A part of my comment disappeared so i will insist on something very important that maybe some people don't know : The story of A'isha by itself is not important, she's not alive to say anything and quite frankly she had a lot of power all of her life and a full story after her 18th birthday. The problem is that 2 surahs of the Quran + A'isha story's serve some Ulemma to say : Marrying a child is hallal, it's in the book of Allah in the surah talking about divorce when it mention that there is a delay for remarrying a girl which didn't have her periods yet, and there's also a verse talking about how virgin girls DON'T have a delay for marriage. + The sunnah of the prophet with A'ishah as exemple I will give a name that you can all check by yourself : the Cheikh Salih Al-Fawzan young girls no more than 10 are married TODAY because of it.
That's not the ages given through the Sahih of Bukhari It is said that A'isha got married at 6 or 7, isolated herself with her husband at 9 And she was 18 when her husband died From what i know imam shaafi talked about that because during his life, he met a young girl which became grandma at 21
if our mother Aisha was 9 when the marriage consummated (which was in madinah). How is it that she was allowed on the battlefield during Uhud whereas Abdullah bin Umar was turned away because he wasn't 15? Uhud was in 3AH which would put her age at 11 years old.
Except this logic doesn't work with sunni islam,.for which muhammad is an exemple in all aspects from his time to the end of times Being against this type of marriage is seen as a sign of kufr by some ulemmas The argument of "presentism" can't be given if you're sunni muslim, because your argument is : "He did it during his time, but we can't act like this today, and those verses are not in phase with today" It's all kufr You're putting man-made laws above the laws of Allah and the exemple given by his Prophet. That's not a universal view but it's still a view defended AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL People defending that aren't your usual imam/cheikh, there's ulemmas, they have the power to qualify someone as kafir and put him in a state of apostasy, so in their country's they can sentence you to a chirurgical operation with a saber and your neck if you don't change your mind about their opinion in exactly 3 days that they give to you to take back your word
@Black_X_Blade it's not a fallacy on this precise topic since it's a story which pretend to be good yesterday until the end of times The whole argument of presentism is null It only works if we agree that things changed and we shouldn't do that today
Age 6. Consumated age 9. Today Afghanistan age 9 .. no windows . Wow
A part of my comment disappeared so i will insist on something very important that maybe some people don't know :
The story of A'isha by itself is not important, she's not alive to say anything and quite frankly she had a lot of power all of her life and a full story after her 18th birthday.
The problem is that 2 surahs of the Quran + A'isha story's serve some Ulemma to say :
Marrying a child is hallal, it's in the book of Allah in the surah talking about divorce when it mention that there is a delay for remarrying a girl which didn't have her periods yet, and there's also a verse talking about how virgin girls DON'T have a delay for marriage.
+ The sunnah of the prophet with A'ishah as exemple
I will give a name that you can all check by yourself :
the Cheikh Salih Al-Fawzan
young girls no more than 10 are married TODAY because of it.
He didn't choose, he was commanded to do so by an angel - read Sahih al-Bukhari 7012
She was 9 when consumation, marriage contract at 6. Please fix title.
That's not the ages given through the Sahih of Bukhari
It is said that A'isha got married at 6 or 7, isolated herself with her husband at 9
And she was 18 when her husband died
From what i know imam shaafi talked about that because during his life, he met a young girl which became grandma at 21
if our mother Aisha was 9 when the marriage consummated (which was in madinah). How is it that she was allowed on the battlefield during Uhud whereas Abdullah bin Umar was turned away because he wasn't 15? Uhud was in 3AH which would put her age at 11 years old.
It's called presentism.
Except this logic doesn't work with sunni islam,.for which muhammad is an exemple in all aspects from his time to the end of times
Being against this type of marriage is seen as a sign of kufr by some ulemmas
The argument of "presentism" can't be given if you're sunni muslim, because your argument is :
"He did it during his time, but we can't act like this today, and those verses are not in phase with today"
It's all kufr
You're putting man-made laws above the laws of Allah and the exemple given by his Prophet.
That's not a universal view but it's still a view defended AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL
People defending that aren't your usual imam/cheikh, there's ulemmas, they have the power to qualify someone as kafir and put him in a state of apostasy, so in their country's they can sentence you to a chirurgical operation with a saber and your neck if you don't change your mind about their opinion in exactly 3 days that they give to you to take back your word
and this is a fallacy.
@Black_X_Blade it's not a fallacy on this precise topic since it's a story which pretend to be good yesterday until the end of times
The whole argument of presentism is null
It only works if we agree that things changed and we shouldn't do that today
dont talk about issue that you do not know..totally wrong information.
You can't do this in the west