Fun fact Ilan has his own band called the New Regime and he is literally the only band member. He sings and plays all instrument in the band at advance level. He's insanely talented.
Apparently Trent Reznor never played this song in the past because its a very difficult track to reproduce live and only started doing it in 2018. Ilan is one kick ass drummer and multi instrumentalist.
A little more clarification: When Trent said the song was difficult to reproduce live, he hasn't ever meant the insane drumming, though he's used that as an excuse in the past. Later interviews, he's mentioned that basically all of his drummers have had the capability to play it. The issue was always the slow dirge ending not being "good enough" in a live setting. Any of the other endings they tried to do to make it more "live appropriate" just didn't feel right. It wasn't until a certain point where Trent went "fuck it" and just played it as intended anyways.
I was at Red Rocks when they played this live for the first time - and having known it was previously never done live, I lost my shit!!!! 🔥 🔥 🔥 thanks for hitting up some great NIN live performances!
open handed, check high on the sticks, he uses longer sticks, he writes his own music, he sings, he plays bass, guitar, piano (even classical) sight-reads music, mixes and engineers (with his bro Aaron), played woodstock at 11 (i think) and is, if not the youngest then, one of the youngest people to be admitted into the rock n roll hall of fame. Met Ilan, his other bro Daniel and Scott. All wonderful
Ilan Rubin is a STAR, there is a reason Trent has not let him get away and he has been with NIN this long. The Tension Tour really showcased him. He can do EVERYTHING, he even plays guitar. I had been waiting for YEARS for Trent to play this song live, and he said it couldn't be done to his satisfaction and he had tried during previous tour rehearsals, I figured if anyone could do it Josh Freese could, but Ilan was the ONE to do it now it has to be played at shows. I was in Chicago and when this song started, I lost my shhhh I couldn't believe it...
There are a load of loops going on in the background. It makes it even more impressive as anyone knows playing with fast speeds loops its way easier to sound terrible. Crazy.
I think your channel is awesome. I am 57 years old, from the USA, and have been playing music of one form or another since I was two. I've been in a lot of ensembles with different drummers and I have never seen anybody play their high hat with symbols that large.
Finally, you've got to Ilan Rubin. He's an incredible drummer. You need to seriously check out his drum solo he did for the Guitar Centre Drum-Off. His main influences are John Bonham and Stewart Copeland, and it's such an interesting concoction to see expressed in his playing.
As the person who originally requested the Delta Empire cover, I'm very happy to see Ilan get some props! I still can't believe Jerome Dillon couldn't play this, immense drummer that he was!
I saw them during their last UK tour and got to catch this live for the first time. It was absolutely amazing to see Ilan go crazy with those drum solos. Trent never used to perform The perfect drug live, just because of the drums being so difficult to recreate live. Ilan nails it every time
Check out the NIN live version of March of Pigs (backstage) with Ilan drumming. Also, there is a TH-cam video out there of Ilan explaining his hand placement on the sticks.
Just saw NIN at Riot Fest in Chicago in September and they kicked ass!! Illan took legend and human metronome Josh Freese's drum chair when Freese' wife had their 4th child.
You made mention about his snare tone and sound on this tour. That is in GREAT PART to Q Drum Co. that Ilan and @Jeremy Berman started years ago. IF memory serves, the snare drum is a Q Drum Co. Gentleman's Copper that is seamlessly hand-drawn and is a COMPLETE STUNNER. Like ALL Q Drum Co. Drums...they are amazing instruments and the recently passed Jeremy Berman has left a void in the drum building community that will be hard to fill. I felt you should know about one of the PRIME REASONS that snare sounds so good. Q Drum Co. and Jeremy Berman are worth investigating...Jeremy is missed terribly by ALL who knew him and OF him.
Great commentary. What you said at the end is almost exactly how Taylor Hawkins talked about it once in a interview, when asked about what it's like being a rock star. To which he replied something like, "Fuck that, I'm not a rock star, I'm a musician, dammit!"
as a drummer. my fav part to play is the part when it slows tempo. it's like "finally my arms are not on fire" lol. i always ask fellow drummers, especially drummers that understand drums (thats not me, i just feel it, i don't count shit. my head is blank when i drum), do you think people who sing and play drums also don't count? like how do you count, and sing.
I wondered when you get around to doing this for all the beast Freese was this guy is a whole new monster I was blown away when I watched this the first time enjoy I know I will!!!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums reminds me of 'international' by one day a lion (the drummer from Mars Volta) with the technique, intensity and pace. Love this type of drumming.
Ilan did the studio recordings on Paramore's self-titled album. His playing is incredibly varied, super-energetic, great chops, great ideas, challenging to copy if you're only a so-so drummer like me.
