Rail and Stile Joinery
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- On this week's show, I demonstrate the use of rail and stile router bits to make raised panels.
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Wow. A clear and complete video. I’m certain that I will refer to it a few times as I embark on my project
Glad to hear that you found it useful Jacques. Good luck on your project and thanks for tuning in to the show.
Kenny you are the man! I watch all your vids in my basement, not allowed up stairs now, only to eat and say hi to the kids,! your a great teacher and I learn so much form you thank you,
You're very welcome Vito. Glad that you could tune in again this week. Good to hear from you sir. Thanks for taking the time to leave me a comment. It's appreciated.
Outstanding video, clear, to the point and nothing left out. Also, you didn't make any assumptions without explaining it to the viewer. Great stuff, well done, wish I had found this sooner.
I'm Glad that you liked the show. Thanks for tuning in and for taking the time to leave the kind words. It's very much appreciated.
@@acutabove_woodworkings I'm currently trying to learn how to make wooden sash windows, so everything you showed here is relevant. VERY happy to get a reply given how old this video is 😀
@@B0M0A0K I started this channel in 2013 and I have done my best ever since to answer all comments on the show. I started the channel to help folks with their woodworking and if I don't answer questions, I'm not helping anyone. I figure that if people take the time out of their busy day to ask questions or leave a kind word, the least I can do is take the time to reply. Thank you again for tuning in. With over 600 episodes of the show on the channel, I hope that there are other topics that you will enjoy as well.
used some of your directions to build a replacement door for a set of cabinets thanks
You're very welcome. I'm glad the video was helpful to you. Thanks for tuning in.
Fantastic video!! Thank you for taking the time to help me learn
I'm glad that you liked it Rick. Feel free to ask any questions you might have along the way. Thanks for tuning in to the show
Very Nice Instructional Video as Always. I love the Router as you can do so much with it, either on a table or by hand and with all those different types of profiles that you can do.
Speak Soon,
Barry (ENG)
Thanks Barry. I don't do very much router joinery on the show but I really need to do more. It's not all about the table saw. There are many other forms of joinery that work really well and look great too. Thanks for tuning in again this week. Always good to hear from you.
Really informative,thanks for pounting me in the right direction. Im going to redo my kitchen this summer and this will help. thanks
You're very welcome Chad. Just remember that this is not the only style of rail and stile bit. There are also bit sets that are a separate bit for each process instead of changing the router set up. Does the same job, just a different process of set up, that's all. Thanks for tuning in and good luck with the kitchen redo.
Muchas gracias por el video, no entiendo mucho inglés…pero entendí perfectamente el tutorial.
I am glad that you were able to understand the tutorial. Thank you for tuning in to the show and for taking the time to leave your kind words. All the best.
Very informative, Thanks for sharing Ken!!
Glad that you enjoyed it Dale. Thanks for tuning in again this week. Always good to hear from you sir.
That does look pretty spectacular.
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I enjoyed that Ken, thanks for the how to detail.
You're very welcome. I'm glad that you enjoyed it. Thanks for taking the time to leave me a comment and as always, thanks for tuning in to the show.
This is a great video on how to use the reversible style of bit. I found that the setup of the shims and bit height to be very frustrating. Perhaps it was the thickness of the shims, but I could never get the fit just right. Personally, I would recommend investing a little more and purchasing the double set of bits.I ended up buying a double set from Lee Valley and found the setup much easier and with better results. Making a test block, like you've shown, is a great way to simplify future setups. One of the biggest things I discovered in using these bits is that small changes in bit height become very visible on the finished panel. To make all of your panels look identical, make all the stile cuts before switching to the rail cuts.
Definitely Jim. There are many bits out there for this process and they all do a fine job. This particular show concentrates on the reversible style bit. While I agree that the shims can be bothersome, I haven't had any problems with this particular set and the shims. I do, however, wish that they would provide you with more than just 2 shims in the set. That would go a long way to helping with the adjustment. Good advice on cutting the stiles first. It's important to get one process completely done before starting the next. The last thing you need is to be fumbling around with setup and trying to match the first set of stiles that you cut because you didn't do them all at once. Thanks for chiming in on this week's show. Always good to hear your opinion and your advice. Great stuff.
