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Hey guys, when I was shopping for a used Volvo S60, I could not really find detailed information about what costs I could expect for both normal maintenance and some surprise maintenance costs. So now that I've owned my 2013 Volvo S60 T6 R-Design, I'm making that video in the hopes it will help others with making their decision.
A couple points, luxury cars are expensive, but from what I've gathered, Volvo is one of the "lesser" expensive options. My personal opinion is to never finance a luxury car. Buy used, pay cash, and then decide between paying up front for an Extended Warranty Plan, or set the cash aside for emergency repairs and normal maintenance items like brakes, tires, etc.
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A retired Master Tech here, Change oil 5k, drive at least 20 min on interstate once a week to burn off sludge producing moisture inside engine, transmission and differentials change at 30k, coolant every 3 years only use distilled water in cooling system, tap water has minerals your body needs but is harmful to metals and seals in your engine, timing belt 70k, flush brake fluid every two years, flush engine every year as sludge causing moisture can collect in piston rings causing oil consumption, see driving interstate above to further help, PCV inspected every year, neglecting this can cause expensive engine seals to leak or blow out, drive belt inspection every six months, normally last very long but debris can be thrown into system and damage belt, double platinum OE or OEM spark plugs 100k, Don't buy highest mileage tires, they last over 6 years but lose wet traction and become hard giving harsh ride by year four. Keep windshield wipers fresh, old wipers get hard and leave fine wiper marks in glass making it hard to see at night from light glare the wiper track is hard to see but if light shines just right it easy to see. Use windshield washer fluid with distilled water only, tap water clogs washer pump and washer nozzles. Use OE or OEM parts, never buy parts from local auto parts as they do not last as long and can cause worse problems leading to unwanted extra expenses. Check oil, fluids, and tire pressure including spare once a week. If your car sits for a week or longer get a battery maintainer, todays electronics never fully turn off and will deplete your battery. Power steering is easy to change, but the reservoir has a filter that needs cleaned too, Make your car last past it's warranty expiration date. The idea that a luxury car costs more to maintain is a myth, cheaper car repairs are cheaper but more frequent than better built cars so cheaper cars actually cost more in the long run. Problem is, most neglect those repairs, why they're so cheap used. I bought a beautiful car for my teen, repairs to get car back to factory level cost more than i paid for car despite being a 50k mile car. Good video, thanks David.
Most useful and underrated comment I've read in a long time.
I had a the same car, most reliable car i ever had and I’m in college 22. Don’t really know anything about cars. All i did was oil change. Had for 5yrs bought at 92k miles
Hey guys, doing a little "Something Different" series video while I get my next Watch Review video recorded and edited. I hope this helps someone out there that is shopping or considering buying a used Volvo, as this would give an idea of what to possibly expect. This is just my own personal experience though, so keep that in mind! What is the most you've spent on a used vehicle repair?
This was so helpful! Thank you so much for doing it and for sharing actual costs.
You’re welcome, I am glad to hear it was helpful for you! Cheers! 😎🍻👍
That little guy to the left getting more air time. Love it.
Lol may need to start his own channel someday 😋
Good advice. Thank you.
I believe the best way to divert from costly age related repairs, is to first obtain as young as possibly affordable example.
Most Volvos are 56% their retail as new used.
Next, a trusted mechanic fluent in "Volvo speak" in mechanics. Someone at least as passionate as the owner.
Research Volvo weaknesses prior to purchase, preferably by owners logs. See if callbacks, if any are discovered?
Lastly, stay ahead of any maintenance issues that may arise? Don't let anything Fester!
I'm on my 2nd S60R and I have been enjoying ownership. I was fortunate to grab the 2nd R just a few thousand miles off warranty.
Very thankful for the video. As a Volvo owner I'm sure I'll be paying similar prices for some of the services you mentioned. So far I've been able to DIY some of this. Might let a pro do the AC work and suspension/alignments when the time comes, but otherwise I'd like to think I can handle most things even if it takes me hours longer than a shop.
I’m glad the video was helpful! I know some disagree with me paying the dealer for simple things, and I’m pretty sure after my extended warranty ends I’ll likely do as much to the car that I can since maintenance records won’t be as important then. I say do what you can and save that money and leave the complex stuff for the pros, can’t go wrong there! Enjoy your volvo and thanks for the comment to share your thoughts! 😎🍻👍
I enjoyed this video. Interesting how much maintenance is on this car. Makes me appreciate mine more. Oil changes are only 40 for me. I was shocked by the prices of brakes as well. I had upgraded rotors and pads installed for 1000 all the way around. 575 for rears sounded high. I too have the electronic brake that needs a computer to release the pads from the rotors. Very informative man. Just letting you know that if you buy certain luxury brands that are pretty much it’s cheaper cousin, your paying less because it has it’s cousins parts. Just food for thought.
