Adam Schefter details why the Falcons drafted Michael Penix Jr. | NFL Live
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- Adam Schefter details why the Falcons drafted Michael Penix Jr. | NFL Live
Adam Schefter joins NFL Live to discuss why the Atlanta Falcons made the decision to draft QB Michael Penix Jr. with the No. 8 overall pick.
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Micheal pennix is an elite qb
He could be, but why did ATL pay Kirk Cousins 4 years $180 mil?? If ATL liked Penix so much, just sign Garner Minshew to a 1 year deal (have him start 2024) and then start Penix in 2025
The man is legit glass he’s going to get hit once and break.
@@zyx777zyxthat’s what they should’ve done yes. I’m mad for penix. But I bet cousins does get that soon
@@zyx777zyx I think he needs to get in NFL sit learn from a good qb for a year or two get with the nutritionist and fitness team add some muscle because he is twig and he will be good
The writing is on the wall. Blank wanted Cousins and told them pay whatever. But Terry and Morris wanted there QB.
Facts 💯
Which is exactly why those two won't be with the Falcons in 2 years.
Excellent point
Their**
@@nhd6128 and that would be better than working for the falcons
Falcons screwed the draft up lowkey it made teams rethink picks
Also allowed the bears to draft Odunze
^^^^^ exactly just made the bears really good
@@CaptainBobbysagbears should’ve grabbed Murphy or Fautanu
if they wanted a qb, it was the right decision tho. 6 qbs were taken in the first 15 picks
Threw a monkey wrench in the game fa sure
That Achilles injury probably made them question how durable Cousins may really be going forward. So just in case he injures himself even this year, they’d have somebody like Penix to step in.
Why give him 180 mil if they not sure about his durability?
Then don’t sign Kirk!!! You have medical staff that can get you to say “Sorry Kirk!”
Wrong. Even if he doesn’t injure himself, what’s their long term plan??? That’s why they drafted him. Went through THREE years of Mariota, Ridder and Heinicke. They were simply sick of that shitty QB play and needed to address that position for the future. If Kirk is playing like he has been, the Falcons aren’t picking Top 10 any time soon, so they would miss out on QBs of next years draft and possibly the year after. It’s common sense that people aren’t understanding. Get your guy while you can, don’t wait on the missed opportunity to say “we could’ve” or “we should’ve”. If he’s there, RIGHT NOW, you take him. And that’s what they did.
@@brandonrussell77the issue wasn’t drafting Penix. It was paying Kirk 180mil. And Penix is a ready now prospect.
The money they used to sign Kirk could have been used to sign a pass rusher which was there weakness last year and used to re-sign some of the young talent at there skilled positions while taking advantage of Penix being on a rookie deal.
Penix had 2 acl injuries and 4 season ending injuries out of 5 years 🤡🤡🤡
26 to 35 yeas old is a nice career as QB in the NFL.
Kirk will play for at least 3 seasons. So 27 will be starting age for Penix.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq But Penix is still under contract, correct?
@@herbtapp3031 of course. Along with Kirk Cousins for $180 million. You know, the other guy.
Signing Kirk Cousins was a mistake watch and see
24 to 35 and taking advantage of the rookie contract is smarter.
falcons should grab a back up back up qb tonight. keep the people talking about the falcons
Agreed have 7 qbs about time training camps comes around
😆
As a Bears fan, thank you for not trading out. Helped us get Rome!
That's who they should of pick but falcons are stupid that's why they suck.
@@xmobkilla9067nah a WR didn’t make sense for them. They already have Pitts, London, Bijaan and paid Darnell Mooney $39 million in FA. The clear move was D Line but went QB for some reason.
Rome wasn't built in a day
If you used Falcon logic, you would have gone QB at 1 and 9, just in case.
