WTF IS A DARKVOICE?
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DarkVoice 336SE - amzn.to/1jeonG3
Welcome to my unboxing and test of the DarkVoice 336SE. Here are some more details courtesy of Massdrop - www.massdrop.c...
Sound Quality
Imagine the silence stepping onto the field of an empty NFL stadium, in an empty town, on an empty island, surrounded by miles of wind-less oceans. Everything sounds better contrasted with a blank backdrop. The DarkVoice's blackness makes you notice each note and adds a dimension of accuracy you can't appreciate with audible distortion. This amp has warm mids (thanks to the tubes), analytic highs, and transparent bass. Bob Dylan's voice in "Don't Think Twice, It's Alright" is pleasingly abrasive. Coupling tube warmth and OTL Circuit design produces the cleanest warmth we've heard in any amp so far.
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As mentioned at various points throughout this video, this is not the completed setup! I obviously don't intend on using a $300 amp with an iPhone + MP3s. I have other components on the way (thought I was clear about this in the video). The intent of this video is simply an unboxing and first impressions, please view / comment accordingly.
I'm actually happily surprised by how much research you obviously put into this before the video, and your understanding of the scenario you used in the video. People are just lame and like to look past the extremely in-your-face explanations in the video. I've been looking for some sub-$500 headphone amps and will definitely be looking into these in a few weeks.
Why didn't you use the v-moda m100s
Search power glove and go to shopping
you have to use a lightning connector to audio to be able to bypass the iPhones amplifier
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Unbox Therapy If you want the whole "warm" sound you should wait 'til the valves get warmer. I personally love the warm sound of the tubes, that sound drive me back in the time. Great vid!
thumb love ? lol thats new ..... but im all thumbs for you man
I thought this was going to be a cool gadget for disguising your voice when you ask for ransom on a wealthy person (not that I would do that)
😂😂😂
Same, I thought it would be an analog voice distorter to make you sound like DedSec or something.
thought it was gonna be darth vader voice for some reason lol
You can do that with a helium balloon and a desk fan.
So we got to listen to you flap your mouth, and watch you listen to music on headphones? you couldn't plug the output into your recording equipment? I WANT MY 13 MINUTES BACK.
12:59 minutes
+AceSurvivalistGames You mean, 12.9833333.. minute?
+Trahean Hoi no
AceSurvivalistGames
12:59 isn't a measure for minutes, it is a timestamp...
+Trahean Hoi I couldn't care less 😂😂
..what's in my fridge.......for fucks sake.
***** read my mind
***** Agree.
***** Hey some people are high and hungry and wanna know.
***** They're surely looking for information; what products are preferred and such.
***** I think it's an interesting thing to share. Seeing someone elses fridge is weird and almost alien like.
Hmmmmmmm the V sauce guy really let himself go
lol
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was hoping for a Darth Vader Voice Changer Machine lol
me too
yep
Welcome to the Nuts Club
Can someone recommend a device like that ? Make / model ?
you mean a darth vader voice changer?
Proof that anyone can review anything on youtube and have no clue what they are doing.
I can't agree more
Why would I wanna know what's in your fridge
why not
that's what I'v said too xDD
+bud wiser that's what I've said too xDD
Why would we want to know want is in anyone's fridge
+Tyler Rhea why wouldn't we is the better question
My god this video must be embarrassing for you. You are streaming a song on soundcloud on a phone then putting it through an analogue amp and expecting to hear a difference. Anything you heard was a placebo.
While not the ideal listening scenario, you are incorrect in your assumptions. Adding this amp to the chain (running any signal through the tubes) most certainly adds color to the sound.
Lew is correct, you can actually hear a difference when comparing a tube amplifier and the one in the iPhone, the tubes does color sound.
What you're saying is kind of like saying if you plug a guitar into a solid state amp or modelling amp and then into a tube amp the different heard will be a placebo effect... Even if soundcloud (a cheap guitar) isn't the best quality audio source the different amp will color it different. When you buy a tube anything you're probably not buying it for clarity (which i'm assuming is why you're saying soundcloud is a bad source). You buy a tube amplifier for its warm colored sound. Not something you'd find in a studio, but if you enjoy a warm sound then that's what it's for.
There certainly is a difference to be heard, you wannabe smart-ass. It will just both sound like crap. Whats embarassing is this whole test setup.
Maher Gamer The original post by Bait Gatsby at the very top.
3 flaws.
1. The tubes need to warm up before testing, so you should have had another player hooked up to the amplifier for about 10-15 minutes before listening through it.
