Are Any Hoyoverse Games Truly Worth Your Time?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2025
- Hoyoverse has taken the gaming world by storm with its flashy visuals, expansive worlds, and addictive mechanics. But with so many games under their belt, are any of them actually worth your time?
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hoyo is farming like crazy - release a good game, get people hooked, start gathering feedback, use it for the next game, milk the players who are stuck with the previous game because of time suck fallacy, nostalgia about good ol' days, etc. rinse and repeat
The Hoyo effect
But where would HI3 and ToT fall in this? 🤔
@@AI7428 hi3 Delivering good contain
Yeah zzz players need to realize that just because the game is currently the best out of the 3 in terms of QoL updates, doesn’t mean the game is L proof.
Once they release a new game they’ll stop improving ZZZ and hard focus on that new game. Time is ticking but right now ZZZ is definitely the best for sure
It really depends because it’s already their lowest selling so if it stays there it might end up being the best
I totally agree...
This strategy of dangling carrot in front of their players is starting to backfire on them and I hope they realize it soon. ZZZ is arguably their best, yet people who dissatisfied from their previous games will never give it a chance because they left with a bad taste in their mouth.
@ to be fair I think that’s a good thing overall because the problem at hand is that if they keep making one game shit they’ll trust that people will move to their next game.
Dropping all hoyo games period regardless of how good u think they are is the best solution
To be fair.
These games are made by seperate teams.
So like...the zzz team aint gonna just...stop once miyoho releases another game
People keep saying ZZZ is fine but they said the same for HSR. Archerons an emenator, you cant powercreep that!
HSR now:
Acheron now: easily clears every piece of content in the game, on or off element
If there's one thing Hoyo player needs, it's pattern recognition, and you got it spot on. I personally still enjoy ZZZ but i will say that i'm still skeptical about how it's managed by Hoyo. Currently the trajectory is still good: nice cutscenes, great storytelling, fair gameplay, but it doesn't take a genius to see past records and draw some lines.
Hard agree. Pattern recognition is something many hoyo players absolutely lack, because its the same behaviors that introduce stockholm syndome and general addiction. "i'll get it the next time, they'll improve, they rewarded me". Hoyo has proven they're good at manipulating this to make money because they know they just have to make a new game, and their players will not notice this pattern, let alone the tactics they're using within each game"
Short answer: ZZZ. The RESPONSIBLE ANSWER: "Stay the fuck away from hoyo, you will be happier."
4:27 also, my wuwa brain cant ignore the fact that skin on the left reminds me of baizhi, not calling it a copy, but man it looks similar in my head.
as for the other 2 skins, im not well versed in zzz characters, but from what ive seen of them, those 2 skins look kinda......eeehhh...
If your a Child Play Genshin
If your Greedy and Stupid Play HSR
If You Wanna Play With One Hand Play ZZZ
No Gacha Game Is Worth Your Time you Only Play Gacha If You nothing better To do In your Life
so.. like 90% of the ppl. you including watching this video XDD
@ixirion if you didn't get some of the recent hoyo Drama Reference There
Yep That's Because I'm Too Deep into HSR to Quit and it's Pretty Easy Game to maintain Just Log in Spend Stamina log out wait for the Next patche
@ I get you. We all play m and half to get 6 hours of story.
I only play HSR cos meanwhile I am watching videos while chineese bitcoin enthusiasts use my pc on auto play.
Contrary of most ppl I actually like the story, the world and the lore. But men is the gameplay the most boring turn based game Ive ever played
Z3 ngl lowkey already starting with the powercreep
Let’s see wat the landscape is like from 1.5 onwards because if miyabi is going to be the 1 broken character every so often because she’s a void hunter then i think their fine
There's no monster power creep so so far it's all good
Mmmh miyabi its stronger than ellen but shark girl its far from useless, shes still does her job compared to natlan or all of HSR its not bad
People are missing the whole definition of “powercreep” which is “the in-game’s stat has been inflated too much to the point that older characters bacome unusable”. As of now, sure Miyabi quite powercreeps everyone, but the game has not been seem having increase in enemies’ stat or atleast not much, so there’s technically no powercreep, yet…
Well, miyabi supposedly one of strongest person in Eridu. So I can behind it, why she powercreep everyone. But if after her came out, they make other character that powercreep a lot of older character. Yeah, it's time to be worry.
