WHY ISN'T MY HIGH USELESS APM AUTO WIN??? | Is It IMBA Or Do I Suck

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  • APM - there are a lot of myths about it. How important is it? Does higher APM really equal a better player? Or is random hotkey-spam with rapid fire actually a waste of time? Well, it is. But don't tell the Zergs!
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  • @ToTheNines87368
    @ToTheNines87368 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    28:12 probably just executed the ravager for treason against the viper. Seems fair, all though I believe in a fair trial.

    • @SaulGoodman3D2049
      @SaulGoodman3D2049 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      But there was more than 1 bile responsible for killing that viper. It was a drumhead trial and he was the scapegoat.

    • @ToTheNines87368
      @ToTheNines87368 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@SaulGoodman3D2049 true! Or perhaps it was squad wide punishment by “decimation” where 1 in 10 soldier is chosen by lottery and then beaten to death by his comrades. A very specific and historical thing…

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I sometimes execute my workers for delaying my spawning pool by going to long distance mine on the backside of minerals on my 1st hatchery. I hate them so much for this.

    • @spagettech
      @spagettech ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ToTheNines87368 seeing as it was his fellow ravagers who targeted him down that seems the most likely to me.

  • @meandmyself1600
    @meandmyself1600 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    Ravager kills Viper, Ravager gets punished - Hard rules in Ludo's team

    • @hamster_designs
      @hamster_designs ปีที่แล้ว +35

      They only follow, when they fear you!

  • @GoodMomo
    @GoodMomo ปีที่แล้ว +387

    As a Zerg player, I often come into these ZvT videos thinking "Hey, they probably have a point" and then I see them ignoring 29 larvae with 2.5K minerals in the bank and then I realize they never had a point.

    • @Name-ru1kt
      @Name-ru1kt ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree that was dumb but he was almost doubling his opponents bases. It is pretty hard lose that

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Name-ru1kt i manage. It's called "chucking a zerg"

    • @damedley75
      @damedley75 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I feel the same way when I watch my own replays.

    • @CasualCosta
      @CasualCosta ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I suspect he didn't want to make zerglings, as they would just die on a straight up engagement against blue-flame hellbats. You can see he spent his gas as it came. Had he set zerglings runbies, he'd have won, probably.

    • @LasseLundster
      @LasseLundster ปีที่แล้ว

      You can do this to yourself in every single game you lose too :D Sincerly, zerg

  • @mastaofkush
    @mastaofkush ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Hamster is the best editor I've ever seen, even better than the editors of channels with millions of subscribers.
    That Trade Info window alone is so underrated. The way you even calculated the cost of repairs during the fight....insane.
    The fact that your name is an anagram of Harstem as well is just a cherry on top. (I thought you WERE Harstem for the longest time because of that fact.)
    Chef's Kiss!

    • @thewatcherinthecloud
      @thewatcherinthecloud ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That being said, I also like the Protoss build order on 3:47. Opening up Overlord on Protoss is probably the most imba thing I have seen on this channel.
      (I know it's a typo. The editing thus far is stellar)

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@thewatcherinthecloud perhaps Hamster knew that behind the scenes there was a toss overmind controlling the Z side of this battle. :-)

    • @SapphirosCZ
      @SapphirosCZ ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He has lot of time to improve, being locked in Harstem´s basement for years.

    • @LyuboRyuk
      @LyuboRyuk 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I LOVE the edit. Great work 👏

  • @jpVari
    @jpVari ปีที่แล้ว +43

    No one would ever abandon the best scene of the best strategy game... That's too crazy of an example at the end there

  • @mh1593
    @mh1593 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    The reason there was persistently 9 unused larvae is because Ludo had a hatchery that they hadn't hotkeyed with the others, so they must have been training units from all hatches except one....

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I do that all the time haha I feel so mad when i realize

    • @spandanganguli6903
      @spandanganguli6903 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This has happened before on Iodis too.

