I just came by your channel. What a amazing job you have done putting these fleets together. The water and models pull you right in. I like the organisation of the squadrons. Looks like a great game to play.
I only regret that I have only recently stumbled upon your blog and channel. Absolutely stunning stuff. Subscribed, and eagerly awaiting more content! You're an inspiration to those of us just starting out in the hobby.
Hi, thank you and welcome. Glad you enjoyed the review and I will be posting more looks at the collection in action when we can finally get some games organised. More information is on JJ's Wargames blog where I am doing regular posts about this and other wargaming related items.
Hi Paul, nice to hear from you and thank you. Well all this videoing nonsense was down to your prompting and it didn’t take me long to start doing something ‘Napoleonic’ after taking a break after the Talavera stuff with some 28mm projects and then having the itch for doing some naval stuff reignited by the Warlord 1:700th kits. Glad you enjoyed seeing the results. All the best JJ
Gorgeous collection of ships I’d say! Wow, now if I had a big enough yard, I’d play this outside, on a lovely blueish carpet! ;) light up some cigars, and some good gin! Waiting for ladies preparing High Tea time! Can I be your friend? So that I can defend Spanish honour? ;)
Those are impressive looking fleets, JJ. It was your blog that first inspired me to start painting my own models. As you say, rigging gets quicker as you become familiar with it. Two questions: why did you decide to paint all your ships in a yellow or ochre scheme? It was known, for example, that at Trafalgar three Spanish ships were finished in a black scheme - Santa Anna, San Justo and Rayo - and at least three French in a brownie red - Redoutable, Mont Blanc and the frigate Themis. Do the KMH rules give a realistic result & do they manage a large number of ships well? I currently play a heavily modified version of the old Warhammer Trafalgar rule set but am thinking of switching to KMH. Cheers!
Hi Terry, thank you and glad the blog has fired your enthusiasm for this particular theme. Ok so the collection is designed to function as a generic representation of the fleets of the time and because I intend to use the models for large fleet actions in the main I wanted them to capture the look of a Pocock or Whitcombe painting rather than get too focussed on a particular ship and its look. The named models in the collection help give that theme to the collection but even they are stylised in many respects and are not museum quality replicas of their historical counterparts. This generic approach means also that I can use the majority of the collection to replicate actions across the era without too much pain to the eye because a certain model is not carrying red hull strokes and as you know many vessels changed in look over the period, so I can justify the approach as capturing it at some point in most of the ships careers. In the end a slight compromise in likely inevitable whatever decision you take and that was mine. I not sure if I could put up with the large tricolour on my French ships if we did Glorious 1st June, but I might, just to cross it off the list! With regard to KMH, well I’m always wary of the word ‘realistic’ as the only authorities on that point are all dead, but from what I’ve read, I feel they give me a good simulation in the game they produce and with the added modules from Nick Skinner covering command and control together with a few mods of my own around fleet morale, help in my opinion to improve on the original incarnation. What I really love about all Lardy rule sets is their approach to friction in battle and the card/chit draw method of activation which seamlessly avoids order writing and just as importantly they are fun to play. As far as suitability for large games, KMH was used for the Lardy Trafalgar 2005 refight as I mentioned in the video and have highlighted the 2005 Summer Special on my blog which has an article I’m using explaining how the game was run. Nick Skinner has also written scenarios for Copenhagen, Cape St Vincent, The Nile and Algeciras 1 & 2 with all the added rules to better replicate the specific features of those battles. I hope that helps and wish you well with your own collection and game plans. JJ
Hi Frank, Thank you, much appreciated. You can see more about the collection and the recent playing of the Battle of Cape St Vincent for the 225th anniversary on JJ’s Wargames bog. Cheers JJ
Hi, great looking models. I am going down to see your models in action at Warlord Games in Nottingham on Sunday for the battle of trafalger refight. One question: All the small boats on the deck would normaly have been towed in a battle (to cut down on splinter wounds) why have you not shown this when you have taken so much care over the painting and rigging of the ships? It seems a bit strange that you didnt show this historicaly correct tactic. That aside great boats and its inspired me to spend another couple of hundred pounds with Warlord Games. Regards Stuart.
