HONDA CBR 650R // 4 Things I Hate About It!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- Hi all, in today's video I am talking about the things I don't like about my 2019 Honda CBR 650R. I will make a follow-up video on things I DO like about it so stay tuned and turn on those notifications!
In the video, I am trying a new style. More so than my classic videos of riding, I attempted making an informative one with text. Please do let me know what you think of it in the comments as it will allow me to have an idea of what I should and should not do! Thank you!
*DISCLAIMER* All roads are closed and all vehicles are edited with CGI
Bike: HONDA CBR650R
Exhaust: MIVV MK3 Full System
About the bad seating position, I own a 650 r for almost 2 years now and also noticed how painful my wrists get after a longer drive. Then I found out that when originally assembling, the dealership put the levers too horizontal, that resulted in me having to swivel my wrist into an uncomfortable position when going full throttle. I fixed it easily by just lowering the levers to face more downward, worked like a charm.
I am having issues with my right hand and wrist when riding this bike for a while. I'd really appreciate more information on what you did. Thank you
@@rwalton159 loosen (then tighten back once youre done) the brake/clutch levers to lower them so that when your fingers are resting on them (not using) its in a more agronomical line with your wrist.
E-clutch😊
hi, first nice video and love the exhaust sound.
I´m 1.85cm and i have no problem in my arms/wrists. Sorry to disagree but the only thing i hated about this bike was the dragon tail that i have solved by buying another on Aliexpress by 40 euros. Other than that, the only thing i miss on this bike is more 15HP, this bike deserved 105hp. Don´t forget that this bike is not a supersport, it´s a sport-touring so thats why the rear is slightly lower but nothing special to be honest, still think this bike is absolutly gorgeous! keep posting! ride safe!
Is the aliexpress “quality” good enough? Im gonna buy the same rear seat cowl but I’m kinda sceptic about the quality of the 70-80 euro ones. But I don’t wanna spend 220 euros on a piece of plastic that’s from an original Honda dealer. So overpriced jesus christ.
@@stfu6397 from what I heard the quality is acceptable BUT on the red model it seems the colors don’t match. Aliexpress seat has a darker red. On the black model it seems it works perfectly.
@@youtubeon2wheels thanks for the reply. I have a 2021 black one so Im just gonna buy that one then. Can’t be asked to buy a 220 euro piece of plastic holy shit. :-)
I'm really not sure why you're having issues with being uncomfortable on the bike, as it is known for being a very comfortable bike for commuting with. I went for a 7 hour ride on my 650R and was completely fine, no pain in the wrists at all. Also, the bike has technically existed alongside the 600RR for years as the 650F, this is just the updated to it, which is why this isn't at all a replacement for the 600RR.
As much as I wish it did, this bike does not and was not meant to compete with bikes like the R6, RS660, ZX6 etc. This bike competes more with the R7, SV650, Ninja 650 and such.
Otherwise, I do completely understand your other points, and enjoyed the video! Looking forward to watching more of your videos.
Hi and thanks for the comment! So for your point related to the uncomfortableness, that was solved. The reason for that was in the UK the speed limit is heavily enforced and I find myself in pain when sitting stiffly in the same position for long periods of time (>30 mintues), but recently on my trip to Turkey, I had 2 journeys that lasted 6 hours~ and I didnt feel the same pain at all! The difference was in Turkey there is no enforced speed limit so I am free to ride as i wish, and that led to different speeds and i felt zero pain. Although I cannot lie after 5 hours my arse did start to ache haha! Other than that i find the issue to be sitting in the same position for extended periods of time.
As for the class of the bike, yes I agree that its not meant to compete with 600cc SS bikes. I just wish they upped the 500r to a morepowerful state to take the place of the er6 r7 sv650 class, and have the 650r compete with the SS class. Although I have found the 650r doesnt lack that much behind those bikes, as within the city it is more than enough and can compete extremely well with bigger bikes.
Thank you for your comment as i really appreciated it!
I enjoy the format! It is different from other channels and I think you should continue it. Fun content thank you!
Hey thank you so much! I may try a video where I talk but I wouldn't want to if people enjoy this more. I'll continue this now thank you lots for the feedback!