As a Bears fan you oughta be mad they didn’t draft a defensive or defensive lineman. A 3 technique isn’t easy to find
The Falcons saw what the Packers did to Aaron Rodgers and they were like watch what we do
Horrible comparison.. Rodgers was an established QB, SB winner, and leader of a perennially good team. GB was looking to sustain success.. The Falcons haven't sniffed success since 28-3, gave Kirk $100 mill guaranteed and didn't make the team better this year. Penix is ready to play, he doesn't need to sit & learn an NFL offense or how to study tape..
@@nhd6128That is a casual take. The Falcons were already projected to win the NFC South this season once they got Cousins and before the draft. Plus Penix has never took an NFL snap before. So there is no way you can say that he is better than Cousins
@@underdog7495cousins won't last a whole season..then what are they gonna do..issues on o-line especially needed an upgrade
Awful take. Jordan Love was way younger. Penix is great but by the time he takes over he’ll be 27 and they’ll have to pretty much get ready to either pay him or not. Pretty embarrassing decision.
@@treanderson2011 if he doesn't last then wtf you thin Penix Jr is there for lol
End of story is kirk is on essentially a 2 year deal coming off an Achilles tear
Falcons never recovers from blowing the 28-3 lead
Yes we call it “Falconing”
We shole didn't.... That been 5+ years ago but we still can't get over it😂😂😂😂
@@Keith_No_Sweat longer bro i remember i was in denver it think early 2017
It’s the curse my dude. Since that stupid 3rd down play call.
They won a playoff game the following season.. More like they haven't recovered since Matt Ryan's regression and eventual departure.
ATL either wasted 100 Million Dollars or they Wasted a #1 Draft Pick and a Rookie QB contract
Time will tell
@@jumahbrady670 no this is NOT time based if Penix is Mahomes then signing Kirk to 100 million dollar deal was a mistake if Penix is a bust then signing Kirk to 100 million dollar deal was a mistake YOU EITHER SIGN A FA QB and DRAFT STARTERS or you DRAFT A ROOKIE QB and USE THE MONEY FOR FAs to build team around him ... the mistake has happened the future doesn't matter the MISTAKE WAS EITHER SIGNING KIRK OR DRAFTING PENIX you do 1 of those things you don't do both or you're wasting LIMITED VALUABLE RESOURCES
lol Raheem saw the Jets & made the right decision, most of these fans just repeat whatever these talking heads say. Sure draft a guy sixteen teams passed up over a potential franchise QB
@@user-mp6dl7wc9zyeah the only way this isn’t a mistake is if Kirk wins a superbowl in the next couple years and Penix wins another one 6 or 7 years down the road. The odds of that happening are slim.
It's also possible that they win with both.... Deepish playoff runs w Kirk for first in his career & Penix ready at 26 to lead them to a decade of franchise QB play. That's what they are hoping for
Sometimes I wonder y some people hold these titles…I don’t care how good that defenses players that they wanted falcons to take….if the qb play ain’t right u not winning or going deep in the playoffs with the potential of winning it all….and plus u hoping that yur team has a winning record in the years that u got Kirk….so u not going to be picking this high no more…so take the qb of the future….and u can always find a pass rusher…but wats hard to find is a good QB…and people always complain about not giving these QBs time to grow….now the falcon is in a perfect position….to try a good go with Kirk while letting dude learn for at least a year…now in that year if he really shows progress then I’m sure the falcons will be happy to eat cap hit…cause they legit have good talent…draft the pass rusher in the second round…and plus falcons potentially stopped raiders from getting the qb they needed…forced them to get the best player available
The best player available was a QB. You dont draft a guy thats 20th on your big board and not draft a guy that 3rd on your board. Age isn't as important at QB. And if you see yourself a QB you like then you go get them.
He’s probably the best quarterback in the draft. Great move by the falcons. The big joke is maye going to patriots with the third pick.
Facts 💯💯if the patriots were smart they would’ve took Penix Jr!