Avg. Joe Watch Reviews indeed! I don’t think I’d buy another used volvo, tbh. The maintenance is night and day in comparison to my Lexus, or even my last Camry, so it definitely speaks volumes in terms of reliability and cost compared to other brands out there! Thanks for checking out my off topic vid bro! 😎👍
David Schwartz Lexus will be the next car I get after then Linc. May be sooner than expected since the Linc has bugs that are driving me batty.
Avg. Joe Watch Reviews yeah man, you won’t regret it that’s for sure! 😎🍻
I'm considering a s60 t6 at the moment and transitioning from a Subaru I expected a cost change but it was nice to get actual numbers not vague estimates thank,👍👍
It’s 2024 , you video had helpful points in my decision for a future purchase. Thanks 😮
You’d save so much money by doing your own oil and oil filter change. The tune ~$500 tune up could have also been done on your own. Even though I’m moderately handy with a wrench there are some jobs I wouldn’t tackle on my own. Suspension work and transmission work for example
Yeah for sure, I don’t know if I’ll ever get to the point of doing my own oil changes though unless I absolutely had to. I personally hate doing them with having to store/dispose of the oil. I like the convenience of just dropping it off at the shop, which I know comes at a premium, but from a cost perspective it’s definitely cheaper to do them at home. The air/engine filter changes and front brakes I’ll definitely keep doing though for that small savings there. 😎👍
bought my 2016 S60 with 30k on it. I had to get two repairs done. The start/stop needed a part replaced which was under warranty and the other I had to pay 600 for. So far it's running solid. I really like the car nd was looking into their SUVs but heard they have issues. I think I will go for a Japanese brand next purchase because reliability is important for me.
I’ll just buy mine 2013 t6 130k Look very good I will see what’s gonna happen in future thanks for video
Awesome, glad my vid came in handy! Enjoy your 2013 T6! 🚗 💨 👍
1st comment the internet is mine . Lovely car mate that’s one brand of vehicle I’ve never owned or driven. Very interesting vid
Hey mate! You win again! lol
Yeah this was a first for me as well so I figured I'd share the cost breakdown for anyone out there on the fence. Its not a cheap car, but its been a lot of fun and I feel that if you take care of the car it will take care of you. Thanks for checking out the vid! ^_^
Bought a 2011 s60 about 8 years ago and the only thing I’ve had to replace was an alternator. Has 185k miles now and runs like new.
I put a new battery in myself. Took me ten minutes. cost me half that. I change my own oil, I catch penzoil ultra platinum on amazon when they rotate it on sale, 25 bucks for a 5 quart, get a bottle of shaeffers moly to round it out. 13 bucks a good filter, wix or k&n 10 bucks. Thats an oil change. I spent about 1100 and koni special active shocks all around with H&R lowering springs. spent a few hundred replacing all my brakes and rotors with performance for about 500.. Did the timing belt water pump and all the belts and pulleys at once. I even replaced the bearings in the AC compressor pulley and the alternator, I didn't do the power steering pump though. 400 or so on the belt job, but then also I had to buy the cam tool for another 130. That is an advanced job I wouldn't recommend for most people. I had to shim my AC compressor clutch, replace inside and outside air filters, clean my inside ac coil, it started smelling like dirty socks, they sell a kit of foaming cleaner with a long hose, easy fix. I replaced the PCV oil filter housing, I got an aftermarket box without the bolt holes tapped, did it myself only cost me like 80. replaced spark plugs myself, best plugs I could find are 12 a piece. The only job that took me longer then 2 hours was the suspension and the timing belts. But I took my time anyways on most of that because I didn't have shit else going on the last two years. Some things I would need a tool and order if next morning delivery and stop working, but actual work time not long. Oh and I replaced my TCV turbo control valve. kinda easy to do, definately needed to be replaced, they go bad and your turbo won't kick in. they are like 90 bucks.. they go bad around 80k miles. cleaned my throttle body several times, that shit gets nasty quick, The next thing I plan on doing is sway bar bushings and then an oil catch can. I'vr been looking for a light leather interior front and rear seats but no luck, mine are canvas and are in ok shape, just want the upgrade.
Thanks for putting this video together! I am considering getting a used 2019 S60 r-design and have been looking for realistic insight on the maintenance of a Volvo. In comparison to a Honda Civic I knew there would be an increase but this was very helpful in seeing how costly a luxury vehicle can be. Also, do you have any thoughts on the latest S60s?