    • @binkibonko69
      @binkibonko69 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      omfg

    • @user-vh4oo9nm8k
      @user-vh4oo9nm8k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sakesaurusyeh its a forgivable and yet massive mistake. Especially towards the late game when bases start going down u rebuild them forget to hotkey it coz theres so much going on, but you desperately need the larva.

  • @nathangamble125
    @nathangamble125 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    This is probably the best IIIODIS gameplay I've seen... or it was until the Zerg forgot to build units.

    • @hamster_designs
      @hamster_designs ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Relatable though ^^

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well. The zerg player doesn't have to macro well. He throws away all the advantage macro give him. He could probably say play some low drone aggression builds. I feel like that would be more enjoyable. Or play a different race.

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I didn't mean go roast him, I just think that he has more of a career in ling bane early aggression with his apm.

    • @basedandredpilled7920
      @basedandredpilled7920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zerg can rebuild in 2 seconds so usually it shouldn't matter.

    • @zombieGI
      @zombieGI ปีที่แล้ว

      He is probably a Warcraft 3 player that never understood the reason for not maxing out, he just knew pros do it and know thinks its better for economy

  • @sevenpolar3483
    @sevenpolar3483 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Ludo was clearly saving larva and resources so he could make 10 more emergency corrupters if he saw a viking

    • @BatkoNashBandera774
      @BatkoNashBandera774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He was investing in his zerg cabal future, first step to successful zerg = larvae.

  • @Gt07mk
    @Gt07mk ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I actually spat my food out during the Viper commentary. Well done Captain.

    • @Shoes51
      @Shoes51 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      absolutely amazing lmao

  • @darnokx9277
    @darnokx9277 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "This game is over, as long as we don't take the worlds worst fight in the next few minutes..." ... oh my sweet summer child. XD

  • @lvo9197
    @lvo9197 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    5:30 Actually, using your forehead to absorb the impact of a punch and actually hurt the knuckles of your opponent used to be a common and effective strategy in the days of bareknuckle boxing (that s why the stances where wider and hands lower back in the day, punching the face was risky), since the bones from the craneum are much harder than those of the hand. Just saying

    • @ToTheNines87368
      @ToTheNines87368 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Regardless I wouldn’t recommend it lol.

    • @jaimelannister9933
      @jaimelannister9933 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ToTheNines87368 CTE has entered the chat.

    • @meanoldfatlady5071
      @meanoldfatlady5071 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Akshualy 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

    • @benolzinoproductions7110
      @benolzinoproductions7110 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah... All tho that is true, it doesnt make it a good strategy.

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ToTheNines87368 are you an expert in bareknuckle boxing?

  • @Rtsvillain
    @Rtsvillain ปีที่แล้ว +3

    your talking about Halo Wars2. Best strategy game ever made, 0 support, 0 advertisement, swept under the rug and hidden forever

  • @MaisonJ
    @MaisonJ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:51 build order protoss!!

  • @ryfors
    @ryfors ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My gosh hamster, the seamless camera-swap at 19:21, you really are the best

  • @BoilingHades
    @BoilingHades ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow, not building zergling is not thing i would have bet to see in my lifetime span

  • @swooooop
    @swooooop ปีที่แล้ว +10

    dang harstem the production quality is really improved with this split screen and animated editor's note - LPL cameo etc. I love this series good job man

  • @seena09
    @seena09 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video was weird to me because my tag is Ludo is as well. And as a 4k NA Zerg player, I felt like Harstem was talking to me the whole time.

  • @nickray4534
    @nickray4534 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the blizzard comparison... amazing lol

  • @sketrik
    @sketrik ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the LPL reference lol - weird to see two communities I associate heavily with cross over randomly

    • @hamster_designs
      @hamster_designs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, who isn't a fan of LPL? ^^

    • @caelestigladii
      @caelestigladii ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@hamster_designsMaster lock?

  • @nath_rages
    @nath_rages ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The cameo by LockPickingLawyer got a good chuckle out of me - well played, editor!

