Awesome video. Love the fact you used two popular brands and showed the mix differences as the Vallejo is an airbrush ready formula. Thanks brother. Nice relaxing music too instead of teenage rage metal as on some videos!!! Lol Great job. Will be trying myself. Not bad for a video now 7 years old
Washes are so good, I don’t even paint models or anything like that but I can tell that they’re just super useful (and usually add that touch of realism along with dry brushing) from the 9,000 model painting videos I’ve seen
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Hello! My name is Joel and I'm a railfan from Arizona. I found one of your excellent rail photos online, and have been using it (UP 2290 in Stockton, CA) as my computer's lockscreen background for a few months! Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find you until now, since nobody who uploads the image to their own site has given credit to you as the original photographer. It took a lot of detective work, but I'm glad to have found out who took the picture! So, thank you so much for taking it! It brings me joy to look at!
I tried this method and found it very effective and easy. The alcohol is already thinned down straight from the bottle and then when only a few drops are added into the water/paint mix it's not going to harm well dried acrylic paints. None of the ones I've done have any white hazing as a result of this method either. Maybe as always others should try the method before commenting negatively on it...
If you remove the alcohol from the Vallejo formula, the wash can be used over Vallejo Acrylics without a gloss coat to seal. Beside Vallejo, unlike Tamiya, are true acrylics, purely water based.
I made some washes with cheap, made in china acrylics and they also work pretty well. I'm very reticent to waste a single drop of those expensive brand paints to make these kind of experiments.
how do you wash off the excess wash? (I made a wash with the tamiya paints) *Also thank you for posting this video, I made a wash that works really well, just need to wipe of the excess since I'm still a noob.
Hello Pit KARGES Question: For Vallejo, I can replace the 1/2 part of isopropyl alcohol with 1/2 part of liquitex airbrush fluid medium? Thanks for the video and for your help
You'd probably need the samw proportions but first you've gotta mix the paint with matte medium, albeit I don't know what proportions would make it similar to one of these paints.
The pigments in cheap acrylics paints won't allow for making good washes. Sufficient for terrain where the cost savings will add up quickly but otherwise worth investing in the better paints. A 17ml bottle of Vallejo is only a few bucks and will last forever if this is all you're using it for.
In spite of what some people say, craft paints can be used for anything in modelling. They need to be thinned properly for washes or for airbrushing but the usual techniques work just fine. Some paint colours work better than others. A thinned white is difficult but a thin brown is fairly easy. Best part is, experimenting is cheap and easy. A buck or two to try a couple of paints and you're off. I've built entire models with craft paints and no one can tell the difference, especially in something that is heavily weathered where an imperfect finish is an advantage sometimes.
@@harits3183 just test...I have not done in years..I use thinned oil paint now...actually that works better...you can get inexpensive 12 pack of oils for $10
Tamiya is based on Isopropanol alcohol, the thinner from Tamiya contains a lot of Isopropanol an you can use pure Isopropanol to thin the Tamiya paint. But Vallejo is not based on Isopropanol and the paint can't thin down with alcohol. In the case of Vallejo, the Isopropanol is only applied to reduce the surface tension of the water.
@@Galdorx The Tamiya thinner is not only Isopropanol, give it a try and see what happens...but you can thin Tamiya paint using only Isopropanol (70 or 99%)
Isn't there still the problem of surface tension? Both alcohol and water are used for diluting the paint, but no additive is used for getting rid of surface tension. Has anyone had problems with this method where your paint had difficulty flowing into the deepest recesses of the model?
Model Air is Model Color with the adition of thinner pre mixed at the factory. Prepare your Model Color to the same consistency as Model Air using thinner of your choice then experiment with the perctanges the author has suggested. In fact, just start with the same percentages as shown in the video then double maybe tripple to whatever consistency works well for you. I always trust my eye and use these suggested percentages as a benchmark. It's easier than it seems at first. Have fun! and experiment on an old model or create a dummy model for tests.
Depends on what kind of paints you are using and whether it will reactivate the layer underneath. It's always a good idea to keep a test dummy to work on side by side with your model. It can be any flat surface but paper covered foam board is what I usually use. Cut out a piece 1'x1' and paint it and weather it in the same steps you use with your model. If you want to get fancy, glue on some bits and bobs like you would encounter on your model. Flat panels, small attachments etc. Any weathering technique you want to try on your model, try on the test dummy first. Pin washes, streaking, dirt, grime etc. Better to screw up your test dummy than your model. If you want to go all out, just assemble a mule, a cheap older kit you don't want to build, and use it to test out your techniques on.
