Courtesy Rigging - easy rappel starts, easy rope pulls

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    When the anchor is back from the edge, we often have a safe staging area to start our rappel. But rope pull can be a bitch. Extend the anchor to the edge and rope pull becomes easier, but the rappel start can be a bitch. Courtesy rigging may provide the solution.
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  • @bpat13
    @bpat13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I swear I learn so much even rewatching these videos

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  • @GaryLArnell
    @GaryLArnell 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Crazy. I think I learned more in this video than any other six minutes of my life. Great explanations and great visuals. Thank you for taking the time to put these together!

    • @CanyonsCrags
      @CanyonsCrags  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are very welcome, Gary.

  • @robertloewen854
    @robertloewen854 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are sooooo right about the peace of mind seeing that rap ring over the edge! My wife and I had our rope get hung up at the top of a multi-stage waterfall rappel in the Superstitions. The ascender system I had didn't allow me to get over the overhang (going to use a frogger system now). Extending the webbing past the overhang would have meant no rope catches and no Mountain Rescue coming to get us!

  • @philwojtowicz4632
    @philwojtowicz4632 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing such a helpful and simple technique. It makes sense in soooo many situations. I've found one of the most troubling situations for new canyoneers is those awkward starts. Especially thank you for explaining things clearly and slowly.

  • @DanieleRocchi
    @DanieleRocchi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video. Thanks for taking the time and effort to create these!

    • @CanyonsCrags
      @CanyonsCrags  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I enjoy making them.

  • @TyMan970
    @TyMan970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You the man Thank you

  • @traceteboda8701
    @traceteboda8701 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!

  • @FisterDotOrg
    @FisterDotOrg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rich, you "rock". ;)

  • @WisconnyJohnny
    @WisconnyJohnny 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could used this Sunday near the dirty devil

  • @brianyohn688
    @brianyohn688 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Rich when you tied the rethreaded frost knot in this video, isn't this the same as tying an overhand on all three strands (2 from the bight plus the long tail?)

    • @CanyonsCrags
      @CanyonsCrags  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frost knot is a variation of an overhand knot. It can be tied on a bight or rethreaded. Regardless of how it is tied ... When you tie an overhand knot (or bend) be sure there are two strands of webbing everywhere. When you tie a Frost knot be sure there are three strands everywhere.

  • @Max-kw4px
    @Max-kw4px 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess another (potentially simpler?) option would be to just rig a short (temporary) anchor for everyone to rap off, then have the last person clean it and have them rap off the
    leave-behind anchor that would be long and going over the edge for an easy pull? The main advantage I see with this is that the rigging of both temporary and leave-behind anchors could be simpler: the temporary anchor would require zero knots (just a 240 or 120 dyneema sown sling), while the leave-behind anchor could just be a simple overhand or waterknot, depending on the application. I can see a lot of people making mistakes with the more complex frost knot, not doubling back correctly, etc? Just a thought, curious what you think!?

    • @Max-kw4px
      @Max-kw4px 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh, never mind, that is literally your 3rd option, I should have finished the vid before I started typing a question!! :P

  • @AskTheKid
    @AskTheKid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you tie in the end of the webbing on the last method?
    a figure 8 on a bite?

    • @CanyonsCrags
      @CanyonsCrags  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Figure eight is for rope and cord. For webbing use an overhand on a bight.

    • @AskTheKid
      @AskTheKid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanyonsCrags got it, thank you very much!

  • @Max-kw4px
    @Max-kw4px 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the pic at 1:19 I noticed that the orange biner is clipped into the webbing between the knot and the quick link, any reason not to just clip the quick link with the biner directly? If you do clip the webbing... the bight of sling is super short so I guess there is little risk of the overhand knot rotating on that bight loop in a way so that it is now being pulled on 'sideways' which I believe greatly weakens the webbing by 70% or so?

    • @CanyonsCrags
      @CanyonsCrags  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The video is only 5:57 so having a hard time finding 11:19.

    • @Max-kw4px
      @Max-kw4px 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CanyonsCrags 1:19 sorry, typo!

    • @CanyonsCrags
      @CanyonsCrags  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is a challenge to make videos that are 100% clear on every detail. In this case, the photos are not mine. I did not look closely to see what the carabiner is clipped to. Maybe it is clipped to the black webbing. Maybe directly into the rapide. I do know what my narration says - “… for everyone else in the group, the rappel ring is pulled up and clipped with a carabiner to a loop close to the anchor.” I personally always clip directly to the rappel ring.

  • @AlexKost-tq6bj
    @AlexKost-tq6bj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why not just clip a biner to the loop around the tree and clip the rapide to it (for the courtesy anchor)? The frost knot is a cool trick, but I find it's fiddly to tie and easy to make a mistake!

    • @CanyonsCrags
      @CanyonsCrags  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I showed several options. Frost knot is like any other knot. You need to practice and you should always get someone else to check that you did it correctly. Won't hurt my feelings if you prefer not to use it. Clipping directly into the loop around the tree as you suggest is possible, just be careful you don't load the knot incorrectly. AND ... some people use a form of a girth hitch around the tree (tying an overhand on a bight at one end of the webbing and passing the other end through the bight), which would make the loop dangerous to clip into.

  • @v26224
    @v26224 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can't get the audio to work at the start

    • @hamishlivo
      @hamishlivo 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      These videos are brilliant! I've learnt so much already, please keep making more

  • @adventureswithfrodo2721
    @adventureswithfrodo2721 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has a limited usage. I've done to many rappel that drop off into air, i.e. over an overhang. Guess it is why you have to be intelligent.

    • @ACAcanyoneering
      @ACAcanyoneering 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Intelligence is necessary to determine when techniques like these are appropriate and valuable and when they are not. Intelligent people have multiple tools in their toolbox.

  • @christopherlake1121
    @christopherlake1121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please always use two anchor points. Even novices at the crag understand this. I've watched a couple of your videos, and it's pretty clear you shouldn't be teaching.

    • @CanyonsCrags
      @CanyonsCrags  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion.

    • @Phoenixhunter157
      @Phoenixhunter157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CanyonsCrags 😂this is why I watch your channel . You’re a class act sir.

    • @CanyonsCrags
      @CanyonsCrags  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Phoenixhunter157 Self control has not always been a strength of mine. ;-)