  • @jaredburks2156
    @jaredburks2156 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's been awhile since I watched this series, you've really upped the production value. Looks really nice.

  • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
    @AntiDoctor-cx2jd ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If you get ahead like that in the late game, just build like 50 lings in a very short period of time, and send them in. They kill buildings in 2 seconds.

    • @Kholdaimon
      @Kholdaimon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, Zerglings are incredibly strong because they can take a lead and capitalize on it faster then any other unit in the game... They build fast, move fast and kill buildings in no time at all once you get upgrades and adrenal glands...

    • @Name-ru1kt
      @Name-ru1kt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See the only issue with that is. blue flame hellbats ONE SHOT
      4 hellbats at a mineral line can hold off an infinate number of zerglings.

    • @Kholdaimon
      @Kholdaimon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Name-ru1kt But zerglings build faster and can get there faster...

    • @greenlitlleman
      @greenlitlleman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kholdaimon Fully upgraded zerglings are almost as good as marines. Their attack speed upgrade is crazy good.

  • @douglasbessette6045
    @douglasbessette6045 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 17:27 Harstem is paraphrasing strategies from the Art of War. So true.. so true..

  • @zaksmith1035
    @zaksmith1035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful Lockpicking Lawyer reference. Great job editor!!

  • @user-yk8sb5do3l
    @user-yk8sb5do3l ปีที่แล้ว

    been watching alot of videos lately, keep up the good work!

  • @TheOldWhovian
    @TheOldWhovian ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As the person that stays until the end of the party; the host is always grateful that I help them clean up

  • @chipharris9167
    @chipharris9167 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ludo had won the game on 3 separate occasions! It was so hard to watch him throw the game by not building unit and by building the wrong units. Perfect commentary as always!

  • @roostrr42
    @roostrr42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just when i thought these couldn't get any more entertaining... you're a madman o7

  • @SubTactHiphop
    @SubTactHiphop ปีที่แล้ว

    MAN, that editing from hamster is super human, its celestial even. Hamster, you are GOATED!!!!!!

  • @Toxicflu
    @Toxicflu ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep it up the great production value. Now this is content worth sharing!

  • @tlst9999
    @tlst9999 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:50 It's always gonna be good when Harstem sees the opponent and says: I know this guy.

  • @londonrhodes2429
    @londonrhodes2429 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the little popups during your commentary.

  • @estebancantero4751
    @estebancantero4751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    33:25 I died in that part! Such a funny video!

  • @Helikaeon
    @Helikaeon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never thought id get so much pleasure from hearing someone not from the UK say the line "pi$$ off"...but you nailed it Harstem. Defo need to hear you say that more 🤣

  • @shellypooper
    @shellypooper ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved the editors notes

  • @kunothomas5335
    @kunothomas5335 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hamster on point with the add-on's refuting all of Hartems claims LOL

    • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
      @AntiDoctor-cx2jd ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It goes to show you how terrible it works out to rely on memory/gut feelings to make conclusions.

    • @genesises
      @genesises ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@AntiDoctor-cx2jd everyone relies on memory/gut instinct more than 99% of the time for their conclusions. imagine constantly double checking everything all the time.

    • @kunothomas5335
      @kunothomas5335 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AntiDoctor-cx2jd NO i love Harstems gut conclusions its great content and having Hamster interact with it is pure gold.

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@genesises what sets a fraud apart from a true intellectual is when they get told they made such a mistake their gut reaction is "well I guess I must have been wrong".

    • @mwperk02
      @mwperk02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@genesises Really everyone? Guess all science is based on gut instinct when coming to conclusions. same with Philosophy and general discussions or debates then?

  • @Draemn
    @Draemn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The trade info window that comes up after fights, it would be nice if there was an additional up/down arrow to point to the side it favours. I find that's a better visual indication for me. Even though you have negative & red to show a loss, my brain just had a hard time parsing that information quickly without pausing the video.