Ken, really good educational video. Makes me want to break out my router bits and make myself a door. I thought your approach and explanation was top notch. Looking forward to seeing the project where you use all the doors. Paul / paulsmessyworkshop
Thanks for the kind words Paul. It is sometimes hard to put together an educational video. You never really know if you are giving enough or too much information. Just because it makes sense to me, doesn't mean that it will make sense to others. Glad to hear that you enjoyed the show and thanks for tuning in.
Great Job explaining things, just Subscribed!!
Glad to have you as one of the subscribers Jake. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. I'd be more than happy to help you out if I can. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
Thanks for sharing this. I think this will help me as I make some rail and stile double hung windows though I think the frame I am making uses mortise and tenon or bridle joint. Any additional tips are welcomed and appreciated. Thanks again.
I'm glad that you found this video useful Rich. Good luck with your windows and thanks for tuning in to the show.
Brilliant! Thanks a lot
You're very welcome Tom. Thanks for tuning in to the show. It's very much appreciated.
Great video very intuative☺
Thanks for the kind words Christopher. I'm glad that you enjoyed the show. Thanks for tuning in.
Damn those rails do have a lot of style
LOL. Now that's funny. Thanks for tuning in and for the laugh.
Top job - thanks
Thanks for the kind words Badmin. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask and I would be more than happy to help you out if I can. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
Thank you Ken.
You're very welcome Robert. Glad that you enjoyed the show. Thanks for tuning in.
I had to watch the video three times because I fell asleep twice ..
Well at least you stuck with it and got through the video. Thanks for tuning in.
Another great video Ken, I have seen people use small strips of foam inside the groove to stop any rattling if the panel shrinks, but on a small project, I couldn't see it being beneficial, maybe on a larger panel it would work. What are your thoughts on this?
When I do make the final project, I will be using panel barrels which are small pieces of rubber that fit in the groove that stop the rattling and also allow for any expansion of the wood. I can't see why foam wouldn't work as it would serve the same purpose as the barrels. Whatever method you use, something should be placed in the groove because they rattle like crazy. Even on this small little one. Thanks for tuning in Brian.
U could also joint boards in the same manner using the router bit profiles....jus a quick suggestion.....cheers ..anyway might or not work
Thanks for the suggestion Kit. I'm sure that other viewers will find it useful. Thanks for tuning in to the show. It's appreciated.
What is this bit and where can I get one. Please
I got this one at Lee Valley. You can find it here. www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/power-tool-accessories/router-bits/30130-reversible-ogee-frame-bits
They have other styles as well. I hope this helps. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
Exactly was I was looking for! Thanks a lot for this! I am going to do some MDF raised doors for kitchen cabinets. Any advice that I should follow?
Routing MDF is nasty business. Get a good quality dust mask and use as must dust collection as you can. Those fine particles are murder on the lungs. Also, keep in mind that MDF is extremely heavy. You might be better off with natural wood, just to reduce the weight. I hope this helps. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
Hey, is it a hassle to take the bit apart to switch from stiles to rails? I am thinking about getting this bit. Nice work by the way on this project and, thanks!
Glad that you liked the project John. As for the bit, it is only one nut that holds the cutters in place so switching from one operation to the other is as simple as remove the nut, re-arranging your cutters (they just slide on and off the arbour) and then tightening your nut again. It takes about 45 seconds to switch and as long as the power is off in your router table, you can do it right in the machine without having to remove the bit. I hope this helps. Thanks for tuning in to the show and good luck on your project.
@@acutabove_woodworkings that's great, thank you for that. Really appreciate the reply!
@@johnkarapita437 You're very welcome.
Hi Ken - I love the profile that bit cuts....I'm having difficulty finding a match. Can you tell me what that profile is called so that I can purchase?
Great video.
Thank you.
The bits that are used in this video are labelled as "classic style" rail and stile bits. I don't think they really have a profile name but here is a link to the bits. www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=30129&cat=1,46168,69435,46178
Thank you very much!
You're very welcome. Thanks for tuning in.
