Pioneer KRP-500M Nobel Dinner Pure Art!
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"Colours are so pure, they gush with their own emotions.”
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Thats exactly what you get with the Kuros and most with the super accurate 500M.
This is probably the best representation of how good the picture is on the 500M.
This is real colors no poor flat LED light based colors as you get on TVs today.
Enjoy because this picture quality will never come back.
Pioneer
"Colours are so pure, they gush with their own emotions.”
www.thevideoalchemists.com/pioneer-kuro/
Thats exactly what you get with the Kuros and most with the super accurate 500M.
This is probably the best representation i have got of how good the picture is on the 500M.
This is real colors no poor flat LED light based colors as you get on TVs today.
Enjoy because this picture quality will never come back.
"Enjoy because this picture quality will never come back."
Whats stopping modern TV's to not be able to match the picture quality performance of the SDR image? Excuse my lack of knowledge of plasmas. I think modern can hit 100% rec 709 right? so is it something else, motion?
@@sammy10001 *LED light*
LED light is an artificial non glowing light source that cuts the visible color spectrum just to draw less power and produce less heat.
At the cost of worse light quality.
LED light gives flat/dead looking colors mostly visible in REDs and skintones.
Plasma tvs and CRTs was using natural incandescent light.
The light that comes from these TVs contains much more visible colors and they also have higher energy colors.
colors are also more pure (more narrow spikes in the spectrum that gives less light leak and stronger colors)
its all about light quality here which i have wrote about for several years.
Natural light gives natural colors
Artificial light gives artificial colors.
@@sammy10001 Light Quality has nothing to do with calibration btw.
calibration is based on measuring the "white balance" of the light it doesnt measure the "quality" of the light.
even an bad LED light source can give 6500K but then colors will still look flat and off just what they do on most of todays tvs.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 So the light quality can make two perfectly calibrated to the same standard TVs look different? I have never seen it mentioned in any review, they just mention the % of rec709 they can do or something like that
@@thanossapiens reviewers doesnt compare the image to CRT or Plasma tvs. They also dont know what light quality is and how it affects colors. But Plasma TV owners today know. They see that their Plasma tvs have more natural looking colors compared to new tvs but they dont know why. This is the reason. More reviewers should start to measure light quality and compare the TVs to real reference images.
Then you will get some real answers.
But i dont know if the majority of buyers today want to hear that their new purchase doesnt match yesteryears tvs LOL.
Its also an money issue.
Reviewers today have agendas i dont.
Here you get the real facts.
i have no problem to praise a TV like the 500M which is 14 years old as the best TV in the world even in 2022. (dont tell anyone but thats a fact ;))
i may lose some angry subcribers but i dont lose any money.
if other click bait reviewers did that all hell should break loose.
Spectacular colors! but also, SPECTACULAR MOTION!
yes no motion blur here
it looks like an moving window to reality.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 Fantastic! :)
Man I really miss plasmas. The way they handle colors & shadow detail just above black is still unparalleled IMHO
i agree but even the 500M after an reset isnt perfect near black.
But a Plasma with 3D LUT calibration on the other hand is impossible to beat with shadow details.
they have much higher Bits near black compared to new tvs.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 does our pro 101fd and 500m crush blacks after the settings
High pedigree CRT did it better. :P
Hey Patrik, have you ever tested Panasonic professional plasma monitors(such as the VX300 for example) ?
No the 500M is still better ;)
Those Panasonic monitors cant get this low blacklevel .
Ansi contrast of 1:500000
Weve moved my 15 yr old lx508 into the libing room as main driver!
Only issue is with white scenes there is noticable horizontal 'banding', 1 inch wide dimmer marks across screen left to right. 4 or 5 of them on rop half of screen. Any idea if this can be cleared up with voltage tweak??
i dont know
if its burn in from 4:3 content or not?
if you can access the service menu (you can do it with the stock remote) you can go into Panel-2 adj and lower xsus_b and ysus_b from default 128 to 124 and check
if it doesnt change set it back to default values.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 those settings are under Panel -1 , gave it a go, not much change. Its interesting because i have similar on my other lx508 but not as obvious.
May be a form of pay tv burn in here in Australia.
Hello,
I have been using my KRP500A for some time, super happy with it. :)
Now the media box is failing to start the tv, more and more often.
Is it worth to try to fix it?
You can buy fixed media boxes from "thepioneerman" on ebay
@@thebossnocompetition8757Thank you!
I will contact him now.
What do you think about the 500A vs the 500M, big diffrence?