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob ปีที่แล้ว

      Was tempted to suggest a vertical "progress-bar"-style (similar to the horizontal ones in the units lost/workers lost panel) to be placed to the left or right of that window, but then again, it's tricky to have it represent "less losses" as a win. :-s

  • @arkadiusztemplar
    @arkadiusztemplar ปีที่แล้ว

    @hamster, always at the end of episode I am missing something. Now I know. Sad violin. For me it is sad and melancholic that apart of all the efforts it appears that StarCraft is balances, and that would be emphasized with sad melancholic violin.
    Thanks for a good work!

  • @zamvalis_official
    @zamvalis_official ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Editor live-roasting Captain Harstem in the cut lol

  • @Lanzetsu
    @Lanzetsu ปีที่แล้ว +7

    From 27:40 to 28:20 cracked me so badly I couldn't stop laughing hahahah

    • @ShustOne
      @ShustOne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hahaha same, maybe the funniest Harstem moment

  • @kaiser2261
    @kaiser2261 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Match specific MMR would reduce smurfing by like 50% on the ladder. Half the time when I’m playing a smurf its someone who hates playing their mirror matchup and instantly leaves those games, but then has an 80%+ win rate in the matchups they like. Match specific MMR would completely fix that. Great idea.

  • @philipdillon83
    @philipdillon83 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Btw, your editor is top no5ch with extra info, and funny as hell.

  • @HamletNOR
    @HamletNOR ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You lovely man Kevin! I love your videos. Have a great weekend!

  • @ogrebreed
    @ogrebreed ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the intern lost the key to the server room🤣🤣

  • @yorick9435
    @yorick9435 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    03:48 Protoss wishes they could make overlords

  • @daydreamers8254
    @daydreamers8254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:02 idk, in highschool, our parties lasted all night into the morning.
    couple of the students parents were mega wealthy and had huge real estates and they would lock both entrance / exit gates if you were gonna be drinking and staying
    even baked us pot brownies and huge meals. good times... good times..
    so needless to say i was done partying after highschool and a few college parties that i went to weren't nearly as good or interesting..
    jocks were dialed up to 1000 and really annoying. the stoner crowd practically didn't exist, it turned into like the ritalin or adderal people who seemed zonked out of their minds
    and since me and my boy nick never lost beer post we had to be kicked off the table even though house rules were "play til you lose."
    so yeah i was done with parties after that

  • @DevilWearsAdidas
    @DevilWearsAdidas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    18:50 It's like wearing your shoes but forgetting you have no pants on.

    • @DevilWearsAdidas
      @DevilWearsAdidas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      22:05 you're confused because it is a terrible counterattack. It is, but because Ludo likes to make sure he doesn't leave any of his units alive for more than 5 minutes, he has no units to defend with.

  • @sjoerdglaser2794
    @sjoerdglaser2794 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:16, that face. This is already a classic!

  • @bobby4tw
    @bobby4tw ปีที่แล้ว

    You grow on me @Harstem
    I really hated your click bait titles but this was genuinely funny. Thanks for the content.

  • @earthbind83
    @earthbind83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a great episode, both the casting and the game itself.

  • @tadoriaselan3268
    @tadoriaselan3268 ปีที่แล้ว

    "It's not going to be blizzard because the intern lost the key to the server room" had me rolling

  • @jorgelenny47
    @jorgelenny47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like this was a much better game than what we usually see, in terms of fights being mostly close and not just losing off of one bad engagement

  • @charleysimmons427
    @charleysimmons427 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ludo got fed those workers he didn't even have to break the wall. bro just said here you go that was a horrible move by fear.

  • @HamletNOR
    @HamletNOR ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Well done Hamster! The new layout looks great, and your work is stellar as always!

    • @hamster_designs
      @hamster_designs ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, glad you guys enjoy it ^^

    • @brianjc720
      @brianjc720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hamster_designs Bro your editing is actually top tier. Genuinely elevates the experience well done mate.

