Shelby American Documentary describing by Peter miles💔 Ken miles Death
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- To win Le Mans with an all-American car, Ford was willing to spend whatever was necessary for the best designers, equipment, drivers and crew. Because this new racer was designed to comply with Appendix J of the FIA's regulations, it was known as the J-Car. This would be the final, most advanced version of the GT40.
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I actually came to this page looking for information about the details of the accident. As far as I know there are no pictures of the car after the accident, however, since Miles was ejected from the car two possibilities come to mind: 1) His actual belts failed in some way that allowed his body to get out from under them as a result of tremendous g-forces while the car was flipping. Or 2) the car's fundamental structure failed, either allowing Miles (perhaps still in his seat) to separate from the rest of the vehicle. I recently saw an example of this type of GT40 failure (although there was no detail regarding whether this was an actual GT40 or one of a number of replicas that are around. In any case, the picture I saw showed an accident on an LA street of a "GT40" that came apart to the point where the driver's seat was attached to its portion of the floor pan, but was nominally separated from the rest of the vehicle. I wonder whether this is what happened.
Does anyone know the answer to this question?
Ken Miles Ford J Car swerved off the track because it had not enough downward aerodynamic force and broke into pieces. Ken was ejected after the car, with no plastic fuel bladders, shot fuel out immersing the entire car and Ken, exploding from the compression or the friction, or the sparks at 180 mph. Ken died from the heat, burns, explosion, and finally from being ejected from the J Car at such a high speed and from impact with the ground. May God be with Ken Miles forever in eternal life,! Amen If Shelby did not go to Ken Miles in his last moments, he was nothing but another fat Ford executive. If He did, he was a true friend.
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Ken Miles.
Top Gun, Le Mans
After waching the movie im still pissed about that cheater guy that stole win from ken miles
It’s a film & very much a fictional one . Really dig into the magazines of the time. There were 5 other drivers in Shelby’s team. The 1967 F1 world champion. The finish shown in the film was just crap.
@@beagle7622 There are numerous pictures of the '66 finish that were shot from different angles. I have never seen one that shows #1 car (Miles) ahead of the #2 car (McLaren). Someone on another YT page said that the "Finish line" in the pictures (where the flag marshal was standing) was NOT the actual "Finish Line" The actual "Finish Line" was a timing line that was some distance BEFORE the line where the flag marshal was standing. Miles may or may not have been first across that timing line. However, regardless of who crossed the timing line first the fact (as I understand it) is that the distance between the #1 and #2 cars AT THE START was GREATER than the distance between the two cars AT THE FINISH. Therefore, the #2 car (McLaren and Amon) won.
Now there are a couple of ways to look at this, and not having a copy of the 1966 Le Mans rules available I have to guess: Since the Le Mans race is about the car that has DRIVEN THE LONGEST DISTANCE" the first question arises: When does the race end?
There are a couple of possibilities:
1) Since the nominal "end" of the event was at 4:00pm the "end" could possibly have been at precisely 4:00pm, with the winner being the car that was in the lead at 4:00pm? Doubtful, since the cars didn't have transponders (as they do today) so there was no way to determine the distance between the two leading cars at that precise moment.
2) Or the "end" could have been the moment AFTER 4:00pm when the leading car crossed the "finish line" (either the "timing" line as described above or the "flag marshal line as is shown in virtually every picture), after which the ACTUAL winner would be determined after evaluating the distance between the first and second place cars.
I believe that the #2) was the way it happened, and thus the Le Mans officials made the correct decision.
The only question is whether Miles actually crossed this mythical "timing line" first. Other than a comment made on another YT page I have never heard a word about this "timing line". However, as far as the "flag marshal" line is concerned there is ample photographic proof that the #2 car crossed it first.
