You guys might want to take a look at the personal security implications of the Ring line-up. Things like the police being able to take information from them from Amazon without a warrant. Just saying...
As a start up electrical company I adore your content and videos. I always learn something from the five star electricians ! Thank you this was another great video
Great company providing all the tools and gear, I was still chasing walls by hand and drilling through brick walls with 18v dewalt non sds, till about 3 years ago and went on my own was q nightmare
I love all the sounds - mine had the update with the Halloween sounds too!! I like how you can get the doorbell to say “sorry I’m not interested” after 20 seconds of not answering :-)
Great video guys! One thing I'd like to point out is that buying an Echo Dot is much more worth the money instead of a Chime (if the Chime isn't already included in the deal). They are often offered with a discount and can do a lot more things.
I have got to agree we use Echo dots instead of a chime, I have one in the garage so every time the camera is triggered Alexa chirps out “motion detected at the front door” and any scrote approaching knows he has been spotted. Echo Shows are also useful for seeing and communicating who is at your door saves hunting round for your phone.
Well done - excellent explanation - as an electrician myself I would not have messed up the cove for the transformer's enclosure - I would have drilled a 20mm clearance hole through the side of both enclosures - each to their own - great work.
Just an armchair suggestion, you might consider squirting a little bit of dielectric / silicon grease in the wire nuts to coat the wires so they won't corrode over time. I know your in an extremely dry climate there. 😁😁 Similar to the underground lawn sprinkler valve connectors that are already filled with them. Every little bit helps when its exposed to the rain over time.
Really nice and well explained - another excellent video. Keep up guys. I had a similar installation recently to my property. I installed an 16v door bell so I had to use a transformer. I did my research, I bought all the parts, I did all the planning of the installation but I called a certified electrician to do it for me. Despite being really into all DIY and that, I never mess around with electricity and especially when it has to do with the fuse box.
With some help and a ton of equipment,easy! I settled for a speaker doorbell,just a few minutes to install,and done! Companies try to talk me into one of these,but they don't mention the cost or the work involved. Educational watching you two though.
I have Ring products and have for many years, one big criticism I have and it's worth other people being aware of is that they are vulnerable to Wi-Fi jammers, so if someone is jamming the Wi-Fi signal it won't detect anything and will not notify you... I've experienced this myself, a neighbour had an attempted break in and both mine and my next door neighbours front doorbells didn't get any footage from the doorbell, despite them being within range, what did capture them however was our drive way ring camera, which must have been just out of range of the jammer
Nice job! Just a question; The previous Ring doorbells were low voltage ac powered, I see that they have now gone to 24v dc. I didn’t see any visible polarity marks on the back of the doorbell?
Not sure I would use the pigtails and wire nuts on the doorbell. I typically would crimp spade lugs on the twinlead from the transformer. Fewer connections means higher reliability IMO.
You can get a ring plug in transformer too if there's a plug socket near the entrance. Just wish they doubled it up as a ring chime too, wouldve been neat
Next door looks to have a lovely black armoured cable down the front of their house! Maybe you could offer to do a bit of angle drilling to find a better route (for a small fee!!)
Yes, fit a ring a system and protect your van and property for peace of mind. Whilst fast asleep during the night or away from your mobile which you left on the table whilst working in someone's loft, your van gets emptied. You check your video footage (assuming you pay the subscription to back it up to the cloud) and there they are, captured in high definition wearing face coverings/masks etc. Problem solved, worth every penny.
Did you know that a family in the UK who have one of these ring doorbells has just lost a case in court? A neibour claimed that the ring doorbell was an invasion of their privacy as it picked them up as they left their home or walked past the house. This is a concerning development as it could lead to the scrapping of the law relating to no presumption to privacy in public. On another note the screw drivers are useless as they are not magnetic which means that it's very easy to loose the bottom mounted screws.
For DIY install, mount the transformer box near a 13A socket, add in a grommet and cable to plug and the entire install becomes an appliance. Not forgetting there seems to be a thriving market in stolen ring doorbells. It is a shame when the security device itself becomes the target for theft.
