World's biggest mine: Inside US coal
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- Barack Obama’s pledge to cut carbon emissions has not stopped North Antelope Rochelle mine in Wyoming. In fact, production is booming - and climate change is off the agenda. The Guardian's Suzanne Goldenberg gets a rare look inside the biggest coal mine in the world.
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#Wyoming #CoalMine #USA #ClimateChange #NorthAntelopeRochelle
I thought I was going to get to see the mine .
Eddie Hartzog ya me too
5 years into the future thanking you for saving from watching the video
She must have gotten chased off for asking these questions. Like a vegan going to a slaughter house. "Do you think the cows suffer"?
@@alvaro93364 you know she went off script trying to grandstand in front of the cameras- push their luck and shut down the show.
I came here to see the coal mine, not some climate change report
Come in india
Goes hand on hand!
You would have if she hadn't botched the interview with her green agenda.
Same
00.30 - that coal seam. Must be 70 or 80 feet thick ! Enormous amount of coal.
before there was fungus etc. that could eat wood. it just lasted forever (check out the evolution of coal ) and was washed into Canyons KMs. thick. timber/trees flooded in ocean 100s kms of wide i think for 25m years .that much stored carbon dioxide was starving almost all vegetation
It’s 80’. So thick they shoot then 10’ coal seem above it to get to the big one, then load it out with 2800s. May be thick but it’s almost worthless because of its BTU value.
"yeah, we've got uhh... stop! stop the tape!" lol
You did not see the rest of the reaction. I am sure it was something like , "get off our property we are not going to take a hit piece."
Nessy Bomber I feel like that guy just runs the place 9-5 and they should go to some higher ups for answers like that
Yeah, burying your head in the sand isn't a great adaptation strategy.
Putting aside the truth of the matter, a better PR response would be "It's a complicated subject, not something that lends itself to sound bites."
Did she say, " Just one ton of coal produces 3700 lbs of carbon dioxide"? How is that possible?
Smoke and mirrors, she’s selling climate change
Oxygen bonds with the carbon in the coal when it is burned, therefore the total weight after combustion is higher than just the coal itslef.
@@Henriburger1 And what about the water vapor that is also produced? Is that accounted for separately?
@@michaelpost7352
Water vapor doesn't produce carbon dioxide nor does releasing it contribute to climate change. We cannot significantly increase or decrease the humidity in the air because if it goes lower more water evaporates, and if it goes higher, it just rains.
@@Henriburger1 Wasn't thinking of the climate change angle, just wondering about the weight balance. One ton of coal makes 3700lbs of CO2, plus x pounds of H2O.
I guess it's a rare look because you're so rude when they let you in
It's not rude to ask questions they're not prepared to answer. Rude would be a question like, "How do you feel knowing you're murdering people?"
F**k Carbon.... wanted to see about a coal mine!!
Were those scenes of the cows, the alleged farting cows that supposedly are contributing to "global warming?"
What about the millions of bison in America doing the same before 1850. Never hear about that Wasn't that all part of the natural 'eco-system'
is coal edible ?
I like STEAK!
I thought I’d see a big coal mine. Not a bunch of tree huggers crying
What are ur thoughts on climate change
@@zovcuu we cant stop it so just live with it
I thought the same thing.
@@zovcuu go get mad at China and India, they are the worst polluters
@@zovcuu my thoughts are I feed my family with the coal industry so I honestly could care less
"They're just doing it for their bottom line." Sort of like every other company in this country. There's no other industry that would be told not to make money, or to lose money because their product damages the environment.
True, the industry itself isn't what's rotten. The economic system as a whole incentivizing profit no matter the consequence is the problem.
@@Jake-rs9nq We dont have a country or an economy without consequences!
@@5rings16 The question is, what consequences should be deemed acceptable?
You like the power your house has? Don't like coal turn off your lights!
@@TravBauer exactly!
Texas could use some coal plants right now.
Texas has some coal plants - the trouble as I understand it was that they weren’t on line with plenty of steam when the grid went down . Peak demand gas generation doesn’t work when there isn’t enough gas to make steam . Problem is no gas is stored at those plants for production . Coal fired plants are REQUIRED to have at least a 60 day supply of stored energy ( coal pile ) . Any problem with the natural gas pipeline system ( like sudden huge demand ) and the peak plants go cold . It’s all about steam to spin those generators.