My final words on the subject: 1) As a racer myself I'm personally disappointed that Miles didn't get the win since he had to slow dramatically to allow the other two cars to catch him. However, people need to understand that Miles wasn't driving HIS OWN CAR, he was EMPLOYED BY FORD, and as such was "required" to follow their orders. It's my understanding that Ford exec Leo Beebe was actually shocked to find out that a photo finish was going to take the victory away from Miles. However, the cars did not have radios at the time so the pits couldn't convey that information to Miles even if they had wanted to allow him to pull away so that he won by more than the distance between the #1 and #2 cars at the start.
I'd love to know more about this "timing" line if anyone has anything concrete to add.
@@SRFDriver I’ve read about this a lot and carol shelby was actually the one who came up with the idea of the photo finish and miles was all in for it. Miles slowed down and they crossed the line together but they game mclaren the win since he started further back and this drove the longer distance but miles was a lap ahead of them all when they crossed which leads to an error from le mans cancelling the lap he did ahead of them and giving mclaren the win. Miles wasn’t mad at all and was very happy he got the chance to drive. Shelby company gave mclaren different brakes which helped him and made miles car a bit worse since he used different brakes. From what happened in the race we all know that Ken won that race fair and square and thoroughly deserves his triple crown for endurance racing without a shadow of a doubt.
@@scavanger4618 I've seen the final race results which show McLaren and Miles as having finished on the same lap (360 IIRC). I can't imagine that race officials wouldn't have corrected the error if in fact it was an error. So my belief is that it was simply a difference of opinion between the Ford pits and Le Mans scoring.
With that said, and having raced sports cars for thirty plus years (1972 through 2004) I'm familiar with the manual way that timing and scoring was done until they started putting transponders in the cars. It was an incredibly tedious process, with one scoring person assigned to a particular car, and sometimes multiple cars. I can't imagine the amount of effort and concentration required to keep track of every car on every lap for 24 hours, especially considering that a lap of Le Mans takes more than three minutes (at least today). My hat's off to them.
@@SRFDriver Read Denis Jenkinson’s race report . The video of the actual Finish is not hard to find . As they crossed the line Mclarens car was at least a car length ahead & it’s not because he sped , Miles backed off . The whole finish shown in the film with Miles racing Bandini was crap , the track was safely 2 cars wide , and as they crossed the line , the order was Car 2 , Car 1 & about 30 metres behind car 5.
I would love to learn some things I’ve never known from this documentary but it needs to be seriously re-edited. Background music and sounds shroud the narrative too much seemingly most of the time. And while I can say “buongiorno”, “arrivederci”, and “ciao bella”, with all the trappings of a guy from the American South, I can’t instantly translate Enzo nor his race engineer. Hearing what they have to say might be the most important part of the story. I mean, the Duece DID in fact beat Ferrari ultimately, and with such grand style that I kinda figured such a display would have put Enzo in the looney bin. He was one helluva personality, sticking it to Ford at the table at the last minute before Ford would have owned the better part of Ferrari, and his domineering ways are a story unto themselves. Put this ALL together, and the whole thing is just like they say, truth is stranger than fiction. Imagine if this was not historical fact, the story would be assumed to be a pipe dream at most and heavily embellished at least. Unreal. One. Two. Three. And the guy who was about a lap AHEAD was robbed of his disciplined, hard earned, victory. The hours that Ford put that FE block through, they say over a million hours on the torture chamber engine room stand. The innovative brake swap set up. The car. The agonizing beauty of that car. Good god. Thank you England, Italy, and America, for making history so sweet. And vive le France too!
I just can't hear the narrations and interviews because the background music is louder than the voice volume..
I was going to enter a comment saying exactly that. How can they think such music helps? The audio is muddy in the first place.
Why does this end in the middle of a sentence
Where is the full documentary
please tell!
You can get it on telegram as Shelby american
Thanks
@@joisvarghese where's the telegram link?
Does anybody know the background music?
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@@joisvarghese James Everingham The Quiet Child.
Took a while to find out.....
The car Miles is shown testing at 0:15 is NOT a J car.
So what did Ferrari say
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