@ 2:20 I assume it is called a 'Pro' doorbell because they are designed for 'Pro Consumers'... Ring literally sell a separate transformer for their wired doorbells which allow you to power them via a standard 3 pin plug socket. So technically there is no need for an electrician for this install. As long as you are confident with a drill and are capable of plugging a device into a socket then I'd say you're good to go with the install yourself.
Interesting regarding the legal event on the recent judgment made on the ring door bell and the case being won. The case involved claims for harassment, breach of data protection, and nuisance. worth looking into regarding fitting them and discussing with neighbours that live close to one another to avoid any problems in the future.
UK version of Ring Pro 2 door bell doesn't come with all the features and also no transformer in the packaging. Only the US version comes with transformer and full features.
Nice video. Just wondering if you fitted the self-resetting fuse, the little white box (pro power V.2) on the output cable within the 2 module din rail enclosure.
Exactly. I bet it's really frustrating watching a thief break into your van live in 4k UHD and there's nothing you can do about it because you're in the Bahamas.
@Ellis The DJ “yes officer it was a tall skinny person (gender neutral and all that 😂) wearing a black hoody, black Adidas tracky bottoms and Nike Air Max 95’s” Describes about oh I dunno 90% of the Chav population in almost every town or city. Shouldn’t be too hard to track them down.
@@farmersteve129 ain’t that the truth , also priority is mixed up big time attend a shop lifting report in 5 mins but when my neighbour was being robbed and attacked with a knife took nearly an hour. I get safety evaluation and all that but isn’t their job to protect no matter what the situation not let joe public get stabbed multiple times because they’re “to scared” to risk getting attacked themselves doing the job they’re paid to do yet your average private in the army gets paid far less between 20-24k compared to 16-18k
The wire is not unter the tiles, its in the roof cavity, he removed the tiles made a hole in the membrane and then fished down into the wall cavity... then ran the wire through the roof cavity (roofer would not find it until they removed the tiles,batons and membrane, they would then see it in the roof cavity, very normal), he probably then patched the membrane with tape and put the tiles back on.
Great video as usual. Only problem for me was that my Alsatian always barks when she hears the default ring tone on my ring door bell. You guessed it, every time you sounded that default tone she was barking and running to my front door. One very confused dog here. Funny to watch.
New question, rather than adding to the wiring circuit and needing a minor works certificate, can I remove the old doorbell transformer and bell from the wall, use the existing load wires to power the included transformer and wire the ring camera that way, so it's more like an upgrade rather than an additional installation, which won't need a minor installation certificate?
When you think it's called Pro because it needs a "pro" to install it. Apart from the transformer that comes with it and some additional features it's exactly the same as the regular ring door Bell. Both have batteries both can be hard wired. Any doorbell transformer is compatible.
just a quick question, it's a DC voltage applied to the doorbell but the terminals aren't marked + - and the cables they provide are both black, do you see where i'm going with this?
@@front2427That question had been bugging me too. The Ring information that I have seen says that if you are making use of an existing transformer present in a door bell system, the output must be within certain AC voltage (RMS) and VA range. However, their own plug in power adapter is 24V DC 🙄. As you say, no apparent polarity on the camera/wires. For clarity, the DIN rail item appears to be a transformer/Rectifier.
I have the ring pro 2 also. It's showing offline as of recently and is showing as 4v and says the transformer is not supplying enough power. What would be the problem?
I have just bought the Ring 2nd gen video doorbell and I plan to hardwire it to where my existing DETA door chime is beside the front door , its already got the mains power incoming and bell wire going to a button outside (where the device will be fitted) so easy install My question is looking at all the available transformers and their housings isn’t there a better aesthetics unit available by now, they are all massive and rather ugly to be fitted where the slightly better looking DETA unit once was. i was thinking surely by now Ring has a hard wired Chime box with an internal Transformer to power an external Ring-Video unit???
Remember Ring is A US company they are big on Halloween hence all the trick or treat type chimes for the kids at Halloween going round ringing doorbells.
Great video. While this isn't a DIY job, can I do the grunt work up until the spurring off a lighting circuit, drilling through the cavity, wiring the Ring, and having it all ready to connect up to the consumer unit, then having a qualified spark come out and connect it up?