@@marclauzon1882 Nuke power is the answer!
@@carlinshowalter1806 not a fan - Fukushima Diachi is currently poisoning the Pacific Ocean
Bet they're regretting giving them that exclusive access
1 ton of wood makes 5700lbs of carbon dioxide emissions. 2000lbs more than coal. This one stat raises more questions than answersb
better go easy on the barbeque.
what a pretty low point of comparison, literal caveman, without the artistic talent.
@ Mike 1:37 she says 1 ton (2000 pounds) produces 3700 pounds of CO2 ..... seems counterintuitive
until u throw chemistry into the mix (Carbon with atomic weight of 12, combines with oxygen (atomic weight 16) to form CO and CO2)
So, yes even if the entire carbon is not burnt off, we can still have a higher mass of CO2 than the C (coal/coke) it came from
That lady said it doesn't put out more CO2 than trees that grow in the forest, how did she get a job! Trees take IN CO2, I think she needs to go back to school.
she's american
Trees emit co2 during night cycles.
Trees emit CO2 at night and whe trees die they release all the captured CO2
Look up the full photosynthesis cycle; plants emit CO2 during the dark phase.
She's rite. Theres entire islands of particular plants n trees that emit co2. Its jus not talkd about. N for the cow statement, they create methane but we can account for most of it by tallying the amount of feed to livestock. More feeding mor methane. She shouldve elaborated
America needs to be energy independent and we were for four years . 2018 to 2021...
"Ok you're dying from starvation because of climate change, but at least you are energy independent ! yay sovereignty !"
Not by a long shot.
Coal keeps the lights on
And doctors in jobs looking after Black Lung cases.
You've got some impressive looking machinery on site.
What machinery all that they showed is climate change
@@bradenrutledge3321 I guess he means that big shovel. It is impressive.
2000 lbs of coal contains 3700 lbs of carbon? Must be using common core math...
Not Carbon, Carbon Dioxide which is CO2, where one atom of Carbon (weighing 12u) binds with it two atoms of oxygen (16u each). So theoretically from pure elemental carbon you can get 7300lbs of CO2 from 2000 lbs of it
Of course not every bit of it is burned, slightly CO is produced and so on.
Hahaha how the heck is that possible?
12g of carbon combine with 16 g of oxygen to form 44g of CO2 similarly plants absorb 44g of CO2 to form 12g of carbon (wood) and 16g of oxygen
@@SaintNjuguna It doesn't Add up, 16+12=28
There are two oxygens in atom, so for 12g of carbon you need 32g (16x2) of oxygen to get 44g of CO2.
Combining 12g C and 16g O will get you 28g (not 44) of Carbon Monoxide (not dioxide)
...So I get what you're trying to say, but in current form it's wrong
No, you're just using Minnesota public school chemistry. It's okay, the Vikings will make the playoffs.
I just wanted to see how the mine works man
Congratulations! It is a hard job. Peabody has a large experience in mining. Also a blessing to America
Without coal this video wouldn't have ever even happened. From the car they used to drive them to NARM for the interviews all the way to the computer that was used to edit this video.
I thought everything is powered by unicorn shit
Coal only account for a little over 30% of US power generations, so that means this video would not have been possible with all the other generation sources.
Coal is fading... if you don't believe it stop by the Gillette unemployment office... and watch the Wyoming news. Wyoming, who has always gotten all thier tax revenue from fossil fuels is broke! They are currently trying to figure out how to tax every car driving through the state to make up the difference.
reading this from France is very funny.
"You can't criticize society, you live in it!" -Zach B
Interviewer: "Mind if we talk about your coal company, sir"
Man: "Not at all"
Interviewer: "What's your company's position on climate change?"
Man: "Stop the tape!"
would you speak out against your employer, oh yeah you don't have an employer
What's your point?
@@forbaldo1 There are other answers that can be given. For example: "Well, we *are* in the business of mining coal. We can have all the positions in the world about climate change, but I think we both know we're going to keep mining coal until mining coal is either unprofitable or illegal. I don't think either of those will happen soon."
If we are the problem, why we are not in the ice age anymore?
Coal is still more friendly for the environment than battery production and the waste from battery's
You won't hear many people calling out lithium battery production for a Prius.