Fell in love with mine from the first ride. Still deciding on an exhaust and other adjustments I want to make. I may have to check out this cbr1000 tail swap that people are mentioning
In my next video I will showcase it! Very happy with the tail to say the least.
Have an akro pipe. Full swapp, more power but $$$$
Thanks for the video, real helpful when trying to decide which bike to buy at home. 👌🏻
Loved the video pure sound of the bike no talking blabbing like other people on TH-cam subscribed
Thanks man! appreciate the feedback alot!
You can custom the tail by replacing it with cbr1000rr rear set. Many owners in my country have done that and it looks much better.
Really?! Do you know where I can get more info on this? Also which country are you from if you dont mind me asking?
@@cuddlycocaroach hi again mate. We spoke a few weeks back aha. The one thing i hate about the 650r is also the stupid tail. A company called toei designs on facebook make amazing tails. Like supersport cowls for it. Some with new tail lights. That’s the first thing i’m buying for mine. Then once that’s on lower the clip ons 2 inch apparently and its way better.
@@christianc397 Just had a look at them and sent em a message, and they seem pretty neat. Indonesians always have pages like these for different bikes 😂 If I can get a fireblade tail on a 650r that would look amazing ngl. Where do you get info on how to lower the clips?
@@cuddlycocaroach class mate. Takes a few weeks for shipping apparently but jheeez they look worth it. Similar price as the owm cowl too😂 also, in the 650r group on fb i’ve seen dozens of people say if u want more of a sport bike feel u can either lower the clip ons 2 inches down the forks, or what looks better is to get some oem cbr 600rr clip ons for quite cheap and put them on. Again, i haven’t done this myself as i dont have one yet haha but i’m going to be😂
@@christianc397 I'll have to look into it. I wouldn't want to risk toying with the handling of the bike but do want to change the looks. Also, when I had my R3 I remember an indonesian insta page selling R1 mods for the R3. The tail, tank, headlights. And not for the new R3 the previous one! Was shocked 😂
I add 3” bar risers and it made a huge difference in wrist impact. I have 32/33 shirt arm length so short
Who has the bar risers I have been looking for them from day one ?
Also was there any issues with cables and hydraulic lines being short on the risers??
Great video! Do you recommend this for someone who is 1,89 m ( almost 6’3)?
Comparison with the R6 would be amazing!
Will do!
Completely different bikes. R6 is a racing bike, this one is a sport-touring. Two different options for different riders. You want speed? Go for the R6. You want everything else? Go for the CBR 🙂 simple as that.
@@youtubeon2wheels got the CBR as first bike 2 months ago and loving it 🤙🏼 Still don‘t have the opportunity to ride both unrestricted here that‘s why I asked for the comparison 😄
@@pietschockemoehle trust me you will love it more day by day. Mine has now 2000kms. I have push it to 248kms and it can go a little more. What I am doing now is change exhaust, air filter and remap the ecu. It gives 4hp but above all it optimizes the performance. You reach top speed much faster. This is a great bike all and all.
Great video made! I also own a cbr650 for 2 years.
The only thing I disagree and I want to make it clear is that the cbr650r is not the bike to compare with 600. cbr650r is not a super sport, and it's barely a "sport" class bike. If anything is more like sport touring with uncomfortable seating position to taller people. Now, I have taken mine to the HW, city, canyon, rain and track. It gets the job done, it taught me how to ride, and now I grew out of it. The cbr650r is the bike that will get you ready for 600 or liter bike, but expect down the road you will get bored with it.
Rode mine brand new from the dealership in Oslo Norway straight to Frankfurt 🇩🇪😎 Sore af but it was surprisingly comfortable.
the video was enjoyable, and i do want a video with comparisons
Thanks for the grat content
Thank you! I did a comparison with the MT07 if you're intrested!
With No.3 I agree 100%!!
Cool video I would’ve liked to know how tall are you & if that has anything to do with the uncomfortable seating. As I am 5”5 & thinking about purchasing one?
