looking back on it now, Tana's anger at the lack of security makes perfect sense considering how Christina Grimmie was murdered due to the lack of security at the venue just like a year beforehand by a fan.
Didn't VidCon 2016 ban informal meet and greets bc of the murder of Christina Grimmie year earlier and that's why they asked Tana to leave that year? But yeah in 2017 they fully screwed her over with her being in the featured content but not given the status of featured content creator
I was living in Orlando at the time at the time of her murder. A lot of people forget that that Pulse shooting happened *the very next day.* Grimmie's murder should have been a wake-up call about internet celebrities and security. Unfortunately, a lot of people forgot about her death because it was immediately overshadowed by a record-breaking shooting and hate crime.
@@Savanna-e9m Considering that Pulse should also have been a wake-up call, but clearly wasn't, I unfortunately think that even if that murder hadn't been overshadowed by another violent event, the media and public would still have learned nothing.
Tana’s face being plastered onto the building but not giving Tana any perks and then kicking her out because of the consequences of not giving her perks (backstage access so she could move safely, security, etc) is wild
convinced tana ultimately went with good times because any self respecting event planning company would’ve said, no sorry we cannot successfully pull off that big of an event in such a short time frame, so instead of listening to the professionals…she went with the only company that said they would make it happen…
I knew someone who worked with planning a convention, as soon as the current convention was done, they were planning the next one and getting everything ready. This was not enough time to plan any proper and safe event. A majority of event planners and adjacent companies would turn it down, so it's a bad sign that Good Times took this on.
I still remember when "misnaming" it RedTube was soooo funny but tbh TH-cam ended up being the one stealing PH's "viewed moments" bar and that's like their only good innovation in the last 10 years so common NSF W.
The fact that I’ve heard about the disaster that is this convention many times before, but never heard about how poorly tana was treated by vidcon says a lot
@@cynthiaaranda2095 TH-cam was mean to her 👉🏻👈🏻🥺 yes she probably should have had a space during this specific year to meet fans, but it seems like she was a risk factor.
it was INSANE. she was hanging out with some beauty guru, I fully forget which, and they found the body of someone who OD'd in a public bathroom. I remember she said, essentially, "this is the kind of thing that could only happen to me". (this is all by memory so I might be getting a few details wrong)
@@mycologyqueerit was channon rose and in the video they did not know the guy was dead (idek if he was actually dead) they thought he was just passed out
As they say, If I had a nickel for every time a blond TH-camr/vlogger with a majority child audience who is known for their chaotic energy filmed and posted a dead body, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice...
I am not a Tana Mongeau defender in any way, never engaged much with her content or watched her personally but the fact that she was so big back then and they did not allow her to be a featured creator multiple times is so strange to me 😭 like would they not have made more money making her a featured creator I kinda almost understand why she would want to throw her own one, but obviously that was handled very extremely poorly
@@sari9645Yeah but in that case it’s not very wise to put her all over the advertising & posters n stuff of the official event either, especially if she’s not even gonna be a sponsored creator
I mean considering her controversial reputation and Vid Con wanting to put on a clean image (as well as appease sponsors) it kinda makes sense. Putting up big advertisements with her face on them at the con while not allowing her in is super weird tho
I'm one of those attorneys that work in trademark law! According to the publicly available trademark database a "Michael Weist" applied for the trademark "TanaCon" on March 11, 2019 which was then officially registered a year later on April 7, 2020. A month after that, Tana's attorneys petitioned for cancellation of the mark on several grounds including a prohibition on marks that create a "false designation of origin" between the mark and another person. So the initial application, at least for this iteration of the TanaCon mark didn't happen til about 9 months after the event took place...
What! He lied? I'm watching the video, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but didn't he realise that when it comes to legal documents, he shouldn't publically lie about their contents when there is another public figure with a motive to hire an attourney to disprove him?