"Just one ton of this coal produces 3700 pounds of carbon dioxide emissions" 1:33 what??
this is just propoganda I live in the town that houses the coal miners that work at that mine that mine and all the others don't m as ke our snow black our air is clean as day this is just propoganda
Told it here twice, will do it again... Because sure some people don't remember chemistry
Carbon Dioxide is one atom of Carbon (weighing 12u) binded with it two atoms of oxygen (16u each). So theoretically from pure elemental carbon you can get 7300lbs of CO2 from 2000 lbs of C it if burned perfectly. The rest of it comes from atmospheric oxygen.
Of course not every bit of it is burned, slightly CO is produced you have ashes and so on, so the number is much lower
Lame I thought I was going RIGHT to a mine not to LEFT sided video
Wyoming has given us alot to be thankful for
3:42 "I dont think climate change is real" and you can see her balding lol
There is a volcano erupting in Hawaii that they say has been erupting for 300 years every single day but there worried about burning a little coal. We are still warming from the last ice age. When it gets time it will start getting colder tell there's another ice age. It's called history
We're due for an ice age now, but temps are rising quicker than ever. & the co2 is what's suppose to absorb heat & warm the atmosphere
This video started with "gotcha" type questions, which is a disgusting tactic to drive a story line. The makers of this should be ashamed, but people who do this kind of "reporting" have no shame. They only have a political agenda.
So 2000 pounds of coal magically make 3700 pounds of co2 .... might wanna check your math
Carbon Dioxide is one atom of Carbon (weighing 12u) binded with it two atoms of oxygen (16u each). So theoretically from pure elemental carbon you can get 7300lbs of CO2 from 2000 lbs of C it if burned perfectly. The rest of it comes from atmospheric oxygen.
...might wanna check your chemistry
I quote ... "just one ton of this coal produces 3700 pounds of carbon dioxide"
Can someone multiply my money in the same fashion? I'll spilt it with you!
Where is the hard facts about global warming,I missed that article!!!
I loved the lady from the Chamber-of-Commerce, who thought that humans emit carbon-MONoxide, should surely have been Dioxide ?
I loved that she thought trees put out carbon gases.
How exactly does 2000 lbs of coal produce 3700 lbs of emissions?
I am stunned by Julie Simon's complete ignorance over climate change - she honestly thinks trees put CO2 in the air?
Nuclear plants produce maximum power more than 92% of the year - twice as much as gas and coal and three times more reliable than wind or solar with only a fraction of the pollution. This makes it the most economical and environmentally friendly source of energy. But both the coal and oil companies are multi-billion dollar industries, they won't take outsourcing quietly.
And then there’s the nuclear WASTE that we have no place to safely store and can stay radioactive for hundreds of years. It’s not even remotely “environmentally” friendly. Nevermind the land destruction necessary to mine the uranium for it. That stuff doesn’t exactly grow on trees.
Put the nuke waste in the abandoned coal mines,win/win!
Didn't work out to well in Chernobyl or Fukoshima though did it
"The Guardian the Whole picture" well thats a funny quote to have when u only give one side of the story. Why don't report on what effect solar panels and battery have on the environment. Considering there production life is less than half a cold fired power station whats the environmental payback period. Nah much easier to just pick on coal
Bait and switch journalism
I dont trust any old man that dies his hair
questions
1: Do you care if your children and grandchildren have a livable world and have energy, too?
2: Are you willing to live Without air conditioning - for your children and grandchildren?
if the ppl live without current it is possible mr.
Full Speed Ahead, lite all boilers !
how do 2000 lbs create 3700 lbs must be that new math 2+2 is 9
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How do you calculate CO2 emissions from coal?
Carbon dioxide emissions per ton of coal were determined by multiplying heat content times the carbon coefficient times the fraction oxidized times the ratio of the molecular weight of carbon dioxide to that of carbon (44/12).
Production is booming at the world's biggest mine, despite Barack Obama's pledge to cut carbon emissions and combat climate change.
What did anyone expect, that he would actually do something about it? The guy has accomplished zero.
Justin Cook To be fair the guy before him didn't do anything either.
No surprise, trying to ween us off fossil fuel is like trying to take heroin off an addict. We need to break through that pain and face the facts, we are the prime cause of present day climate change and the cost will have to be paid eventually.
