Business Class on Taiwan's NEW FLAGSHIP Limited Express!
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Hello and welcome to Taiwan for the first time on the channel!
I'm just starting my exploration of another new country's rail network. Up first, we check out Taiwan's version of in infamous UK Class 800 EMU. We'll ride in Business Class in the south of the island and see how they stack up to their distant cousin...so let's go!
Date of Filming: 15/9/23
Camera: GoPro Hero 10 Black
Operator: Taiwan Railways
Departure: Kaohsiung, Taiwan
Arrival: Chiayi, Taiwan
Cost: Business Class: TW$523 (£13.30, €15.40, $16.27)
Standard Class TW$245 (£6.23, €7.22, $7.62)
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Wow!
I will surely try my best to get a ride on this......❤
These east Asian trains and there railway are just majestic✨
Well..... Will you promise one thing?
🥺
👉👈
("🌿🍵🦏"🚂)
There’s nothing I love more than a full color led screen on the outside
Don't tell Lindsey 🙃
I am Taiwanese and from Chiayi. Welcome to Chiayi.
The Chinese name for this train is "新自強號", which means self-reliance.
I also like this train very much. It is very new, well designed and very fast. You can also feel the connection with Japan in Taiwan. It is very unique.
Thanks for sharing I loved Chiayi and Alishan 😍
Taiwan > China
Ive been to Taipei once and used their MRT. Taipei was a lovely experience all round. Always impressed by how clean and cheap their services were. I hope to visit the country again and explore more places.
Exactly this ✌🏻
The departure station looked so handicapped accessible! How wonderful!
It was, and it's great to see!
I’ve always been looking forward for this video🤩 My favorite railway TH-camr doing a review on my home country’s train!
You're too kind, I hope u enjoyed it! 🙂
My main reason for going to Taiwan would be to visit the National Palace Museum. I've been an aficionado of Chinese art since my teens and that would be the highlight of a trip to Taiwan. If you have the time, try to visit it.
Next time I will for sure Rich, I loved Taiwan so much and I've got so much more to do there!
Welcome. It is nice to hear that you a fan of Chinese art. It is a must see in Taipei. Glad all these artifacts and collection are not destroyed during cultural revolution in China. Do not miss out the daily free English guide offered by the museum.
@@fsy5587 不损一下大陆都不能好好说话了是吧？可惜台北故宫前不久刚刚爆出损坏文物的事件。
@@fsy5587文化大革命没有破坏中国故宫和其他博物馆内部的文物，最多只是民间的物品。多了解点知识再动不动提到大陆
@@趴在墙头等红杏if only the mainland hadn't damaged itself, 同志 😂
Such a fabulous video! You have recently visited my hometown Shanghai, and my favorite place Taiwan (where I spent eight years for bachelor and master). It's so wonderful that from my residence in Hamburg I can now reminisce about the roads I've traveled and the trains I've ridden in through your videos. I wish you safe travels and many more videos!
Oh wow! Thanks so much 🙏🏻😊
Travelled on this train when I was in Taiwan, the experience was pretty comfortable, loved the charging ports that were included in every seat! :)
Thanks for sharing!
Really excellent video and here's the thing about Taiwanese Traditional Chinese characters is that they can also be used to write out Cantonese despite having traditional Chinese Hong Kong text available for it. You would see this in the transportation sector in Hong Kong also Taiwan. One thing you don't see here in Taiwanese train stations is simplified text if you made one for mainland China Singapore
I'll be use to use traditional Chinese next time 🙏🏻😊
为什么台湾和香港都叫我们大陆人，难道就因为我们地大吗😂😂😂😂
@@漂浮的云Taiwan and (most) of Hong Kong is literally an island, in relative to these two places naturally China would be called mainland. Its all geography.
I wouldn't travel to mainland China for all their tea. Taiwan, I would love to travel there.
It's a beautiful place 🇹🇼
Another day, another railway! This looked very nice to ride on, thanks for doing these videos.
More to come! 😀😀😀
@@NonstopEurotrip I saw your Twitter. Happy rails!
The railways in Taiwan were the reason that I became a railway fan. And it doesn't just stop at MRT/Taiwan Railway Administration/High Speed Rail/Alishan Forest Railway; the railways used to be even more widely spread, and until the early 1970s , there were push cart trams and sugar trams with passenger carriages serving every corner of Taiwan !!
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻
I bounced, in a moderated, oriental manner.
I've heard from others that Taiwan is killing it. Must-visit place.
As long as the trains don't have the "lovely" seats we have.
