Tips for Growing Pumpkins & Watermelons (Squash Too): Water, Space, Rooting, Borers, Fungus & More
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- Basic tips for growing pumpkins and watermelons (squash & zucchini too). Spacing and watering, How to get the plants to root along the vine. Managing the vine borer. How find squash bug eggs and treating mildew and fungus. A great overview if you are planning to grow watermelons and pumpkins.
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Gary (I really hope you see this message, my friend. You are amazing!! ), I had to come back today and meantion how well your tips have improved my pumpkin/Zucchini plants. Each year, I'd have a few Zucchini plants get "rotten" at the vine and some would not (I couldn't figure out why the vine was always dying/getting rotten 🤔). I noticed the leaves on our watermelon and Zucchini plants would "wither" (just like you said) even when I would watered each day. Come to find out, "VINE BORES" was the issue 😵. I NEVER knew what a Vine Bore was until I came across your video, my friend.
I pulled out 10 (yes, TEN) Vine Bores out of 3 of the 6 plants. Both of my pumpkin plants had 4 Vine Bores in EACH plant!!! I dug them all out (stab stab stab 😉) and re-covered the damaged vine with a soil/compost mix. My pumpkin and Zucchini plants are strong and I believe they will "bounce back" now that the Vine Bores are not bothering them 😁.
You are a MASTER Gary, and I will never forget what you have taught me in this video. Amazing technique, but just one thing....... I wish you would have meantioned what a Vine Bore actually "is" (grub/worm??). Before watching, I was not sure if a Vine Bore was an actual insect, beatle, worm, etc. I did learned that a Vine Bore looks like a "white grub/worm". Anyways, thanks again my friend and I will subscribe and follow! Take care and Happy Growing!
Thanks so much! Vine borers for sure. Nice on the plant surgery and burins theist stem. It works. Its an orange a black moth that leads the eggs that hatch into those grubs.
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You must feel so wonderful gardening in this new space , plants are lush . And as always an excellent video 🙏.
I watch regularly but leave a comment once in a while . Have a great season ahead Gary
Hey how are you. I do enjoy the new space. Very peaceful. Enjoy your season
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Great info on rooting, so glad you showed us those little tiny protrusions that are actually the plant rooting! I didn't know about borers either. All this might explain why my container grown zucchini and yellow squash didn't do well this year (odd though, as in years past they did very well). I have no choice but to grow in containers, though. Your watermelons look great! Wish I had ground space to grow melons and pumpkins and other squash better. But I still love learning about them. Great news about your book, I'll be checking that out. Thanks for another great video!
Good luck and it is always good to keep learning.
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I have a pumpkin growing in a gallon milk jug container along with a morning glory vine. The plant already has a nice size pumpkin too. And it hasn't even grown a vine at all.
@@HairsWhatsUp I wish you the best of luck with your container pumpkin plant! Sounds like you're off to a really great start!
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I was today years old when I learned....
That squashes and melons will pop roots a junctions if they have ground access.
That Zucchini plants will send out secondary stems.
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Let non-venomous spiders live inside the cone of the leaf. They help keep pests off your pumpkins and they help get rid of mosquitoes
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We've got our pumpkins and squash going and the heat is really helping them get started. Hoping for another huge harvest this season. Cheers from Minnesota!
That was very interesting.
I figured out a different way planting plants, which works for me.
Dig a hole add water, mix up dirt an water making a Mud hole. Why it takes longer for a partial grown plant create a great root system in hard dirt, reason for mud hole, add more dirt an water, plant the plant add more water. Also works at smaller scale for seeds.
I don't have compost.
Very interesting. I never thought of that approach
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Vine borer,I wrapped the aluminum foil and remove the flowers and lower stems powder with seven dust just at the top of the foil and inside the foil
Thank you for your teaching Sir
I like the point you make about letting them sprawl to protect from vine borer. I really struggle with vine borers… but I also grow vertically due to space. I’m going to try and adjust where I can. Thanks for the tip!
Mounding up soil around the base can help too as the plants get larger, this way if you have a vine borer in there, you cover it and the plant roots out.
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Your videos are so informative. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Great video Gary! I'm trying to improve my "punkin growin"
I think lots of room and antifungal treatment is the way to go. Ill be doing it more next year
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Another just in time video! Thanks!
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Last year I got only 5 pumpkins from my garden. Usually I get enough to get me through a whole year. But I found out when the temperature is extreme only male flowers develope. Our temperatures here in Australia last year were in excess of 45C (113F) for over 4 months. Hoping for better this year!