Penix is not the best. He’s the glass man. He’s going to get hit once and he’s gonna get hurt 🤣🤣 Michigan banged him up badly and proved he’s not durable
@@Jrm-xs9qi you can’t predict injuries bro
@@ONGEES I don’t need to predict when he’s already had 3 career ending injuries🤣🤣🤣
@@Jrm-xs9qi How is it career ending if he's still playing 😕?
i feel like the conversation should totally be centered around why keep kirk cousins or why give him a 4 year term. taking penix seems like a great move regardless of whos there because hes that good of a prospect.
It’s a 2 year contract lol
Great move. Hopefully every team but mine makes moves so great.
Bingo @@Josh-st6ov
just read a comment by "@Sho-nuff427" saying the owner wanted Cousins for whatever price but the coaches wanted Penix.
stop comparing a 21 year old Jordan Love sitting to a player who will be 24 next month, it's a difference and just like Mena said if he hypothetically plays 2 years from now, they will have a deadcap hit and will already be 2 years behind in his rookie deal. It was a bad pick because of what you paid Kirk a month ago, I like Penix but ATL is trippin on this one
Marcus said it perfectly. Penix’s talent isn’t the issue, which outside of injuries makes him easily a top 3-4 QB. It’s how much they just paid Cousins. If they were going to use the 8th pick for a QB, the should have found a cheaper bridge QB, or gotten a younger project QB like Justin Fields, Mac Jones, or Zac Wilson as competition or a backup role for a cheap 6th rounder.
A rookie pash rusher is never the answer. Falcons history alone has shown that.
I would bet and say Kirk will play 1yr max if that. Falcons just changed their mind and that’s fine! Penix is the 2nd best QB in this draft and more teams were interested in HIM than the media displayed. Great pick falcons.
Penix is not the best. He’s the glass man. He’s going to get hit once and he’s gonna get hurt 🤣🤣 Michigan banged him up badly and proved he’s not durable
@@Jrm-xs9qi your guy Kirk is getting replaced. Deal with it
@@MerchandiseRichTV falcons aren’t my team… my boy is McCarthy and Michigan who broke penix in the title game and made him cry like a little boy and got him limping off the field
@@Jrm-xs9qi well, that’s what’s up. Penix was drafted before. So at least he can say that.
In 4 years when Penix is a top 10 qb for the next ten years nobody will caee
Cousin informed the falcons he wants to be trade back to the Vikings 😂😂😂😂
We good here in minnesota, falcons can keep em
@@sethfelt8768 with JJ it will be a long road before you get to the promise land buddy.
@@YohanArias809 only a few months
Yes Atlanta it's buzzing loud!!.. this is the talk of the NFL off-season 🤔💯
They BEEN the talk of the whole off-season....starting with firing Arthur Smith and the Billichek rumors
The worst teams always got the headlines in the sport media during in the off season. In this case, It's the Falcons as a comparison to the Cowgirls always do. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@FTNS743 its still better than NOT being talked about at all....
I’m glad we picked Penix. Kirk was never the answer. 50 mill get you a mid QB.. 0:47
What makes you think Penix is the answer? We’ll see
@@LateNightDateNight I knew kirk was not the answer. He has never been an answer he has always just been stability at the position and he has got paid the entire time .. QBs always get paid and that’s cool.. you are right we will see what Penix does and I hope he is the answer. 😊 rise up 🦅
The atlanta falcons want penix as their future qb....whats fhe problem
FACTS !!!!!!
@@DiandreGrantJrlmao so pay Cousins $180 million.
@@Michael-ir8zsthey don't think he would play out contract
Hes 24 alrdy lmao
@@jameshollister8294 $100 million of it is guaranteed. So the Falcons are either sitting Penix until he's 27 or 28 or they are paying $100 million to a guy who won't be playing.
Mina schooling Dan always makes my day.
Dan forgot to remind himself that he's the 0-16 Lions Q.B. running back in the endzone trying to throw a pass. 🤣
This is a smart move for Atlanta. I don't care what anyone says. We going to BALL OUT with Penix Jr, Bijan, Pitts and London
I ain’t gonna lie… what Ryan Clark have on is fly..
Nah, not flashy enough.