Hi great video really helping me prepare for installation. Please can I ask what size wire did you use to link the doorbell to the transformer is it 0.5mm or 0.75mm thank you
I'm a DIY guy only, my in laws have asked me to install their ring door bell, turns out it's hardwire, they hav an existing doorbell that's not on its own circuit, and wired to something else in the consumer unit (not sure where at the moment) is it possible to not used the included transformer and just wire it to the existing set up, providing its the same in/output power, so I'm not effectively adding to the system? Thanks in advance
Should the secondary side of the transformer be protected by a fuse. If the ring door bell was to short circuit the transformer could overheat and maybe burn the house down? Just asking.
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TOOLMATE will replace any tools at cost if you provide proof of theft , crime reference number or insurance claim.
You guys might want to take a look at the personal security implications of the Ring line-up. Things like the police being able to take information from them from Amazon without a warrant. Just saying...
do i need to charge/replace the battery? or the wired keeps it fully charged?
Plot twist, Jordan’s fitted the door bell to make sure Lee’s not having any early finishes so he can check up when he starts and finishes work 😂👌🏻
Thats why he set it up on Jordans phone I noticed that. No 2pm finishes for him anymore 😢
Facts lol
I like the way they cut a hole in the felt in say the FOUND the access hole to cavity LOL 😂 🤣 🤣
Lee is so lucky to learn from you, knowing that he is being taught how to do things properly.
Taking cables down cavitys....yeah hes really taught him well 🤣🤣🤣
Get some decent deadlocks fitted on the van,can highly recommend Sussex Installations in Eastbourne for van security .
I agree Sussex installations do decent quality work. 👍
These two are brilliant 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙂🙂
Ok, so after watching the video 5 times 😮 tackled mine today and went an absolute treat thanks to this very detailed video, thank you very much!!
As a start up electrical company I adore your content and videos. I always learn something from the five star electricians ! Thank you this was another great video
Never seen a company look after their employees like Jordan does. I’m lucky to get a new pair of knee pads from my boss lol
Thanks
Great company providing all the tools and gear, I was still chasing walls by hand and drilling through brick walls with 18v dewalt non sds, till about 3 years ago and went on my own was q nightmare
Pretty sure this was provided free by Ring.
I love all the sounds - mine had the update with the Halloween sounds too!! I like how you can get the doorbell to say “sorry I’m not interested” after 20 seconds of not answering :-)
Always good vibes. Bee watching artisan videos for a while now. Jordan, you are a true inspiration. Stay blessed
I appreciate that!
Great video guys! One thing I'd like to point out is that buying an Echo Dot is much more worth the money instead of a Chime (if the Chime isn't already included in the deal). They are often offered with a discount and can do a lot more things.
I have got to agree we use Echo dots instead of a chime, I have one in the garage so every time the camera is triggered Alexa chirps out “motion detected at the front door” and any scrote approaching knows he has been spotted. Echo Shows are also useful for seeing and communicating who is at your door saves hunting round for your phone.
Well done - excellent explanation - as an electrician myself I would not have messed up the cove for the transformer's enclosure - I would have drilled a 20mm clearance hole through the side of both enclosures - each to their own - great work.
Just an armchair suggestion, you might consider squirting a little bit of dielectric / silicon grease in the wire nuts to coat the wires so they won't corrode over time. I know your in an extremely dry climate there. 😁😁 Similar to the underground lawn sprinkler valve connectors that are already filled with them. Every little bit helps when its exposed to the rain over time.
Cracking stuff. SelectaDNA are a good thing to look into as well, internal van alarm etc. Just throw what you can at keeping your stuff safe.
The blokes not going to cut a access hatch into a tiny porch ceiling
Really nice and well explained - another excellent video. Keep up guys. I had a similar installation recently to my property. I installed an 16v door bell so I had to use a transformer. I did my research, I bought all the parts, I did all the planning of the installation but I called a certified electrician to do it for me. Despite being really into all DIY and that, I never mess around with electricity and especially when it has to do with the fuse box.
Lee is FIT 😍😍😍
I've been using the WYZE video doorbell for a fraction of the price, bought a din rail transformer of eBay for about £15.