That is true for many plants as it is a way to survive high temps or cold temps. Survival mode.
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Thank you for this video I was having this problem and did not know why!
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As usual, another fantastic video filled with lots of fantastic tips, tfs👩🏼🌾
Thanks so much
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Last year I let my mini pumpkin sprawl out . Epic lol
They cover so much space and look great.
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My pumpkin has tooken over my back yard and water melon to
They need so much space
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Have you ever tried. Wrapping a knee high nylon around plant base. Inch down and 4 or 5 inches above ground. Then wrap tinfoil around that.
The tin foil and nylon will expand with growth
Thanks. Ive tried foil but not nylon
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So beautiful.
I appreciate the tips! Thank you!
Glad to share
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You're training is working for me.
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There is a type of squash bug in my area that smells like green apple Jolly Rancher when squished. It has nothing to do with this video really but no one else seems to care, I thought it was neat.
Oh! This video came a few days too late for me! I had vine borers in two plants and I panicked and ripped them out. The next day I had two more in one plant and another in a fourth plant. I got them out, but really mangled the stem, I had been growing them vertically and put down Sevin dust. So stupid of me accidentally got it on the unopened flowers. I hosed it all off and then I cried. I mean I really cried. I would have been able to keep my head if I had seen this earlier. 😢
Well, now I'll go see if I can hill up the soil around them and try to save them. ( Maybe it didn't come too late after all?). Thank goodness for these videos! And I pre-ordered your book yesterday!
Sorry... Well you are trying to be careful. It happens.
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Thanks for this good information
My dad made me an enclosed garden so the bugs wouldn’t get in it , I put good dirt in the raised beds and I hand pollinate some of my vegetables , I put a Mexican squash in there and wasn’t doing good , it was dying so I took it out and I just planted it next to my grill and i didn’t really take care of it just water . We already cut 4 and have like 10 more growing 😂
Sometimes the works the best
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This is the info I needed! Thank you!!! I’m trying to grow a pumpkin patch and I’ve been hit with it all lol. It’s been 110 everyday so I need to figure out what spray works the best. I ordered the neem oil but I heard it needs to be cooler temps so I haven’t applied it yet. Thanks again!
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A neem oil mix with water and a small amount dish soap,,, spray that keeps that keeps moths away from laying eggs ,,,in the early months
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Wish I had seen this a couple of weeks ago. I lost all my squash and zucchini to the vine borers. I've started a new patch of squash because we still have a long time until our frost.
Great to start new plant. They may miss the borers life cycle
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Thanks for all the information you pack into your videos, Gary! I appreciate it! I have volunteer pumpkins all over the garden this year. I decided to let them have at it. It’s been dry here until this week. I didn’t realize they liked a lot of water. We’ll see who survives…
Good luck and have fun
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I spray my plants 1 time a week with spinosad never get any issues, if i have something nastier i use Pyrethrins which will kill any insects no matter what it is the nuclear organic option. Im very cautious about pests and keep my plants protected.
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I know that squash bugs do not like castings. It is a very good repellent.
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I am afraid to keep gardening.
I had a really hard start.
Just the thought of placing another seed in the ground is a nightmare 😢
Take notes. Use them for next year. Id try to get some fall stuff in the garden. Sometime the experience is different
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hang in there! Where you do live? Some climates are bad for certain plants. It's been a tough year for many experienced gardeners as well, with weather and pests being more troublesome than average.
I am thinking, Epson salt, hydrated and sprayed it should work in a few ways along with bug prevention.
I know that squash bugs do not like castings. It is a very good repellent. 0:45
Thanks again.
I have pie pumpkins, honeynut squash and mini watermelons growing up arch trellises this year. Really hoping i can avoid harsh pest damage. Maybe I need to cover the bottom stems with something
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I wasn't aware of how gigantic pumpkin plants got 😂
I planted it in my raised bed with other things like cucumber and peppers and it is taking over 😩
Its now grown outside over the edge!
Ive had lots of flowers but don't see pumpkins yet.
I hope im not leaving it for no reason
They do get huge.
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What do I spray on the pumpkin leaves to prevent the powdery mildew and how often pls. ?