Hi, my height is around 5'9 and it's not due to height as the motorcycle has a much more relaxed seating position. My R6 has an aggressive seating position and is much better. I've also realised that the uncomfortable seating was a complete different issue, It's because I would ride at the same speed for long periods of time (>1 hour). But recently in Turkey, I rode 6 hours going fast/slow at variable speeds, not the same speed and had 0 pain other than my butt hurting! haha. Hope this help!
@@cuddlycocaroach Gotcha! Yes it did help because every video I’ve watched on the CBR650 you were the only that didn’t like the seating position. Thanks for the clarification.
@@Johnelilopez Thats great! glad to help ahah
Nice video! Love the r6 comparison idea
Ah, I miss my matt black 650r. Came here for some memories and realised your from southampton, same as me.
Ah nice! Shame you don't have it anymore! Amazing bike
Great video. What nods have you done to yours. Obviously you can see the different screen and hear an enhanced engine note (exhaust type?). Looking forward to hearing more. 👍😎🇦🇺
Hey! My exhaust is a MIVV MK3 Full System exhaust and yes, it sounds absolutely amazing and I couldn't be happier with it. The windscreen is different, yes but I can't remember the exact name, I'll have to go through my boxes and find out! I Will comment when I find it. Thank you for the feedback!
@@cuddlycocaroach Thanks. DB killer in or out?
@@marcusgeorge1825 Out/ Didn't come with one!
Hello. I am a fan of your channel as well as the cool bike you have. I am planning to buy the same bike. Question is, when you installed the mivv full exhaust system, did you have to tune the ECU?
Hey! Thanks for the feedback really means a lot! And no, I didn't flash the ECU just yet. I was planning to but I am going to get a tail mod first and then hopefully get an ECU flash!
Bike sounds wicked, what exhaust is that? Looking to pick one of these up but they are in short supply here in the states
Hey! Its a MIVV MK3 exhaust. I absolutely love it. Ah that doesn't sound too good! Maybe you can ask the dealership to bring one in from somewhere else in the country? Wish you the best of luck finding one. Certainly worth it
It took 3 months for mine to arrive after my down payment.
@@SpaceGoatCoastToCoast Ouf! At least you got yours!
Yeah I've only seen one in person (my own) I think they were 4 total in NY between the 19 & 20s haven't seen a 21 at all
Currently riding r3...what do u suggest nxt..u own r3 as well, so u would b better person to answer...thank u
How long have you ridden the R3? is it over 20k km? If so, a XJ6, Ducati 696, ER6 can be great!
is there handlebar vibration past 6k rpm? maybe that is the cause of your fatigue
I don't think you understand this bike, it's not meat to compete with super sports, it's a less powerful and more friendly sport bike with different functions
I know and that's the problem. They took the 600rr and gave us this. It has amazing potential, but they just decided to go this route, which is disappointing.
@@cuddlycocaroach they brought it back in Japan and as an ex gsrx 600 rider this cbr is far better on insurance vs supersports so it is nice
@@radicalkonrad765 I own an r6 along with this and would prefer this any day of the week, only issue is they could've made it much better/sportier. I had to get 3rd party mods to make it a 'racing' bike. Love it either way but could've been better ahah
@@cuddlycocaroach true dat, I prefer a full supersport as a daily.......mainly because I ride irresponsibly
I have the same bike as you (2021), but after 30min riding my back and wrist getting pain, when im looking at forums, TH-cam everbody says that this bike is very comfortable. Is there an aftermarket clip ons for this problem or anything else for more comfortable riding? Thx
The reason for my personal pain on my motorcycle was that in the UK the speed limit is heavily enforced and I find myself in pain when sitting stiffly in the same position for long periods of time (>30 mintues), but recently on my trip to Turkey, I had 2 journeys that lasted 6 hours~ and I didnt feel the same pain at all! The difference was in Turkey there is no enforced speed limit so I am free to ride as i wish, and that led to different speeds and i felt zero pain. Although I cannot lie after 5 hours my arse did start to ache haha! Other than that i find the issue to be sitting in the same position for extended periods of time. If you cant understand this comment, soyle turkceye cevirebilirim!
Honda has made a Euro5 CBR600RR 21/22 model. It’s being sold in Australia right now, for some reason they aren’t taking to the UK. Plus it sells for 2.5 times the amount of the CBR650R.