Having learnt English almost exclusively through TH-cam and commentary videos, Tanacon is like my Roman Empire. I just remember this moment in YT-history so well, having spent hours of listening to people talking about it. Whenever I hear Anaheim being mentioned today, I think about Tanacon lol. Thank you for re-visiting this clusterfuck of an event!!
in 2017 I spent my uni refund on Vidcon and it was a wild experience 💀 I watched the Paul Brothers beef with Ricegum; I went to Dan & Phil’s panel; and got a goody bag from the Escape the Night cast panel
I remember watching this unfold live and the Shane Dawson Documentary as it dropped! Completely unaware of the baggage Dawson was carrying in the background... 2018 was quite a year to be a TH-cam Viewer! 🤯
@@hospitable_ghost I was also unaware and a new fan of Shane’s at the time his TanaCon documentary dropped!! It’s completely possible! Some people just weren’t ever exposed to him until his “wholesome” rebrand so they had no clue of his horrifying past, myself included!
I remember some freshmen classmates at community college talking about it. I asked them “Wait Shane Dawson-like *that* Shane Dawson?” They only knew him as the cute gay guy who was totally an empath. I was only a few years older than them, but I felt much older 😂
@@hospitable_ghostThe people who had just started watching Shane at the time wouldn’t know about all that though..? And this was when TH-cam saw Shane as the precious empath documentary guy. It’s absolutely believable that they weren’t aware back then.
remembering Idubbbz really makes me think how much actual brainrot i had at this time i really believed this man to be the authority on good yt content 💀
@@marcisdzerve9558 The fact that he made good content should not be an excuse to use those ylurs though. Someone shouldn't be allowed to go around using the n-word just because he makes good points in his videos. Never liked that guy, he always gave me the creeps.
"the dashcon for straight people" you are BRUTAL ❤❤❤ edit: fantastic video. wonderful new setup. my only lament is that i miss catching glimpses of goose snoozing in the bg.
For the longest time I thought it was the name of like a boy group that started on TH-cam but I recently found out that it stands for “Meet And Greet Con” which lowkey blew my mind
I have to be honest your sense of humor is absolutely why you are my favorite youtuber rn. “haunted tyler oakley doll” and “everyone’s favorite cat-loving boi” are both DIABOLICAL work. slid them both into the script so blasé I had to do a double take the first time. and comment on the second right neow because HM? tens across the board! so good!
Back in 2016-19 when I first heard about Tana Mongeau it was either completely through audio, or as read text. Because of this I fully believed that Tana Mojo and Tana Montagues (as in the Captulets and Montagues from Romeo and Juliet) were two completely different, equally problematic people
What still kills me about the PETA stickers is at the time (no idea if they still offer this) you could get those for free from PETA. You just filled out a form on their website and they sent you an envelope full of stickers to put on shit.
i DO remember logan paul's YA dystopia franchise: The Thinning! and i remember this precisely because i was a brony at the time, and the plot of The Thinning (at least according to the ads i got for it) was pretty much exactly the same plot as a very popular my little pony fanfiction: children take a test, and if they fail, they are killed! granted, in the MLP fanfic it was to turn them into rainbows, and i imagine The Thinning had a different use for the dead children, but y'know. same gist
i genuinely really appreciate you not taking the easy route and completely putting all responsibility on michael as some corporate mastermind sabotaging everyone (mostly because i tend to roll my eyes when the entire internet decides they hate a gay man again; it takes a james somerton level of bad for me to engage with that). it's good to see people put actual nuance and research into "drama videos". overall, i think tanacon was just an example of multiple people having too much ego and too much money, and you conveyed that really well. thanks for that.
agree with the point of not just blaming him, but him being gay or not should not determine if he is blamed or not. I know that people tend to pile on the gay man if there is one involved, but, at least in my opinion, that was not the reason here. The reason was that Tana has a big following and he was a nobody that was blamed by her
@@gggthsb yes, i'm aware him being gay isn't the entire reason. it was just a throwaway comment about how people have the tendency to target gay men, exactly like you said. i don't feel like we even disagree here
The irony of you talking about watching the Dr. Phil interview at a mechanics shop when that is exactly how I first saw the interview. I was literally waiting for my car to get out of an oil change and the only channel available at the mechanics shop was playing Dr. Phil.