Ilan holds his sticks that way because when he was very little he had to hold them like this (I think B sticks) and after that he just got to used to it. Never bother to relearn. If I remember it correctly from one of his interviews.
The end is not improvised actually, that's how the song goes. There was a small moment where they were off and I think that's what triggered the confusing looks. Nine Inch Nails used to not play this song live because of the end, it's just a weird place to transition from.
I don't know drumming, do the mic's on the drums change the sound? It doesn't sound like a standard drum. Also why is he looking at trent when playing the keyboard? Is he getting ques?
Something you NEED to know in context: Even though this song was originally released way back in '97, Trent Reznor refused to perform it live for over two decades because NOBODY was able to pull off that drum solo. Then Ilan joined the band. And that mad lad did it. Boy, did he do it.
Ilan is insane, no doubt, but there's no way Josh Freese couldn't have played this. It's always been about how Trent couldn't ever get the song to sound right live, particularly the ending.
A non-drummer here, but I believe that the original was a programmed drum machine. Any drummer who has to play these songs has to find a way to do it "as a drummer would," i.e. using drumming rudiments instead of random notes out of nowhere. Ghost notes makes sense then. Not on the original, but a way to keep the beat for a human being.
I actually heard your comment on Josh Freese drums as the Holy Trinity where he played the music Wish by NIN. though i like Freese, Rubin is more skilled. Trent mentioned before that they won't play live "The Perfect Drug" because it was too difficult or fast for the drummer, and here we see Rubin performing it.
Ilan Rubin is extraordinary. I had the chance to attend the Guitar Center drum off back in 2011 and he blew my mind. His performance was great. th-cam.com/video/-CwASFrwkAc/w-d-xo.html
Hello Andrew, Great content, with technical insight, good explanations, but also quite some humor. Congratulations, and keep going. Here is a suggestion for one of the next reaction videos. It's Larnell Lewis's YAMAHA PHX performance of Sharifa The Great, a song by his wife Joy Lapps. Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/55zW-7GWdQA/w-d-xo.html Cheers Paulo
What do you call the person who hangs around a bunch of musicians?.. yes its an old joke.. But the best drummers i have ever played with, were better musicians than me.
Good drummer but the music just doesn't do it for me. I can't play like him, I can't do left handed. Like John Bonham and Neil Peart were not powerful.
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I met Ilan, when he was 11-years old, at a F.O.N. show in which he was the drummer.
Fun fact Ilan has his own band called the New Regime and he is literally the only band member. He sings and plays all instrument in the band at advance level. He's insanely talented.
Sounds like someone else........ ; )
The new Phil Collins?
Apparently Trent Reznor never played this song in the past because its a very difficult track to reproduce live and only started doing it in 2018. Ilan is one kick ass drummer and multi instrumentalist.
A little more clarification: When Trent said the song was difficult to reproduce live, he hasn't ever meant the insane drumming, though he's used that as an excuse in the past. Later interviews, he's mentioned that basically all of his drummers have had the capability to play it. The issue was always the slow dirge ending not being "good enough" in a live setting. Any of the other endings they tried to do to make it more "live appropriate" just didn't feel right. It wasn't until a certain point where Trent went "fuck it" and just played it as intended anyways.
They played on the perfect drug tour in the 90s in England
not really
I applaud this young man. He is amazing, but I heard this live in the 90's. So stop with it never got played till they found him BS.
i like at the beginning where you're like 'is that a keyboard?' this is nine inch nails. you don't play just *one* instrument per song!
Always loved the drums on this track. So hectic
Power and energy!! 🙌
His hair makes it even more hectic !
Just a fun fact about their live performances: They don't use tape or sound effects tracks. They all actually play them live on keyboards or pads.
I nearly cheered when you pointed out that Trent had hired a great 'musician'. Well put.
Haha! 🙌
I was at Red Rocks when they played this live for the first time - and having known it was previously never done live, I lost my shit!!!! 🔥 🔥 🔥 thanks for hitting up some great NIN live performances!
I bet!
open handed, check
high on the sticks, he uses longer sticks, he writes his own music,
he sings,
he plays bass, guitar, piano (even classical)
sight-reads music,
mixes and engineers (with his bro Aaron), played woodstock at 11 (i think) and is, if not the youngest then, one of the youngest people to be admitted into the rock n roll hall of fame. Met Ilan, his other bro Daniel and Scott. All wonderful
Ilan Rubin is a STAR, there is a reason Trent has not let him get away and he has been with NIN this long. The Tension Tour really showcased him. He can do EVERYTHING, he even plays guitar. I had been waiting for YEARS for Trent to play this song live, and he said it couldn't be done to his satisfaction and he had tried during previous tour rehearsals, I figured if anyone could do it Josh Freese could, but Ilan was the ONE to do it now it has to be played at shows. I was in Chicago and when this song started, I lost my shhhh I couldn't believe it...
not many people can appreciate this. Ilan is to drums what Rach was to piano
Steven Adler's snare sound from Appetite is still my favorite one
Same here
I’m old school and appreciate all the incredible drummers I’ve been exposed to on your channel.