Yeah I agree I have had the bike for 2
Months as well. You would think the couch seat would be comfy but your legs don't grip the tank and yeah your wrist melts off in 30 mins. At least there is the huge has tank to lay on!!! My last two bikes were gxsR and R6 I enjoyed the HP and the looks better.
The HP does make a difference but personally I would have the CBR over the R6 because within the city you cant really make the bike scream, at least not in the UK. The wrist issue is really getting on my nerves on long rides but lets see what the future holds!
@@cuddlycocaroach how tall are you? I'm not finding much of an issue with weight on my wrists and I've done 2 450 mile trips in the last 2 weeks on mine, my issues have mainly been the seat to peg distance and a lack of cruise control (lol) also how much was that exhaust? It sounds dope
You guys need more training. I started with 1 hour commutes on a Yamaha R125 then Suzuki GSX-R600, now on the 650R and it's like sitting on a comfy sofa compared to the previous 2 🤣
Can you not loosen the tripletree clamps, and let the forks slide up through the clamps?
hey bro Id like to ask how do you pass the vehicle inspections when the full exhaust system is not homologized for street use? In my country every aftermarket part has to have homologization so you can put it on the bike. Isnt it like that in your country aswell? Also did you remap the bike after installing the full system or is that not needed? Thanks for the answer
It is how the USA operates. It lets each state operate independently to an extent. Comes to emissions that’s variable per state to state. Ie. NJ real strict they even have an inspection every year. And then Florida complete opposite. You can do what you want no rules or regulations on it.
Any reason why you ride with the traction control off? Just wondering. Also, where did you get your windscreen?
My windscreen came when I bought the bike so I don't know im afraid. Don't like it when it cuts gas when either the front end comes up, or when the rear slips. I like to have control and have some fun!
Obviously you prefer the sports bike look based on the bikes you have or had but maybe your riding style would be more suited to a mt09/xsr900?
I 100% agree, but I just love racing bikes. If I had to go naked, I would get either a streetfighter/z900/tuono. I just dont like the MT series' cornering capabilities. The MT09 is an amazing bike but its been designed to wheelie more than handle corners...
The green bike lane is for bicycles, not motorcycles. Hope you get a ticket!
I was looking on forums and videos, this is the first one someone talked aboit the tail being to low, I hate that, the bike is awesome but they fu**edup the tail so bad
Yes they really did. I hated it so i changed it! I will be uploading the new tail this week in a video!
I’m stuck between getting this or the Yamaha MT-07 for my next bike, what would you recommend? Budget isn’t an issue
How long have you been riding for? and also what is your previous bike? Would gladly like to help!
@@cuddlycocaroach this will be my first bike, got my MOD1 next month! Your probably thinking I’m making a mistake going for a newish bike for my first, but I’m quite sensible so thought why not! I do like the look of the CBR650R but have heard good things about the MT-07 too.
@@y1m1tf You asked for my opinion on bikes not your choices so don't worry I don't judge. I think the cbr650r would be a better choice simply because when I was 18 and had a 4 cylinder bike it would make heads turn and that was a great feeling. MT-07 is a brilliant bike but isn't open to learners. It can't corner well and doesnt have good handling. It was pretty much made to be a wheelie machine and thats it. with the CBR you can learn to corner, ride and wheelies as well on top if you really want to. If you do choose the MT it is an amazing bike as well!
@@cuddlycocaroach just what I wanted to hear thanks a lot bro, you on social media by any chance ? I’ve already been down to the local Honda showroom near me and sat on the bike, as you say you can tell it will definitely turn more heads than the MT-07.
@@y1m1tf Hey im currently taking my msf course this weekend and I also plan on buying a cbr650r as my first bike
Ironic that you wish for a higher performance Honda SS and a racier look, but you cry about your wrists hurting on the relaxed ergos of a street bike. 😂
Yes its due to the tank, not the placement of the handlebars. I have an r6 and dont have that problem so pipe down buddy. Its to due with not being able to grip the tank as well as you can with other bikes thus putting more pressure on your wrists. That my take on it. No need to hate
Hi there,
Love the video, just wanted to know your audio setup!