I love how you don't play devils advocate but you always explain the potential hurt and motivation behind the "bad guy" in situations. It gives a more full picture and while it's absolutely no excuse it's good to remember that they are real people with real feelings. Even if they definitely didn't handle themselves well.
Ashley, your entire spiel about how watching Tana felt like hanging out with the cool kids is so real and I feel extremely personally attacked. OG storytime videos were a huge coping mechanism for in my late teens as someone who had practically no social life in school. I took such comfort in Tana's videos and also Ally Hardesty. She was another one. I LIVED for those storytimes. Lived. Ally has been involved in drama in more recent years, as well but since she didn't blow up like Tana, she is just kind of... forgotten. She does give a bit of mean girl energy. So did Tana. But God I wanted to be them so badly.
Tanacon is such an interesting topic for me becuase I'm not a Tana fan and I recognize she's not faultless in that her name was on this and she chose the company to hire, but in my opinion once she hired this company that said they could pull this event off, they were more or less the liable ones. Every time they said yes to something, they took on the responsibility of safely doing so. My background is in stage production, and our job is to meet with big ideas/creative people and take what they say and come up with a soluton that is safe but as close as possible to what they want (because they're "artists" and not experts - we are). So Tana saying "people love being oppressed, they love waiting outside for something" should have been translated by the professionals in convention planning to mean we want this to feel exclusive and exciting and a bit rough around the edges, maybe a bit reminiscent of 90s hardcore music festivals, and then figured out a way to do that (safely).
congrats on the move girl. 🖤 moving is the bane of my existence but i hope it wasn’t too terrible for you. you’re lookin GOOD and the place is lookin FRESH, so, very happy for you & hope all is well!! 💆🏻♀️💅🏻💁🏻♀️💋
I mean her friend and cohost was also called out from saying horrible and disgusting comments about black people and cop killing black people, and they barely acknowledge it even though Brooke left the internet for a while claiming she was dealing with it
i cant believe i looked up tanacon to look more into it for fun expecting all old af videos and was so happy and surprised to see u just posted this!!! ty for ur impeccable timing 😭
Ashley! You did not go through law school and pass the bar exam to refer to yourself as “just a girl”. Don’t diminish yourself like that! You’re a grown woman with a lot of success
What's crazy is I thought you already made this video. I have come back to your page looking for your Tanacon video TWICE, only to find that there wasn't one. Idk if I dreamed that or what happened exactly. I thought you had just deleted it lol
I listened to hours of content about this fucking event and this is the first time I am hearing how horrible Vidcon have been to her - like everyone else in her life apparently. I really hope she found peace and doing good now.
I was halfway watching this video when I went to lunch. My roommate was also watching this video before his lunch. We got to bond over how much we love hearing you yap
38:41 6 years ago? Are you sure? I remember it happening, it feels like lifetime passed! It's been only 6 years?! 😮 (I guess 2020 was really longer then any other year...)
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tana MONAGEAU is not miss MOJO like top 10 "... " BRO WHAT, IT SOUNDS THE SAME PHONETICALLY!!!!!
I hope someone's mom walked in their room when the sponsorship was passing
If I purchased a book about a scam and it came to me completely blank inside I would simply pass away
Craziest part of the vid. I was shakennnn
Calling Michael a "haunted Tyler Oakley doll" obliterated me ngl
He’s legit just Tyler Oakley in a different font
Gabbie Hanna's solution to everything being to break into song makes the most sense out of anything I've heard about this event.
Or start praying
looking back on it now, Tana's anger at the lack of security makes perfect sense considering how Christina Grimmie was murdered due to the lack of security at the venue just like a year beforehand by a fan.