@@MisterMxyzptlk1972 i would rock that fr fr…. Get it tailored n everything lol
@@terryallenthinks9421 Picture it without the gold jewelry... yeeeeshh. To each their own though eh?
@@MisterMxyzptlk1972 I ain’t even looking at the jewelry…. The suit jacket the way african/Asian type cut…. The vest like suit combined with the shimmer is fly as well….
It was well made ….
@@terryallenthinks9421 Fits well, made well, horrid color.
Penix is gonna be elite. Love the player and the man off the field. But yes everyone’s in agreement, that was odd .
How old was kurt warner?
how many torn ACL’s and torn shoulders did kurt have before he started?
whys noone saying that they are just tryna not make the jets mistake.. kirk coming off an acl injury he can easily get reinjurned so they have a back up that they believe in 🤷🏻♂️
It was an achilles injury
Cousins is the bridge QB.
This is why "Best Player Available" isn't always the best move. I get that Penix was the top player left on their board. At the same time, if everything goes as planned, you have a Top 10 pick who isn't going to play a down for you for at least 2 years. Top 10 picks should be your impact players and isn't something you give away easily. I mean, Rome Odunze was there, someone I think Kirk Cousins would have loved to have. Latu was there, who could have helped that pass rush.
Pennix Jr. to ATL was a GREAT Pick. Kirk Cousins 37 with ONE Playoff win. No one else is complaining except ESPN "Analysis" who's been terrible at this for 20 years. ATL right now has the best QB Corps in The NFL.
So why give him 4 years $180 million when he’s a 37 year old QB with one playoff win in the first place????
@@trumptouchesivanka ATL signed Kirk before the Draft. Why? Kirk ain't no punk. Mike Pennix Jr. was suppose to go in the Top 3. No one expected him to drop to 8. Analysts are making a big deal outta doing. And for the record : I'M RAIDERNATI💀N ! We hoped Pennix slid down to 13. dam.
Who cares what Cousins thinks? He got a fat contract and will come out ahead. Who knows how well Penix will do? But how Cousins feels about the pick shouldn't matter. If Penix turns out to give them 5-10 good years, it was well worth it.
Lol they put pressure on Kirk before OTAs even start. Every interception, missed throw, bad sack taken, last drive failure will be magnified closely.
People say why didn't they trade back? The Raiders were gonna take him
Haunted by the fact that when they moved on from Matt Ryan, they "never had a quarterback to step in"? He's been gone two years.
Ridder/Mariota were reeaaaaalllly bad
Half the league has a bad QB every year. Sometimes worse.
I think a point they all totally missed was that they could have drafted odunze to play across from drake london. And let the 2 midgets play 3rd wr ..darnell mooney and rondale moore. They did invest in the defense with trice, ruke ororho, and brandon dorlus with later picks. Getting odunze instead of the 1st def end off the board (because you felt the def ends did not warrant a high pick)..but at least getting odunze spells out we want to win now. At the very least they could have somewhatjustified the penix pick if they moved back and gained extra picks. But penix still doesnt make a lot of sense from a timeline aspect with the kirk signing.
Why did we sign Cousins! Dammit!!
The falcon way
Bcuz he'll lead you to the POs, in '24-25 ... the rookie can sit back and learn, and no team ever complained about a good QB room
Because we can win our division with Cousins.
Lol all it takes is 1 injury to Cousins for this pick to look good
That part
Terry is so good at keeping his picks a secret he will always fool the nfl and the fans they didn’t tell Kirk because he would have tip the league off
Mina times saying "pink elephant" was such a killer line lmao. I'm sorry, idk whocthe dude in pink is, but that was ballgame lol.
After last year, everybody should understand that one qb is not enough. Especially when that one qb is coming off of an ACL.
If you need a pass rusher and the best one is at 20 and on your board, you trade back and accumulate more picks.
I love the Penix pick. It’s a QB driven league folks.