I use neem oil & i spray at least once a week
"The eye of the master fattens the stock". In the same sense the eye of the gardener defeats the vine borer. Many years ago I observed the phenomenon in which the first stems of pumpkins would split apart longitudinally between two nodes (for reasons still unknown to me) to the extent that the vine was more or less flattened, that is, it was no longer a hollow cylinder. Next, later in the season, I observed that those stems did not get vine borers in them. A little bit of internet sleuthing revealed the explanation for their absence: the clearwing moth which lays the eggs, which later become the vine borers, does so at the base of the young pumpkin plant. Upon hatching, the larvae burrow into the main stem of the plant and from there essentially live out the rest of their larval stage happily eating their way up one or the other of the first main vines that form on the plant, moving in one direction up that chosen vine, toward the growing tip of it or any of its laterals, or toward a maturing fruit located somewhere on the vine. As they move, they are feeding on the pith of the vine, leaving 'to their behind from their behind' the chewed material known as 'frass'. Their fat bodies basically fill up the pith area of the vine, and they essentially block most of the normal movement of water and nutrients along the vine, which causes the vine to wilt and brown out, and ultimately, to succumb. So, when the vine naturally splits apart, and thus no longer has a 'moist, protective, nutrient-filled tunnel' for the vine borer to live in or crawl through, the borer can move no further down the vine. It's a dead end for the borer, but the pumpkin plant is still able to send water and nutrients down past the split area perfectly fine.
So, the secret to defeating vine borers requires no chemicals, no mounding of soil/compost around the vines, no aluminum foil, etc. One just needs to duplicate what sometimes naturally happens, by purposefully slitting the earliest vines of the young pumpkin plant at the opportune time, specifically just as the plant 'starts to run', that is, the vines really start to take off. So, that's usually when the vines are under two feet in length. Use a narrow-bladed sharp instrument like a scalpel or an Exacto blade, and sterilize it in between cuts by dipping the blade in rubbing alcohol (I usually pour a little bit of alcohol from a bottle into the cap thereof, and just have the cap nearby). Choose a given vine, and start as close to its base as you can, and make a slit by inserting the blade into the outer skin of the vine and pushing inward only until you feel the hollow interior (you'll develop a feel for the technique), that is, do not cut all the way through to the other side of the cylinder. Make the slit as long as you can, in a direction more or less parallel to the long axis of the vine, until you come to a node, which is usually a leaf node. Do not cut into the node. The slit usually ends up being at least one inch long, and upwards to 2 inches. If sufficient vine exists, make one or more slits further down the vine, again only putting them in between nodes. Repeat this procedure for all the vines. In a matter of a week or less, the slit will "open up" in an outward curling action, and the vine will become roughly flat in cross section. Seemingly, if a vine borer did exist on the portion of the vine prior to the slit it would not be able to survive the 'crossing' of the now dry and exposed flat area of the vine.
Don't wait too long to do this preventative treatment for vine borers, both because you want to nip the problem in the bud as early as possible, prior to any damage at all, and maybe even before the larvae have hatched, but also because it becomes quite the game of Twister trying to keep track of what's what if you allow the vines to get excessively long and intertwined. Also, since the adult clearwing moth can lay eggs over an extended period in the early part of the growing season, you may find it necessary to repeat this slitting process later in the season, further down the vine. I myself am usually content to have prevented the first big flush of the borer crop, and that usually means that I am going to get the number of mature pumpkins that I am aiming for, but if you really want to maximize your production you can do more later season slitting. But, as I already mentioned, it becomes increasingly more difficult to physically maneuver through the pumpkin patch while doing the stem slitting as the vines lengthen.
That might just be genius insight. Greatly appreciated. And I can recall split 'tubes' fully growing squash, zukes, and pumpkins. I am going to experiment with this. Maybe a video for people to experiment along I see you are not making videos for TH-cam but if you have other social media, I will shout it out. Please send it to therustedgarden@gmail.com. I would be glad to give you credit for the insight. Very cool.
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Awesome tips! Wow. I been watering my pumpkins every other day here in CT. Lots of 90s happened past 2 weeks. I have to inspect better though. Got some mildew and dying leaves. Got some pumpkins growing through
Good luck. Sounds like you are staying up on the heat.
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Thanks l! Great video!
Glad to make it. Been wanting to do one for a while
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Thanks for the info my zucchini has vine borer eggs. Worried I would loose my plant.
Remove the eggs when you see them. Good luck
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Hello. I wonder if you can guide us on pruning watermelon plants. I heard someone said that they cut off the vines at the ends once a watermelon has develope on that particular vine. Is that true?