Didn't VidCon 2016 ban informal meet and greets bc of the murder of Christina Grimmie year earlier and that's why they asked Tana to leave that year? But yeah in 2017 they fully screwed her over with her being in the featured content but not given the status of featured content creator
I was living in Orlando at the time at the time of her murder. A lot of people forget that that Pulse shooting happened *the very next day.* Grimmie's murder should have been a wake-up call about internet celebrities and security. Unfortunately, a lot of people forgot about her death because it was immediately overshadowed by a record-breaking shooting and hate crime.
@@Savanna-e9mI thought her shooting happened long before pulse, I didn’t know it was in the same time period
@@Savanna-e9m Considering that Pulse should also have been a wake-up call, but clearly wasn't, I unfortunately think that even if that murder hadn't been overshadowed by another violent event, the media and public would still have learned nothing.
Sad thing was that instead of making a serious argument, she instead did it herself.
Swell Entertainment's videos are core texts on Tana Con. The girl with the pizza also ordered waters for people around her, making her the true hero
She did say that in the video :)
@@VultureSkins I commented before finishing the video again. oop
core texts is so funny
“As a kid who was born💅, raised💖, and groomed ☝🏻 on the internet” 1:28 WHAT
She's so genuine and real for that
Real
I mean, same girl
she really gets me
Honestly yeah, I needed that she is super real for that
Tana’s face being plastered onto the building but not giving Tana any perks and then kicking her out because of the consequences of not giving her perks (backstage access so she could move safely, security, etc) is wild
convinced tana ultimately went with good times because any self respecting event planning company would’ve said, no sorry we cannot successfully pull off that big of an event in such a short time frame, so instead of listening to the professionals…she went with the only company that said they would make it happen…
I knew someone who worked with planning a convention, as soon as the current convention was done, they were planning the next one and getting everything ready. This was not enough time to plan any proper and safe event. A majority of event planners and adjacent companies would turn it down, so it's a bad sign that Good Times took this on.
Ashley Norton and Mike’s Mic dropping videos on the same day?! WHY YES!!!
omggg ikrrr
Feeling called out because I'm watching this straight after Mike's Mic
@@spongecake569sameee!!
big day for chronically online people who remember random pop culture events (me)
Best day ever
With every single video, I grow more concerned at how Ashley has seemed to make a video on every fixation I have ever had. Is Ashley…. the algorithm?
That’s what the A stands for
And the fact that I googled Lil Dicky not even an hour before TRULY FREAKED ME OUT. As she references him not even 5 min in
She's the physical form of the algorithm.
ashley ur like my chronically online friend who i can’t stop rehashing old pop culture tea with. pls never stop recapping/deep diving
Okay now I need a video about TH-cam Red
Agreed
I still remember when "misnaming" it RedTube was soooo funny but tbh TH-cam ended up being the one stealing PH's "viewed moments" bar and that's like their only good innovation in the last 10 years so common NSF W.
Yes please
The fact that I’ve heard about the disaster that is this convention many times before, but never heard about how poorly tana was treated by vidcon says a lot
Same 😭
Totally makes up for it all.
wait how tho
@@cynthiaaranda2095 TH-cam was mean to her 👉🏻👈🏻🥺 yes she probably should have had a space during this specific year to meet fans, but it seems like she was a risk factor.
@@cynthiaaranda2095 it doesn’t lol, she still scammed a few thousand people
Tana ALSO filmed and posted a dead body??? How many TH-camrs have done this???
it was INSANE. she was hanging out with some beauty guru, I fully forget which, and they found the body of someone who OD'd in a public bathroom. I remember she said, essentially, "this is the kind of thing that could only happen to me". (this is all by memory so I might be getting a few details wrong)
@@mycologyqueerit was channon rose and in the video they did not know the guy was dead (idek if he was actually dead) they thought he was just passed out
I remember there being a video of a deaf Guy showing Off his dead grandmother, from my memory its still up on TH-cam.
As they say, If I had a nickel for every time a blond TH-camr/vlogger with a majority child audience who is known for their chaotic energy filmed and posted a dead body, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice...