It doesn’t make any sense at all because why would you do that because Kirk cousins always gonna believe that somebody’s gonna be over his shoulder all the time and Michael pennants and Michael pennants is 24 years old so that doesn’t make any sense so you gonna let them sit for two years I highly doubt it so if cousins doesn’t do well this year, it’s basically a one and done deal and then he’ll be gone or he’ll end up asking for a trade at the end of this year or after 2024 it really doesn’t make any sense what the Falcons did there I would’ve had more protection for himand Taylor on the roster that would’ve been the smart play
Penix will start at some point this year. QB controversy will destroy that locker room. They need to find a way to move Kirk to Raiders
Dan stressing JD as the best qb in the draft
them saying the Falcons didn't get pass rush help is disingenuous, they only drafted 3dts , edge rusher and LB. but sure lets overdraft one at 8 just because that what's on your mock.
All the NFL Pundits forget Wash drafted Cousins when there starting QB was RGIII
It’s where they took after signing somebody like Cousins, also the serious injury history.
I appreciate the Falcons for shooting their shot on Penix, and taking him off the board at 8, so we could take the best player available in Brock Bowers at 13. I was never fully sold on Penix that early, anyway.
Huh???
I love the pick what troubles me is doing it after giving 100m guaranteed to a qb
Dan is speaking big facts.
You act as if DAN was a great Q.B. and an analyst when he's the one with 0-16 Lions 2006, running back in the endzone trying to throw a pass. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The reason they took Penix Jr was so that other teams in their division couldn’t draft him.
Falcons decision was correct. The Falcons will not be selecting so low again. They will be a high win team.
I don’t have a problem w/ the Falcons drafting MPJ. They know that they won’t have another top 10 pick for awhile, which means they won’t be in position to draft another QB of MPJ’s caliber, so they went ahead & drafted their future QB & he can learn from Kirk like Mahomes learned from Smith.
& let’s not act like K. Cousins is a top tier QB.
He’s ok, but he’s older, he hasn’t won in the playoffs, & his contract is only guaranteed in the 1st 2 years. If he isn’t getting it done by the time his 2nd year is done, get him outta there & focus on the future.
Cousins probably feels disgusted because the Falcons drafted his backup but anyways if Cousins is the starter in Atlanta here are his stats in 2024
5,600 yards
45 TD
5 INT
120.0 Rating
7-10 record
I think pennix Jr was 2nd best QB in the draft besides Jalen Daniels
ESPN needs to get away from unqualified people talking football
Thanks you Falcons. Help my lions get the #1 DB in the draft.
They asked Ryan Pace his thoughts on Penix "I have no opinion honestly"
They Drafted A Highly Rated QB For The Future Because The QB They Signed In Kirk Cousins Can Help Them Win Right Now And The Team With A Kirk Cousins Type QB Can Do Just That , And Help Develop The Young Stars They Have In Mooney , London , Robinson And Pitts .. The Falcons Did Not Want Another Matt Ryan Situation Not Having A QB For The Future And Can Not Afford To Keep Picking Developmentally Type QBs Like Ridder Or Fill Ins Like Mariota With These Type Of Pieces Surrounding Them , By Time Penix Gets The Starting Job The Weapons Around Him Will Be Way Better And He’ll Had Time To Develop … Great Pick 👍🏿
They paid Kirk cousins $90m just to be a smoke screen lol
These analyst cap so much when they say it hasn’t happen before. It literally happened with Aaron Rodgers
Dude i'm sorry but what value does Mina Kimes bring? I genuinely wonder why she is on tv constantly.
Because she’s a babe.
@thetaterking2314 because of the simps on social media and the comment section who has never been or even touch a attractive female is why the beta male simps are going crazy desperate and thirsty real men alpha men don’t have to simp or be thirsty for a female because that guy is confident in himself because the gorgeous women are coming to him that’s a fact🤣🤣🤣💯
All the NFL Pundits forget Wash drafted Cousins when there starting QB was RGIII
Double Standards
They talking like a mf was gone come un a produce 15 sacks his 1st year
Raheem Morris lost his TB HC job because he tried being HC and DC at the same time. Dont blame Josh Freeman. Josh Freeman had the skills, but lacked the maturity needed to be QB1.