It thins the paint. Thinning it makes it easier to paint without losing detail, hides brush strokes, easier to apply, etc. It should be noted that it won't work with all acrylic paints. Some will be rendered completely useless due to chemistry stuff.
here in 2020, Alcohol is way to important to do this, but maybe when times are no longer dark and the Human race rises above the ashes once more...I can paint once again, with freedom..
Pit KARGES Been researching this topic and some people say it’s not recommended to use IPA as it may remove previous layers of paint if used with a brush. For Vallejo they have Thinner Medium designed for brush painting, Airbrush thinner contains IPA but it doesn’t affect previous layers with an airbrush. Green Stuff World has a thinner designed for both airbrush and brush so their paints or formulas maybe different. I use mostly Vallejo Game Color paints.
i tried yours and using ink+medium+acrylic retarder. the other technique sticks to crevices and curved surfaces better but your technique is a lot cheaper.
Thanks for this. How would you go about making a wash using Tamiya Thinner? Would you still use water, and would the proportions stay the same? Thank you!
thinning paints with just water causes the wash to have too much surface tension. The alcohol solves that here. And so does any acrylic medium. I'd try your own mix of water, alcohol and/or matte medium. I personally use a mix of water, Vallejo medium and Vallejo paint thinner. I don't have the exact ratios though because I mostly eyeball it (not optimal but I'm lazy). >
For washes, the Matt Medium will probably still make the wash too thick. I use a 1:1 Matt water mixture to thin down base coats and it's still too thick for a wash. It needs to be thin thin. Sorry for the necro post. :D
Would making these washes be safe to use on bare plastic? I know the tamiya panel line wash that they sell is not safe on bare plastics and can make the plastic brittle. I believe that’s because it has an enamel or thinner in it, but would these do the same with the alcohol in them or would they be safe on bare plastic? If someone can answer this for me I would greatly appreciate it.
Ignore that question, I'm embarrassed to say I had no Idea the Paint I've been using for years Liquitex basics IS Acrylic! lol. I'll follow your formula exactly thanks :)
isopropyl alcohol comes in may ratios already mixed with water (99%, 50%, 75%) it is not helpful to just say isopropyl alcohol. In fact depending on the type use you may not need to add any water at all.
I've just come back to modelling and already I've read more times that I can remember that using IPA with most acrylics is just a bad idea. I won't even risk it.
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Simple straight to the point video! Thanks for sharing!
Seriously! Straight to the point, love it.
I just tried this with tamiya. Applied the wash over gloss varnish on my tank. Worked great
Dude thank you. I had no idea it was this easy. I been looking around in hobby stores everywhere and can't ever find any
Awesome video. Love the fact you used two popular brands and showed the mix differences as the Vallejo is an airbrush ready formula. Thanks brother. Nice relaxing music too instead of teenage rage metal as on some videos!!! Lol Great job. Will be trying myself. Not bad for a video now 7 years old
Washes are so good, I don’t even paint models or anything like that but I can tell that they’re just super useful (and usually add that touch of realism along with dry brushing) from the 9,000 model painting videos I’ve seen
Thanks for this, I'm just new to the hobby of printing and painting. This helped a lot!
Thanks, you gave me the key to making washes. I can’t wait to start painting again.
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I see it takes a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
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Hello!
My name is Joel and I'm a railfan from Arizona. I found one of your excellent rail photos online, and have been using it (UP 2290 in Stockton, CA) as my computer's lockscreen background for a few months! Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find you until now, since nobody who uploads the image to their own site has given credit to you as the original photographer. It took a lot of detective work, but I'm glad to have found out who took the picture! So, thank you so much for taking it! It brings me joy to look at!
SUPER helpful.
I'm building my first tank and didn't want to have to go and buy a bottle of brown wash just for the little bit of mud and dust.
For sure though! It should say right on the bottle that you can do that! But they gotta get you to buy more products I suppose. 😔
I tried this method and found it very effective and easy. The alcohol is already thinned down straight from the bottle and then when only a few drops are added into the water/paint mix it's not going to harm well dried acrylic paints.
None of the ones I've done have any white hazing as a result of this method either.
Maybe as always others should try the method before commenting negatively on it...
Finally found your video again ty!!!! Testing now
Great video! Really helped me out while painting some minis when I ran out of the brown wash I was using.