Hi Stuart , thank you, and I look forward to saying hello next weekend. You are quite right about the boats and aesthetically they look nice towed when the ship is at quarters, however the collection is designed to be visually attractive whilst functional and that is an artistic decision by me. So I could have very easily done as you say and added on deck crew for good measure and dispensed with the acetate shrouds in favour of etched brass extending all the way up each mast but decided that the more I added in that way the less robust the models are to handling by lots of players in multiple games for which the collection is intended and when used to fight a large battle like Trafalgar the loss to the eye is minimal for the effect of seeing a lot of fully rigged ships on the table. As I say my artistic decision which I am happy with even just with a few of the models on the table surrounded with gun flash and smoke markers, plus I really like the look of a boat stack. Cheers JJ
I got sails of glory but would recommend oak n iron box for the best sea map n terrain out of all 3 games. I was never a fan of all the ships not at full sails do they give u a choice?
These models are some of the best wargame models available at this type of scale with plenty of scope to modify and scratch build with as you will find examples of on the blog JJ’s Wargames where I have shown how to build sloops, large and small third rates etc. As far as the sails, these are card which have been designed by the great military artist Peter Dennis in a range of colours and can be arrayed as you want or left off and simply replaced with model putty to create a furled look at anchor. As I say plenty of scope for mods. Cheers JJ
Hi no not really, I’ve built collections for friends, but other than that have rather a lot of stuff of my own to get done, with work on the Battle of Camperdown fleets about to conclude. As an aide for others to have a go at building these models I have put together several rigging tutorials here on TH-cam and PDFs on the blog and the blog provides plenty of examples for painting the ships, and I will answer queries there if necessary. JJ
I just came by your channel. What a amazing job you have done putting these fleets together. The water and models pull you right in. I like the organisation of the squadrons. Looks like a great game to play.
Awesome stuff......
Inspiring! By the way, audio is much better near the end of this video.
Superb collection! Some great paint jobs JJ, wish I had the patience I'm still struggling through the Master and Commander box set.
Wow that is stunning JJ, what a collection!!!
That is the most impressive fleet of ships I have ever seen. Amazing.
Hi Andrew, thank you and I hope you feel inspired to keep pressing on. Cheers JJ
Amazing !
Love the blog and channel. Thank you
Hi Chris, thanks for your comment and much appreciated. JJ
I only regret that I have only recently stumbled upon your blog and channel. Absolutely stunning stuff. Subscribed, and eagerly awaiting more content! You're an inspiration to those of us just starting out in the hobby.
Hi, thank you and welcome. Glad you enjoyed the review and I will be posting more looks at the collection in action when we can finally get some games organised. More information is on JJ's Wargames blog where I am doing regular posts about this and other wargaming related items.
Hi pbeccas, thank you, I’m glad you like them and its great to be able to share how the collection looks now it’s done. Many thanks JJ
Such a spectacular and superb collection of ships, congrats!! (And best of luck to the French 😊)... 👍👍👍😍😍😍
Hi Paul, nice to hear from you and thank you. Well all this videoing nonsense was down to your prompting and it didn’t take me long to start doing something ‘Napoleonic’ after taking a break after the Talavera stuff with some 28mm projects and then having the itch for doing some naval stuff reignited by the Warlord 1:700th kits. Glad you enjoyed seeing the results. All the best JJ
Gorgeous collection of ships I’d say! Wow, now if I had a big enough yard, I’d play this outside, on a lovely blueish carpet! ;) light up some cigars, and some good gin! Waiting for ladies preparing High Tea time! Can I be your friend? So that I can defend Spanish honour? ;)
Hi Steven, and thank you. These models are a lot of fun to do and we’ve had some great games with them as well. Cheers JJ
@@JJsWargames No, no... I thank you, for having the courage to build such an impressive fleet!
Hi Phil, thank you and I’m confident Villeneuve’s boys can give a good account of themselves👍
Those are impressive looking fleets, JJ. It was your blog that first inspired me to start painting my own models. As you say, rigging gets quicker as you become familiar with it.
Two questions: why did you decide to paint all your ships in a yellow or ochre scheme? It was known, for example, that at Trafalgar three Spanish ships were finished in a black scheme - Santa Anna, San Justo and Rayo - and at least three French in a brownie red - Redoutable, Mont Blanc and the frigate Themis.