Thanks! I am glad it gives some real world perspective. Lots of vids I would come across are rather vague so at least I can share my own personal experience. Those new S60s are gorgeous! I haven't driven one myself, but seen many review vids of them and while I wasn't initially a fan of twin charged engines, it seems like Volvo did a good job giving a good balance between performance and fuel economy. I really like those polestar versions haha, but they went so quick and only options were to lease which I'm not a fan of. I love the HUD on the dash option, thor headlights and that the new S60s are bigger. My main complaint on mine is the lack of back seat room and trunk space. Just a few thoughts I have to contribute! Cheers! 😎🍻👍
Thanks man. Looking at the T5 models but everyone loving the T6 engines ... She just wants better mileage.
I love your video! Thank you for making it. I have a question though. You seem like you spoke as a somewhat handyman why didn't you do oil changes yourself? Would have saved you about a hundred bucks each oil change.
Have you heard of FCP Euro lifetime warranty on all parts as long as you own the vehicle. That’s even on oil changes.
I honestly think you could have saved a lot without going to a dealership, but nonetheless, good video!
Eh, being a 2012 s60 t6 slave myself, the indi shops are not much diff and lack the vida/dice scan tool and proprietary knowledge and tools to perform alot of work needed. I miss 1980's volvo.
I'm also a slave to this P.O.S but they have lifetime warranty on repairs!
I bought a 2012 s60 t5 with 67k miles about a year ago. It now has over 85k mike's. At first I loved it. I want to still love it because it's fun to drive. Surprised me at first on how much speed the turbo had. Since buying it, I have put way more into it to keep it running than paying on it. Right now, it's sitting in the shop. Last week had a head gasket replacement and now it's suffering huge oil loss. First thing was coils, plugs, water pump and pcv housing. Then starter. Then head gasket. Now head gasket. Tomorrow who the heck knows 🤷🏻♂️. I know it will need shocks soon. If you guys on here love them let me know and ill give you a great deal.
you got the headgasket replaced and NOW its leaking oil? who did it a chimp?
The T5 had oil consumption issues in that year and some of the 2013 T5. Google it.
We just got our 2018 S60 T5 AWD 16,000 miles with Polestar, its not a T6 or have the Sport Package as it is my wife's car. She traded her 2013 S60 T5 AWD with 23,450 miles. So far its all good. Our 6 or 7th Volvo since 1975.
Ya I just got a xc60 t6 handed to me I just have to fix a few things it is pretty quick still needs a bit more but I like it nuf that I would buy another Volvo thinking once I trade my hybrid in
I own a 15’ S60 T6 R-Design Platinum and its been extremely reliable i’ve been daily driving it for about a year and it’s tuned, lowered, has exhaust work and getting lots of cosmetic mods these are really good videos if taken care of
does the 15 models have any issues ? im looking at one
@@daniel-xi3nj it really just depends on the previous owners and how they took care of them! The previous owner on mine had probably not cared and my engine did get a knock after i was going a bit fast and my starter and alternator blew but it got replaced and havent had no issues so far! My instagram is @geras_s60rd and i follow lots of people who race/modify their volvos and theyve had no real issues at all!
@@tornadoboyy469 ok I've been looking at subaru and volvo I want an awd sedan
@@daniel-xi3nj subarus are great i was between an sti and the volvo but in reality subarus are kinda all over the place and i wanted something unique theres really almost no one modifying volvos
@@tornadoboyy469 yea I'm not looking to modify just looking for something fun to drive
Thank you for this video! I’m a single woman and needed to know if I could handle the cost of a Volvo.
Mobil 1 oil full synthetic for 1 year or 20 k miles at Walmart cost 28 for 5 quarts and 2 1 quarter they cost like 7,8$ a piece , the k&n filter at Walmart cost7 dollars, and is better than the oem . 55 $ if you do it yourself with the best oil and filter , 75 if you pay a shop to do it . ( don’t do your oil change at Walmart).
I got the battery at interstate battery,7 years warranty for 168$ .
Volvos are great if you live in Europe, there's no issue with spare parts or mechanics. Owning European cars in America is always more expensive, especially if you drive something really rare like a Volvo.
They're not "rare" where I am. And there are a good amount of mechanics that work on Volvos where I am. I own a Volvo.
Hey David, it looks like we not only have similar tastes in watches but in car brands as well. I own a 2010 Volvo XC60 (bought it brand new) and (you know what?) in those 10 years I never had a single problem with it.Just my luck I guess. Tell me something--if you don't mind of course--do you use a premium fuel for your S60 as recommended by Volvo, or just regular gas?
Hey David, it looks like we have similar tastes not only in watches, but also in car brands. I bought a brand new XC60 back in 2010 and since then had absolutely no trouble with it whatsoever. Would you mind telling me if you use a premium fuel for your S60 as recommended by Volvo or just regular gas? Stay safe and healthy.