I start in the figure painting and Thank you Very mutch :)!! Finally a video answers my questions :)!!
If you remove the alcohol from the Vallejo formula, the wash can be used over Vallejo Acrylics without a gloss coat to seal. Beside Vallejo, unlike Tamiya, are true acrylics, purely water based.
I suggest to put some vallejo air brush flow improver to have viscosity like oil paints.
Im never buying washes ever again 😁 Thnxx for the video 🤜🤛
Thank you much, I never knew how to do that
Thanks for the vid!🤓✌️ 🎨
So glad. I'm doing pink horrors with a photo negative look and need a white wash.
How'd that go?
Absolutely right, make your own. Acrylic and oil. Why spend more of a brand name.
I made some washes with cheap, made in china acrylics and they also work pretty well. I'm very reticent to waste a single drop of those expensive brand paints to make these kind of experiments.
Great video thank you.
Hi, thanks for video, does syone know what percentage of uzopryl alcohol is good for this? We have 90% and 70% available in pharmacy
Hi. You can use both. The alcohol is mainly to reduce the surface tension of the water.
@@rcdfo thanks
I would have loved to have seen it in action!
Does the percentage level of the isopropyl alcohol matter? I have 70%, but there are higher percentages out there..
70% Isopropyl works
Quick question. Can either method be used with acrylic ink? Liquitex for example?
I don't know, but give it a try....with a few drops of paint.
Would regular ethanol work instead of IPA. It's much easier to obtain here where i live.
I don't know, but give it a try with a few drops of paint.
hello! im sorry to ask but instead of alcohol, can i use tamiya thinner?
yes, it contains Isopropyl alcohol.
how do you wash off the excess wash? (I made a wash with the tamiya paints)
*Also thank you for posting this video, I made a wash that works really well, just need to wipe of the excess since I'm still a noob.
If necessary, you can use a little sponge or a Q-Tip (dry or with a touch of Isopropyl)
You can also get "precision" cotton q-tips/swabs to make the detail washing cleanup easier. I have two sizes with very tiny tips.
Hello Pit KARGES
Question: For Vallejo, I can replace the 1/2 part of isopropyl alcohol with 1/2 part of liquitex airbrush fluid medium?
Thanks for the video and for your help
Maybe, give it a try....
OK, thanks
Not sure this has been answered but what concentration IPA are you using? I have some 95% that I use to clean my 3D Prints with.
That's ok
Nice video! Can be used Vallejo airbrush thinner or Vodka 40⁰ instead of isopropyl...?
I don't know... :-)
I wish you would’ve swatched your washes so we could see how it turns out on canvas. But thank you for the info in the video.
How about the Walmart brand acrylic paint Apple Barrel? What are the ratios for this paint to make a proper wash?
You'd probably need the samw proportions but first you've gotta mix the paint with matte medium, albeit I don't know what proportions would make it similar to one of these paints.
The pigments in cheap acrylics paints won't allow for making good washes. Sufficient for terrain where the cost savings will add up quickly but otherwise worth investing in the better paints. A 17ml bottle of Vallejo is only a few bucks and will last forever if this is all you're using it for.
Lol Can't believe I was asking how to make washes out of Apple barrel paints! Yeah I've moved passed that Thanks fellas
In spite of what some people say, craft paints can be used for anything in modelling. They need to be thinned properly for washes or for airbrushing but the usual techniques work just fine. Some paint colours work better than others. A thinned white is difficult but a thin brown is fairly easy. Best part is, experimenting is cheap and easy. A buck or two to try a couple of paints and you're off. I've built entire models with craft paints and no one can tell the difference, especially in something that is heavily weathered where an imperfect finish is an advantage sometimes.
Does it matter what the dilution of the alcohol is that's used? As in, 70% out of the bottle vs. 90%?
70% works too.
Question from a newbie. What is the purpose of the alcohol? Can I make it without the alcohol and use a medium instead?
I don't know, but give it a try....with a few drops of paint.
Can i use different alcohol instead isoprophyl?
You mean beer or what? 😁
@@innerlight7018 Nah, now i know.Window cleaning liquid is good too
For the Tamiya acrylics I just use water no alcohol
Is it worked?
@@harits3183 yes works good
@@mikewood4242 what is the ratio of the paint and water?
@@harits3183 just test...I have not done in years..I use thinned oil paint now...actually that works better...you can get inexpensive 12 pack of oils for $10
nice viceo, but just one questions, why use more water and less isopropanol in Vallejo paint then you are using in Tamya paint.