@@mycologyqueer …. I’m speechless but also unsurprised
I am not a Tana Mongeau defender in any way, never engaged much with her content or watched her personally but the fact that she was so big back then and they did not allow her to be a featured creator multiple times is so strange to me 😭 like would they not have made more money making her a featured creator I kinda almost understand why she would want to throw her own one, but obviously that was handled very extremely poorly
I presume cause she was so controversial that vidcon didn’t want to risk its own sponsors
One year she was even HEAVILY advertised on huge Escape the Night billboards plastered all over the venue and they didn’t make her a featured creator.
@@sari9645Yeah but in that case it’s not very wise to put her all over the advertising & posters n stuff of the official event either, especially if she’s not even gonna be a sponsored creator
I mean considering her controversial reputation and Vid Con wanting to put on a clean image (as well as appease sponsors) it kinda makes sense. Putting up big advertisements with her face on them at the con while not allowing her in is super weird tho
@@KingOfGaymes it doesn’t actually make ANY SENSE in that case alone 🤷🏼♂️
ARE WE NOT GONNA TALK ABOUT THE BLANK BOOK. was that a jawdropper ending to only me. i’m bummed i didn’t think of making money like that years ago.
"haunted tyler oakley doll"
HELP the pineapple I was eating is now in my sinus cavity
I'm one of those attorneys that work in trademark law! According to the publicly available trademark database a "Michael Weist" applied for the trademark "TanaCon" on March 11, 2019 which was then officially registered a year later on April 7, 2020. A month after that, Tana's attorneys petitioned for cancellation of the mark on several grounds including a prohibition on marks that create a "false designation of origin" between the mark and another person. So the initial application, at least for this iteration of the TanaCon mark didn't happen til about 9 months after the event took place...
What! He lied? I'm watching the video, I guess I shouldn't be surprised, but didn't he realise that when it comes to legal documents, he shouldn't publically lie about their contents when there is another public figure with a motive to hire an attourney to disprove him?
the blank book is the funniest thing i have ever seen
Having learnt English almost exclusively through TH-cam and commentary videos, Tanacon is like my Roman Empire. I just remember this moment in YT-history so well, having spent hours of listening to people talking about it. Whenever I hear Anaheim being mentioned today, I think about Tanacon lol. Thank you for re-visiting this clusterfuck of an event!!
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@@1-eye-willyhey babe, maybe stop being so lame❤️ hope that helps :)
@@1-eye-willywhat does this even mean
in 2017 I spent my uni refund on Vidcon and it was a wild experience 💀 I watched the Paul Brothers beef with Ricegum; I went to Dan & Phil’s panel; and got a goody bag from the Escape the Night cast panel
saving this video as a little treat for when i finish doing schoolwork
Blessing you for good grades ❤
I remember watching this unfold live and the Shane Dawson Documentary as it dropped! Completely unaware of the baggage Dawson was carrying in the background... 2018 was quite a year to be a TH-cam Viewer! 🤯
"Completely unaware"...no one believes that, babe.
@@hospitable_ghostreal wasn’t it already out that he master basted to his cat
@@hospitable_ghost I was also unaware and a new fan of Shane’s at the time his TanaCon documentary dropped!! It’s completely possible! Some people just weren’t ever exposed to him until his “wholesome” rebrand so they had no clue of his horrifying past, myself included!
I remember some freshmen classmates at community college talking about it. I asked them “Wait Shane Dawson-like *that* Shane Dawson?” They only knew him as the cute gay guy who was totally an empath.
I was only a few years older than them, but I felt much older 😂
@@hospitable_ghostThe people who had just started watching Shane at the time wouldn’t know about all that though..? And this was when TH-cam saw Shane as the precious empath documentary guy. It’s absolutely believable that they weren’t aware back then.