2. The headphones are a bit to lowfi to really benefit from the difference.
3. The best way to get everything out of the tubes would be to use an analog source for sound, like HQ tapes or vinyl(Or at least uncompressed audio.).
But sure it makes for a slight difference anyways, but this setting was really off for the purpose of testing out a tube headphone amplifier.
Not even 30 seconds into the video and questioning what life is now. Who needs or wants to know what is in someone's fridge?
i know right
i think that's why I watched this - like trying to describe a colour to a blind man. Can't wait to see what's in his fridge lol
I'm wondering if i'm the only one who came to look at this video and hoped to have a "Darth Vader" alike voice transformer
lolnoobhax Most probably yes.
lolnoobhax I sort of had that idea too
lolnoobhax fuck yo starwarz
lolnoobhax huehuehue
Surely it's me
What are you doing. You can't touch a tube when installing it like that. Think of it like a headlight bulb
+Jesse Belanger No. You can you tubes with your hand, as long as they're not too hot.
No you can't bud I play guitar I deal with tube amps all the time
Jesse Belanger So do I.
Then you should know better my friend. The oil from your hands stays on it even when it's cold. Then when you turn it on it burns it on to the tube
This one probably doesn't run hot enough anyways
I thought the Darkvoice was Morgan Freeman.
same XD
3:36 YOU HAD ONE JOB.
holy crap, you gotta be kidding me
Uses multiple high quality items... and has an iPhone.
Facepalm
at least it isn't plastic
+Cheesyverse YET......
Faisal Almalki Plastic wouldn't keep a bend like aluminium
If it is a durable plastic that doesn't crack like APS then yes, much better than bendable aluminium.....
thought the same thing DJ Cans on a Tube amp :) and I-phone like putting a Bugatti engines in a VW bug
I feel like i'm the type of person to buy this for $300 then be like, okay so now what?
+Sparta Gaming While some don't have $300
+Sayan Chakroborty ok
so?
are you making him feel bad cus others are broke?
😢
does know one get the reference with $"300" and his name has sparta in it.
Looks like a pretty needless Device
Ha, this dweeb
every gadget it fucking needless you dork.
we get this shit because we want it not need it. god dayummmm
yeah i already knew lol? thanks for spoiling it for anyone that isnt up to date, what an ass hole.
Mikasa Ackerman self centred bitch, would you honestly pay for this device? Yes it is really cool, but it seems to fulfill little purpose.
Not in you work in the Music industry (Like I do) Or you just like listening to high quality audio. What you are saying is like saying why would you buy a HDTV you don't need it but it enhances the experience.
The truth is, Digital is actually *supposed* to be higher quality, but mixing and mastering techniques have gotten really lazy and lack polish these days, because it's easier to just squash the shit out of the song rather than refine it. The problem isn't the Digital Age, it's the Digital Mentality.
dropkickproductiontx The tools for mastering have refined over the years... sadly, majority of the people who use them do it in ways that just make Vinyl look like it should be kept on sale.
Lew is so much different now
ikr
Rolf, considering this video was made 2 years ago.
money+fame changes people
+Talal Hattoukh you make it sound like he changed for the worse, to me he is much better now.
I barely know who this guy is, but he seems a lot better in these older videos. Calmer and more informative, like a real tech channel, while in the newer videos he's just screaming and trying to be funny as if he's targeting a much younger audiance
you should also let the amp warm up for a couple of hours before listening to it otherwise you wont get the full sound quality.
Only a couple minutes,
hours aren't needed.
if its a brand new amp then id say at least an hour, especially as its valve.
Tubes definitely have a break in period. My 12AX7s changed tremendously over a few days as they were broken in. But, once that occurs, generally like you say a few minutes of on time should be enough to warm them up.
They way you typed it makes it seem like you have to let it warm up for "HOURS" every time you turn it on
aww that's a shame.
"So I'm just zoning out a bit..." [later] "AND NOW I'M JUST ADJUSTING THE VOLUME"
I thought this is gonna be some dope darth vader shit
ikr
Or Kylo Ren
Kylo Ren ain't dope
Same lol
Manu Asphyxiation Lol me too 😂
Hey, just a tip: When using devices in a chain you can demonstrate the effect of the device by running a file through it in an effect loop between your PCs out and inputs and record it.
This, of course, does not simulate the player or playback device, but it does work pretty well for demonstrating amplifiers or effects(I use the direct output from my amplifier when I record, and it sounds good even after digitalization. I also use an amazing pedal called the warped vinyl as preamp to "analogize" everything). It's a misconception that analog sounds are better than digital ones, rather analog typically has a very subtle but effective tone coloration going on that will stay in the file, even in mp3 format.