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hamster_designs Just one thing, noticed by the keen eye of Atruval in another comment thread in here: at 3:47 would've been interesting to see a focus screen on that 'toss Overlord. ;-)
      But overall, i really enjoyed all them nice touches you added throughout. 👍

  • @qwqwq2010
    @qwqwq2010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    27:30 is golden

  • @zaproid
    @zaproid ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I was so hoping to see a split screen for the queen that gets blasted by a lone mine at 23:00

  • @skipperg4436
    @skipperg4436 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually can use an advice of how to beat Mech Terran as Bio Terran...

    • @greenlitlleman
      @greenlitlleman ปีที่แล้ว

      You just need to have 500 apm and deny all of their bases past the natural. Easy.

  • @BestPrezz
    @BestPrezz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    28:25 blood for the blood god

  • @tranquilitydove1155
    @tranquilitydove1155 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Matchup based MMR would be interesting

  • @sykedem_yt6254
    @sykedem_yt6254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how did that bile not damage the tank at 5:16 though????

  • @MedicJR
    @MedicJR ปีที่แล้ว

    Clearly the best thumbnail I've ever seen in a while

  • @JR-White
    @JR-White ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was expecting hamster to provide a breakdown for the 25:00 fight and it seems to have taken so long that I'm not sure when the counter started. Maybe there should be a "loading indicator" for the period over which the stats will be recorded?

  • @mwperk02
    @mwperk02 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I must ask has anyone who submitted for this series gotten an IMBA verdict.

    • @AAkCN1
      @AAkCN1 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, Lowko

  • @illiakuznietsov4162
    @illiakuznietsov4162 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:15 Well, to be fair in some cases it IS a counter, since it gives less time for a fist to speed up

  • @tsjbb
    @tsjbb 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't watched Starcraft 2 in over 10 years, love to see that Zergs still think that the winner of games should be decided on who has the higher APM.

  • @amhm8664
    @amhm8664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice one!

  • @fernandobarreiro6152
    @fernandobarreiro6152 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jesus, I've been binge watching this shit so much that I sometimes when I talk to my wife start with "Dear Harstem..." 😅

    • @Kaefer1973
      @Kaefer1973 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As long as you don't shout it during the act it's fine.

    • @fernandobarreiro6152
      @fernandobarreiro6152 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kaefer1973 lol! Now that you have said it I'm almost, totally, 100% doomed! 😂

    • @jpVari
      @jpVari ปีที่แล้ว

      Best vids on TH-cam for healing the bruised ego of the competitive mind. Putting everything back where it belongs. It's like meditating before a tournament.

  • @kostadinpantev
    @kostadinpantev 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @33:00 But Microsoft has been very kind to Age of Empires 2 in the last couple of years.

  • @danielgrafl8524
    @danielgrafl8524 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    jeyy, a new Iodis. Just on time

  • @broli92
    @broli92 ปีที่แล้ว

    This needs to be a series

  • @danieldefontes2810
    @danieldefontes2810 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Harstem, you kept saying he wasnt spending his money, but he had no gas! Cant make ling and roach against thor tank hellbat

  • @memph1ston
    @memph1ston ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The zerg is actually good, he just stayed for too long on the same army composition and fought terrible fights while not spending his money "correctly". Producing more broodlords, a zergling runby, or teching into ultralisks would have won him the game multiple times.

    • @5000Seabass
      @5000Seabass ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good? But bad?
      Boy what?

    • @marcoCampanella
      @marcoCampanella ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a Mechanical Terran player, I agree with your analysis! He should have droned up faster, disengage faster from fights, taken the forward bases, and the terran would have been economically broken.

    • @mrskwid1
      @mrskwid1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "he's good... except for being bad"

    • @ToTheNines87368
      @ToTheNines87368 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcoCampanella so, pretty much what Harstem said 😄

  • @zaviaaaaa
    @zaviaaaaa ปีที่แล้ว

    Coming to this video right after a Florencio file felt like nothing changed watching Fear

  • @Ketroc
    @Ketroc ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like the turtle mech player has the easier report to write for this show. "When I open turtle mech, all zerg has to do is hold down D and I will lose." Harstem would simply advise "don't open turtle mech".