Can't believe TH-cam hid this from me for 4 minutes
Was literally rewatching Swell's video on this the other day being like wow it was six years ago? You read my mind
remembering Idubbbz really makes me think how much actual brainrot i had at this time i really believed this man to be the authority on good yt content 💀
It’s so weird remembering there was a time when a huge creator constantly said slurs and people were just like “Yep that’s his thing” 💀
Even Idubbz would agree with you 😂
Tbf, most of his content cop episodes were actually valid
@@marcisdzerve9558 The fact that he made good content should not be an excuse to use those ylurs though. Someone shouldn't be allowed to go around using the n-word just because he makes good points in his videos. Never liked that guy, he always gave me the creeps.
@@gggthsb not the point I was making, tho
"the dashcon for straight people" you are BRUTAL ❤❤❤
edit: fantastic video. wonderful new setup. my only lament is that i miss catching glimpses of goose snoozing in the bg.
it’s not even funny but ok
@@LexFerraro wow you’re so cool and fun for saying that
@@LexFerraro don’t be a buzzkill dude
@@LexFerrarothey said brutal not funny
I miss seeing goose 😢 I would make my boyfriend back up the video so we could see goose shifting lol
Tanacon feels like it happened 10 years ago.
No, the fact that it was 6 years ago feels like it's way to long ago, but it also feels like it should be ancient history
I was almost gonna raw dog my study session, thank you girly, we salute you
i just made a bunch of soft pretzel bites and got way too high this is the best thing you possibly could have uploaded
Omfg me I'm stoned making cheesy breadsticks and watching this videooo
My jaw literally dropped when you showed the book omg
Also I'm obsessed with the thing on your windowsill - not sure what it actually is, but I cant stop seeing it as a guinea pig wearing a small coat
Girl I was in Anaheim during Tanacon performing at Disney and it was like nearly 100 degrees that day. It was CRAZYYYY
was just telling my friend today how you have the type of personality where i would hear u talk about anything for hours
“I was born, raised, and groomed on the internet” Ashley pls 😭
The Bell has rung class! Please take your seats.
sorry I'm late, the volleyball teacher thought the chicken nugget flavored vape in the bathroom was mine but it was her daughter's
Ashley I NEED you to make a video on magcon. I’ve been hearing magcon referenced since around 2018 and I STILL don’t actually understand what it was
Meanwhile I’ve never heard of it pls Ashley educate the masses
For the longest time I thought it was the name of like a boy group that started on TH-cam but I recently found out that it stands for “Meet And Greet Con” which lowkey blew my mind
she talked about magcon in her fever dream youtube tours video!
casey aonso has a pretty good video on it, she talks about a lot of similar topics so you might like her!
I was there, and I don't know what happened
I have to be honest your sense of humor is absolutely why you are my favorite youtuber rn. “haunted tyler oakley doll” and “everyone’s favorite cat-loving boi” are both DIABOLICAL work. slid them both into the script so blasé I had to do a double take the first time. and comment on the second right neow because HM? tens across the board! so good!
Back in 2016-19 when I first heard about Tana Mongeau it was either completely through audio, or as read text. Because of this I fully believed that Tana Mojo and Tana Montagues (as in the Captulets and Montagues from Romeo and Juliet) were two completely different, equally problematic people
That’s hilarious 😂
the miles edgeworth eternally in the background is actually driving me insane this setup is a major improvement actually
Ashley i needdddd a magcon video that was the craziest, best time of my life
she talked about magcon in her fever dream youtube tours video!
looooove you retelling these stories that everyone who's chronically online know, but with some nuance to discussions that never had that
Oooh the silence right after she said "cody ko" 💀💀
What still kills me about the PETA stickers is at the time (no idea if they still offer this) you could get those for free from PETA. You just filled out a form on their website and they sent you an envelope full of stickers to put on shit.