Long story short, you could easily have demonstrated the effect of the preamp to your viewers, simply by recording it.
Skip to 2 mins to avoid BS waffling on
Thanks
that was the whole thing
This is 95 percent of TH-cam now.... GET TO THE POINT!
Now? this was in 2014
thnx
Takes good amp/decent headphones, then plugs into iPod with compressed, shit audio. I know, I know, typical consumer, etc....BUT, this amp is not designed for typical consumer, it is designed for people who are picky about their audio and wanting a certain sound, and who will NOT plug their iPhone into it because they will use a good/clean/un-raped source.
*****
LPs, CDs (hoping they mixed them properly), and uncompressed digital from the PC (WAV).
And how do you know the file is badly compressed on his phone? You never saw or heard it, you just automatically call it shit because you're an elitist audiosnob.
Behind TheWall
From one of his other Vids...he said what he uses, don't remember which one. I am not an "elitist", I just have experienced the difference, and have equipment that ALLOWS me to hear the difference. Just because someone is not happy with the poor quality bullshit that most other people are (especially the younger generations), doesn't make me anything but someone who enjoys good sound, and LISTENING to their music. And if you are NOT someone "like me", then you are completely wasting your money on things like this, and are buying it for reasons that make you more of a snob than you could EVER label me.
If he really said elsewhere that he was playing a badly compressed mp3, I apologize.
+Gerff a lot of devices have the capability to playback lossless files...
Love the 3 dollar RCA cables
John Walsh had a giggle too...
And how he puts the red in the white and white in red
+xXx_illuminati_overload_xXx yep I noticed the exact same thing. He showed us the back and the red was without a doubt on the bottom. he then proceeded to plug the red in the white.
+John Walsh those cables would have ruined the sound well before it even got to that shitty ass amp.
It looks pretty cheap, yeah I know it's $300+ and it is metal but come' on.. all the logos are tilted and the text isnt even in the middle. These are some little things that make it a stereotypical chinese product.
i think this is isolated to the DV units bought from MASSDROP. i bought mine directly from aliexpress and everything is looking ans sounding fine.
Actually the darkvoice is one of the greatest tube amps out there and is preferred my most audiophiles do to its very bassy sound
i thought its bass was recessed at the cost of soundstage
+noah marchais stop talking loser
The Darkvoice is a bad tube amp, the cheapest quality OTL tube amp you can get is the LittleDot Mk1/2/3...
Instrumental beat in the back ground is called "dreams" by j. Cole
thanks alot
mvp
Isn't it rather a remix of kanye's Drive Slow since he uses a lot of kanye's instrumentals in multiple videos or at least a remix of it. He used another remix of a kanye beat later in this video too ;)
Guess it doesn't really matter though, alot of rappers use the same samples and the real original song never gets credit. Tupac actually also has a song with the sample which J. Cole and Kanye used in Dreams and Drive Slow
or Eminem's "no ones iller" instrumental
Not Kanye West's Drive Slow? Isn't it Good Morning Instrumental???
And then you use 128 kb/sec. and feel ripped off :D
but that's to do with frequency inclusion. Although I guess they should've used spotify or deezer (higher fequency included due to the greater rate) with Bob Dylan it wouldn't have helped much
+Macusercom Depends on compression, 64kbs with .AAC compression almost sounds like CD quality, while the same bitrate in MP3 sounds like a 20 year old take recording under a pile of moist leaves.
Galvanized Dreamer yh but even youtube is 128, 320 though is where the difference is almost impossible .
I've just gotten the point where I hit the thumbs up at the beginning. Might as well get it out of the way.
Same
Amen to that
sheep
so much going on there. the pic.....the name.......the comment that does not quite makes sense. bet you have a neck beard and a pic of you with your sword on facebook.
You meant "thamurai thord" gotta phoneticise the lisp hahaha
You gotta leave the valve (heat tube) to heat up a little bit longer to enable great sound from this valve Amplifier. The more heat the better sound coming out from it.
Omigod there no need to buy a friggin brick to make my music alive
***** Being an audiophile is stupid
Obbliteration not if you are smart about buying. I do find the whole thing worth it so far. It's just like how ppl still watch movies at theatres even if u can just watch the dvd at home, it's for the experience u get with their high end sound systems and high def film.
3:41 the rca cables are plugged into the wrong corresponding color #triggered
lmao and basic rca cables that cost 4 dollar.
@@daath1442 yep, he did everything in his power, to keep it as low-fi as possible.