Tamiya is based on Isopropanol alcohol, the thinner from Tamiya contains a lot of Isopropanol an you can use pure Isopropanol to thin the Tamiya paint. But Vallejo is not based on Isopropanol and the paint can't thin down with alcohol. In the case of Vallejo, the Isopropanol is only applied to reduce the surface tension of the water.
@@rcdfo Thx... So what im doing is not good, im usung Tamiya Thinner for Tamiya and Vallejo paints. :D and Airbrush cleaner from Tamiya
@@Galdorx The Tamiya thinner is not only Isopropanol, give it a try and see what happens...but you can thin Tamiya paint using only Isopropanol (70 or 99%)
Can this be used on air dry clay trinkets?
Isn't there still the problem of surface tension? Both alcohol and water are used for diluting the paint, but no additive is used for getting rid of surface tension. Has anyone had problems with this method where your paint had difficulty flowing into the deepest recesses of the model?
No, the alcohol is the additive for getting rid of surface tension.
Pit KARGES allright! Never truly worked with that though. Could flow improver be a decent substitute?
Maybe, but I don't have try it.
Can I use mr color instead of tamiya
I don't know, because I don't have mr color. If mr color is based on Isopropanol, then yes....give it a try with a few drops.
Is there a substitude for Isoprypil Alcohol?
Can you use only water if I'm going to paint whole plane with brushes? Or did you prepare this mix for airspray? Thanks
The mix is good for both, to use with airbrush or brushes.
@@rcdfo I just found out and understood that my acrylic paints are solvent based so water is no good?
@@DainiusArt No, you can only use water with water based acrylics like Tamiya and Vallejo....
I have Vallejo model paints not air paint. Think the ratios would be the same?
I don't have model paints, but give it a try....
Model Air is Model Color with the adition of thinner pre mixed at the factory. Prepare your Model Color to the same consistency as Model Air using thinner of your choice then experiment with the perctanges the author has suggested. In fact, just start with the same percentages as shown in the video then double maybe tripple to whatever consistency works well for you. I always trust my eye and use these suggested percentages as a benchmark. It's easier than it seems at first. Have fun! and experiment on an old model or create a dummy model for tests.
does anyone knows why my blackwash leaves a white stain in the cracks¿¿
Can I use normal Vallejo paints instead of the airbrush kind? Thanks for the video!!!
I don't know, but give it a try with a few drops of paint....maybe yes
@@rcdfo Ah okay. Thanks!
After you use the wash on your tank, should I varnish before streaking?
Depends on what kind of paints you are using and whether it will reactivate the layer underneath. It's always a good idea to keep a test dummy to work on side by side with your model. It can be any flat surface but paper covered foam board is what I usually use. Cut out a piece 1'x1' and paint it and weather it in the same steps you use with your model. If you want to get fancy, glue on some bits and bobs like you would encounter on your model. Flat panels, small attachments etc. Any weathering technique you want to try on your model, try on the test dummy first. Pin washes, streaking, dirt, grime etc. Better to screw up your test dummy than your model. If you want to go all out, just assemble a mule, a cheap older kit you don't want to build, and use it to test out your techniques on.
For what purpose is the isopropyl alcohol? Im new in this hobby
It thins the paint. Thinning it makes it easier to paint without losing detail, hides brush strokes, easier to apply, etc.
It should be noted that it won't work with all acrylic paints. Some will be rendered completely useless due to chemistry stuff.
here in 2020, Alcohol is way to important to do this, but maybe when times are no longer dark and the Human race rises above the ashes once more...I can paint once again, with freedom..
You know isopropyl alcohol is inedible right
@@calebruggeri6357 It is however a valuable fuel source and disinfectant
Don’t be an idiot !….go build a model
@@culturedrogue1929 we are good to go now
I'm from the future, year 2023, soon to be 2024!!! It really hasn't been getting any better. What ever you guys do, DON'T VOTE FOR BIDEN!!!!!!
Been making my washed with just water, does the alcohol improve the wash in any way?
Hi, thinning paints with just water causes the wash to have too much surface tension. The alcohol solves the problem.
Pit KARGES yes I got It thanks.
Pit KARGES Been researching this topic and some people say it’s not recommended to use IPA as it may remove previous layers of paint if used with a brush. For Vallejo they have Thinner Medium designed for brush painting, Airbrush thinner contains IPA but it doesn’t affect previous layers with an airbrush. Green Stuff World has a thinner designed for both airbrush and brush so their paints or formulas maybe different. I use mostly Vallejo Game Color paints.