  • @coodude25
    @coodude25 ปีที่แล้ว

    The production value is seriously impressive.

  • @AAkCN1
    @AAkCN1 ปีที่แล้ว

    32:28 the SC2 reference hurt :(

  • @aziraphael0690
    @aziraphael0690 ปีที่แล้ว

    it reads 'build order protess' at about 3:55 when the zerg build order is shown

  • @CasualCosta
    @CasualCosta ปีที่แล้ว

    That fourth base was very creative, actually!

  • @josh6386
    @josh6386 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The intern lost the key to the server room made my day

  • @DrKaku01
    @DrKaku01 ปีที่แล้ว

    gotta say,i dont even play this game, i used to play scbw but u have a quiet nice voice 💪

  • @jordanuecker7744
    @jordanuecker7744 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be totally fair. And as someone who plays Terran and Zerg. I can hands down say my Zerg is cleaner than my Terran by MILES. And my Mmr is the same(ish) for both races. But I know with Terran if I play even moderately good (just doing what I’m supposed to) I have a good chance of winning. On Zerg you can do EVERYTHING perfect for 20 min and lose to a 3 base Terran because he turtles with an impenetrable base of walls and turrets. makes an army you literally can’t kill without 600 apm and 4x the mental effort. You are left with 2 options. Throw units and hope they have open spots in the defense. OR you sit back and force yourself to let the Terran get to endgame (Zerg players know this is a trap).
    I think my point is. The zerg can be in the position that ANY other race would consider a won game and still get toasted. Generally by a bad widow mine or ONE bad fight out of 10

    • @eestlane24h
      @eestlane24h ปีที่แล้ว

      terran 20 minutes 3 base is basically mined out and if you stop letting him to take 4rd everytime by using changelings to scout 24.7 it shouldnt even be an issue unless u are below diamond or dia2. Problem is you because you don't make correct units. VS mech you need vipers, there is no way around it unless you do perfect engagements and deny 4th and 5th nonstop whlile trading agressive and good way.

  • @calebadam2576
    @calebadam2576 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Calling it now before the complaint form is finished: he probably ran his army into tanks repeatedly.

  • @artemirrlazaris7406
    @artemirrlazaris7406 ปีที่แล้ว

    ON this map, zerg can do some interesting things. early nydus and take the gold block on their side.. and mine right away, put a nydus down in that area. SO if you are caught you can trasnfer your drones... to naother hatchery that is ready... called cheap devious mining, where you tend to only lose like 400/100, save teh drones and can be immedaitely mining another enemy resource location. lol

  • @TheXeioken
    @TheXeioken ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love this series

  • @BooperSchmooper
    @BooperSchmooper ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the picture of the sloth at the start.

  • @spagettech
    @spagettech ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hampster outdid himself with the editing on this one.

  • @bodybrest2644
    @bodybrest2644 ปีที่แล้ว

    The editor is excellent.
    Algo boost

  • @pDrake01
    @pDrake01 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lurkers would've made a lot of difference for this game. If you play against slow mech go for lots of lurkers, few corruptors and 4-6 vipers for the pull and parasitic bombs.

  • @marcoCampanella
    @marcoCampanella ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a terran mech player myself, I enjoyed this episode beyond human imagination. And don't tell anyone, but mech below Diamond is a bit imba... 😊

    • @isoufo
      @isoufo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm low diamond and struggle with mech :)

    • @Sizt
      @Sizt ปีที่แล้ว

      Swarm hosts are pretty effective against mech. The only thing they are effective against.
      Swarm hosts could kill Planetary in a couple of seconds without any losses and they could force terran to attack in a bad position in order to stop losing units for free.