Stock DAC, stock Cables, Spotify 128 kbps sound files, "old school hip hop beat" Lmao....
Stock Headphone...
Also he used a low-impedance headphone with an OTL amp... Dear lord, you should not hook that amp up with anything less than 300 ohms .. ^^ OTL amps noisefloor raises exponentially the lower impedance load is.. at 50 ohm, you could barely power the headphone, and the hum and hiss is very audible..
as an audiophile for the past 30 years I can tell you that the quality of the RCA cables matters greatly as I noticed the ones used wasn't even gold plated...but all the same I love your channel dude.
Silver plated is better than gold plated
dont touch the glass unless with gloves
I know it burns your finger oils onto the glass but does it really change how they perform?
+PaperStax In theory it reduces their life. The oils on the glass will become a hot spot.
Well there you go +PaperStax. Finger em all you want lol
Hahahha i was just screaming that to the tv
Is that "Drive Slow" by Kanye in the background?
+LWGArcade and good morning
I think its dreams by j cole
Same sample different songs
Wow he has really come into his own with this channel. These older vids vs the newer stuff really showcase how his personality comes through.
DonProducci - Sugar (SugarBear Beat) 8:27
Thank You!
No Problem! Thought somebody would want to know! :)
Thanks!
thank you!
darkvoice, the machine that makes songs brighter
generally , if music seems brighter on tube amps , is related to the loss of low end audio . most tube amp need huge , high priced transformers to play low frequent music . so , if they are not visible , do not expect good low end performance .
Wow. his attitude was different. No over-acting, just straight reviews. Damn you bend gate!
Buy an analog headphones amplifier adn test it with some crapy 256kbps mp3 and a Iphone that compress the sound ... /clap very slowly
Honestly i cant hear the difference between 256 and 320 or even 450kpbs
because you don't doesn't mean nobody does
Good point, My ears are mildly bad.
jose guerrero and so you are, classy gentlemen
there is a reason for the size of a great amp like the dark voice, just ask yourself why
Thought it was a deep morgan freeman narrator voice that i could follow my ex around with
Found your channel and been watching some of your newer videos. Only gone by suggestions rather than trawling your video collection, this is the first old one I've seen. MUCH better than your newer ones.
Go back to being calmer brah.
I think most of guys that say this is a waste of money are kids that listen comercial music or now-a-days shit electronic music (like most dubstep or trap songs, shitty club music). If you really enjoy quality music and want more from your music, or a new experience for relaxation, I think this thing is good for that. Anyways, I don't know how many people really care about sound..
***** Electronic music is good, I listen too, but nowadays, there are so many bad songs, sadly :(
Le wrong generation amirite? XD
Jared Kruschev Hip hop sucks donkeyballs
Rem ko Name a few hip hop artists you think make the genre bad.
Australia has got a terrible music reputation at the moment, its all like any house and trance mostly stuff like deep and prog house. And I'm just over here like where's the Nu disco?
"WTF IS A DARKVOICE?".... Well *Schiit*, It ain't no Asgard 2, that's for *Shure*. Btw you said, "To bring back some of that warmth, that individuals used to get on analogue audio" Audio you listen to is analogue that why you have dac's.
Massdrop seems pretty cool. I mean really, instead of not being able to eat for 2 months and losing your house because you bought a pair of headphones, you get to not eat for 1 month and lose your house because you bought a pair of headphones!
Yoooooooo, I like that background music. Dreams by J. Cole :D
+anarchyknife yeah i noticed that too
+anarchyknife Drive Slow - Kanye West used the sample in the beginning if i am remembering correctly.
+Dustin Hannah you're right. Kanye sampled the beat on "Good Morning" from the album "Graduation" in 2007
+henry alton a good excuse to revisit graduation, but this sample was used in drive slow i just relistened
One does not handle Hi-Fi tubes with the fingers. The oil from your fingers! The OIL!!!!
It really doesn't matter that much. Relax.
Watching this is like watching you review a Ferrari, without any prior experience of anything near its performance and driving around a small parking lot in automatic mode.
I would always say, that if you want to listen to music as the band/artist/engineers intended, don't use a valve amp - completely pointless. It will colour the sound.
Analogue is not warmer. It's a nonsense. Vinyl as a format will inherently have a very different sound to a CD/mp3/whatever, providing the original recording was onto tape. It's a great sound, no doubt, for whatever reason you choose to believe, and it's as close to what was being listened to (on tape - if it was recorded to tape) in the studio as you can get at home, but the whole analogue amp thing is silly. In my opinion.