It’s optional, you can use the TV exploration if you WANT, but they added basically Super Eous Bros which lets you just platform and meet up with the characters in mission
tbh as of rn, ZZZ is worth our time, but i cant say about the future, since hsr was once also worth our time. But i pray ZZZ doesnt end up in the same way as hsr
Same bro
@@DegenerateDuck Lets just hope dawei doesnt come anywhere near ZZZ.
they are making the playerbase QOL requests from one game and put it to the next game and the next upcoming game. seeing clearly the difference of the 3 games, they are strategizing how to maximize getting their playerbase to play all of their 3 games to triple the Million dollar monthly revenue. china is popular for being the best in business tactics and as i could see them doing these 3 games and playing their playerbase in 5D chess, its working really well sadly. imagine juicing the hell out of the pockets of these consumers and to psychologically dip them even more in the swamp of sunk cost fallacy investment to these 3 games and excessive gambling.
Imo, any of the hoyo games are kinda bad, play some other gachas, widen ur playing field and not just the 3 bum ass games
Yup, more worth it to just buy a switch and Zelda.
Even if you're broke just download emulators and play good games
Imo, anyone who comes to the conclusion that people who disagree with you on 3 games just must not have experienced other things, is a narcissist
@@stevenys234 profit =/= quality
@@Mystra I agree this person is definitely got some mental world, that need to go on in their fucking heads
0:48 thank god I subscribed 20 seconds before this moment 🤣. I subbed cause you’re critical of games that have massive room for improvement. Love your content. Was watching since TOG and then saw you had more time for wuwa which involves Genshin at times. Cant wait for more content.
ZZZ, Tears of Themis, Genshin if you're a casual player, and HSR it kinda depends imo.
Hot take, but I think ZZZ will mostly be fine, because of the fact that this game didn't have a good release (especially in China) unlike Genshin or HSR.
People might say but what about the powercreep because of Miyabi, why it's understandable to be worried about it, but the thing is you can still clear content in the game with Ellen, Harumasa, or that cop lady I forgot her name just fine, heck I saw a person that clear content with just Billy.
People don't understand that powercreep isn't just about stronger characters, its about the enemies shaping to those stronger characters. Which hasn't happened. ZZZ is def in the best spot as of now.
If CN reception is not good, it have high chance to have the improvement on it. CN player satisfied by Genshin, HSR and ZZZ. We can't hope for improvement.
blud you realize thats the same in all hoyo games. they have alot of problems but "powercreep" aint it, its the lack of interesting and engaging content in genshin. HSR still slaps every day of the week, and ZZZ is getting better.
I don't play ZZZ anymore but for what I'm seeing from some comments about zzz players, they are talking about Miyabi being really really strong and some even talking about powercreep is crawling now on zzz. Tho there are people who still saying that Ellen still can manage to clear things, not as fast as Miyabi but still manageable. So for me i would like to view it as maybe Miyabi is equivalent of Jinshi coz they are in lore really strong characters so i feel like it is too early for zzz players to assume that humongous powercreeping will continue, unless Miyabi ended up being powercreeped on the next 2-3 patches. Once Miyabi got the Acchoron treatment, that's when you all panic.
As long as hp inflation doesn’t happen, it’s hard for powercreep to be a problem, but as we can see in the other 2 hoyo games, yeah, there’s no guarantee this wouldn’t also happen in ZZZ.
@@DegenerateDuck oh that also the hp inflation thing. So far, what do you think about the hp every patches from zzz?
Miyabi is a void hunter, basically zzz's own special characters like archons are for genshin, also similar to like you said jinshi who is resonator of their own guardian in jinshou. I guess the extra love is understandable but i wish it was not another acheron situation but only time can tell.
@@infinityslayer5784 that's what I'm seeing players are bringing coz Miyabi is a Void hunter, that's why i can't yet to assume if Miyabi is a true startt of powercreep, since I'm still seeing players saying that older characters are still useable. So far majority still positive about zzz as far I'm seeing to it's player base which is great
@ggrimmfield5529 true, i guess we shall really only know in hindsight but so far id say zzz is worth it if you do enjoy the gameplay, it can be kinda overwhelming at times though with all the events and game modes but perhaps that's just me since im more of a casual player.
the main point is actually that HSR and ZZZ are actually not a good games. HSR combat is 95% auto. so it may have great story but as a game its bad. ZZZ is just too goofy, colorful and childish.