@@TheIcemanModdeler read the answer of 'Bonzo'.....
Won't the alcohol damage the plastic?
no
Do you know the ratio with Acrylic paint from Walmart? I believe the brand is Apple Barrell
Sorry, but I don't know this paint...give it a try with a few drops of paint
i tried yours and using ink+medium+acrylic retarder. the other technique sticks to crevices and curved surfaces better but your technique is a lot cheaper.
Thanks for this. How would you go about making a wash using Tamiya Thinner? Would you still use water, and would the proportions stay the same? Thank you!
Tamiya thinner is basically alcohol.
Would it work with the paints that come with airfix starter sets
it works only with water soluble acrylic paints
Hello, can I use ethanol 90 degrees instead of IPA? Thank you.
I don't know, give it a try, maybe yes....
hmm that's all there is? I though you need Matte medium
thinning paints with just water causes the wash to have too much surface tension. The alcohol solves that here. And so does any acrylic medium. I'd try your own mix of water, alcohol and/or matte medium.
I personally use a mix of water, Vallejo medium and Vallejo paint thinner. I don't have the exact ratios though because I mostly eyeball it (not optimal but I'm lazy). >
For washes, the Matt Medium will probably still make the wash too thick. I use a 1:1 Matt water mixture to thin down base coats and it's still too thick for a wash. It needs to be thin thin.
Sorry for the necro post. :D
Would making these washes be safe to use on bare plastic? I know the tamiya panel line wash that they sell is not safe on bare plastics and can make the plastic brittle. I believe that’s because it has an enamel or thinner in it, but would these do the same with the alcohol in them or would they be safe on bare plastic? If someone can answer this for me I would greatly appreciate it.
No problem, it's safe, Tamiya panel line is a solvent base colour, this one are water based.
Pit KARGES Thank you for the reply. I do appreciate it.
KevN B why would you use a wash or tamiya panel line wash on bare plastic?
is it different for the type of tone of paints? i see you added lees or more on the different colors ? ty
Does the alcohol concentration matter?
No, you can use 70% or 90% Isopropyl
Question: I use Liqutex Paints (Latex) Should I just add water? Or the Alcohol too?
Ignore that question, I'm embarrassed to say I had no Idea the Paint I've been using for years Liquitex basics IS Acrylic! lol. I'll follow your formula exactly thanks :)
Experiment find out.
Didn't work too well for me. After application, all of it came back up when wiped.
isopropyl alcohol comes in may ratios already mixed with water (99%, 50%, 75%) it is not helpful to just say isopropyl alcohol. In fact depending on the type use you may not need to add any water at all.
Can you use just water?
Add some dish soap with the water
Would this work with enamel paints?
No, only with acrylics. You can't use water or alcohol to dilute enamel paints. For enamel paints, you have to use white spirit.(for example)
Tip: DO NOT USE WITH ENAMEL PAINT! 😫 and good vid thank you
Is that 100% or 70% Isopropyl alcohol?
I use 99%, but it works also with 70% Isopropyl alcohol
Thanks am going to give this a go! Appreciated.
What percent of isopropyl alcohol is that?
99%, but you can use also 70%
@@rcdfo should we use a different ratio if the ISO is at 70%? i can only get 70% where i live
@@rancidhotmail no, the same....maybe a drop more
99 %, but you can also use the 70%
DO NOT USE ALCOHOL. THIS WILL DESTROY THE FINISH ON YOUR MODEL. I regret following this video.
I never had problems with the mix of color, water and alcohol. If you use too much alcohol, you get a white film on plastic models.
One way to prevent this is clear coat your models. I use a bit of alcohol also and have never had a problem.
I've just come back to modelling and already I've read more times that I can remember that using IPA with most acrylics is just a bad idea. I won't even risk it.
I would take70% isopropanol and not the 80%(which is good for thermal paste removal). It´s less aggresive and helps cure and dry washes.
@@Crom4President Should I add the clear coat after the wash or before? Thanks.
what is the name of the background music?
One of the two most famous questions asked on TH-cam, name of music and did he died? Who cares about either one.
Sounds like 70's porno soundtrack
What about humbrol acrylic paints ??
Yeah well, good luck finding isopropyl alcohol today. It's out of stock everywhere thanks to covid-19.
No problem here in Luxembourg :-)
I have a tub of iso and it feels good:))