@@lukasjerresand2490 500M is the best kuro. Clean image. Smoother motion. Sharper details and less ABL dimming. Its an reference monitor
@@thebossnocompetition8757 there is one selling for 750 euros in Croatia, is it worth buying it s KRP 500AW, and is there big difference between it and ST 60 panasonic, and would you prefer mybe new Panasonic OLED if you have watched any of it like LZ series,since everyone say thay have most accurate colors out of box, there is one panasonic ST 60 for 120 euros, is it big change in quality from G30 model since i have that one still, and do you have any calibration settings for G30 ,thank you in advace.
Hi,
Do you by any chance have the hdr settings for a krp500a, as I would like the optimal settings for 4k bluray playback. My plasma is not isf calibrated.
Many thanks
Louis
i cant find them right now but you must use color space 1 and i think CTI should be on for brighter highlights.
you should also reduce the ABL dimming in the service menu
@@thebossnocompetition8757 thanks for the quick reply. Do you need to be in standard mode too.?
Cheers
@@louisavraamides9067 yes. pure mode only has 140 nits brightness..standard has 200.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 Perfect! thanks again
Do you have a link with all the setting s for the standard mode.? Not to worry if you haven't
Much appreciated
They should start producing SED display tvs... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface-conduction_electron-emitter_display
Unfortunately my pro 111fd has now developed thin vertical lines throughout the screen.
thats bad man!
after how many hours?
@@thebossnocompetition8757 17k hours
@@thebossnocompetition8757 all I have left is my pro 101fd and krp 600m
@@divontayswing6900 ohh nice backup :)
@thebossnocompetition8757 yes. I hope my 101fd last a long time. Still using your settings for almost perfect backs and high brightness
Best way youve found to wire up audio for the kuro??
receiver
@@thebossnocompetition8757 audio aux outs? I noticed clear voice only works when using headphone out. That's what im using currently
@@swardmusic if you want to watch netflix youtube and other apps..get the newest Google chrome tv and plug it into the Kuro..then you just connect wireless headphones to it.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 cool idea. Ive also got a hdmi audio splitter that passes on the video to the kuro and seperates the chromecast audio to speakers via optical or aux (digital or analog)
You still around Pat?
sure
@@saladmaster1392 im finished messing around with this tv.
it is nerfed from the true 1500 Nits that they claimed it should have.
nothing you can change.
this tv is i see the the biggest joke after WRGB OLEDs.
@@saladmaster1392 ok show me the brightness measurements on real content before and after then we can talk.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 That's up to you. Just thought u could change some settings one last time & do some measurements. If it sounds like a chore don't bother. Just thought I'd reach out. Could share details over snapchat so I can explain the several changes. Happy New Year if not. Appreciate the knowledge you've shared!
@@saladmaster1392 then its just your opinion.
you need hard facts before i mess around with this tv again ;)
See videos on my channel (3 of them) if you want to see a ST60 vs a80k. A80k native HDR vs SDR plasma, both sets in the most accurate out of box settings. Skin tones, details, colors.... everything looks better on the plasma even SDR vs HDR. What a turd that Sony OLED was. I've now tried a C9, C2 and a80k. OLED is not an upgrade to last gen high end plasma. Its just not. HDR on OLED is worse than SDR on plasma.
Well it depends on the hdr content. Proper graded hdr content really looks good on the qd oleds. But still not the same natural picture as the Plasma tvs. There are several factors why. Natural light vs LED light. Sample and hold motion vs PWM motion. As i see it LED light that all tvs today uses gives an artificial looking image. Flat lifeless colors. Also why skintones looks more natural on the Plasma tvs is because they have energy towards infrared in the colorspectrum. LED light cuts that part out to draw less energy.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 the a80k is a particularly dim oled and that didn't help.
@@michaelscott466 every oled is dim due to ABL. No problem in SDR but it affects peakbrightness in HDR on most bright scenes. You only get max peak brightness on low lit scenes.
@@thebossnocompetition8757 yes you are very right! A few years ago I hired you to help me reset my Kuro. It is still running strong and I've been trying for years to find a new TV that I can live with. I am now trying the qn90b, it is better than every single OLED I have tried but I haven't decided yet if it's a suitable replacement for my Kuro and st60. I have 30 days so I'm going to give it some more time and see how I feel about it. I'm trying to put in your white balance settings in filmmaker mode as your instruction say. Did you mean to enter the 20-point into movie mode because in film maker mode I cannot access 20-point. Can you let me know please?
@@thebossnocompetition8757 why do you refuse to answer! I need your help on that 20pt question.
Bro i love this tv, if you have a pc with this tv pfffft !!
For television cannels is it to old, but if you have a 4k machine that doing downsampling 🤌🤌
The television channels you watch are not exactly shown in Pristine 4k