A valve changes the sound. In many ways it would be like being given a blu-ray film, and the first thing you did was load it into final cut or avid, and changed a whole bunch of visual things. Why would you? The people who made this work have already mixed and mastered it to sound like they wanted, with not a valve/tube in sight. Do them the respect of listening to it as they wanted.
Valve/Tube amps were made to be warmer, whereas solid state amplifiers are less warm by nature.
buddinmaplestory The mix engineers made the music as "warm" as they wanted - they, the musicians, the mastering engineers, they made the decisions. A valve changes what they wanted you to hear. Why would you want it warmer? Why is warmer better? It's a nonsense.
You call something nonsense after writting a totally ignorant and nonsensical comment like that? I love it when people come up with theories of how "tube amps color the sound" but ignore the obvious facts that speakers / headphones highly color the sound, your room colors the sound if you use speakers, you earlobes color the sound depending on their shape and size, ear canals color the sound differently from person to person, physiology, neurophysiology of hearing differs a bit from person to person, psychoacoustics plays a big role in it as well, all amplifiers slightly color the sound, A/D and D/A converters slightly color the sound...even cables can sometimes color the sound. What kind of carpet or curtains you have in a room can drastically change the sound of the room. EVERYTHING colors the sound. The point is to find a combination of colorations between all these parts that end up sounding best to you. I really struggle to understand why some people don't get this, and why it's not as clear as a day to everyone out there who talks down on tube amps. You will NEVER EVER get exactly what is on the recording. Not even a studio that made the recording can reproduce exactly what's on the recording they've made, because their equipment colors the sound too. So stop pretending to be one of those ridiculous purists who refuse to listen to anything that's not "neutral" in their mind, even though it has nothing whatsoever to do with neutrality.
derbigpr500"It's difficult to reproduce sound accurately, so don't bother". Nice one, great thought process there.
Malc180s At least it is better than yours. Also you didn't quote properly
I already have a $1000 audio/video receiver with a built-in amp from the late 1980s that I use regularly. Would the Darkvoice sound any different?
AtlasVulpes Depends, Most receiver's from that era are really gems and made in much higher quality than modern amp's
+Joop Roukens
really
yes those analog receivers have awesome sound! but do you listen too headphones, stereo or dolby?
Joop Roukens
I listen through a pair of Skullcandy Crushers.
+AtlasVulpes kinda funny that your amp is so expensive but then you are listening to skull candys
You have a million more subscribers as compared to MKBHD. And yet, everyone these days seems to say "MKBHD is the best tech reviewer there is". No, I don't think so. I think you are equally (sometimes better, sometimes worse) good!
Who's watching in 2016
who cares?
mah
Exactly no one fucking cares. People like you are CANCER on fucking youtube.
oh oh okay, bro don't take it too far man, if you want cancer, go watch dramaalert, once you do i guarantee you'll aapologize
whats wrong with dramaalert?
Did he not clean off the tubes after touching them with his bare, oily hands?
Watching in 2016, His video quality has gone up so much. He doesn't get lost in sentences and repeat shit over and over.
Should have used MUCH higher end headphones for this, $800 plus
That's exactly what these amps are designed for. He used an amplifier to amplify a 32 ohm source with a 32 ohm set of headphones. In this circumstance the best thing an amp could do for you is lower distortion at very high volume, even then it depends on the headphones.
And you should have a million dollar car.
***** You'd be surprised at how many people spend over a grand on their headphones, and much more money on the amps and DACs.
All you need as prober player for an amp like this is any good quality 192 KHz 24-bit USB soundcard, and then Foobar2000 as software player .......... and you'll be fine.
Audiophiles have known the sound quality of tube amps for a long long time. It will be hard to change the habits of young consumers that haven't a clue to what their missing.
Tube amps separate each instrument as if you were there live. Glad to see someone is putting this old school technology out there. You were impressed. Draw back....$$$$$
audiophiles are likely ripping their hair out watching this video. Also just FYI, the LG V10 has 32 bit HI-FI DAC if you're looking for a phone with high quality output.
Looks like he already has
+twistdshade audiophiles are the most douch people in the tech community. You literally can't say anything about audio quality these days without getting run over by some audiophile man child. Jesus if you want a in depth review of some kind of HiFi equipment good read a detailed review...
+Jealius EU I'm a bit of an audio enthusiast. I do appreciate good audio quality, I'm able to tell the difference between good and bad audio equipment, I just don't run around spending hundreds of dollars on the stuff. so no, I'm not an audiophile if that's what you're implying here.
twistdshade sure think i just see a lot of HiFi people talk smack to everyone who doesn't care to much about sound quality.