The seats are DfT cheapest possible spec, these look a lot nicer
An absolutely fascinating place! I'll definitely be going back soon 🙂
I been to Taiwan back years of Lee Teng Hui’s administration,quite frankly different indeed, I hope that can visit again,いつの日かもう一度行こうと思います！希望総有1⃣️日再度去台湾旅遊👍
Seats on these trainsets are widely criticized 😅
As a taiwanese, Im grateful that you visited my country! Wish you enjoyed it! Btw did you also try our high speed rail? Hope you will make a video of it as well!
I did, the video will be coming at some point 🤗
The hunting oscillation is not merely due to the nature of the 1067 gauge. It’s also the rather poor track quality in most of the section you travelled. The underground sec. btn Kaohsiung and Xinzuoying is an example of newer tracks where most trains tend to ride better; most tracks North of Xinzuoying until Taichung are crap/of inconsistent quality.
For a 1067 gauge unit, the EMU3000 is, in my experience, one of the most stable ones, being wider and equipped more recent suspension tech. Especially when compared to our own TEMU2000 units..those shake even on straights lol
Very nice! The onboard product is definitely more refined, and I like how you also show around the cities you're traveling, not just in the trains. Kaohsiung Station reminds me of Delft Station in the Netherlands, in particular the concourse design and wide open spaces.
Glad you enjoyed it 😁
Except it's probably way cleaner
Welcome to Taiwan, my 2nd home.
Actually the EMU 3000 trains can be found more on the east coast, over there you won't find the older express trains anymore (but that line is combined with the Taroko Express and Pyuma Hau). Due to covid I haven't been ik Taiwan a lot since I have this channel (and I met my better half during covid). Great trip report,
If you're here again, make sure to also visit Alishan railway & the bongbong train.
I showed Alishan in the video, maybe you didn't get that far 😉
Probably because the west coast also have the option of HSR if you prefer riding on newer rolling stock
Chiayi Is a must-visit place if you want to go to Sun Moon Lake or Alishan National Park In Some Rare occasions It actually snows up there. I know Chiayi a lot because my grandpa was actually born in that city.
It's a beautiful place 😍
@@NonstopEurotrip I actually have rode the famous Alishan Railway back in the Winter of 2020. Tbh it was a lot better during the winter.
欢迎!! I loved my time in Taiwan too when I was there recently and I hoped you enjoy it! Kaohsiung Formosa boulevard station is so pretty, make sure to watch the 12pm daily light shows!
Thanks for the tips!
in taiwan we use traditional chinese which should be 歡迎
Taiwanese people often call the TRA the Taiwan Bento Administration(台灣便當管理局） because it has the best bento in Taiwan and the worst railway construction in Taiwan. I recommend taking PP(old T.C.LTD EXP) and C.K. EXP.
edit:PP and C.K.EXP. have better(softer) seat
Have a nice trip in Taiwan!
Thanks for the tips ☺️
Pull-push express train for massage? hahahahaha
but to be honest, any train going thru north eastern or south eastern are the most most scenic route.
@@jasonpolaris PP有比較好坐的椅子，不過按摩椅的部分就真的看積的陰德夠不夠
Compare to the UK rail, I think Taiwan Railway Bento Administration is not that worse LoL
The locomotive-hauled C.K Express carriage stock have the best seats
In so many ways Taiwan feels like a chinese speaking version of japan. This is no surprise considering the history of the island.
Honestly, that's exactly how I felt. Or South Korea
TW is a beautiful place
很棒的影片，感謝介紹我們台灣的新電車
Was in Kaohsiung 2mos ago and concur, it’s such a stellar railway city.
Absolutely!
150km/h is the maximum speed of design, but the maximum speed of service is 130km/h. And thanks for this excellent video, hope to see you back in Taiwan again soon.
Greeting fron Taiwan.
Yes, you are right 👍🏻
I've taken the high-speed line from Kaohsiung to Taipei. It was stunning compared to European HSR and especially to american higher speed rail. The acceleration out of stations felt like some metro systems in the US
Coming soon on the channel ☺️
Taiwan/the ROC's 700T HSR rolling stock are based on Japan's 700 series _shinkansen_ rolling stock, which I remember has acceleration of up to 2km/h^2, while Japan's newer HSR rolling stock can accelerate up to 2.5km/h^2, as fast as their commuter & subway trains!
Taiwanese people are wise. They could run these trains faster, but didn't take that option.
Compared to the Indonesian ridiculous one, this one is safer, economic and quieter.