With some help and a ton of equipment,easy! I settled for a speaker doorbell,just a few minutes to install,and done! Companies try to talk me into one of these,but they don't mention the cost or the work involved. Educational watching you two though.
Recently just done mine but took the lazy route as I’m no electrician. I bought the plug in adapter 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The marksmen is a godsend . Best British invention.
I have Ring products and have for many years, one big criticism I have and it's worth other people being aware of is that they are vulnerable to Wi-Fi jammers, so if someone is jamming the Wi-Fi signal it won't detect anything and will not notify you... I've experienced this myself, a neighbour had an attempted break in and both mine and my next door neighbours front doorbells didn't get any footage from the doorbell, despite them being within range, what did capture them however was our drive way ring camera, which must have been just out of range of the jammer
Nice job! Just a question; The previous Ring doorbells were low voltage ac powered, I see that they have now gone to 24v dc. I didn’t see any visible polarity marks on the back of the doorbell?
Not sure I would use the pigtails and wire nuts on the doorbell.
I typically would crimp spade lugs on the twinlead from the transformer.
Fewer connections means higher reliability IMO.
Quite. why do they not just supply the spade crimps for the "pro" installer to attach directly to the cable.
Me too... introducing potential dry joints / resistance, a no no IMO
Ok this bothered me too.
You can get a ring plug in transformer too if there's a plug socket near the entrance. Just wish they doubled it up as a ring chime too, wouldve been neat
Excellent video. Clear, informative and at a speed and pace that’s easy to follow. Well done. 👍
I'm surprised you guys didn't go for the one that has poe, as wifi is pretty easy to jam
Next door looks to have a lovely black armoured cable down the front of their house! Maybe you could offer to do a bit of angle drilling to find a better route (for a small fee!!)
Haha well spotted!
Jordan seems like a great boss
Yes, fit a ring a system and protect your van and property for peace of mind. Whilst fast asleep during the night or away from your mobile which you left on the table whilst working in someone's loft, your van gets emptied. You check your video footage (assuming you pay the subscription to back it up to the cloud) and there they are, captured in high definition wearing face coverings/masks etc. Problem solved, worth every penny.
Did you know that a family in the UK who have one of these ring doorbells has just lost a case in court? A neibour claimed that the ring doorbell was an invasion of their privacy as it picked them up as they left their home or walked past the house. This is a concerning development as it could lead to the scrapping of the law relating to no presumption to privacy in public. On another note the screw drivers are useless as they are not magnetic which means that it's very easy to loose the bottom mounted screws.
More to that than just the door bell, neighbour has exactly the same door bell but wasn't invited to court..
For DIY install, mount the transformer box near a 13A socket, add in a grommet and cable to plug and the entire install becomes an appliance. Not forgetting there seems to be a thriving market in stolen ring doorbells. It is a shame when the security device itself becomes the target for theft.
Seen the anti thief cases?
Locks and safe have been stolen. 😅
The barbarian invasion has begun.
@ 2:20 I assume it is called a 'Pro' doorbell because they are designed for 'Pro Consumers'... Ring literally sell a separate transformer for their wired doorbells which allow you to power them via a standard 3 pin plug socket. So technically there is no need for an electrician for this install. As long as you are confident with a drill and are capable of plugging a device into a socket then I'd say you're good to go with the install yourself.
Interesting regarding the legal event on the recent judgment made on the ring door bell and the case being won. The case involved claims for harassment, breach of data protection, and nuisance. worth looking into regarding fitting them and discussing with neighbours that live close to one another to avoid any problems in the future.
UK version of Ring Pro 2 door bell doesn't come with all the features and also no transformer in the packaging. Only the US version comes with transformer and full features.
yes this is true,,where do youget the transformer from
This video is really high quality! Very nice watch :)
Hope the felt was repaired under the roof tiles 🙈
Now that’s a pro install 👌🏼
You could have gone side entry to/from the din enclosure/CU save hacking the coving away like that !
Great video chaps. Thumbs up
Make sure you put a sign up saying images sound are being recorded. Someone just fined £100k in the UK for using a ring doorbell.
Nice video. Just wondering if you fitted the self-resetting fuse, the little white box (pro power V.2) on the output cable within the 2 module din rail enclosure.
