again, it's opinions and we're entitled to ours

    • @FiDjable
      @FiDjable หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LMAO, stfu. Part 2 at its worst is better than anything kaiju no 8 has produced.

    • @phothewin6019
      @phothewin6019 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      It's not as good as Part 1, but definitely better than Kaiju No. 8.
      Kaiju No. 8 fell off hard, and the place it fell from wasn't even high to begin with.

    • @iwayuru1716
      @iwayuru1716 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The heck? 😅
      Part 2 is great.

    • @Idontknow05060
      @Idontknow05060 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Part 2 is really good tho, especially the first 30 chapters when it focuses on Asa's dynamic with Yoru and the last 30-40 chapters where it focuses more on Denji's character development

  • @giabaonguyen8285
    @giabaonguyen8285 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So i'm not the only one who don't care/ un amused by the santa bitch twist 😊

    • @jd7337
      @jd7337 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He didn't even stop to try to understand it. He just speed reading

  • @ExrialHD
    @ExrialHD หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    JJK low diffs this. p2 is hot garbage compared to latest jjk arc

    • @kingcsage6824
      @kingcsage6824 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      chill brother, from what you are saying i get that you read manga just for the action and part 2 barely has that

    • @ExrialHD
      @ExrialHD หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kingcsage6824 barely has the char writing and developmnent of p1 wtf? its a down grade in almost every aspect. Half of asa char dev was off screened albeit I still think shes one of the best parts of p2. but p2 cast sucks and story has 0 payoff for 70+ ch

    • @kingcsage6824
      @kingcsage6824 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ExrialHD off screaned?? are you talking about when Yoru was taking over to do hunting jobs? nothing was skipped. the part still hasn't finished, so i agree that part 1 was better, but part 2 is really good in many diff ways. like, every moment with denji and nayuta was great, over all denji is absolutly amaing as a char in part 2, way better then it was in part 1

    • @FiDjable
      @FiDjable หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      JJK is hot garbage post shibuya. CSM low diffs JJK.

    • @elpug99
      @elpug99 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This the man that said that nayuta had 0 characterization btw 😅

  • @pirateking8960
    @pirateking8960 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    CSM part 2 is MID. The writing is poor, the drawing is Mid AF, character development is garbage. It had so much promise to begin with, I will admit I really enjoyed part 1 up to where the anime essentially ends and a little bit further. However once certain events take place, the writing just seems lost, I couldn't even tell you if its in an arc atm. Short chapters and chaotic story is not enjoyable to follow. It's almost like he didn't plan it to go beyond part 1. I have tried to keep reading... then I drop it and force myself to pick it up thinking "Maybe it gets better" and I have been disappointed for 40ish chapters and I refuse to pick it back up. It has been officially dropped. You can see the decline in Manga sales steadily going down and I understand that "It takes all sorts" Its okay for people to not like it, but I hate seeing people who are fans be like "Anyone who says that CSM part 2 is trash is illiterate or stupid, uncultured etc etc" can get off their high horse. The fact of the matter is the quality of the Manga is on the decline and only the die hard fans are keeping it alive atm.
    TLDR Part 2 = MID, Lost and only Die hard fan's are keeping it alive somewhat.

    • @alfanscholz8663
      @alfanscholz8663 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      "the fact of the matter"
      How do you expect to be taken seriously when you don't even know the difference between a fact and an opinion? And what's really funny tho you think manga sales determine the quality of a manga while glazing vinland saga whose manga sale doesn't even reach 10 millions after 20 years run.
      Part 2's writing is poor? In what way? When you said "writing seems lost" could you elaborate? What do you think constitutes good character development? I bet you can't even answer these questions, you're just mindlessly hating because some CSM fans hurt your feelings.
      Like part 1, Part 2 is masterfully structured and nothing about it feels unplanned to me. I don't think it's exaggeration to say that almost EVERY scene and dialogue in it either has thematic significance or foreshadows future events.

    • @sammalla5238
      @sammalla5238 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      all that yapping and he ends up contradicting himself 🤣
      Definitely an undisputed JJK enjoyer no doubt xD

    • @pirateking8960
      @pirateking8960 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@alfanscholz8663 I was trying to give my perspective as someone who enjoyed reading part 1 only to be significantly disappointed by part 2. "Masterfully" structed is a massive stretch, it has a entire chapter dedicated to someone touching Denji's penis. I also didn't want to bring up too many points/spoilers even about what happens at the end of part 1 because no matter how much I have moved on and dislike this manga now I don't want to be a person who comments spoilers. sure it has some foreshadowing occasionally but the events that change the character dynamic from a generic 3 person troupe to what it is now is what has been lost. How about the decline in art? You should be able to find common ground on the decline of art and cover art? and what I initially said with "Fact of the matter" is a correct statement. I'm not comparing total number of sales, I said DECLINE OF SALES only. Which is a FACT. The anime didn't give a boost in numbers to Manga sales, its failed to convert a large % of Anime watchers to manga readers.

    • @alfanscholz8663
      @alfanscholz8663 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@pirateking8960 This is what you said word by word
      "the fact of the matter is the quality of the Manga is on decline"
      I don't see the word "sales" in it. That statement isn't about the declining manga sales. That's a statement of opinion, not a fact. Manga quality is not a falsifiable, quantifiable, objective feature of reality.
      Declining art is normal and common for a weekly manga. You dropped it after 40 chapters, how would you even know? You probably base your take on opinions you see on the internet.

    • @Tae-Kwon-Dovahkiin
      @Tae-Kwon-Dovahkiin หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Still better than anything One Piece has put out in the last 15 years.

  • @vomilksined8047
    @vomilksined8047 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Part 2 is great