Thank ypu
So I am letting my plant fully grow. The only pruning I am doing is on the pumpkins when they grow off into the grass. It would also depend on the variety and size of the melons. What I would do is experiment. Let some grow that have melons and prune 1 or 2 that have melons. See what you notice. Good luck
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Actually the pumpkins growing on the trellis produced bigger fruit, that ripened faster for me. I don't get mildew this way. The trick is not to water overhead, which is hard when plants are on the ground. Who cares if I have to plant a few more mother plants. This year I got 40 fruit from 8 vines.
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I planted a squash and cucumber transplants two weeks before my Watermelon and I've got baby Watermelons before cucumber and still no squash. It's a struggle
Hi Gary, we have watermelon plants that are not in trellis however, the vines are super long. How do I prune them correctly without harming the plants?
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Well you check the vines for flowers and melon growth and people do they cut the growing tip. But it varies greatly.
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Great planting instructions, but now my watermelon vine is 20ft long x 5ft wide. So do I need to prune some of it back, remove some of the blossoms, etc to encourage bigger melon development? Thanks kindly
You can start prune the off shoots now. I look for developing melons and cut of the tips of growing vines once they get large. I basically prune to manage the size.
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So the pumpkins can not grow upward then
You can but they do better across the ground.
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Will covering the vine with soil on a spaghetti squash root also
They are slower to root but they will
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I use Neem oil or diatomaceous earth
They work.
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Such a pity to only use Blue Prince for decoration- they have a wonderful flavor as with buttercup roast them together with olive oil and a bit of butter and black pepper - not at all like other North American pumpkins/squash that have no flavor and are only typically used for decorations or pumpkin pie
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My pumpkin plants got vine borers down in the main stem and I had to up root them. :(
Always sad
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I wished I had known about this earlier. Vine borers decimated my kabocha vines (I had them vining on trellis). My 3 baby fruits now have nothing to help them grow. 😥😥
Always sad.
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Thanks for video. Ordered you book. Can’t wait to read it
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Vine borer got into all my zuchinni its been a losing battle fighting those little buggers. I potted my zuchinni this year not next year, potting them seemed to limit their ability to root and vine
They are always an issue.
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Is it okay to spray them with some Neem oil throughout the season? Damn bugs ruin things so easily
I think neem is fine.
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Hi Gary! I finally found some watermelon with seeds and it was delicious. Do you think we have time (7b Philadelphia) to grow some this year? I have the seeds sprouting in paper towels now.
Yeah you have time for melons for sure
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I'm growing some watermelon in containers and on a trellis and they are doing horribly. Unfortunately, I don't have a place to put them in the ground. 🌴👍💯😀🌻🤗🌸🌴👍
They demand a lot of water. It can be tough
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Can laying down Straw around the main root help Protect the Plant ??? watermelons Squash pumpkins ??
Yep. Keeps the soil cool. Keeps water from evaporating. Good stuff
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Hey there Gary I tried that peroxide and water on the powder mildew problem and it's not working ,,try to get back with me on this thank you brother, ,God bless
If you feel it is well soaked with peroxide, I would go to Daconil or Seranade. Baking soda might slow it till you get one those 2. The latter is organic. Sometimes it takes finding the right spray for your area.
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My landlord gave me a plot of ground for my pumpkin patch. He had kept hogs and cattle there for a few years and now it has been empty for a few years. I will till up rows, all I have is a front tine tiller do you think I will have to add any other fertilizer?
I dont think you do. Nice
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My pumkins are sorely behind schedule this season because it took so long to warm up in my area. I've been using fish fertilizer that's helping them catch up, but it's still questionable whether I'll have good carving pumpkins for Halloween this year. I'm still babying them along in hopes I get something.
For the powdery mildew, have you used the milk/water spray on mix with good results? The mildew was too heavy last season by the time I discovered the milk mix, so I couldn't get a good indicator of success, but I plan to hit it as soon as I see ANY sign of mildew this year.
You’re doing a lot of great camera work and showing very close up what you’re doing but wish that Gardner’s I’ve been watching for years and years it’s not just you, but people use this big words and things I don’t know what you’re talking about like vine borer?? I’m learning from you though.
Thanks for watching. Please ask questions. Id be glad to answer. Some top the words, you will become familiar with.
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My zucchini is growing really well but the leaves have holes in them. Should I use neem oil? This is my first time where they are growing well. It’s very bushy too. I see lots of buds ready to bloom. Your response would be appreciated
Try and find the insect. But neem can help or insect dust on some leaves.
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Nice camera quality
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Did you find out what the bug is? I have the same one on my cumber plants. Doesn’t seem to be doing any harm
I never did
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When you're starting the new squash and zucchini plants, are you transplanting them? I did this with squash and they weren't happy for a bit, but now they're doing well.