Hey man! Awesome we share similar taste for sure! My wife and I have been considering an XC60 also, it’s a great SUV, probably the safest one I’ve seen in performance of rollovers and small overlap collisions (2018 model). I think if I had owned this S60 new it would be like yours, no issues, but it’s clear the prior owner didn’t maintain it well 😬 For gas I use premium fuel. I know the engine will run on unleaded no problem but I want to put the best quality gas in the car. If money got tight I’d have no problem switching to regular unleaded though. Cheers man! Enjoy that XC60 and stay safe too friend!
You really got ripped off for spark plugs, parts and labour. But thank you for doing this in such detail and transparency.
#1 you're taking it to the dealership??
You can change the oil yourself for $40 max and 20 minutes not your time
$90 for the correct oil and filter to be exact. And no, a s60 oil change can not be done in 20 min, lol. You also need a scan too to reset the service interval. Own a 2012 s60 T6 with 227k. Done this many times. Hate my car .
@@chrisdigital that bodes well for my future purchase lmao
If you don't wrench yourself, don't buy a high mileage used.
You can change your own brakes, but you pay someone to change your oil? You could have saved a lot by doing it yourself
They are great cars
I take my Volvo only to a local independent Volvo specialist, who ONLY services Volvos. Prices are good, service is great. Yes, it's more than a cheap Japanese or American car, but it's worth it. The parts cost generally more because they're quality European parts, German, Swedish, whatnot. (mechanic gave me option to get cheap parts, I said no, use the quality parts).
Where are you located? Prices seem high.
My car is older, 2006 S60. Been rock solid and reliable for me so far.
Hi Frejborg! That is awesome that you have a local specialist you can go to in your area! I agree with you on refusing cheaper parts, its always best to put in the best you can afford, especially for something we rely so heavily on day to day. I'm in Texas. Pricing is higher for sure, but one thing that the Volvo dealer does is that when you replace parts that are not normal wear and tear, they have a lifetime warranty as long as I remain the owner for that vehicle. Great peace of mind in case any issues arise down the road. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences, much appreciated! 😎🍻👍
@@DavidSchwartzjr Oh, nice! That sounds like a great guarantee. I hope I can afford a new 3rd gen S60 soon. :) Love them!
Yes I’ve become a huge fan of Volvo! The new polestar is amazing! 😍
Cheap parts don't work. I have an s80 that needed a mass air sensor. The mechanic put in a cheap one. The car after kicking down to accelerate the shook and it freaked me out. Then after turning the car off to restart it, the car would start and immediately die. The mechanic said it was the cheap sensor and they replaced it and only charged me for the upgrade to the better one. Cheap stuff usually just doesn't work and can harm other components and sometimes be even dangerous.
Very illuminating video. Some fairly hefty costs there my friend. I've considered buying a Volvo S6 myself but this has definitely put me off. A beautiful car though. One I understand to be super safe and super comfortable too. Safe driving. JP. The old guy.
Hey JP! Thanks for checking out the vid. Yeah, I'd hate to steer anyone away from this R-design model in particular because it offers so much in terms of performance and safety/features, but I wanted to share at least what the cost has been for me over time. I think after my time with this one is up, I'll likely go back to Toyota for a daily car, perhaps a TRD Avalon. Cheers, sir! :)
I'm surprised your maintenance is so high on a 2013. my 2010 s80 t6 AWD in 4 years and 52k miles has only cost me $280 in oil chages, $950 for a set of tires, $1025 for a full set of new pads and rotors, and $1750 for timing belt, water pump, belt tensioner, and idler pullies. the car is currently at 156,400 miles. I would definitely bet the original owner didn't do jack squat in the maintenance department aside from oil changes.
Yeah you might be right on that one. I’m currently at 105k. Going to be hitting my extended warranty at around 125k. Plans will be to sell this one and replace with one of the newer Toyota TRD Avalons. I gotta go for reliability now, as much as I enjoy zipping around in the R design.
In December 2020 my Dad picked up a 2012 Volvo V60 T6 R-Design. Its been running really nice so far. I watched this video just to see what other people might have experienced. I was quite surprised when I heard all the things that you had to replace. But my Dads car only has 94,000 km's on it, so it might be to to come. Hopefully not though.
I am thinking about buying one. How much is yours
@@eliliu4621 It was about 21k but I live in New Zealand so price could be different.
@@carter3475I'm from NZ too. How's the car been going?
@Jono Lim No problems at all. It's also been tuned for a few months and now has 390bhp.
What's a good cost-value combo to replace the springs and suspension. It has OEM and I am not impressed. Thx
Transmission fluid change ( never flush) 198 $ with oem fluid .
Spark plugs I did it myself 6 denso iridium 30$ . ( Volvo use Bosch or denso as oem parts , I like denso better.
