this applies to any card. I like having a core group of high quality sounds that work without a computer, that will never need to be rebuilt after a computer crash.
Not interested in collecting cards per se, only maxing out 5080 with the best sounds available and no overlap. To that end it helps to know which SRX cards contain new waves that aren’t on the original SR-JV80 cards - e.g. Supreme Dance, Classic EP’s… Since the SR-JV Romulator is a thing, it's cheaper to flash your own SR-JV cards and go that route. It has to be said, demand is still high in 2023 for old Roland expansion cards, the Integra 7 and Roland cloud has done little to make them less desirable.
That's some valuable insight, thanks! I feel like the piano sounds on SRX-02 and 11 are great and it's still hard to find any affordable piano sound module now, so it's a close call (if you go hardware-only). Otherwise, I agree that the VSTs are cheaper and provide you with everything you need at a lower cost.
I'm on the fence as to whether I should start purchasing some of the SRX instruments. I've been producing music with FL Studio for the last 20 years and have been really getting bored with Nexus and Omnisphere. I don't exactly *NEED* some new VST's, but it would definitely help with inspiration. With that said.. should I purchase the SRX VSTs for FL? The price seems great at $70 dollars per. I'm shocked today was the first time hearing about these SRX plugins! Producing music has been my career since I was a teenager and I can't believe I've never heard of these plugins prior to today! They sound fantastic!
Question, does anyone here know: since the SRX boards (or "cards") bundled all the waveforms from the previous gen SR-JV80 boards, would it be possible to somehow get the SRX presets working using SR-JV80 boards? Could they be in Sysex form somewhere? I've got a hardware XV-5080 loaded with those, but don't have any SRX boards. The Cloud option is really convenient, though. All the waveforms are even searchable in recent versions of Zenology Pro, which is REALLY convenient.
You’d have to load a preset, save to user, the. Load that user preset and edit and remap all the waveforms to the waveforms on the old cards. Doable for a preset or two but not a bunch.
Well, they are now as VST plugins. But in certain point of view you're right. There are a lot of pretty good sounds found in many synths other than Roland. There are Yamaha, Korg, Moog, Nord, Oberheim, and some software like Arturia collections. The world of electronic music is not just about Roland.
I have an rd700 which had an SRX 02 and I wasn't impressed with that at all so I ended up selling it. Should I go by an SRX 11 or is there a better option?
I have owned both and the SRX-11 is lightyears better than the SRX-02. My issue is that I bought an RD-2000 and it does not contain the SRX-11 piano sound, which I use on multiple gigs/week.
But Roland Cloud isn't a cloud service. It's just a license key manager with a lease concept. It's only usable with a DAW in a studio. Would never go live with an always online service. The good thing is you can try and test and then buy lifetime keys. Got one for my System-8 and a Juno-60 plugout.
I bought a Trance and Dance card when Roland UK was dissolved for 79£ a piece. I bought also a XV5050 to put them into. When I started lusting for more cards (must be the hunter gatherer gene) I bought an Integra 7. That made hunting for more obsolete. The John Lord Rock Organ would be fun to have thought, but since I own a VR-730 there is no real need for it. Now I got an XP-30 I repaired myself and have two slots to fill. I guess the hunt is on again.
@@MeneTekelUpharsin Differences in the circuitry of different hardware models, particularly the digital-to-analog converters, can cause audible differences in the sound of samples and patches that, in principle, should sound the same. I would also not expect a software recreation of a hardware product, like a Roland Cloud virtual instrument, to sound indistinguishable from the original. Judgements about which options are better or worse are a matter of personal taste, though.
@@jazzualdoIntegra is better. I see a lot of people making a big deal about the DA converters being warmer on the older romplers. these people have never heard of an EQ. integra also has better sounding filters and effects
Maybe in the future I might get an Integra 7, that's personally the way I would go if I wanted SRX cards plus there are also a ton of Supernatural sounds as well as all the XV-5080 stock sounds. Even with the SRJV cards out of all the cards I have bought the only ones that really gelled with me are the Orchestral card and Bass and drums. I recently sold Session as many of the instruments on my SC-88 Pro are based on samples from Session and I honestly prefer how they sound on my SC-88 Pro. I only bought World because it came with the tools and I might sell Country as the SC-88 Pro's guitars are from there as well as the SC-8850's drums. I have also stopped collecting PCM cards for my U-220 and CM-32P because my SC-55 also has sounds from a few of those cards including it's harpsichord and clarinet but to be honest I mostly use the SRJV Orchestral card and Emu Proteus/2 for what my U-220 doesn't have. For now I have decided not to bother with Roland Cloud.