These were transplants. Ill will be starting more in container too for back up plants in a couple of weeks
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Can I plant pumpkins in August, in zone 7?
You could try 70 day pumpkins.
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My butternut squash rooted into the ground too and it produced bigger butternuts but they rooted much more slowly than pumpkins, do you think hormone rooting powder would help them root faster?
Hmmm I don't know but usually mounding some soil it it works
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Your soil is nice. Mine is clay 🙈 Iowa here.
Find some manure that has sat for about 2 yrs. Place on top if the clay and build a nice area for gardening.
Eating some good watermelon right now
I cant wait
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I wonder if it's too late to move my pumpkin so it can sprawl out. The vine borer has destroyed the main stem but the plant is still trying!
IF you can move it without issue you can. That seems hard.
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You're right, too much. I decided to leave it and accept the fact that I may not get fruit this year. Learning lessons for next time! 😊
Well, I've come to learn that the squash family is not for me to try and grow. Unfortunately, I have to use containers for all my gardening and my squash and zucchini have both developed blossom end rot and just die off. Won't be planting those ever again. And now it looks like I won't be planting melons either. I just don't have the room/space or the soil. My whole yard is paved. 😪 This is my first time trying to garden ANYTHING.
They are tough in containers
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Hi Gary, I am new to gardening and have planted cucumber. I see lit of cucumbers with few cucumbers having whole and white sap coming out of it. Is it some kind of infestation and pls help in treating it? Can I use seven dust?
Hmmm sorry I am not sure what that is.
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Do watermelon get vine borers?
Can you use diatomaceous earth on the stem to deter the vine borer?
You can.
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Wow I didn’t know any of this about watermelon and pumpkins. I have the watermelon, because it’s a small personalized size, growing up a cattle panel. Will they be ok or should I move them? Also I seem to have very little female flowers and massive amounts of male flowers. Results? I have had the watermelon die off from not pollinated. I have tried to pollinate myself but like I said, female flowers are far and few between.
Pollination is hit or miss. You can leave the watermelons. I grow some that way but the sprawling can benefit them if the vine borer shows up
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What kind of mushroom is that at the 12:38 ish mark?
Hmm I don't know.
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Oh heck. Do I need to reroute my pumpkin growing on a trellis?
Not but they dont get that back root system.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Well, I went out and rerouted it to the ground before I saw your answer. I Put some mounds of compost near some of the stems, and watered it...
I noticed the leaves toward the new growth gets wilty and needs more water. So, if it can root along the way, it gets more water to the whole plant. It just makes sense! When I left it was very happy.
what do you recommend for watermelon vine that has started to turn yellow, it has two fruits and one of the melons has started to turn yellow as well. wondering if its a nitrogen deficiency and if i should amend the soil or fertilize soil somehow? everything else in the bed (eggplants peppers melons) are still green and healthy looking. should i cut off the fruit that has started to yellow to let the other melon have a better chance?
Vine issues are usually not nitorgen. Typically root or vine damage like from an insect. You can keep the water even. Give it a water soluble feeding and bury some green root to encourage new roots.
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Anyone have an tips for termites in my soil bag? It’s no infested in my planting container. I just saw it. It’s eating the mulch. How do I protect my produce? The termite company is coming on Monday to treat my house.
Hmmm. That I don't have
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It is very hot in uae what measures should I take
Shade cloth. You can be a lot of different types on line. Something that blocks 50% of the light might be good.
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Can you grow melons in containers?
You can but you want at least 20 gallons in my opinion. And they need space to trail
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never got a pumpkin or melon to grow past golf ball size :(
So far so good on this end.
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Very informative. I’m growing about 30 in mounds on a grassy area. Should I dig up the sod underneath the joints? Or will the roots get through themselves if I use your suggestion of mulch and soil around and underneath them?
The will go down either way.
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Watermelons don’t put down additional roots as it sprawls.
Thank you for posting this reminder. I’m trellising a watermelon right now and was wondering if I needed to trash the trellis.
They dont naturally put out anchor roots like pumpkins. But if you bury the stem, they can root.
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Trellis if fine. I train mine up and back down, bury some stem and back up. Watermelons can root if you bury the stem but dont have anchor roots.
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I Hate vine borers!
"... water to flourish not survive..."
Yep for sure
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Learning about the vine borers and how important the rooting of the vines is has really improved my squash. You are a wonderful teacher Gary!
Glad to help and covering the vine with soil in places really helps.
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