Damn that’s a lot of dough good thing you save on your watches! 😉
juice01 lmao! Bruh...”hey why don’t you own any luxury watches?”
Me: “I own a Volvo...😐”
David Schwartz lol!
Should I get a dealer warranty for my volvo S60 2019? I haven't been driving it much, mileage is close to 4000 miles. The cost for warranty is a little over $4000 according a dealership.
I have a 2011 S60 T6 with the Polestar tune, have had it for a little over a year now and just passed it's 240k km service. So far it's been solid, only issue that's come up outside of regular maintenance was the AOC pump for the Haldex AWD unit failed, Volvo quoted $950 CAD to replace it, did it myself for $300 and an afternoon underneath the car lol.
I’m looking to buy a 2012 R-Design with 133,000 miles or 214k km. Do you think it’s a good car still?
@@michaelmurphy4574 fuck yeah bud
@@michaelmurphy4574 T6 is the way to go and avoid the T5 2012-13. Those have the oil consumption issues.
@@airlinename2614how about t4? So is the best is t6 even most drink much fuel consumption? How about burning oil this model? Nothing? And how about transmission durability? Should u change the oil? On what kilometers?
The disadvantages of owning a Volvo in America. The parts and servicing prices in the UK are less than half the price of what you stated here. You see a volvo maybe 1 in every 10 cars here, so popular and cheap to run, and 90% are diesels... Why so expensive in the USA?
Sorry to tell you but the dealers been ripping you off
I am in love with the 2015 v60 r design. It has 108k miles on it. Three previous owners. My mechanic stated that of you get it, it will only make me richer.
Lol he is absolutely right. But I too understand the love behind the car. I finally sold my S60 RD, too many repairs since I posted this video. Got a 2018 Lexus RX F Sport instead and while I miss the good times with the Volvo. My bank account and my peace of mind have been great 👍
@@DavidSchwartzjr 😅🤣😅🤣😅 The bank account wins all the time. Thank you for the response.
LMFAO your mechanic will get richer for sure
Hi David, thanks for sharing... I heard you said best to replace the gearbox fluid before 80k ( 8:47 ), is it 80k km or 80k miles?
Hey there! It's been many years since I posted this video so I'm trying to recall the information. So I can say that anything I was looking at or talking about for the S60 would have been in miles not kilometers. There is lot of speculation out there on the forums about when to replace the fluid if at all. I just remember being told that 70,000-80,000 (miles) was that turning point of if you're going to do it. I would reach out to a few various volvo service shops and ask them to get a few opinions before doing the work in case any information has changed since I recorded this video. Cheers!
Came for Volvo info, stayed for little gray pup
Thanks so much foir the video. Very helpful
I amanticipating buying a 2013 Volvo S60 T4 Essential Powershift. it kind of 154000 KM Mileage and being charged $7500. I am in South Africa and mechanics I think may be rare. Any thoughts if that's a goog move?
I’m not too familiar with that version and engine but I believe the in line 5 cyl engines have a timing belt, the one I had was a timing chain. The belt must be changed around 80,000-100,000 I believe or there can be a risk of major engine failure should it break. If mechanics are few and far between it may become an expensive car to repair when the time comes. I sold my Volvo after this video when two more major repairs were needed.
Great video, how many miles did you buy it with?
Without your extended warranty. How much would you have paid im guessing about $4,500 for the year. Thanks.
Thanks Rich. So I bought the car with 55k, added the extended warranty for about $3,000 or $3500 I don’t remember exactly. It paid off bc after doing this video there were two more issues, one minor (control module on fan kept going out) and a major issue where cylinder 5 coil shorted and melted, found oil leak, ac not blowing cold just cool, and rear suspension support plates needed replacement…the repairs came out to $3228 so overall the warranty definitely paid more than it’s value. This happened in May 2021. Sold the Volvo later at 110,000 mileage at peak of used car prices being inflated, after we bought a 2018 Lexus RX 350 f sport suv (which was not inflated actually but did go up in value shortly after) and have never looked back! 😅
Motor mounts oem 85$ torque rod 95 $ labor 125 .
My 2015 volvo s60 t5 broke down yesterday it stalled and when its in drive it goes in reverse I bought it recently so the dealership is having a mechanic look at tmr then I'm going on Wednesday to have volvo take a look at it completely
Yikes, sorry to hear that Steve, did you get any updates on what happened with your S60? (Sorry for my late reply, been a busy summer over here!)
Hey! I own a 2014 Volvo S60 T5 and I suspect that my transmission might be slipping slightly. My car has 98K miles on it and I am considering doing a transmission change on it. Do you think this is a good idea?