Hey, I have a purple panda mic in my helmet by the cheek pads. The cable goes above the top pads around and comes out on the side to my gopro adapter. Hope this helps!
I’m a new rider, why do you undertake everything on the left?
So i'm an aggressive rider, therefore i under/overtake depending on the situation that i analyze beforehand. If its safe to do so i go through with it to get past the vehicle in front of me. I wouldn't advise it to a new learner though. Thank you for the reply!
Damm I didn't even know they stopped making the 600RR, they never stopped in North America
Yeah, its because of the regulations. NA doesn't have those so they were fine. Rumour is out that they're releasing an updated one next year that will fit the regulations, but will almost certainly mean loss in power...
any diffrence from stock to full system exhaust? I have the same bike and if u go a ride with rs660 honda is more powerful u can check it out
The sound is much more different and awareness of other vehicles. As for performance in the high revs I can feel a bit of a change even without an ECU Flash.
@@cuddlycocaroach thanks brother :)stay safe
Do you use tank grips?
Yes I do! Its not that I can't grip it, its that when I do, I dont have the feeling of the bike's control being between my legs as I do with other bikes. Weird
You are not suppose to put any weight on the handle bars with your hands. They are there for steering the bike, not to hold you up. If you have to use your hands to hold your body up you need to do some exercises to strengthen your core muscles.
Yes that is what I said in my video. More so then core, its legs. The core required for riding is minimal in most bikes and its more leg support, handling the bike with your legs, but on this it feels weird and you have to use your wrists. Also, on a bike like the R6 you can't use your core to stay upright as that would kill you after a couple minutes hahaha
@@cuddlycocaroach Proper seating on that bike is a slight lean forward, elbows bent to be parallel with the handle bars. No bodyweight should on the bars of any motorcycle. Your legs keep you from going side to side. Or while leaning to adjust the way you are seated on the bike. But they do not control the angle of the torso. That is all in the lower back and abs (The core). I think the tank on the 650r is wider than the r6. So you may be squeezing it too hard. Idk. The only advice I can give is to follow the proper seating position I described above. Do not put any weight on the bars, then see what muscles start to burn. Lemme know if this helped. Have a good one.
How did you like the Gsxr-r 125?
Loved it. Was my first bike, and it has a special spot for me. So many memories with it
This bike not suit for you , you should get kawasaki H2r or fireblade , for me this is the big bike suit for middle class beginners who wants upgraded from lower class ,, simple is that Bro ,,
i guess the CB650R would fit for you. since you've said it that 40-50 mins. your wrist start to have pain and cramps.. Racing big bikes are for race tracks not for streets and like CB650R would be purely fit and relax using for daily and long riding because it deliver the relax and comfort riding position.
I wouldn't consider this a track bike at all, I have one and the position is way less committed than say, a zx6r or any other 600 or 1000 sport bike. This feels much more like a vfr
I'm too scared to ride mine without traction control off
What are you scared of exactly? I can give advice if you'd like if you give me details!
There is a new 600RR
74 in a 40? Really?
Honda is like 125cm3 bikes hah so smal
What's it top speed in mph?
Mine does 154
I've not tested it yet, but I manage to get to 140 without struggle. In Turkey I could test the top speed anytime but in the UK cameras kind of don't allow you :/
@@cuddlycocaroach oh im turkish yeah turkey is cool with all that stuff
@@kemalyesil7565 Memnun oldum!
@@cuddlycocaroach aa turksun cok iyi bendede ayni motor var 3 yakin arkadasimdada ayni motor north london hep geziyoruz
6:40 yo, is that a supra?!
I think so! 😂
No, dude, Honda didn't make a mistake discontiuing the 600RR. 600RR was a joke, from 2003 till 2020 has the same output, 116 HP. Let's remember how Kawasaki ZX6R has 118 HP and Yamaha R6 has 120 HP in 2002.
Sorry to dissapoint you but that bike is a joke, like any other Honda bikes. Brakes are very weak, suspension very very bad and the electrichal wiring is a nightmare.
Get ridd of that piece of shit and buy a real bike.