Now Kenny I have a non-woodworking question. Over your right shoulder on that shelf with the band saw, at mile marker 22:19, it looks like a dead cat lying there. Now over your head it looks like you have a bad-shaped set of black deer antlers, would you care to address either of these or would it be better to keep me in the dark? Isn't it great to have a fan who pays so much attention to detail. Oh yeah, I enjoyed the video on rail and stile panels also.
God Bless my friend.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Well the dead "cat" is actually a mink. My cousin on the coast used to do taxidermy and this was one of his pieces of work. It belonged to my dad for many years and he was going to get rid of it and I just couldn't stand to see it go so it became the shop mascot. As for the deer antlers, it is just a trick of the camera. It is actually my face shield that I use when working on the table saw. I hang them from the ceiling and the way the camera has caught them in the shot, they look just like what you thought they looked like. Sorry to disappoint, but it is nothing more than a face shield. Thank you for tuning in my friend. Glad to hear that you enjoyed the show.
What brand of router bits and size do you use?
I use this one www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/power-tool-accessories/router-bits/30119-45-lock-miter-bits?item=16J7562
Which is 1-3/4" in diameter. I hope it helps. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
Ken with this bit, do you need to adjust the RPM of the router? And what is the brand of the unit that you are using?
In the video Neil, I explain that I lowered the RPM of the router during the raised panel routing of the project but I left it the same as normal operation for the rail and stile bit. Even though I took the raised panel is several passes, it is still a large bit that removes a lot of material and I lowered the RPM to reduce the strain on the router. My router is a 3 1/4 HP so it can take it but you still don't want to push it.
Here are the links to the bits that I used in this video. Thanks for tuning in.
www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=30129&cat=1,46168,69435,46178
www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=30136&cat=1,46168,69435,46178
what kinda style bit is that? is it bead? where did you get it?
It is considered as a "classic" style bit Ivan. It is reversible and works very well. I purchased it at Lee Valley. Here's the link. www.leevalley.com/en-ca/shop/tools/power-tool-accessories/router-bits/30129-reversible-classic-frame-bits
I hope this helps. Thanks for tuning in to the show.
kennyearrings1 thank you I’m gonna take a look! Beautiful work
@@ivancaetano3094 You're very welcome.
Thanks. Very helpful. Looking forward to seeing your upcoming project. I was thinking that you might have used a coping sled for the ends. Any chance you will use one when you work on that project?
When routing these rail and stile Robert, I did construct a temporary "coping sled". Of course, I'm using that term very loosely when I am referring to the MDF frankenstein that I threw together for this video. I hadn't really thought about a coping sled but now that you mentioned it, it sounds like a great idea for an upcoming show, before the other project starts. Thanks for the idea and hopefully, you will be seeing a coping sled build video coming in the very near future. Thanks for tuning in sir. (and once that build is done....yes, you will see the use of it on the upcoming project)
Really good video.
Stop saying "Um!"
But still a really good video.
I will take that as constructive criticism Sam and say "thanks". I will work on that. Thanks for tuning in Sam. I'm glad that you like the video and that you took the time to leave me a comment. I appreciate it.
Um........
Not sure what this means but I hope you were able to take something positive away from the show. Thanks for tuning in.
@@acutabove_woodworkings Definitely picked up a tip or two!
I, um, have the same...um...problem, when I um, make my own um videos.
Very confusing
Well, I'm very sorry that you didn't find it more helpful Frank. Thanks for tuning in anyway. I hope you were able to take something positive away from the show.
you talk too much
Here's an idea if you think I talk too much.....Move on and don't watch the show!! It's negative comments like yours that make the internet an ugly place so go back to being an armchair woodworker troll and don't watch my program. It's easy. (was that short, and straight to the point enough for you?)
I SEE YOU DO NOT LIKE THE CRITICS, IT'S MORE DYNAMIC SHOWS MORE AND DO NOT SPEAK SO MUCH
When you produce a weekly show and put it on line for all to see, you get many forms of criticism. I have absolutely no problem with criticism but what I do have a problem with and have zero tolerance for is rude comments on my channel and your comment was nothing more than rude. If you have something constructive to say, say it but if you just want to be rude, then keep your comments to yourself. If you don't see that your original comment was rude then maybe you'd better re-evaluate the type of comments that you place on-line on people's channels who are only trying to help.