LOL this is a lot of random rambling. The SRX cards are questionable because SRX 1/2/3/4 are really specific limited expansions to fill a niche, and everything after SRX-05 is repackaged SR-JV80 cards. But that doesn't make them bad. The SRX cards are 64 MB, and they went back to the original source and put multiple SR-JV80 cards onto a single card in higher quality. SRX-07 Ultimate Keys is repackaged waveforms, but Spectrasonics went back and made new patches out of them on the newer XV hardware. That one's worth a lot. But a lot of that stuff is really stupid. SRX-12 is a bunch of repackaged EP sounds, and most of them are just adding different effects. Nobody needs 50 different types of Wurlitzer + flanger/chorus waveforms when the XV modules all had multiple MFX flangers with every possible parameter, even an arp-y step flanger, and even more chorus options. I think even SRX-04 is repackaged. Not from an SR-JV80 card but from older Roland CD-based orchestral samples. But it's really good if you want strings. The SRX-09 World sounds are just awful. Half the patch names are pretty cringe, and I think maybe the sounds were just aggressively overused in the '90s because to me it all sounds worse than anything on the 1991 Proteus/3 World. The only SRX card I actually want to use is SRX-05 Supreme Dance, because that was all new sounds for 2002, and it was done by Spectrasonics who did all the best Roland sounds. The Platinum Tracks card is much more dated because it's the repackaged overused '90s cards, so it mostly sounds like a worse version of an E-Mu Planet Phatt. If you want good retro '90s sounds you'd want to get the SR-JV80-06 Dance or M-DC1 Dance which was discontinued for copyright reasons so it wasn't repackaged as an SRX but it's easy to find.
I agree with most of this, but don't get that dance card. It's sucks. I had to return it. You would better with the Platinum Tracks. Putting multiple cards on one was a great idea. It give customers flexible options. I don't know what this dude is talking about. I got a XV5080 with 8 cards. The Interga-7 can only play 4 card or something dumb like that. That sucks!
Ya, He's pretty much saying he cant go the hardware route which i can understand but its not good to sway other people on it. The hardware versions of the SRX cards will sound warmer richer compared to the same SRX in roland cloud. The sounds might be the same BUT the VST versions will sound thin and cold. I can hear people even saying to go zenology = Roland cloud which you do get the SRX but again its VSTS and zenology from what i heard sounds thin which has alot of SRX sounds in it and again the hardware would sound fuller.
this applies to any card. I like having a core group of high quality sounds that work without a computer, that will never need to be rebuilt after a computer crash.
Not interested in collecting cards per se, only maxing out 5080 with the best sounds available and no overlap. To that end it helps to know which SRX cards contain new waves that aren’t on the original SR-JV80 cards - e.g. Supreme Dance, Classic EP’s… Since the SR-JV Romulator is a thing, it's cheaper to flash your own SR-JV cards and go that route. It has to be said, demand is still high in 2023 for old Roland expansion cards, the Integra 7 and Roland cloud has done little to make them less desirable.
That's some valuable insight, thanks! I feel like the piano sounds on SRX-02 and 11 are great and it's still hard to find any affordable piano sound module now, so it's a close call (if you go hardware-only). Otherwise, I agree that the VSTs are cheaper and provide you with everything you need at a lower cost.
I'm on the fence as to whether I should start purchasing some of the SRX instruments.
I've been producing music with FL Studio for the last 20 years and have been really getting
bored with Nexus and Omnisphere. I don't exactly *NEED* some new VST's, but it would
definitely help with inspiration. With that said.. should I purchase the SRX VSTs for FL?
The price seems great at $70 dollars per. I'm shocked today was the first time hearing
about these SRX plugins! Producing music has been my career since I was a teenager
and I can't believe I've never heard of these plugins prior to today! They sound fantastic!
Can't forget Zenology, as much it can be costly and taxing on hardware resources, feels like an Integra-7 in software form
Mention: The samples of all SN-U110 cards are included in the Roland SR-JV80-07 Super Sound Set Expansion Board 😊!
I love and collect all of the jv and srx cards
Question, does anyone here know: since the SRX boards (or "cards") bundled all the waveforms from the previous gen SR-JV80 boards, would it be possible to somehow get the SRX presets working using SR-JV80 boards? Could they be in Sysex form somewhere? I've got a hardware XV-5080 loaded with those, but don't have any SRX boards.
The Cloud option is really convenient, though. All the waveforms are even searchable in recent versions of Zenology Pro, which is REALLY convenient.
You’d have to load a preset, save to user, the. Load that user preset and edit and remap all the waveforms to the waveforms on the old cards. Doable for a preset or two but not a bunch.
Well, they are now as VST plugins. But in certain point of view you're right. There are a lot of pretty good sounds found in many synths other than Roland. There are Yamaha, Korg, Moog, Nord, Oberheim, and some software like Arturia collections. The world of electronic music is not just about Roland.
Vst plugins? Isn't that what he's saying
But Roland vsts tops all
I just bought the srx-12 because I need it.
I have an rd700 which had an SRX 02 and I wasn't impressed with that at all so I ended up selling it. Should I go by an SRX 11 or is there a better option?
No, try something older: XP30, XP60 or XP80, or a midi controller with a JV1010/JV1080
You can listen to some of their videos first.
I have owned both and the SRX-11 is lightyears better than the SRX-02. My issue is that I bought an RD-2000 and it does not contain the SRX-11 piano sound, which I use on multiple gigs/week.
on point regarding the benefits of Roland Cloud.