All good and well until the thief covers themselves with a hoody doesn’t matter how much you spend on cameras
Exactly. I bet it's really frustrating watching a thief break into your van live in 4k UHD and there's nothing you can do about it because you're in the Bahamas.
@Ellis The DJ “yes officer it was a tall skinny person (gender neutral and all that 😂) wearing a black hoody, black Adidas tracky bottoms and Nike Air Max 95’s”
Describes about oh I dunno 90% of the Chav population in almost every town or city. Shouldn’t be too hard to track them down.
I wouldn't worry - the police are rarely ever interested in the footage anyway
@@farmersteve129 ain’t that the truth , also priority is mixed up big time attend a shop lifting report in 5 mins but when my neighbour was being robbed and attacked with a knife took nearly an hour. I get safety evaluation and all that but isn’t their job to protect no matter what the situation not let joe public get stabbed multiple times because they’re “to scared” to risk getting attacked themselves doing the job they’re paid to do yet your average private in the army gets paid far less between 20-24k compared to 16-18k
@@farmersteve129 Not just uninterested but the actively do not want it.
Where you’ve installed the doorbell, will the wall light cause any problems when illuminated? Is it an up/downlighter?
Sussex Installations can fit your vans with some very secure additional dead locks have you tried them yet?
They are amazing and based in my hometown
@@kobirelf97 For sure they are the Wizards in making your van (and Living) secure!
Are there any regs (Building or Electrical) covering the routing of cables under the tiles? Not something your roofer would expect.
The wire is not unter the tiles, its in the roof cavity, he removed the tiles made a hole in the membrane and then fished down into the wall cavity... then ran the wire through the roof cavity (roofer would not find it until they removed the tiles,batons and membrane, they would then see it in the roof cavity, very normal), he probably then patched the membrane with tape and put the tiles back on.
Do you mind telling me what brand of metal enclosure for the transformer you used? Cheers
Great work team!!! Very funny "Scream" your face. Make me laugh so hard. Thumbs up! Cheers!
Question, does the cable material and insulation's not react with eachother? or can you run cables in cavities for door bells and exterior lights?
This is such an excellent quality tutorial. Really clear and well detailed. Thanks.
Great video as usual. Only problem for me was that my Alsatian always barks when she hears the default ring tone on my ring door bell. You guessed it, every time you sounded that default tone she was barking and running to my front door. One very confused dog here. Funny to watch.
🤣👍
Where did the DIN rail come from? Included?
What bell cable did you use? I cant find any that meet the specs besides alarm cables.
Do you have to put 2 screws on the ring pro 2 to attach to back plate as my ring pro doesn’t click into the back plate
New question, rather than adding to the wiring circuit and needing a minor works certificate, can I remove the old doorbell transformer and bell from the wall, use the existing load wires to power the included transformer and wire the ring camera that way, so it's more like an upgrade rather than an additional installation, which won't need a minor installation certificate?
I am looking for the transformer and the enclosure. Where can i get it?
10:44 this long wire was not supplied with my ring doorbell, did you buy it extra, where can I get it from please?
When you think it's called Pro because it needs a "pro" to install it. Apart from the transformer that comes with it and some additional features it's exactly the same as the regular ring door Bell. Both have batteries both can be hard wired. Any doorbell transformer is compatible.
A good way to DIY it is to run the transformer to a 3way plug. No issues there will the fuse board 😀
That's cool, it's themed chimes for the season, Halloween it is for now 🎃👻 try it again at Christmas
My boss once told me its what you dont see in an installation that makes a great electrician .
How about feeding the transformer from the permanent light feed / ceiling rose?
Great video guys 👏 may look installing this myself, the picture quality is brilliant. Great idea using the cavity wall and roof tiles for the wiring.
Thanks yeah it’s a great bit of kit!
CJR electrical (Chris) installed the same thing (Including enclosure) 2 days ago.
Made my own wedge from a piece of tilt fillet long before a bespoke wedge was available as my Ring was going in an internal corner
Really fair boss! Great work Jordan. This is why your successful
What size bell wire did you use ?