Gi was what player wanted fantasy gacha rpg with good story, combat and chars. As soon as in Natlan they try to make GI in ZZZ we see the players dislike. Very few ppl like the goofy chars, the kid story and pretty colors like in toddler shop
I'd say, not a single one of them.
"But ZZZ is good"
yes, I agree, but this game is made by Hoyoverse, so expect them to murder this game, which is why Miyabi powercreep has been called out for months now.
3:36 They removed the TV mode from the STORY missions starting with 1.2. If you wanna do side quests, comissions, exploration and hollow zero basically everything that involves getting close to 100% of the game's resources, there's lot of TV content that you have to do. With that said, nobody lied here in the advertising, but I see a lot of people spreading around the misinformation that TVs are gone and that is not at all the case.
Oh ok so the tv system is still there it’s just not in the main story got it. I think that’s fine because the tv mode in story honestly ruined everything. If it’s in other game modes that’s fine. Thanks for the clarification.
@@FarosYT No worries man.
"Are Any Hoyoverse Games Truly Worth Your Time?"
No. But then again... there's not much to do for me.
Its really worth for me to play their game in silent as free to play.
People are weirdly generous to ZZZ when it practically never earns it... It really goes to show just how beaten down they are by Hoyo's other games.
The story still isn't very good most of the time, the powercreep is already just as nutty as HSR (like seriously, have you played Miyabi?), farming Artifacts and materials is still just as terrible as its always been and the combat falls drastically behind every other similar Action game on the market... So not even does it have all the same problems as its predecessors, it doesn't even manage to nail its own genre niche.
Personally i hate the fact that around Dendro was introduced in Genshin the HP inflation and annoying mechanics kept on ramping up until now we see Natlan Enemies in Spiral Abyss its insane how devs think HP inflation is good for lifetime of the game literally year 2-3 units that are meh are made even more crap...cuz why do u pull early units?
Up until fontaine we still got characters that worked well with some previous units, that was foregone in natlan, the characters there synergize very well with each other and all to hype mauvika, which besides big numbers its not a very fun character to play
And all the explorstion buffs will be removed once we move on
@@LimC.A Tbf it was never really part of anyone's predictions that they would add region soft locked enemies into spiral abyss. Honestly I think it should be illegal to invalidate the old characters like this.
JYI story that lasts many hours is not the problem, the actual problem is water in the dialogs from a story for about 10 hours only 30min is valuable.
Da Wei is the only way. All future are converging to a singular point: Greed.
I don’t recommend playing any of these Hoyo games. If you must DO NOT spend money in them bc you might end up feeling trapped and have to play to get your moneys worth even when you are done with the game. Sunk cost fallacy is what keeps a lot of people playing these games. Hoyo has a very greedy/slimy rep. People think ZZZ is Hoyo’s devs listening moment but I disagree. I Pre DL ZZZ at launch but never even open it and ended up un installing because I did not want to get stuck into another sunk cost fallacy game. I’m glad I did that bc Hoyo does not deserve my time or money.
BP and monthly sub only player and I have all the characters I want. Just don't be dumb and stoopid like players who willingly get into sunk cost fallacy mode.
I got back into pgr instead of this cesspool. There is a huge patch right now as they catch in up to cn.
3 patches content are in one update
as a hsr player and someone who quit zzz, no, go play a different gacha game from other companies trust me
One of the main reason I refused to play ZZZ is because of it being an Hoyo game. The 50/50 on the weapon banner is something I can't accept when it's guaranteed in WuWa. Thet don't even hide their greed anymore. It's already present in HSR so I refuse to have the same experience in ZZZ.
Also, Hoyo will never improve their games as long as they can make profits, it's so evident nowadays. Just look at some of the japanese gacha games, some games have never been improved since their launch but still making millions (FGO is the best example)
True, Idk why they just not focus on genshin, genshin makes millions of money, they should focus improving genshin, the reason people are clowning on genshin is because they're improving stuff, like resins ( it shouldn't be a problem if resin refreshes fast), artifacts rolls, not enough rewards, only 1 5 star skin, forcing everyone to explore to get rewards, man, if genshin devs actually fix these issues, there would be less clowning on it, I love genshin and HSR probably my favorites, but im not gonna blindly ignore the issues, anyways, nice video bro!
In all hoyoverse games, always expect nothing.