Do the KMH rules give a realistic result & do they manage a large number of ships well? I currently play a heavily modified version of the old Warhammer Trafalgar rule set but am thinking of switching to KMH. Cheers!
Hi Terry, thank you and glad the blog has fired your enthusiasm for this particular theme. Ok so the collection is designed to function as a generic representation of the fleets of the time and because I intend to use the models for large fleet actions in the main I wanted them to capture the look of a Pocock or Whitcombe painting rather than get too focussed on a particular ship and its look. The named models in the collection help give that theme to the collection but even they are stylised in many respects and are not museum quality replicas of their historical counterparts. This generic approach means also that I can use the majority of the collection to replicate actions across the era without too much pain to the eye because a certain model is not carrying red hull strokes and as you know many vessels changed in look over the period, so I can justify the approach as capturing it at some point in most of the ships careers. In the end a slight compromise in likely inevitable whatever decision you take and that was mine. I not sure if I could put up with the large tricolour on my French ships if we did Glorious 1st June, but I might, just to cross it off the list! With regard to KMH, well I’m always wary of the word ‘realistic’ as the only authorities on that point are all dead, but from what I’ve read, I feel they give me a good simulation in the game they produce and with the added modules from Nick Skinner covering command and control together with a few mods of my own around fleet morale, help in my opinion to improve on the original incarnation. What I really love about all Lardy rule sets is their approach to friction in battle and the card/chit draw method of activation which seamlessly avoids order writing and just as importantly they are fun to play. As far as suitability for large games, KMH was used for the Lardy Trafalgar 2005 refight as I mentioned in the video and have highlighted the 2005 Summer Special on my blog which has an article I’m using explaining how the game was run. Nick Skinner has also written scenarios for Copenhagen, Cape St Vincent, The Nile and Algeciras 1 & 2 with all the added rules to better replicate the specific features of those battles. I hope that helps and wish you well with your own collection and game plans. JJ
WOW!
Hi Frank, Thank you, much appreciated. You can see more about the collection and the recent playing of the Battle of Cape St Vincent for the 225th anniversary on JJ’s Wargames bog. Cheers JJ
Hi, great looking models.
I am going down to see your models in action at Warlord Games in Nottingham on Sunday for the battle of trafalger refight. One question:
All the small boats on the deck would normaly have been towed in a battle (to cut down on splinter wounds) why have you not shown this when you have taken so much care over the painting and rigging of the ships? It seems a bit strange that you didnt show this historicaly correct tactic. That aside great boats and its inspired me to spend another couple of hundred pounds with Warlord Games.
Regards
Stuart.
Hi Stuart , thank you, and I look forward to saying hello next weekend. You are quite right about the boats and aesthetically they look nice towed when the ship is at quarters, however the collection is designed to be visually attractive whilst functional and that is an artistic decision by me. So I could have very easily done as you say and added on deck crew for good measure and dispensed with the acetate shrouds in favour of etched brass extending all the way up each mast but decided that the more I added in that way the less robust the models are to handling by lots of players in multiple games for which the collection is intended and when used to fight a large battle like Trafalgar the loss to the eye is minimal for the effect of seeing a lot of fully rigged ships on the table. As I say my artistic decision which I am happy with even just with a few of the models on the table surrounded with gun flash and smoke markers, plus I really like the look of a boat stack. Cheers JJ
I got sails of glory but would recommend oak n iron box for the best sea map n terrain out of all 3 games. I was never a fan of all the ships not at full sails do they give u a choice?
These models are some of the best wargame models available at this type of scale with plenty of scope to modify and scratch build with as you will find examples of on the blog JJ’s Wargames where I have shown how to build sloops, large and small third rates etc. As far as the sails, these are card which have been designed by the great military artist Peter Dennis in a range of colours and can be arrayed as you want or left off and simply replaced with model putty to create a furled look at anchor. As I say plenty of scope for mods. Cheers JJ
@@JJsWargames they r the best but they r sprews so that doesn't count..lol I don't do sprews
Do you build and sell these models?
Hi no not really, I’ve built collections for friends, but other than that have rather a lot of stuff of my own to get done, with work on the Battle of Camperdown fleets about to conclude. As an aide for others to have a go at building these models I have put together several rigging tutorials here on TH-cam and PDFs on the blog and the blog provides plenty of examples for painting the ships, and I will answer queries there if necessary. JJ