i DO remember logan paul's YA dystopia franchise: The Thinning! and i remember this precisely because i was a brony at the time, and the plot of The Thinning (at least according to the ads i got for it) was pretty much exactly the same plot as a very popular my little pony fanfiction: children take a test, and if they fail, they are killed! granted, in the MLP fanfic it was to turn them into rainbows, and i imagine The Thinning had a different use for the dead children, but y'know. same gist
I love it when I open TH-cam and it immediately recommends me something perfect
I was *not* prepared for the book segment
The channel loyalty is strong with this one because I've heard about this so many times, but it's you so I wanna watch like I never have.❤😂
Every video you post is a new topic I didn't need a deep dive on until I NEEDED it
Let’s freaking go thank you Ashley 😭☝🏼
i genuinely really appreciate you not taking the easy route and completely putting all responsibility on michael as some corporate mastermind sabotaging everyone (mostly because i tend to roll my eyes when the entire internet decides they hate a gay man again; it takes a james somerton level of bad for me to engage with that). it's good to see people put actual nuance and research into "drama videos". overall, i think tanacon was just an example of multiple people having too much ego and too much money, and you conveyed that really well. thanks for that.
agree with the point of not just blaming him, but him being gay or not should not determine if he is blamed or not. I know that people tend to pile on the gay man if there is one involved, but, at least in my opinion, that was not the reason here. The reason was that Tana has a big following and he was a nobody that was blamed by her
@@gggthsb yes, i'm aware him being gay isn't the entire reason. it was just a throwaway comment about how people have the tendency to target gay men, exactly like you said. i don't feel like we even disagree here
Tanacon for me personally serves as the painful reminder that I was into Idubbbz at this time. Hope that someday I will be forgiven for my sins 🤟😔
At least idubbbz himself seems to be pretty remorseful about it. But ya, agreed. Im like did i ever agree with his takes they were always awful
I feel like everyone who took sides in this beef had awful takes to be fair 😅
dude im still confused how i managed to like him, i know i was a teen but youtube was rough 😅
It's ok, my friend. I was into Shane
Oof. Partners in horrible taste ❤ @@ambarcastaneda4763
oh we are bringing out the iPad for this one
If you like disasters, you should look into blue ridge rock fest 2023. I barely survived and that’s only half a joke.
The irony of you talking about watching the Dr. Phil interview at a mechanics shop when that is exactly how I first saw the interview. I was literally waiting for my car to get out of an oil change and the only channel available at the mechanics shop was playing Dr. Phil.
Thanks Ashley for saving me from my anxiety spiral
I swear you always drop at the perfect time 🙏🏻
I never know what I need, but Ashley knows. She always knows.
43:30 “…but are we gonna?” In Tana voice became a staple of how me and my boyfriend talk to each other ever since we first saw that clip 😂
I love how you don't play devils advocate but you always explain the potential hurt and motivation behind the "bad guy" in situations. It gives a more full picture and while it's absolutely no excuse it's good to remember that they are real people with real feelings. Even if they definitely didn't handle themselves well.
The fact that I'm glued to the screen for a video about people and events I have never heard or cared about
8:03 i got a ted cruz ad right after gabbie hanna and the whiplashed from that was crazy
Great video, great new set up, but crushed there's no chance of Goose sightings :(
ashley your new filming room looks Exactly like the maggie rogers “heard it in a past life” album cover (i can’t unsee it)
Ashley, your entire spiel about how watching Tana felt like hanging out with the cool kids is so real and I feel extremely personally attacked. OG storytime videos were a huge coping mechanism for in my late teens as someone who had practically no social life in school. I took such comfort in Tana's videos and also Ally Hardesty. She was another one. I LIVED for those storytimes. Lived. Ally has been involved in drama in more recent years, as well but since she didn't blow up like Tana, she is just kind of... forgotten. She does give a bit of mean girl energy. So did Tana. But God I wanted to be them so badly.