4 teams tried to trade up to get Penix. Trading down would not have worked. At 27, there are QBs that play into their 40s. Suppose he only gets you to three super bowls in ten years. Bad pick? Steve Young, Aaron Rogers, and Cousins himself are examples of good backups that turned out to be good decisions. Cousins has not done well in the playoffs. It's not a bad move.
If they were gonna do everything to how Ryan Clark said they would, why wouldn’t they draft JJ McCarthy the guy who’s 21 years old and who has a lot of talent but needs to sit and develop. Why go for Michael Penix Jr who is already fully developed and is 24 years old?
Hopefully he takes number 15....... Aka pen15
So Pennix would also be a 1 round pick trade value if he just wasn't happy sitting. TF made a good choice.
Cousins coming off surgery and an OG! This will work out eventually but 💰
Alot of people miss the nfc South is not that good and the Qb they have suck young,carr, Mayfield
Dan just gotta be different for the attention always
Kirk made sure his money was fully guaranteed. But forgot to add a no trade clause 😂
If Atlanta had of drafted McCarthy, or Bo Nix… I promise they wouldn’t have said 💩!! SOUNDS LIKE SOME HATERS TO ME!! 🤦🏾♂️
All I will say to Falcons fans is keep these receipts.
Dan Orlovsky doesn’t understand how drafting works…best rated player at a position of need available…you should probably take them. How many franchise quarterbacks does a team need during a window in which they want to sniff the playoffs?
Dan....they need pass rusher sure. They didnt jave to draft them at 8. They could've went bowers. They could've grabbed rome. Maybe quinyon. Anywhere else essentially. It was a dumb pick. And it doesnt have a good justification. I like what ryan said. This was a trauma move. That explains it pretty nicely.
I fast forward through nearly every word Nina Khines says every single time
Y’all crazy. He’s athletic but doesn’t get the penetration pass rushers should.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Why the falcons didnt draft defense is wild😮😮😮😮
Mina is Wrong
Yo.. did you know!!!
All the NFL Pundits forgot Wash drafted Cousins when there starting QB was RGIII
Double Standards
She really thinks that Dallas Turner or Latu would secure the NFC South for the Falcons whew 😂😂😂
Bishop Ryan H. Clark 😂
People are acting like ATL just used tax payers $ . Lol who gives af! Kirk has no reason to complain. He’s crippled with no SB rings and still signed 100mil. He won that deal
Mina,
You may never know what is going to happen this fall.
This is the kind of decision that gets GMs and coaches fired.
They just didn’t thing they were gonna get a good QB in the draft. So they signed cousins to fast out of desperation without thinking and was surprised Penix was available and took it that’s what happened 🤭
Why Don’t Sports Pundit Do Any Research!!!!!
Yo.. did you know!!!
All the NFL Pundits forgot Wash drafted Cousins when there starting QB was RGIII
Double Standards
RG3 and Cousins were drafted in the same year, Cousins was drafted in the 4th round (Not much money 4 years for $2,572,688 with only $472,000 guaranteed) RG3 was always going to be the starter. Penix Jr was drafted in the first round 8th overall, after they just signed Cousins to a 4yr $180 mil and $140 mil guaranteed and a no trade clause. Penix Jr's contact will most likely pay him between 10-13 mil per year for the next 4 yrs. It's not about double standards it's about making sense on drafting a QB in the first round when you just paid a QB.
It was the decsion think if kirk cousin do wat he supposed to do we want be picking top 10 anyway
What if Cousins is product of Coach O’Connell and JJ?
I think the Falcons should be forced to ride little buses to the field. Secret Base needs to do another chapter to their Falcons episode just to cover this.
Gonna bookmark this vid. Hoping they prove Mina wrong.
Chris Weinke was like 28
Because Kirk cousins is 35 years old coming off a major leg injury in November?
Somebody posted "Spence Rattler is in play for Atlanta with their 43 2nd round pick for the post Penix era".