Three years ago, I experienced the Taipei to Chaiyi Shinkansen, which provided a pleasant two-hour journey.
Especially, Japanese-style station readymade lunchbox, Bento implementation is excellent.
Completely agree 💯👍🏻
Great that you visit Taiwan! Its a lovely place!
It really is! 🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
Finally! Coverage on Taiwan trains are very limited (in English). Try the Alishan Forest Railway!
If you'd watched to the end, you'd know did 😉
@@NonstopEurotrip I haven’t finish watching the video yet!
Just finished the video. Looking forward to it. Just too excited because westerners seldom grace the old railways of Taiwan. Hahaha. 歡迎來台!
@@jfilmtravels I'm definitely coming back soon 😀
They do look identical to the Class 800 AT300 that is used on GWR and LNER and also identical to the other trains that Hitachi have built. Very nice train and wish that we had seats that would have turned.
The window sizes look different through. In japanese style the windows match the seats with everyone getting their own small window which aligns with the seat. This means a different window layout for the business class coach must be different to match the different seat pitch. In the UK there is no consideration made to this and it's quite normal to have "window" seats which are misaligned and you sit next to a piece of wall.
Yeah it would definitely be a good addition, idk why they don't tbh
Taiwan Is a lovely country !
Absolutely agree 💯
Taiwanese/Chinese socket? Taiwan has different sockets from China, they're the same with Japan mate. :) Best from Kaohsiung
Thank you and welcome to visit Taiwan.
Thank you! 😃
I love this design very cool modern looking train. Loveed it
Glad you like it!
The livery reminds me of SBB’s Giruno, but without the red scheme.
Absolutely stunning
Thank you so much!
That bento box looked delicious 😋 was it warm?
No it was cold!
I love the music choice for this episode, it reminds me strongly of the late 1990s and early 2000s episodes of the Dutch tv-programme 'Rail Away.'
Glad you enjoyed it, I thought it fitted well!
I’ve been on this train between taoyuan and Taichung and rode it last year,unfortunately I was Abit pre occupied with a bike trip and a visit to the remaining islands on the mainland that Taiwan controls I didn’t get a chance to take theee trains… hope you enjoy Taiwan!
Loved it 😁
Excellent 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Wow the alishan mountain train ❤❤❤.
A beautiful day out 😊
I love the green bag at 0:12 ;)
And the head later on 😎
I've already eaten more than an hour ago, and it's 1:00 P.M.
You'll say you're European, but I'm Spanish and here we eat 1 hour later than Europe due to a permanent time change established in 1940, because Francisco Franco, the then Spanish ruler, wanted to look more like the then Germany ruled by the "Austrian Painter"
14:38 Btw, Twitter is no more Twitter, it is called "X"
What did you have for lunch Pedro?
@@NonstopEurotrip
A traditional Spanish stew for that time when the temperatures go down and the winter cold begins:
Lentil stew with chorizo and a sweet potato for dessert
@@pedrorubiotejero_aka_prt lovely 😍
Looks good. UK train operators focus is on profit margin rather than passenger experience. Was the ride quality worse than the UK version?
Definitely not worse 😂
In last 2 months Nonstop eurotrip gave better content than Simply railway.
Honestly...I get all these channels confused because the format is the same on all of them.
😍😍😍
Wait, what happened to Simply Railway?
@@JMR0303 Dude, I'm not saying simply railway is bad. But these days Nonstop eurotrip contents are better. Bcz last 2 months this guy is trying new countries and new trains. Like China, Indonesia, Taiwan etc.
Agreed!
Thank you for your videos. We are getting a bit old to travel much and TH-cam provides an excellent opportunity to experience things we cannot do in person. In 2016 we visited Taipei for five days and included a day return trip to Kaohsiung on the high speed line. The line had recently been extended from Taipei station to Nangang station, which also incorporates the conventional railway and the Taipei metro on different levels underground. Above these is a shopping centre and a hotel where we stayed. Super convenient!
In Kaohsiung we rode the first section of the Kaohsiung light rail using old rail tracks serving the docks. The line was very new and the authorities were very concerned about road traffic behaviour at level crossings - a flagman walked in front of the tram at one major crossing.
Glad you enjoy them, and thanks for watching 😀
9:36 Correction: The electrical outlet is Taiwanese/North American, not Chinese. China uses the AUS/NZ standard.
Another great video !!
Thanks again!
11:43 Hunting Oscillation because of the narrower gauge track. The 1,067mm gauge can't handle high speed and so does metre gauge, exemption KTMB ETS though idk how they run at such high speed.