Tanacon is such an interesting topic for me becuase I'm not a Tana fan and I recognize she's not faultless in that her name was on this and she chose the company to hire, but in my opinion once she hired this company that said they could pull this event off, they were more or less the liable ones. Every time they said yes to something, they took on the responsibility of safely doing so. My background is in stage production, and our job is to meet with big ideas/creative people and take what they say and come up with a soluton that is safe but as close as possible to what they want (because they're "artists" and not experts - we are). So Tana saying "people love being oppressed, they love waiting outside for something" should have been translated by the professionals in convention planning to mean we want this to feel exclusive and exciting and a bit rough around the edges, maybe a bit reminiscent of 90s hardcore music festivals, and then figured out a way to do that (safely).
Oh I am SO sat
I was not prepared for the accompanying picture for the description "haunted Tyler Oakley doll." Truly spot on
I spot an icon in the comments! Love your videos!
Tanacon is the DEFINITION of MESSY
congrats on the move girl. 🖤 moving is the bane of my existence but i hope it wasn’t too terrible for you. you’re lookin GOOD and the place is lookin FRESH, so, very happy for you & hope all is well!! 💆🏻♀️💅🏻💁🏻♀️💋
i have watched countless tanacon vids but an ashley norton one is exactly what i needed to scratch the itch in my brain
I’m obsessed with the irony of Tana having a podcast called “Canceled” and at the same time not being able to deal with her most recent cancelation
She’s always been terrible and reactive tbf, could never take a bit of criticism without crying about it 🙄
I mean her friend and cohost was also called out from saying horrible and disgusting comments about black people and cop killing black people, and they barely acknowledge it even though Brooke left the internet for a while claiming she was dealing with it
I admit found this fare more interesting than I thought I would. The whole thing makes far more sense now that it has in other videos on it.
I forgot how funny that Segway thing was 😭
Nothing makes me feel older than the fact that I attended 2014 VidCon as a legal adult.
now i have something to listen to while i pretend to do my job, thanks ashley!!
You even recreated the poster, Ashley you’re an icon
ASHLEY PLEASEEE DO A VID ON THE LOGAN PAUL DYSTOPIAN FRANCHISE IVE LITERALLY NEVER HEARD OR IT (or just a vid on logang in general)
Calling Michael Weist "haunted Tyler Oakley doll" SENT ME so hard I had to go back and replay it lmao
the segway is absolutely killing me
I do think VidCon deserved backlash for this. They endangered Tana despite being willing to use her to get her fans business.
love how you did a video on such important lore!! I even watch your videos on niche stuff that we can’t relate to, but I especially love when I can!!!
i was NOT expecting that ad
you being a danny, drew and kurtis fan is soooo real
i cant believe i looked up tanacon to look more into it for fun expecting all old af videos and was so happy and surprised to see u just posted this!!! ty for ur impeccable timing 😭
im gonna start crying tears of joy every time u upload
Goated thumbnail honestly😊
Ashley! You did not go through law school and pass the bar exam to refer to yourself as “just a girl”. Don’t diminish yourself like that! You’re a grown woman with a lot of success
The way I got so excited when I saw this in my notifications 😭
What's crazy is I thought you already made this video. I have come back to your page looking for your Tanacon video TWICE, only to find that there wasn't one. Idk if I dreamed that or what happened exactly. I thought you had just deleted it lol
I listened to hours of content about this fucking event and this is the first time I am hearing how horrible Vidcon have been to her - like everyone else in her life apparently. I really hope she found peace and doing good now.
I was halfway watching this video when I went to lunch. My roommate was also watching this video before his lunch. We got to bond over how much we love hearing you yap
I thank god everyday that it is no longer 2018
I like the new background, especially the blue. I knew nothing about Tana or any of this but very much enjoyed.
I remember this all happening like it was yesterday, but hearing that it was about 5 years ago is so shocking because it felt so recent
haunted tyler oakley doll is WILDDD
38:41 6 years ago? Are you sure? I remember it happening, it feels like lifetime passed! It's been only 6 years?! 😮 (I guess 2020 was really longer then any other year...)
Babes!! My life is falling apart and I’ve also been moving so happy you posted this is my reprieve
I love this kind of necro posting, I'm always for listening to internet lore
i am truly obsessed with tanacon and I'm so happy to see you cover it ❤