Ilan has been killing it since he joined in 08. I love his live drumming deviations every show, every year. Paramour, eat your heart out
There are a load of loops going on in the background. It makes it even more impressive as anyone knows playing with fast speeds loops its way easier to sound terrible. Crazy.
terrific. thanks
It’s the most wonderful thing I’ve seen
I think your channel is awesome. I am 57 years old, from the USA, and have been playing music of one form or another since I was two. I've been in a lot of ensembles with different drummers and I have never seen anybody play their high hat with symbols that large.
Glad to have you along for the ride Kurt! Yes he’s a monster 🙌
Great performance! Very much enjoyed this.
Glad you enjoyed it
Finally, you've got to Ilan Rubin. He's an incredible drummer. You need to seriously check out his drum solo he did for the Guitar Centre Drum-Off. His main influences are John Bonham and Stewart Copeland, and it's such an interesting concoction to see expressed in his playing.
I saw NIN on their most recent tour and this was my favorite live track.
As the person who originally requested the Delta Empire cover, I'm very happy to see Ilan get some props! I still can't believe Jerome Dillon couldn't play this, immense drummer that he was!
Remember jerome was kicked out of NIN because of heart condition. He collapsed a couple times during gigs.
I saw them during their last UK tour and got to catch this live for the first time. It was absolutely amazing to see Ilan go crazy with those drum solos. Trent never used to perform The perfect drug live, just because of the drums being so difficult to recreate live. Ilan nails it every time
The drums in this song have always given me jungle/DnB vibes, ever since I heard it in the late 90s
Check out the NIN live version of March of Pigs (backstage) with Ilan drumming. Also, there is a TH-cam video out there of Ilan explaining his hand placement on the sticks.
Just saw NIN at Riot Fest in Chicago in September and they kicked ass!! Illan took legend and human metronome Josh Freese's drum chair when Freese' wife had their 4th child.
I just saw this today. Glad to see all of his kit used haha. Awesome.
ilan plays upright bass and sax also since joining NIN
Love the video, Ilan Rubin is a beast who does this song justice and makes it special for a live performance 🤙🤙
All bands need to have drum 🥁 cam. Cuz this is the age of reactions
100%
Drum cam is always an improvement
Love the open handed work
Always an exciting style Rob!
NIN does seem to use live drums on his tracks more than not. This was cool!
Seen a few comments about him playing other instruments, yeah. Ilan even plays bass guitar on "Sanctified" live since there's no acoustic drums on it.
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Hell yeah, I’ve been waiting for this!
Love how he was muting the snare at the end of the measure by just "flat sticking" it. Great sound!
Good catch! 👌
And he's the youngest Rock n Roll Hall of Fame member.
Fascinating review.
THANKS!
Don’t stop now, he’s got like 2 more recent ones! 👏👏👏
You made mention about his snare tone and sound on this tour. That is in GREAT PART to Q Drum Co. that Ilan and @Jeremy Berman started years ago. IF memory serves, the snare drum is a Q Drum Co. Gentleman's Copper that is seamlessly hand-drawn and is a COMPLETE STUNNER. Like ALL Q Drum Co. Drums...they are amazing instruments and the recently passed Jeremy Berman has left a void in the drum building community that will be hard to fill. I felt you should know about one of the PRIME REASONS that snare sounds so good. Q Drum Co. and Jeremy Berman are worth investigating...Jeremy is missed terribly by ALL who knew him and OF him.
Yey! Ian Rubin at last.
One of my fave 'intense' drummers.
Thanks John
I will have to travel to EEUU to see NIN live lol
Great commentary. What you said at the end is almost exactly how Taylor Hawkins talked about it once in a interview, when asked about what it's like being a rock star. To which he replied something like, "Fuck that, I'm not a rock star, I'm a musician, dammit!"
Ooooohhhhhh, I didn't know this one! Bonus!!!
Amazing snare sound.
Insane! 🏆
as a drummer. my fav part to play is the part when it slows tempo. it's like "finally my arms are not on fire" lol. i always ask fellow drummers, especially drummers that understand drums (thats not me, i just feel it, i don't count shit. my head is blank when i drum), do you think people who sing and play drums also don't count? like how do you count, and sing.