The ring website says that 18 gauge wire is the ideal size. But what is this in UK mm2?
Many thanks
Looks like Ring have been sending these out to TH-cam electricians. 2nd one I have seen this week
Everyone of them forget to mention the monthly costs if you want to make it actually useful.
How did you manage to get the Doorbell picture quality/Wi-Fi connection so good ?
Just before opening TH-cam to watch this, I was checking on my van.
Sad reality, but something that comes with van ownership these days...
We’ve all been there
@@artisanelectrics The UK is a really shit place these days.
just a quick question, it's a DC voltage applied to the doorbell but the terminals aren't marked + - and the cables they provide are both black, do you see where i'm going with this?
Polarity doesn’t really matter on this device
are you sure its dc?
@@front2427That question had been bugging me too. The Ring information that I have seen says that if you are making use of an existing transformer present in a door bell system, the output must be within certain AC voltage (RMS) and VA range. However, their own plug in power adapter is 24V DC 🙄. As you say, no apparent polarity on the camera/wires. For clarity, the DIN rail item appears to be a transformer/Rectifier.
I have the ring pro 2 also. It's showing offline as of recently and is showing as 4v and says the transformer is not supplying enough power. What would be the problem?
Very professional, great video guy's. 👍
Thanks!
Can I use the power from a wall socket instead of the fuse board? 🙈.
Love your video editing and videos really easy to follow
where did the wire nuts sit? inside the wall or inside the wedge?
Usually I don't write comments, most of the time give a like :).. But This is a good job 👏
Is this one that Lee gets Jordan to do more work than he does
Does the DIN metal enclosure come in the kit or separate?
I have just bought the Ring 2nd gen video doorbell and I plan to hardwire it to where my existing DETA door chime is beside the front door , its already got the mains power incoming and bell wire going to a button outside (where the device will be fitted) so easy install
My question is looking at all the available transformers and their housings isn’t there a better aesthetics unit available by now, they are all massive and rather ugly to be fitted where the slightly better looking DETA unit once was.
i was thinking surely by now Ring has a hard wired Chime box with an internal Transformer to power an external Ring-Video unit???
Great video.
But can't you wire up a spring loaded boxing glove in the van in case someone breaks in.
Remember to duck when opening the van yourself 😂
What cable are you using here please?
Hey, what marker is that? the one used to mark out the wedge? Thanks in advance!
These guys look so cool . 😅
what is the chime thing for?
Really nice recommendation for a video, really enjoy seeing more videos like this from UK based tradesmen. Great video, great explanation 👍
Great thanks!
Great jobs boys
What cable you using Jordan
Remember Ring is A US company they are big on Halloween hence all the trick or treat type chimes for the kids at Halloween going round ringing doorbells.
I already installed but I would like to change to wiring, light switch plug is 30cm far away can I connecting that?
Great video. While this isn't a DIY job, can I do the grunt work up until the spurring off a lighting circuit, drilling through the cavity, wiring the Ring, and having it all ready to connect up to the consumer unit, then having a qualified spark come out and connect it up?
How would you wire this to a chime? I know ring have compatible chimes
I’ve seen installations of these din rail transformers with an in line fuse, is that necessary?
Hi great video really helping me prepare for installation. Please can I ask what size wire did you use to link the doorbell to the transformer is it 0.5mm or 0.75mm thank you
Did you have to put a resistor load on the installation on the ring website it states that you do?
Can you please tell me the door bell unit require AC or DC
It’s little confusing
Do MK/Honeywell make 24v Transformer for a MK DB to power RING doorbells?
I'm a DIY guy only, my in laws have asked me to install their ring door bell, turns out it's hardwire, they hav an existing doorbell that's not on its own circuit, and wired to something else in the consumer unit (not sure where at the moment) is it possible to not used the included transformer and just wire it to the existing set up, providing its the same in/output power, so I'm not effectively adding to the system?
Thanks in advance
Can you not use this without the transformer? As I have this and no idea what to do with it
Should the secondary side of the transformer be protected by a fuse. If the ring door bell was to short circuit the transformer could overheat and maybe burn the house down? Just asking.
The primary side is fused at the distribution board, so no need to do it again at the secondary.