+twistdshade I do like good sound quality myself and has a pair of beyerdynamic, but i dont feel the need to talk trash to people who are fine with a normal cheap headset.
So 13 minutes and we don't even get to hear what it sounds like?
I agree this isn't a good review unless I get to hear it. Please send me the amp and I will thumbs up the video.
well wouldn't that be completely useless unless you got the same thing plugged in at home while watching this video? As the audio is made digital because of the recording? Yeah.....
You got to see the tubes glow.
+TheRainbowPilot not a review anyway
if he did, you would STILL be listening to it thru your OWN speakers and might comment that there's no difference at all. Just saying.
I remember the first time I played New Super Mario Brothers with earphones. There was so much more to hear in the music with those than the rickety old DS lite speakers. My earphones weren't even that good, but they opened up a whole new world of sound to me which I will never forget.
This darkvoice looks amazing and I can only dream of what these new gen gadgets sound like.
Sweet video ;-)
Streaming a sond on soundcloud?? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU???
You used the word "audiophile" so you should know at least about stuff like FLAC or how music is meant to be played with such a tubeamp: Lossless!!
Stop doing such reviews if you dont know a thing about the topic!
He isn't an audiophile
It was painful to watch for my ears.
TheEscape2012 You're dumb. Its not a review, its an unboxing video. Its not about HIFI, its about whats the difference...
Anyway, FLAC is not completly losless.
WAV is.
aflac82 And it makes not a single flying fuck of a difference
aflac82 Actually, FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) IS completely lossless, as well as ALAC (Apple Lossless Audio Codec) and other similar codecs.
While they compress the data, the uncompressed file when played is identical to the source.
don't think it's good for the tubes to be touched with bare hands!
The amp wasn't plugged in or used before that, so it was actually pretty safe for both the tubes and him. He didn't risk getting shocked which is the main thing about placing tubes in the amp. Plus you're not touching any of the electronics in the actual tube, so it's okay. I can understand the concern though.
The grease from your fingers transfers to the the glass. As the glass heats up the grease melts makes it more likely for the glass to crack.
thundavolt good to know :) I mean the oils from your skin shouldn't be enough to really compromise the glass. Unless you just ate some nice, greasy food or are constantly touching the tubes. So I still don't really see the REAL danger in that.
Hayden Groover The glass is typically more fragile that your regular light bulb.
Actually the glass is quite a bit thicker than a lightbulb.
If you could read the manual the first line says: Don't touch the glass tubes with your bare fingers. Oils from your fingers can make the tube explode when they heat up.
Why do we care what's in your fridge is that seriously a thing now?!
this was 2 years ago..
Please tell me you're not that fucking dumb.
wait what
3:34 He connected the channels the wrong way around for god sake, he had one job! This video isn't that good. Let's get a real audiophile on the show, that actually knows what he's doing.
BlueBetaPro
Your balance tuna has no obstruction until the bright flavored cap flips.
Wow you've improved a lot over the last 2 years! Great job brotha.
Nothing is better than tubes. Thats why I only use Marshall tube driven heads.
for sound accuracy no. but for colouration yes they are the best. it depends on what you like really I prefer a less accurate but warmer sound from tube Amps. some others don't. but hen some others forget that the reason why many do this is ton enjoy their audio better
+Wood Heat lol audiophiles :D you funny
+MrBratkenSolov Especially with guitar players, it doesn't even has something to do with "audiophiles"; While tube amps for Hifi are usually just a slight upgrade (if you prefer the tone) to a good solid state amp; but for guitar amps, tube amplifiers are worlds apart from their solid state counterparts. If you can affort it, you would be stupid to not get a good tube amp.
Behemothokun
100% agree. Nothing compares to a tube head and a Les Paul.
Behemothokun if you can't afford a guitar one making them is still a thing harder and easy to screw up but can save you a massive load of money
I prefer schiit audio. I have the Asgard 2
Hahaha schiit.
I also have the Asgard 2.
I have the Schiit Lyr (original) which is a type of hybrid i like alot. It's got a little more clinical control than pure tube/vale amp. Subjectively diferent people may like or dislike that quality. I just found out there is a version 2, interesting.
Schiit is better.
I love the sound from older CRT televisions better than the speakers integrated into modern HD TV
What's the name of the song that starts at 8:27??
3:36 "DONOT OPEN" wtf!?! lol
And why are "INPUT" and "OUTPUT" printed in different font?