Hey man, sorry to hear about the transmission issues starting to pop up. Honestly, if you plan to keep the car for a longer period, I would see if you can get an extended warranty from a third party company, without mentioning anything about the transmission lol. That would be the first thing to do. Then wait a bit and see if Volvo or other mechanic would recommend doing a partial fluid change at 98K. They told me that if I wasn't going to do it before 80K, not to do it at all, but if you're having slip issues, that may help. If it gets worse as time goes on, at least you can use the warranty to get it fixed or replaced.
Can you tell me the name of your warranty? There are a lot of warranties that aren't worth the paper they are written on.
Sure thing, this one was actually through CarMax, I think it’s called MaxCare. I’m not sure if they sell them separately as a stand alone policy or if it’s only offered if you buy the car through them but worth checking out imo.
Batery i paid 100 usd with 1 year warranty, regardin labor cost is only 1 screw, 5 min job they charge for that
Homie didn’t even say how many miles he bought the car with
My bad lol, I got it with just over 50k. Currently at 107k, and that 120k servicing is coming up for a good $1500-2000. 😅
Spark plugs denso iridium 60 dollars, and i30 min job . You pay 500
Oil 70 if you doit your self.
Why did you keep the mileage a secret?
Great! What de fuel consumption in city?
I could get about 16-19 mpg in the city depending on traffic and if I would baby the throttle versus be a bit more spirited in how I drove. The fact it could run on super unleaded or regular unleaded helped a ton when gas prices would fluctuate over the years. 😎👍
Thinking of getting a 2013 S60 t5 anyone at all care to give any advice?
I am the warranty
Sounds like a money pit. Especially without a warranty. Was looking to buy a s60 cross country but, I think I'll keep looking
Yeah this one had another major 2 issues after this vid and I sold it. I think the key is finding one with great maintenance and single owner. And absolutely get an external warranty imo. I do still miss it when it was in it’s prime, from time to time.
Who pays over 140 dollars for an oil change? just do it yourself, it's really basic and you can even reset the oil service light from the dashboard. Most things are really easy to repair and maintain on Volvos, i would rather fix it myself or send it to a good reviewed local shop than take an extended warranty on an old car.
People like me who refuse to waste their time doing an oil change. It’s not a matter of not knowing how, I’ve changed oil many times, as well as larger repairs, back when I was young and broke. Now I can afford to not waste any morning of any day of the week doing that. And yes I could go to a local shop, but I don’t trust them so again I can afford to not have to use a local shop. Kudos to you for pinching your pennies, but time is what I value, not money.
Is it worth it to get this s60 t6? I'm in doubt for this or v40 t5... As far as I see in my country, volvo quite reliable n easy to maintain. Looking to get used one.
I would say if you can get a good deal on the S60 T6 go for it! Its a great car overall. I know the costs in my video were high for some things, but that is just my own personal experience and willingness to go to a dealership for repairs and maintenance. I absolutely love the car though. Not sure about the V40 T5, so I can't give an opinion there much. Whatever you choose, enjoy it! 😎🍻👍
@@DavidSchwartzjr thanks mate, appreciate it!
Great video ☺️ i am planning to buy s60 t5 2011 210k km for 8800 dollars. What are your thoughts?
Thanks! I haven't owned or driven the T5, but from what I've seen they are great options to go for as well! Just do a thorough review of the car before you buy. I took mine to a Volvo Dealership and had them overlook it to see how things seemed on the car but that was during a 10-day period in case I changed my mind on it from the company I bought mine from. I hope the car works out for you! 😎🍻👍
Thank you so much for your advice😁😁😁
Once u said 2000 for a repair, I told myself that I'm not buying this car 😐
It’s definitely a dice roll. But that can be any used car. This was just my experience. Could be cheaper if you go to a lesser quality mechanic and don’t mind waiting days for repair to complete.
could you have done some of this work yourself to save money?
Possibly, but it may have cost me a lot more of my time. I didn't want to run the risk of messing up that rear brake job bc of the electronic parking brake portion. I have been doing the engine air filter and cabin air filter replacements myself. After the extended warranty ends, I'll have to decide what is worth doing on my own versus paying a bit more to have Volvo or another shop do it. But this vid should definitely give people an idea of what to expect if you choose to go the dealer route only. Thanks for the comment, Ian!