Piak Prongkarp since when did this have anything to do with "the guy before him"? I love how when people go after Obama the spinsters flip it right to "the other guy". You guys need to knock it off. Obama made many more promises he's renigged on compared to any of his predecessors.
Justin Cook Wow didn't mean to offend you. Please pardon me for my rudeness. Can we at least agree that both are useless?
That housewife reporter has no control over her personal finances.
Just 1 ton of coal, produces over 3,700 pounds of carbon?
That’s like saying my 230 pounds produces 1,000 pounds of sweat when it burns calories…
I live there my dad works there
same
Jay Rose tell you dad thank you for keeping our lights on.
Is it boring ?
Does he still have a job?
Ah "The Guardian".......I suppose we should make electricity with Pixie Dust? I hear it doesn't give off green house gases, is free and no Pixie's are ever harmed during the Pixie Dust harvest. What's not to love!
+darkmath100
very funny comment, one is grinning away happily here ;=)
+darkmath100 I would prefer uranium, thorium, and hydropower.
No we should use solar and wind power.
FruitGod220 Derpy Squid Dipshit, that's impossible. You'd have to cover the entire surface of the Earth with solar panels and wind-mills. Not to mention doing that is insanely expensive and no one can afford it. They just cancelled a Wind Farm near where I live because it was going to raise everyone's electric rates BECAUSE ALTERNATIVE ENERGY IS REALLY FUCKING EXPENSIVE.
+darkmath100 No, study's show the alternative power producers are becoming cheaper to build and man.
It's really hilarious to hear people still talk about global warming like its a real thing. GO COAL!!!!!!
Dynamo. Attach two wires and a light bulb and turn the core. The light bulb lights up. Take the principle to the industrial (Hoover Dam Plus the Colorado River) level and Vagas lights up.
I watched up until the left leaning socialists commented.
I 100% SUPPORT COAL.
1:38 how can 1 ton produce nearly 2 tons of co 2 ?
Leave the political agenda out. We want to know how the coal is mined
I’m curious if the reporter and the company that funded her spent any time in China asking the same questions? China is the worlds largest coal producing nation, 3550 ton in 2018. India is second. The USA is third. Did the reporter speak with anyone in India?
EXACTLY!!! Isn't it funny how only America has to shut down everything???
These lowlife politicians have a evil agenda and it's not for us!!!
did you realize the report is from 2014?
Most of the electricity in China is produced in coal fired plants
They'll never admit it, but coal is actually one of the cleanest sources of energy available. Also, far too valuable and useful to ever get rid of.
What? How? Carbon itself is bad for the atmosphere. It's atoms trap heat. Carbon is going to slowly dissappear. Maybe not 100% but it will one day to miniscule.
@@alvaro93364 yeahh 👍
@@alvaro93364 Ever hear of carbon capture ? Almost all of the contaminates from coal can be captured and used in other industries. You probably won't hear about it from mainstream media.
@Terry Rose but not everyone cares enough to do that. Why we don't have nuclear powered cars. People are too lazy or careless to take the proper precautions and proper disposal.
@@alvaro93364 Nuclear power will see it's day again. Several countries are on the verge of building a different type of reactor that is much safer than any of the older types. But in the meantime, we must have a reliable supply of fuel for energy production that can power our homes and industry. Coal and natural gas can meet those demands in the short term. We don't want the whole nation to endure what Texas went through because we put too much reliance on Green Energy.
funny that some research suggest that, there serious question climate and temp change
"To what extent are temperature levels changing due to greenhouse gas emissions?" Dagsvik og Moen
I moved to reno jct or Wright Wyoming, and worked for Daniel's construction building all this 79 to 81
The planets gonna change. We are still coming to the end of this ice age
It's no stanger planet is changing. The problem is that these changes are happening orders of magnitude faster than before industrial revolution. Environment struggles to adapt that fast and we might struggle too at some point
holy crap. they should change the title of this to I hate coal.
Loren Thomas the you hate electricity running water?????
You have to agree the scenery is beautiful.
Music makes it much better.!!!!!
Glad nobody stopped the climate from coming out of the ice age…..