All it needs is a *MADE IN CHINA* lol
It's a DV unit, so there are some things like that :P
I thought I was the only one who noticed that
Some info: don't touch the valves using your hands: sodium from your sweat will go thtu the glass and react with the gas inside the valve - use a glove or a cloth. Also, tube amps are "warmer" because their distortion are on the 2nd and 4th harmonics - which means one and two octaves above. That makes for a fuller sound on small loudspeakers. I like it - but that is personal on a time when near zero distortion can be achieved with inexpensive tripath amps.
2019 anyone
2015
RCA
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D2therJ RCA itself is simply a connector, the signal sent through it its analogue so it really doesn't affect the quality unless there is poor quality equipment on either end or a dodgy connector/cable. A properly shielded RCA cable would be better but otherwise this is fine.
Carbon Toast It's 2015, there's no excuse to not be using XLR. Unless the hardware is ancient and doesn't have that port.
Carbon Toast Just again, I wasn't attacking the host for using RCA. But the product.
***** My point exactly, this is gear aimed at audiophiles. It makes no sense why they'd ship with RCA other than to cut costs.
***** Nah, it's blatant cost cutting.
great video.. I really appreciate the higher production value in your more recent videos.
whats the music at 8:27 ?
Good Morning - Kanye West
thx
LICUIDATOR It's actually Sugar by DonProducci.
It's actually Taken from Kanye West, as already stated, and he took it From Elton john.
AHHHH THE J COLE BEATTTT
Sam STS which song?
song is Dreams on J. Coles The Warm Up mixtape
Matt Karalow k thx man
What's the second beat in this video? It's so familiar but I can't seem to remember which on it is.
DonProducci - Sugar (SugarBear Beat)
Not sure if this was pointed out already, but your channels were flipped when you plugged in the headphone to RCA White (L) into the R Amp input and the RCA Red (R) into the L Amp input. The soundfield will come out flipped when doing the A/B comparison.
what's the song called at 8:40 ?
thx
+Lukas Wölfel Someone saved my life tonight from Elton John. But Kanye West has sampled it in Good Morning.
Steffen2k7 Thank you very much!
+Lukas Wölfel Darude. Sandstorm.
+Mountain Dew sample text
+Lukas Wölfel Kanye West- Life of Pablo- Wolves
So you TALK about an audio device, but NEVER let us hear it on this video?!? There's a "major malfunction" between your ears.
- Play song from a phone to a tube amplifier.
- Say that digital music feels less "alive".
You were listening to digital music all the time, bro.
Tube amps are kinda for hipsters tbh ...all those "audiophiles" swearing by them not realizing all they do is distort the sound. They pay hundreds to get "balanced" (horribly shitty, baseless, flat sounding) earphones/IEMS etc ... then they will add a 1000$ tube amp and distort the boring flat sound, so they can sit around a table listen to one or two tracks and act like that was some mind blowing experience when a decent phone (with a descent DAC) a good pair of headphones or IEMS .. (hell even chinese ultra budget IEMS are insanely good nowadays ... take a look at the Zircon rock, for 8 fuckng euro) you'd get the same if not almost the same experience
Frequency saturation is not distortion. You sound angry and ignorant.
you are angry and dont know what you talking about.
+Tim The Aussie Well said. You said everything I was going to....and more!
Flat headphones arent bad doh just saying
No they're not bad, they're better because you get to hear everything closer to how it was produced lol
These chinese "tube maps" is bordering a scam. rip it open and trace it out - In a lot of cases the tubs aren't even in the signal chain or used as a buffer in the preamp stage doing virtually nothing. Im not saying it's the case here but there's every reason to be skeptical. That aside, the whole premise of using tubes in hifi appliances is BS. Designing and producing good sounding tube amps is very very difficult. In most cases, modern mosfet tech is superior in every way.
The only sane appliance of tubes is in instrument amps.
For all the ppl buying into audiophoolery BS a tour in a professional recording studio would be an eye opener. You know whats better than 500 $ monster cables? 10 $ balanced XLR cables...
Thats BS, they used to sell kits you made yourself, back in the 80's
michaelmazzen i love you
The dollar sign goes at the start
I thought this would be a thing that made your voice really deep and cool sounding. Like this gas called sulphur hexafluoride it has an effect which is basically the opposite of helium.
Pure placebo effect.
lol you're completely wrong
it's a pretentiously named hipster product, no need to waste 13 mins
Only come here every through months to read that comment that embarrasses the channel owner
Things like this are why the Zune shot up to 500 dollars plus on ebay after they went out of production, it can output in full lossless quality with either WAV or FLAC. Not a single ipod or i=anything in the bunch that can boast that. RIP Zune, you were the device the audiophiles needed, but not the one they deserved.