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absolutely, most of this is easy stuff, or non sense replacements like rear strut cuz he didnt mention rear knocking or vehicle wondering around without steering input. i also suspect the AC thing was poor diag, usually the sound is the fan bearings on the blower or one of the door gets slow but never had them fail.. neither of these things are easiest to fix and unfortunately so common will happen again after replacement, someday. also, all car batteries have warranties and free replacement plans included usually 1 year prorating after 3-5 years depending on brand and series if buy them new. you could have saved a lot of money with battery.. i think volvo just buys batteries form johnson controls if i remember right, which makes large chunk of every other 12V car battery you can buy anywhere else.. installation of the battery at most is a 5 min job, if your an abled bodied person who also isnt entirely useless. worst effect is may have to set the time depending on the volvo, however not always true, some of them depending on hardware and software and model year can figure out the im themselves from the satellite or cell connection if u have sensus connect or VOC (volvo on call). as for the leak detection pump, WTF, yes common failure however you didn't get check engine light for evap failure which would meant pump was actually bad, so why replace it? and really common failure isn't big issue, its usually that slow vent failure meaning some of the time it can cause the gas pump to click off before full tank but not constantly like if vent was broken but never really enough to cause any other issues other then rare minor announce of only being able to 3/4 fill your tank some days.
i have an XC70 T6 with nearly 300K miles on the clock, owned it since new and beat the snot out of it but also maintain it.. yes, has some of trademark volvo quirks and failures of the era for P3 volvos however something i learned extremely quickly with owning a volvo even if everything is perfectly in order, expect when bring it into a shop for them to find problems even if they dont exist and wanna charge you stupid prices. P3 volvos are easy enough to work on that general maintenance is fairly easy and parts if know where to look arent too bad either, share a lot of parts with Ford motor company cars including (of the era) fords, astons, jags, landrovers, etc and also a lot of decent OEMs like shocks on my wagon are bilstein B4 touring shocks, just painted black and labeled volvo if you know what to look for they arent expensive, took me 1 hour to replace both rear struts and i had no idea how, albeit i have small bit of understanding i dove in fairly blind with no instructions or direction..
Don’t go to Volvo, your spending x2 /x3 more just having it done at Volvo. Just FYI you’re always spending top dollar and they will let you know what else needs to be done when you really don’t.
2013 audi a5 3.0tdi or this Volvo t6 polestar, which one is a money pit?
The Audi would be my guess based on what I’ve seen and heard from other Audi owners. Not that any owned that 2013 A5 specifically, but any major issues are gonna cost more than the remaining value of the car imo. They both will be expensive but I lean toward the Volvo being more reliable and also safer. But the A5 looks cooler lol. I almost got a 2015 RS5 but looking back I’m glad I didn’t.
@@DavidSchwartzjr thank you so much for the response. I have the Audi from March last year and have been hearing horror things regarding costs, others say its also reliable v6 engine... Mine is sportback.
Does the Volvo have a chain or belt. Yes it's not the coolest but I want my bank account to be cooler. It's just the fuel consumption on this Volvo thats bad
@@lgizzy6335 I believe this engine for the 2013 is a timing belt. I want to say servicing of it is every 120k iirc. Yes fuel economy isn’t the greatest but I do like that you can use premium for better performance or toss unleaded in and it will still run just fine if looking to save on fuel costs. I use both all the time...just depends on gas prices.
@@DavidSchwartzjr the 3.0 T6 has chain while the 2.5 T5 has the belt. The 2012 and some of the 2013 has the oil consumption. My 2013 T6 R design has been bulletproof and I have a local Volvo specialist taking care of it and it’s not bad. You can also purchase parts from fcpeuro with their lifetime warranty deals.
Dude you paid them $70 to install a $300 battery...yikes! If you can do brakes, you can replace a battery .
The problem is all that dealer service and the huge depreciation on these cars it’s just not worth spending double on your service costs.
Only Volvo can reset Battery Sensor
@@canutillosoccerladyeaglesb6077 so put a cheap 12v battery in parallel derp.
Oil change at dealer?
Proof of scheduled maintenance while under extended warranty. My days of wasting time doing it myself are over but to each their own, some would rather save the money and spend a couple hours doing it themselves and that’s fine too. 🤷🏻♂️
Wow a $500 deductible ouch, why not $100? Also, I have a 2011 Volvo S80 3.2 with 126k miles and haven't had the problems you have had. Taking a car to the Volvo dealership (unless still under warranty) is too expensive. Better to find a good independent shop that specializes in Volvo's for service and repair
Yeah, the reason for a higher deductible is that I had assumed it would have been more reliable, not needing many repairs, but also the cost of the extended warranty would have been drastically higher for a lower deductible option (a $100 deductible would have ran about $6,000 for the warranty, which would not have been worth it). Even the euroshop here in town was only slightly cheaper than the Volvo dealership, and their use of aftermarket parts and lack of lifetime warranty (as Volvo has) also made it not worth the savings imo. Glad to hear your S80 has been doing great, Keith! I loved this S60 but ultimately sold it, just too many issues for me to risk keeping it. Ended up going with a Lexus RX350 F-Sport. Thanks for your feedback and experience, sir! 😎🍻👍
Can you make another video elaborating why there was too many issues to make it worth keeping?