    • @marcoCampanella
      @marcoCampanella ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sizt i believe that also hydra viper lurker is good against mech

    • @colinlee2904
      @colinlee2904 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@marcoCampanella is it as good as lowkos hydra corruptor tho

    • @user-vh4oo9nm8k
      @user-vh4oo9nm8k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@colinlee2904dont forget the lurkers

  • @santeenl
    @santeenl ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean it's well known that especially Toss get 500 free MMR due to playing toss, Terran 250 and Zerg will only be good if you're really good.

  • @nosemeocurrenada93
    @nosemeocurrenada93 ปีที่แล้ว

    > One specific thing they're good at
    Lol my zvz winrate is so much higher than other matchups. I just love chaos

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Why won't I win with more bases and resources?"
    I don't know, maybe because unspent resources are about as useful as ones you never got.

  • @ddenozor
    @ddenozor ปีที่แล้ว

    All this time Fear was long distance mining the minerals in the middle with an army of SCVs and mules, while Ludo was move commanding his army into planetary to the right side.

  • @sfukuda512
    @sfukuda512 ปีที่แล้ว

    Against mech, I'm always tempted to do mass spore push with lurkers. You either go immobile yourself, or just do ling run-bys. The point about taking your opponent's base is key. In a drawn out game, you need to tax your opponent's economy.
    Also, viper control. Heard of it.

    • @user-vh4oo9nm8k
      @user-vh4oo9nm8k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      When i play vipers i like to f2 a click behind there army and then watch in utter panic as they drive off into the distance to die for free.

  • @repit5014
    @repit5014 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to be that terran that crushed most Z with a really good BC Hellbat all in, but TvT and TvP held my MMR down a lot. Nice video captain.

    • @melhute.4715
      @melhute.4715 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That´s because Mech vs Zerg is imbalanced.

  • @AudreyandmeAu
    @AudreyandmeAu ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't watched yet... but tend to agree with teh complaint form in general

  • @idreesnagassar7895
    @idreesnagassar7895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you can feel that editor was on pay day

  • @LounoirRecords
    @LounoirRecords ปีที่แล้ว +2

    apm barely means anything if your decisions and timings ingame are questionable to say it mildly
    effective apm means a little more (deducting all the spam clicking and a-moving all over the place), but still not that much

  • @moomoo733
    @moomoo733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Harstem. I never thought I would comment on one of your video.
    Message can be a bit long, but I just wanted to share some sincere thoughts that, after seeing this, may prove useful or even feel good ?
    So yeah. I've always been a bit afraid of you way of commenting. Maybe it's hard to understand, but what you display can often be a bit scary as to what I can expect from you. In terms of violent off-comments, toxicity, etc.
    After seeing this, I feel like you do care for the people both playing and watching.
    And, I didn't expect this, and I'm inclined to have more trust in your videos, and indirectly, you.
    So yeah, well done.
    The clickbait titles (IIIODIS is a bit, and the kind of slight passive-agressive first part play a role) are a bit off-putting.
    But I also understand, that's your job, you know your community pretty well, and even if I don't totally agree, I don't really blame here.
    I still haven't seen enough videos of you to consolidate a solid opinion (it takes time, as every trust and bias of parasocial relationships).
    But after seeing this, I'm ready to try more (and I already tried here because I think in case of doubt, sometimes checking out is a good thing to do).
    So yeah, great video and commenting.
    I don't have very high hopes, not because of you specifically, but because very different social groups and lots of societal things (no details because idk how your community might react to anything I could say here and I don't want to take any risk, not because of them only, but because of past awful and violent interactions).
    But I'm curious and have enough to keep watching a bit more of your videos.
    I hope, apart from the titles (that I still understand and don't condone), I'll be proven wrong, at least wrong enough to discover I like watching a big part of your videos, and with that, what you think and just enjoying seeing you express yourself at least in that context.
    I don't often comment at all on videos, especially with such long comments, but that video was very very good, and I loved it.
    Thanks for this good moment I had watching it and you in it, and at least for now, I hope you'll have good times doing this work !

  • @megadeth-1a885
    @megadeth-1a885 ปีที่แล้ว

    weird seeing someone tap out with 1200 minerals and plenty of larva