ETS is a great ride, agree!!
@@NonstopEurotrip it all deponds on track quality and average speed.maybe try the other intercity rolling stocks and try their ride quality as they have tilting mechanism something this train does not have ,a decision made by the railway ministry .it would be interesting to compare if the tilting mechanism increases ride comfort.
@@shazzatulanam6680That’s the case with Queensland tilting trains, much less hunting than the older emu’s and also upgraded track quality.
Not really derived from UK class 300 . It's a variant of the Hitachi AT 300 as is the BR Class 300
Exactly as stated in the video
Great review 😊
Thank you! 🤗
Feels kind of like a hospital inside. But looks much nicer on the outside without having to conform to our silly loading gauge
I mean it is narrow gauge 🥲
@@NonstopEurotripooh, I suppose that explains the hunting
Bom dia muito lindo trem boa viagem
I know you don't know the language, and I know the natives aren't offended, but that's simplified Chinese you're using. They use traditional. I'm being a picky arse, but still funny though.
1 special thing I do appreciate about Taiwan's Metros is that the announcements are in 4 languages: Mandarin, English, Taiwanese, and Hakka. They do get a little long, but the latter 2 are native. Seems to be the case for this train as well.
I'll be sure to do it correctly in the next video, thank you! 🙏🏻
Good insight into Taiwan :) Were standard class seats rotatable too?
Yes mate, they all are 😀
@@NonstopEurotrip that's great. last time i saw this was in Australia going out to the Blue Mountains from Sydney - a really nice, but slow line btw.
@@IanMossManchester I'll have to try it one day! It's super common in Asia tbh
Honestly all east asia and south east Asian railway are doing better job rather than UK railway right now, respectfully but UK railway are suck to differentiate economy and first class if you compare to Taiwan, China, Japan, and Indonesia. Because 4 of those countries are having similar standards and share same decision on differentiating service.
100 agree 👍🏻
Taiwanese here, I heard that many people think the business class seats aren't worth it. You can just take the HSR for a slightly higher price and enjoy a much more comfortable and faster ride.
That's true! But it doesn't stop everywhere
Awesome
😎😎😎
Nice video!
Thanks!
The Shinkansen of Japan and KTX of Korea, neighboring countries of Taiwan, look better.
It's not the same thing in the slightest
Bento on taiwan train is pretty look, pork chop is the signature. The track goes back hundred years, pretty dated. HSR has new track. The mountain train has two lines, one uses all wood carriage, the wood smell is very great. HSR is very convenient, one every few minutes, I ride it like an extended metro.
So good!
I had traveled taiwan when i was little (2017.2018.2019)
🇹🇼🇹🇼🇹🇼
@@NonstopEurotrip I was riding the Tze-Chiang Limited Express DR2800 DMU Taiwanese Version of Class 158 Express Sprinter
@@NonstopEurotrip and the Puyuma
Currently only 'New' Tze Chiang l. Express offer bussiness class, they use the new train type EMU3000, which is the only train set with a bussiness coach in TRA. Tze Chiang express also operates with push-pull train, DMU and TEMU for EMU with tilt bogey , those do not have bussiness cars.
As mentioned in the video
@@NonstopEurotripyep but you mentioned many type of train offered bussiness class, which is not the same as what I know. still appreciate your work a lot
Great trip. Sadly the subtitle didn't show up. Overall great train and great facilities onboard.
Thanks! I'll check out the subtitles when I get to my hotel later 🙏🏻
I love oyur channel thank you!!!
You are so welcome!
I am Taiwanese, i live in new taipei city,i was taking a emu3000 business class taipei to taitung，i was going to my grandma home，wow emu3000 business class is very Comfortable for Economy class
Yes, it certainly is 👍🏻😄
I live in Taichung
Welcome to Taiwan
Thank you 👍🏻
I noticed that Taiwan in general is very similar to Japan
It is, maybe 10 years behind though
@@NonstopEurotrip yea. kinda old, but i can feel the Japanese layout such as the station design and signage, etc. very similar to Japan and looks very clean modern cool
I hope you will come to Mexico once the Maya train get finish. 1500 km of new rail roads at the mayan peninsula.
Absolutely!!!
As a Taiwanese, I am here to educate you on the three main types of trains in Taiwan, namely the New Ziqiang, Puyuma, and Taroko. You are welcome to come to Taiwan again to experience all the different transportation or different types of trains.