Sick and tired of hoyoverse. All these issues and they just refuse to fix them, they just fix it in the next game🤦🏾♂️ so glad I quit all 3 games
ZZZ is the superior game compared to GI and HSR
it's crazy going into hoyo brainwashed channels comment sections and seeing how they all somehow look, talk, and act EXACTLY like the people in your channel 😂 get that bag on whatever grift you gotta pull i guess
I think it's still worth it depends on your preferences. However I just stopped spending money on hoyo instead and moved my spending to their competitor.
I absolutely love ZZZ. The combat is so fun. The characters are exactly my type of tea but I will say that I deleted Genshin because I couldn’t lie to myself anymore on the direction. The game is taken and just how predatory they are now with their characters so I switched to WuWa and oh my goodness this whole time I’ve been completely oblivious by my own naïve ignorance that hoyo actually cared about me as a player WuWa devs and the game I’ve been a complete change on my outlook on Genshin impact. HSR is cooked fuck that game.
NOOO!
this is a trap, just play zzz an wuwa.
Save yourself from the genshin an hsr mines ☠
Yes, ZZZ but thats it
ZZZ will meet the same fate as Genshin and HSR once Hoyo releases a new game.
@Satyr42 I hope not, but it's a possibility
@@Satyr42 bro talked like he saw the future
@@DegenerateDuckIts just pattern recognition
@@Satyr42 Let me cope that ZZZ will be the exception (unlikely but I can dream)
Im detaching from hoyoverse as an all , i will give up on genshin after schneznaya release that would be my last time with genshin
I think, no. The company itself is acting based on some real bad faith.
I played ZZZ the most and went up until before Miyabi was released. I just lost interest in it. The game wasn’t bad or anything, worst part was probably the TV mode but I just got bored. I was able to get every character without spending money outside the month pack. I won’t redownload or anything but I kept up with it the most.
I'm playing HSR and Genshin and also don't like their storytelling.
ZZZ is not my cup of tea either.
Could you make a video about games with excellent/ flawless/ very good storytelling?
Story telling in hsr is good it’s just that their so lazy now in days that they don’t show anything in cutscenes
Zzz for me is still a mid game. The combat feels boring and i am simply not a fan of the artstyle. Most characterd have a black, grey or brown design to em which is bland and the characters look really uncanny. I also think Jane looks bad as well as the singer girl.
Also March 7s skin is not mid, it makes her look so damn fine.
Ok.....what are you on about lol
yes March 7s skin is beautiful however it's just sad that it's locked on preservation path which people rarely use.
@@SV-vi8vv I am not denying that, it should be something that works on all paths
@@Moonslayer01 What do you mean?
@@zukodude487987 I hope they implement it to work of all M7 paths in the future 🙏
Only game that's worth is ZZZ 🗿
Just play Honkai impact 3rd best of all 4 by a LONG shot lol
I dont like storytelling in zzz as well, also there were no Interesting characters for me so I droped the game
Zzz for me section 6 wrecks everything
how about honkai impact 3rd
peak
He said it doesn't count
Thk god i not play any hoyo game at all
Genshin and hsr are just bad, zzz is the definition of mid
I play genshin and star rail I couldn't get into ZZZ
Crazy
we get it bro you hate genshin..
We get it bro you love genshin and you don’t want anybody to hate it…
@ I don’t love genshin tho 😂
It looks like to me he is just stating facts. I am already playing genshin for 4 years now so I understand where he's coming from.
Mind you when their new game will be released, they will start creating new problems to their current 3 games (on purpose) just some minor inconveniences that will give these players an incentive to go to their new and more generous game and these cycles will go infinitely as if they crack the code of making money with little to no effort.
If you expect that any of the previous games will be improved.. dream on (it will only kill their new shiny money maker)
I playing the three of them. I stopped playing HSR ( I play since when Silverwolf came out) after Yapcony, even FSN collab didn't make me look back at all. I don't like 5 hours to just story with barely anything at all. As for genshin, I just stopped after this natlan update. This region is suck, especially character that focus exploration paywall. It's awful, the story is not as good as Furina and Nahida.
As for ZZZ, tv-system is suck so I stopped playing 2 week after release. But I heard 1.5 is a good update. And I try it a week ago and I like the main story. It's a not Yapping fest like penacony. And the most easy daily task ever. Login, open shop, and spent all stamina and your good. The interface also make you moving around area quite easy.
So yeah, right now, ZZZ is the best of the three.
I feel like HSR and Genshin is stuck in pandemic time... think people have a lot of time to play game so they tried to make player playing game for a long time.