The primary way human activity has altered the climate is through deforestation, but there's no money in fighting that. Since the sun is the source of our planet's heat, the way it meets the surface of the planet makes a big difference to the climate. On hot days, mature forests moderate climate by shading the ground and evaporating water to remain cool. On cold days, mature forest slows winds and insulates the ground, so cold fronts move slower and last longer. So it stands to reason that with less mature forest, the climate is more extreme. If we continue to reduce the amount of mature forest on earth, the climate will be dryer and more extreme regardless of how much coal we burn or don't burn.
It's been 3 years and barely anyone has seen this comment.
true
this doesn't make any sense, especially the conclusion. deforestation is often directly tied to coal mining.
boycott electricity if you want coal free world
@@vodkaboy did you know that Charmin is the global leader in deforestation for TP, where do you think the Amazon rain forest is going to
To everyone in the coal industry including myself...thank you for keeping our lights on
Coal industry is harmful to environment
@@sentientarugula2884 Where would we be without it? Our only other option to supply the needs of humanity right now is nuclear. Someday technology will make coal obsolete. When that day comes you will have your solution. Fact is that solar, wind and hydro together cannot replace the need for coal at this point. These are facts.
@@watchnlearn1001 those are not facts at all. solar wind and hydro can support energy needs.
You are totally and completely wrong, ignorant and clueless if you believe solar, wind and hydro can supply our energy needs.
They do it for money dude, not for you or anybody else
Powder River area is where the Plains Indian war began against the U.S.
1min 37sec "...one ton" (2,000lbs) "of coal produces 3,700 pounds of carbon emotions..." how does that work?
+jephers29 I noticed that also, not sure how that works. Maybe the same math they use to make their climate models?
+jephers29 When Coal is burned, oxygen is added to the carbon. Hence, the combustion products mass more than the input fuel. CO2 is 1 atom of carbon, and 2 atoms of oxygen. The oxygen wasn't in the coal originally.
Surely, coal contains Carbon which was taken from the Earth's atmosphere in the first place, so burning it is only returning the Carbon from whence it came, i.e. Closed Cycle?
hold on . the power plant in Estevan Saskatchewan I'd working on a big carbon capture unit that has so far proven itself to work and it is burning cleaner then any natural gas power plant today
It only doubles the price of electricity and it breaks down a lot.
America needs coal, and coal miners.
Hows that coal working out? I heard you might have had a couple layoffs.
This is what happens when Lobbyists and not elected parties run the country.
Citizens stand up!
wow that is pretty awesome and lovely machine and use for digging hole in the mountain..coal .for our power energy addiction...
I was brought here because of a science assignment lol.
When you are freezing your ass off in the dark, then tell me you are concerned about CO2 emissions or climate change.
Be honest. Have warmth and light in the Winter, or freeze to death in the dark? Can't have it both ways.
7 years ago and not much has changed except the climate
Also, increased atmospheric co2 encourages plant and forest growth making the earth more green
Except that we keep bulldozing the green to make more urban sprawl or cattle ranches. Or we turn it into paper and houses. Also, this "added green" is often taking the form of algal blooms, which harm the ecosystems they occur in.
I was hoping to see the mine.
Does anyone look at a co2 gas emissions graph from millions of years ago to today? Greenhouse gases are off the charts.
This is a quarry, why do they keep calling it “a mine”?
it's an open cast mine
In this day and age, quarry is really only used to stone mining operations. Besides that, MSHA has specific training for open pit coal & metal/nonmetal operations and that varies from the quarry safety training. MSHA really cracked down on having specific safety standards for each different type of mining operation because of all the fatalities, and thus open pit coal mines & metal/nonmetal mines were distinguished.
This is old actually black thunder coal mine is now the biggest coal mine in the world
its a shame its so polluting it is very aviable energy
I thought they will goin to show underground mining
shut off all coal powered plants for one day... see what happens. and black thunder is bigger. 1600 employees with familys. all those electric cars? charged by coal power.......
Add power plants to the 77,600 dams which don't have any; build 300 1,000 megawatt nuclear reactors; and add 130 gigawatts of geothermal power and we would be fine.
@@Jemalacane0 where is the money coming from
Nuclear fuels are about 2 million times as energy dense as fossil fuels. The United States has about 800,000 tons of nuclear fuel. The United States also has the potential for 130 gigawatts of installed geothermal electrical generating capacity and about 144 gigawatts of installed hydropower generating capacity. The United States also has an unknown potential for biomass generated electricity as well as wind and solar. So, no, we do not need coal for electricity.