But Roland Cloud isn't a cloud service. It's just a license key manager with a lease concept. It's only usable with a DAW in a studio.
Would never go live with an always online service. The good thing is you can try and test and then buy lifetime keys. Got one for my System-8 and a Juno-60 plugout.
I bought a Trance and Dance card when Roland UK was dissolved for 79£ a piece. I bought also a XV5050 to put them into. When I started lusting for more cards (must be the hunter gatherer gene) I bought an Integra 7. That made hunting for more obsolete. The John Lord Rock Organ would be fun to have thought, but since I own a VR-730 there is no real need for it.
Now I got an XP-30 I repaired myself and have two slots to fill. I guess the hunt is on again.
I've heard the sounds coming from the SRX boards are better than Integra 7. Do you think this is possible?
@@MeneTekelUpharsin Differences in the circuitry of different hardware models, particularly the digital-to-analog converters, can cause audible differences in the sound of samples and patches that, in principle, should sound the same. I would also not expect a software recreation of a hardware product, like a Roland Cloud virtual instrument, to sound indistinguishable from the original. Judgements about which options are better or worse are a matter of personal taste, though.
Why not just get an Integra 7? LOL, have you seen the price!
1.33 Kidneys
The price is one thing, the other is the sound. It doesn't even compare to good old JV1080.
@@jazzualdoIntegra is better. I see a lot of people making a big deal about the DA converters being warmer on the older romplers. these people have never heard of an EQ. integra also has better sounding filters and effects
Get a sampler man like the EMU ESI32 or E4xt or Elektron Octatrack 1 or Akai mpc one or live or X. Just sample it.
Maybe in the future I might get an Integra 7, that's personally the way I would go if I wanted SRX cards plus there are also a
ton of Supernatural sounds as well as all the XV-5080 stock sounds. Even with the SRJV cards out of all the cards I have bought
the only ones that really gelled with me are the Orchestral card and Bass and drums. I recently sold Session as many of the instruments
on my SC-88 Pro are based on samples from Session and I honestly prefer how they sound on my SC-88 Pro. I only bought World because it
came with the tools and I might sell Country as the SC-88 Pro's guitars are from there as well as the SC-8850's drums. I have also stopped
collecting PCM cards for my U-220 and CM-32P because my SC-55 also has sounds from a few of those cards including it's harpsichord
and clarinet but to be honest I mostly use the SRJV Orchestral card and Emu Proteus/2 for what my U-220 doesn't have. For now I have decided
not to bother with Roland Cloud.
LOL this is a lot of random rambling. The SRX cards are questionable because SRX 1/2/3/4 are really specific limited expansions to fill a niche, and everything after SRX-05 is repackaged SR-JV80 cards. But that doesn't make them bad. The SRX cards are 64 MB, and they went back to the original source and put multiple SR-JV80 cards onto a single card in higher quality. SRX-07 Ultimate Keys is repackaged waveforms, but Spectrasonics went back and made new patches out of them on the newer XV hardware. That one's worth a lot.
But a lot of that stuff is really stupid. SRX-12 is a bunch of repackaged EP sounds, and most of them are just adding different effects. Nobody needs 50 different types of Wurlitzer + flanger/chorus waveforms when the XV modules all had multiple MFX flangers with every possible parameter, even an arp-y step flanger, and even more chorus options. I think even SRX-04 is repackaged. Not from an SR-JV80 card but from older Roland CD-based orchestral samples. But it's really good if you want strings.
The SRX-09 World sounds are just awful. Half the patch names are pretty cringe, and I think maybe the sounds were just aggressively overused in the '90s because to me it all sounds worse than anything on the 1991 Proteus/3 World.
The only SRX card I actually want to use is SRX-05 Supreme Dance, because that was all new sounds for 2002, and it was done by Spectrasonics who did all the best Roland sounds. The Platinum Tracks card is much more dated because it's the repackaged overused '90s cards, so it mostly sounds like a worse version of an E-Mu Planet Phatt. If you want good retro '90s sounds you'd want to get the SR-JV80-06 Dance or M-DC1 Dance which was discontinued for copyright reasons so it wasn't repackaged as an SRX but it's easy to find.
I agree with most of this, but don't get that dance card. It's sucks. I had to return it. You would better with the Platinum Tracks. Putting multiple cards on one was a great idea. It give customers flexible options. I don't know what this dude is talking about. I got a XV5080 with 8 cards. The Interga-7 can only play 4 card or something dumb like that. That sucks!
VST versus Hardware, is it a joke?
Ya, He's pretty much saying he cant go the hardware route which i can understand but its not good to sway other people on it. The hardware versions of the SRX cards will sound warmer richer compared to the same SRX in roland cloud. The sounds might be the same BUT the VST versions will sound thin and cold.
I can hear people even saying to go zenology = Roland cloud which you do get the SRX but again its VSTS and zenology from what i heard sounds thin which has alot of SRX sounds in it and again the hardware would sound fuller.
This things are for collectors...
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Are you collecting or playing?
both of course lol! but i do realize how odd this video can seem as I focus only on the collection aspect
Because SRX series sound worse than SR-JV80 series