You got taken for a ride. Trans fluid change in R is every 30k, not lifetime. Do it more often. Stop going to dealerships for everything and learn to fix basic things yourself. Brakes, oil changes, filters, suspension do it yourself. Easy to learn. Easy to master. Much more rewarding. Rear brakes use a 9v battery with leads to the retract or compress, easy as dirt. No engines lights needed. Have exact same car, bought at 60k, now 110k nothing major ever happened. Just maintenance... Unless there are Recalls, STOP GOING TO THE DEALER. They are lying to you. Having put some mileage in I will say be prepared to replaced your strut tower bushings often, this car destroys them in about a year. The dealer tells you shocks, its just the mounts knocking around.
should I go to the dealership for oil changes and new batteries? 🤣
I had my engine mounts done at the dealer for 400. No warranty.
Okay that sounds about where I’d expect the cost to be thereabouts. Have you done the 120k service yet? Volvo quoted me $1500 on that one bc of the timing belt and tensioner replacement.
@@DavidSchwartzjr if Volvo quoted you at 1500 for that job that’s not bad in my experience. When I asked about getting it done they told me it would be 2-3 thousand. I’m just at 71,000 miles but I drive it hard so I just wanted to get out ahead of things and have an idea of what I’d be looking at in the future.
Since S60s are interference engines that’s definitely not a job I would neglect, but only based on what I heard from my dealer that seems to be a decent price. I’d probably check the forums though just to see.
Okay cool thanks for the reply. Yeah I was reading how some passed on that service and when the belt or tensioner finally failed it slammed their heads into the valves and total engine failure resulted so they either needed rebuild heads or major repairs. Not something I’d want to mess with so I won’t be passing up on that maintenance. Will be good peace of mind for the next 120k at least lol.
Bro you look familiar
Lol hmmm...🤔 Are you in Texas?
Bro that’s a lot of money.
Yeah, in contrast I have only had simple regular maintenance done on my Lexus and that’s done by Toyota for a lower cost. 😬 Next car will probably be a Lexus or Toyota tbh, as much as I love this Volvo.
This car is a damn money pit! You just talked me out of buying a Volvo. Btw , you paid 70 bucks to install a battery but you can do your own front brakes? That's kind of strange ,isn't it?
Yeah I’ve gotten lazier when it comes to messing with my cars. Doing the brakes wasn’t fun but at least it was a substantial savings. Cost savings on the battery would have been minor. Btw, get a Lexus. I’m about to buy another Lexus and then eventually sell this Volvo and replace it with a Toyota. I will miss this one though, even though it’s expensive.
325 hp
when u have to buy extended warranty u will know the car is bad
Could u just put in you own battery for a ton less money ?
Probably, but we’re talking $70 here not a huge amount of money. The time of going out and buying the battery, uninstalling the old one, installing the new one, dropping off the old battery to dispose of is such a waste I’d much rather just spend the extra. The way I see it is we can make money, but we can’t make time.
Ah see the key is to wind your watch back once you’re done ; )
Haha I see what you did there! 😎🍻🙌
very expensive maintain not more the reliability of volvo u expect like years ago. Next purchase will be a japanese brand
Thay see you coming 🤣
Sheeet, brah, you know I ain't even worried 😂
Damn I thought Audis were unreliable.
Sounds like a money pit.
It got worse since filming this. Sold it last week. Loving my Lexus RC and Lexus RX much more.
@@DavidSchwartzjr Shalom, thanks for being the only honest volvo owener ive seen. every clown is doing an under 50k review and saying its reliable but they never own it over 5 years! Lexas is not for me but im going for a mazda6 loaded. Cheers!
What a pile of crap car
Lol, yeah it was bittersweet to get rid of last year. Hopped into another Lexus, and my bank account and I haven't looked back! 😂
Who changes oil at the dealership? What’s wrong with you , you should always have a mechanic you know or do it yourself, I pay $45 for labour and buy my own oil. That’s how it should be don ,otherwise your throwing your money away for nothing. Only women and grandmas bring their cars to dealerships to get ripped off for a simple oil change.
😂 guess you can call me Grammy lol. First, I don’t WANT to change my own oil, my time is worth more to me and second, I want service records on file showing the car had all its maintenance done on schedule as I have an extended warranty. But hey, keep telling me how I should spend my money lol 🤷🏻♂️
I'd argue paying anyone to do something so simple os a rip off. But I mean, if pretending women are incapable makes you feel better about not knowing how, by all means.
Dealerships are not that bad on oil changes. It's the big jobs that get you.
Dude, I couldn't keep watching. Too painful, damn you talked yourself into a bottomless money pit...
Just drive the damn thing till it breaks and have a mechanic fix it or TH-cam yourself through it.
It literally would've been a whole lot cheaper to Uber yourself everywhere...