More audiophile nonsense.
Morlanius any hobby is nonsense if you go deeper into it
Whatever else it changes (or doesn't change), that thing is cool-lookin'.
So glad you came out of your shell and no longer talk like a nervous casket salesman. Good work, Jack.
Your fridge? You wanna look in my laundry basket?
The Darkvoice has the ability to drive headphones with heavy requirements for power, thinking of a 600-ohm pair of cans, for example, my Sennheiser 650HD's are 300amp cans. Ideally, if you were listening to digital music connecting a DAC (Digital-to-Analog) converter to your computer, then output that data into the input of the DarkVoice Tube amp is really the best way to go. There are many DACs available, however, you'll want to find a DAC that outputs via RCA outputs, which of course is the cabling you'll need between your DAC and this Darkvoice tube amp. Since this video was made Apple Music now streams in a lossless format. Combined with all the right equipment you can have an awesome listening experience for a handful of dollars. Certainly, one you'll never forget. Personally, I wouldn't bother driving hardware like this with my phone, but as you can see it can be done.
MOSFET amplifiers of good quality will have the same characteristics as tubes. Both tube and MOSFET devices have very high input impedance, and much lower output impedance. Tubes (Called Valves in the UK) are higher in odd harmonic distortion compared to regular solid state devices such as transistors.
Most modern solid state amplifier devices of decent quality are using MOSFET devices for handling the audio path. MOSFET and tube devices tend to make for soft clipping in the case of peaks in the signal being slightly over modulated. This allows for some forgiving with distortion in the sound that is on the edge of clipping.
The sound from the tube amplifier may should wider because the dynamic range on the tube amplifier is very high. Also the designer may be using more inverse feedback in attempt to reduce harmonics, and increase slew rate.
The quality of the sound cannot exceed the source. If the source from the computer or CD player, or whatever is used has poor characteristics, this cannot be fixed. It may be possible to mask some distortions to some degree.
Just to mention... All sound that we can hear must be analog. Digital sound must be processed using a D to A converter (digital to audio converter). We cannot hear binary sound!
Tubes use high voltage to run. The heaters in the tubes boil off electrons from the cathode. Heater temperature can typically get up to 1200 F to 1400 F on the cathode. Depending on the required voltage for particular tubes and signal demand can be in the rage from about 160 volts up to over 600 Volts. Most pre-amp devices like the one shown may typically be working in the 350 Volt range.
The electrons are attracted to the high voltage at the plate. There is a control grid to act as a valve control to be able to modulate or control the electron flow along its path, and thus work as a valve to use the high voltage side to amplify the effect. Many types of tubes have additional grids such as a screen grid and an accelerator grid. These grids are used to boost and or control the electron flow even more. The design is complex to explain in a description.
If you have a tube amplifier and it requires service, send it out to a qualified service center. These are dangerous for the do-it-yourself-er to try to service, and most likely you will not have success unless you really know what you are doing and have the sources for replacement parts. The high voltage used in tube circuits can pack a decent punch, and can be "deadly".
I am sort of on the old side. Back in the 1960, I was working in audio and video, and power supply circuit design. Much of what I was working with in the lab was tube. during the late 60's they started with hybrid design where they were using both solid state and tube together to get the best of both. From my point of view the modern MOSFET and FET devices can do anything a tube can do. Using tubes is more of a novelty. Tubes over time will degrade and have to be replaced. Solid state devices will normally have very little degrading until they completely fail, or for some time before full failure.
the rca cables that you connected from the Dark voice to your phone were basic rca's and mono in a sense. They weren't gold plated so actually you may not have experienced the real sounds via the Dark voice because of that.
Digital music does lack that "Warmth" i miss from older music....thanks for showing me this, might grab one if i can afford it x3
I'm not going to say running your music through a tube amp won't affect the sound at the end because that would be a lie. But what it will do is adds compression (bad in this application as it reduces the dynamic range) and change the EQ (usually scooping mids) but most smartphones allow you to do that anyway and you can fine tune them where as you have a set EQ using a tube amp. Analogue isn't always better, a pressed lp won't be perfect compared to the mold and will wear out but 1s and 0s will be perfect and won't wear out.
Tubes and that massive transformer add harmonic distortion and saturation. We like harmonic distortion and saturation because we perceive it as thick and bigger than a cold and sterile digital signal. What this really does is add a bit of that in there. The key is knowing how hard to drive the input to achieve the level of saturation and distortion desired. Does it make it better? You can't really answer that. Does it add things that weren't there previously? Absolutely it does.