Great synopsis! Very cool.
Una bestia Ilan..!!
Excellent drummer, fantastic Trent reznor, inch nine inch nails
Top drawer. Loved the first cover of this song. Loved this one too. NIN!!!
I wondered when you get around to doing this for all the beast Freese was this guy is a whole new monster I was blown away when I watched this the first time enjoy I know I will!!!
Both out of this world 🌎 🙌
He's done a few more of these drum cams definitely worth checking out as well
You should watch Josh Freese's drum cams from the 2008 NIN your. He did Wish and March Of The Pigs
PLEASE watch more Ilan Rubin, man! Haha
Wowawowee! That was crazy good ear candy.
Phenomenal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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@@AndrewRooneyDrums reminds me of 'international' by one day a lion (the drummer from Mars Volta) with the technique, intensity and pace. Love this type of drumming.
Ilan did the studio recordings on Paramore's self-titled album. His playing is incredibly varied, super-energetic, great chops, great ideas, challenging to copy if you're only a so-so drummer like me.
Ilan holds his sticks that way because when he was very little he had to hold them like this (I think B sticks) and after that he just got to used to it. Never bother to relearn. If I remember it correctly from one of his interviews.
Illan is a bad ass piano player; he and his brother both.
Ilan is a very talented piano player as well.
Nice.thanx🙂
Welcome 😊
See his March of The Pigs drum cam to watch him swap between drums and keys, and a killer 7/8 7/8 7/8 8/8 pattern!
Was hoping you would react to it.
🤯
Pwei drumming is awesome
You knew it was coming when the mic stand left the scene.
The end is not improvised actually, that's how the song goes. There was a small moment where they were off and I think that's what triggered the confusing looks. Nine Inch Nails used to not play this song live because of the end, it's just a weird place to transition from.
I don't know drumming, do the mic's on the drums change the sound? It doesn't sound like a standard drum. Also why is he looking at trent when playing the keyboard? Is he getting ques?
I would assume as a Trent would be the ‘director’ yes. All musicians follow cues.
Something you NEED to know in context: Even though this song was originally released way back in '97, Trent Reznor refused to perform it live for over two decades because NOBODY was able to pull off that drum solo. Then Ilan joined the band. And that mad lad did it. Boy, did he do it.
Ilan is insane, no doubt, but there's no way Josh Freese couldn't have played this. It's always been about how Trent couldn't ever get the song to sound right live, particularly the ending.
this is beyond false, especially when he had Freese before Rubin who’s just as good if not greater than
A non-drummer here, but I believe that the original was a programmed drum machine. Any drummer who has to play these songs has to find a way to do it "as a drummer would," i.e. using drumming rudiments instead of random notes out of nowhere. Ghost notes makes sense then. Not on the original, but a way to keep the beat for a human being.
My first date with my now wife was a NIN concert. She married me anyway. Go figure!
Trent ONLY hires AMAZING drummer.
You should listen to Piggy from The Downward Spiral. Trent does the drums and it's unconventional but amazing
React to Allt
Allt - Emanate
Allt - Paralyzed
Allt - Rapture 😊
Funny you just explained that Drumeo is going into keys and guitars like Rubin did the video.🤔
Omg! 🤯
I actually heard your comment on Josh Freese drums as the Holy Trinity where he played the music Wish by NIN. though i like Freese, Rubin is more skilled. Trent mentioned before that they won't play live "The Perfect Drug" because it was too difficult or fast for the drummer, and here we see Rubin performing it.
Only the best for trent
Be honest.... we were all waiting for 9:13 😂
Ilan Rubin is extraordinary. I had the chance to attend the Guitar Center drum off back in 2011 and he blew my mind. His performance was great.
th-cam.com/video/-CwASFrwkAc/w-d-xo.html
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Hello Andrew,
Great content, with technical insight, good explanations, but also quite some humor. Congratulations, and keep going.
Here is a suggestion for one of the next reaction videos. It's Larnell Lewis's YAMAHA PHX performance of Sharifa The Great, a song by his wife Joy Lapps.
Here is the link: th-cam.com/video/55zW-7GWdQA/w-d-xo.html
Cheers
Paulo
What do you call the person who hangs around a bunch of musicians?.. yes its an old joke.. But the best drummers i have ever played with, were better musicians than me.
💯👌
Ilans “open handed”
playing makes it soooooooooo boring to watch…
Good drummer but the music just doesn't do it for me. I can't play like him, I can't do left handed. Like John Bonham and Neil Peart were not powerful.
Wowawowee! That was crazy good ear candy.