WE do if we want it cheap!
People don't have any idea of where there electricity comes from! Ask anyone you know, most don't have a clue. Coal fired power plants. The coal is used to heat the water, make steam to power a turbine. 56% of the power in this country is derived from coal. 12 million tons annually is mined. Most plants slated to close in the next few years and we have 350 years worth of coal left.
The lady was telling a lie how can 2000 lbs of coal produce 3400 lbs of CO2.
Russell Mattingly - unfortunately, you have to count the oxygen in the CO2, not just the carbon.
What a joke of an interview and an interview in general.
There's always going to be a byproduct of production. Whether you're mining coal or copper or lithium, there's always going to be a mine, there's always going to be a machine rolling around on steel or rubber, there's always going to be some form of material needed to make something and that process will always create some unwanted byproduct. It's a noble side to say that you love earth and want to protect it, we all do however, and people need a logical path to follow in order to change industries. And it can't be forgotten than thousands and thousands of men and women are employed by the industry to be phased out, and will need to be retrained and provided new wages. That all has to come into thought. Capitalism is great but has little mercy for the worker when industry changes, and in the end, it is up to the individuals to retrain themselves if they want to stay in the workforce. Now automation, that is a dangerous thing..
What's your company's position on carbon emissions? Ah...... Ah.......Ah!
It's -23F below zero.More coal in the furnace please.
"1 ton of coal produces 3700lbs of carbon dioxide emissions." Wait, what? That violates the laws of physics. Creation/destruction of matter. Where is the extra 1700lbs of matter coming from?
+Spencer Gaunt From the atmosphere. When coal burns, the carbon joins with the oxygen in the atmosphere to form CO2 molecules. The oxygen in the atmosphere can add mass.
Thats what I was thinking.
Global Warming propaganda at it's finest, be proud to bring that dusty black gold up people, my respect !!!
Lol, very funny that we disagree on the exact opposite things with the Guardian , worst constalation. What do you think is lied about Islam and Migration? Yes, you're right the market will have a good supply which will drive the prices down , but if coal-energy conversion can be bettered the demand might increase , adnvanced tech is used in coal mining already and with less effort and more quantity brought up the less likely it is that companies will abondan that ressource, CJTaylor 87
CJTaylor 87 The Guardian has a leftist agenda, if a leftist agenda is clearly spotted then there is no need to wonder that nomatter who contradicts that agenda will be put into bad lights we don't know anything else from those established media outlets. We must not seek for anything idealistic and abstract, far away from our desires and needs, if we do we will fail and the effort is wasted. First of all you need to convince all the people who are against this green energy agenda, you need the proof for them that climate change is heavly influenced by us, if you can't they will never follow and if you want to enforce that on them it will backlash. You don't stick with coal to hold people employed, work isn't there for work, work is there for satisfieng demands and needs, coal mines are owned by individuals who have a right of ownership they have their personal needs and wishes and have property rights to use that coal which is only mined because someone else has a demand on it. Tesla is good and Elon Musk is a genuis and has a good attitude and intends, but the cars are not yet there to replace mustangs,lambos etc. I love the tesla s maybe I prefer it before a mustang maybe not but that is just my personal feeling, demands are subjective you can't decide what someone loves.
Great Vid homie
I guess she doesn’t know that coal powers her Tesla.
The lights, microphones, and cameras operated to produce this video were probably all functioned off of coal-based electricity.
Or lithium batteries
i know it is a 6 year old video, but you can still report it for being misleading.
we need all fuel types
One ton of coal makes almost twice as much by weight in carbon dioxide? Something does not agree with chemistry.
She's spouting garbage.
coal is carbon, that carbon bonds with oxygen in the atmosphere, hence the larger weight
Carbon Dioxide is one atom of Carbon (weighing 12u) binded with it two atoms of oxygen (16u each). So theoretically from pure elemental carbon you can get 7300lbs of CO2 from 2000 lbs of C it if burned perfectly. The rest of it comes from atmospheric oxygen.
Of course not every bit of it is burned, slightly CO is produced you have ashes and so on, so the number is much lower
What exactly does not agree with chemistry?