As mentioned in the video
welcome to TAIWAN.😊
Thanks 😊👍🏻
Just want to correct your video title in Chinese. It’s “自強特快”not “慈江特快”
Great video, my one question about business class where they have these lockable suites is what happens if there’s two of you travelling together, i.e. Mann and wife? Do you have to sit separately. There might be advantages for that for some couples but some might want to sit together. If they had a double box.
What suites?
Please cover Tejas express chair car service also in India.Much love from 🇮🇳
Next time!
Is it even possible to eliminate swaying for train rides on cape or Japan gauge?
I mean, probably not tbh!
Have you gotten a chance yet to look into riding the newest train in Holland?
Soon I will 👍🏻
Subway stations look more european i like it
Taiwan is a lovely country 👍
Absolutely!
Very nice
Plan to circle the island using this train. Does it have dining car?
This only runs on the west coast
I live in Chiayi ! Is Alishan railway will be in next video?
It won't be the next video, but it won't be too long!
@@NonstopEurotrip Can wait to see.
By the way, the section between Shizilu Railway Station and 1st Switch on the Alishan Forest Railway is expected to be restored by 2025.
Welcome back and experience the complete route at that time.
Excellent: planning for 2024. Are u planning and Q & A session (like superalbs) to answer questions? The Wroclaw review is still awaiitng... Thanks
I've done many in the past 😎
Oh I.ve missed these, so I look forward to next one Thanks@@NonstopEurotrip
Can u please put only letters on the screen (titles) without black box? Unable to see the full picture on the screen.
That's TH-cam, not me. You can change how the subtitles are displayed in the options
Both my cat and I were unpleasantly startled by the horrid door closing "chime."
Poor cat 😺
Often when very long trains only have one First Class carriage it can actually be buisier than Second Class due to First being only one carriage among 12!
And don't I know it 🥲🥲🥲
looks the train is shaking.
@@qqfill3381 as stated in the video
First thing first: Welcome to Taiwan!
Kaohsiung is a really lovely place... I which I can move there instead staying in Northern part (like Taipei, New Taipei)
The door closing sound is also used for our commute train EMU900.
Business class is not common in Taiwan Railway, as older Express train get only 1 type of seating.
People do complain about the seats being bad ergonomic design especially in normal class.
Given the price, I might choose Ho-hsin bus which features massage chair when the road traffic is low (like in mid-night etc), or HSR if I'm in a hurry
but both are not available in Eastern part, so most resource of Taiwan Railway are given to Eastern. Most of this type are serving North-Eastern now (i.e. Taipei-Hualien-Taitung)
Thanks for sharing, I'll have to try the bus next time!
Did you take the Taroko Express as well?
I did, yes!!
Can one park one's wheelchair in the coach section and hobble over to the Business Class? It would seem possible?
Yep, you certainly could!
Any links to a seat map? Does the numbering skip a number?
When you book, you can pick a specific seat off the seat map
I am a Japanese and enjoyed this video.
The interior of Taiwanese class 800 is very similar to Japanese trains.
I heard that hard and no-rotated seats of UK class 800 are order from the client (UK goverment?).
Yes, they are terrible!
Actually it's made by Hitachi(assembled in Kasado plant in Kudamatsu, Yagaguchi) and listed as a member of Hitachi's A-train family. So yes, it is a MIJ product!
@@mayoilabyrinth literally all mentioned in the video
@@mayoilabyrinth Yes, I know it.
Class 800 is the first high-speed train that Japan exported to Europe.
It was a big news in Japan.
@@JR0BAK And as a Taiwanese, I'm happy and proud that Taiwan is going to be the first country that will import and use N700S as the next generation high-speed train. Can't wait to see it in Taiwan!
150km/h for 1067mm now that's something!
Malaysia is same with 1000mm lol
@@NonstopEurotrip lol. almost forget about it but aren't they up to 160km/h?
@@nastygoyenggg in theory 180, but 140-150 normally
Queensland manages 160km/h on narrow gauge.
150KPH IS NOT HSR
Never said it was
Can you cover African railways like Mombasa? very few TH-camrs have done that☺☺
Hopefully next year!!!
期待看你介紹「台灣高鐵」！😊😊😊
Looking forward to seeing you introduce Taiwan’s high-speed rail
Not long 😀👀
@@NonstopEurotrip 3Q !（thanks）
The train looked like German ICE, I thought Japanese hsr all had very long nose
It's not a Shinkansen
I'll ride it myself to see if the hunting oscillation is really that bad. The quality of out track is not that good.
Let me know 😁
Thescenery was pretty the same
It was dark