Ranking Every Sonic Gimmick!

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  • Sonic and gimmicks go together very well.
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  • @Night-gw3oe
    @Night-gw3oe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    The issue I have with the guns in Shadow is that Shadow is a character with some crazy chaos powers, and instead of expanding on that and making a cool moveset that is exclusive to him, he gets guns that anyone could use. I think Fang is an example of a Sonic character with a gun done right, Fang doesn’t have any crazy powers that we know of, so it makes sense that he would use a weapon. Whisper with the variable wispon is also another one that I like.

    • @UltraSTH
      @UltraSTH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You also bring up the fact that anyone else can use the guns. Look at Sonic in Smash. Similar abilities to Shadow, and he also uses (more cartoony) guns

    • @Hugo-yz1vb
      @Hugo-yz1vb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hear me out, chaos power-based guns and weapons aside from normal weapons and chaos power, and boom! The ultimate moveset form!

    • @drskiller7887
      @drskiller7887 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And kids wanted a sonic charcacter to have a gun

    • @SquallyCoin5664
      @SquallyCoin5664 ปีที่แล้ว

      The fact that it’s a realistic gun that’s the main issue.

    • @Night-gw3oe
      @Night-gw3oe ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I guess my preferred interpretation of Shadow is someone who uses various chaos energy related moves rather than a gun. I feel like Tails or Rouge would make more sense for like a gun in the modern cast. Preferably a more cartoony gun.

  • @KingKristian456
    @KingKristian456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    Ah yes gimmicks. A sonic fans favourite thing.

  • @Khyon521
    @Khyon521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    Seeing the Werehog being given some love is awesome to me

    • @EAA_00
      @EAA_00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

    • @Blorb12
      @Blorb12 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EAA_00 same same

    • @J_TheAntiSosh
      @J_TheAntiSosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr? It’s amazing!

    • @ChikaJihyo
      @ChikaJihyo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ikr!!!

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Werehog in concept is extremely weird, in execution, it's fine

  • @Xelical
    @Xelical 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I love the werehog. People just immediately think something is bad just cus it's different. Sure, it's not what we're used to in a Sonic game, but it works so well and shouldn't be called bad, it just might not be your thing.

    • @Master_Viccc
      @Master_Viccc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yeah they instantly hated him cause people had to relearn Sonic again and didn't want to learn a combat system since they're used to him being fast and also they hate that the levels are to long but if you mastered the werehog by now levels can take 3-6 minutes which isn't bad

    • @folo7595
      @folo7595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Master_Viccc fr bruh people used to dislike it blindly back in the days and funny thing is that most of people who dislike it didn't even play the game in the first place lol, but yeah anyways im happy that now its appriciated and getting the love it deserve, plus the Lvl's weren't even long most of them could be finished in like 3/5 mins (mostly if you a decent player that learned to get used to it, and know how to play intelligently)

    • @Master_Viccc
      @Master_Viccc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@folo7595 yeah people just didn't want to learn the night stages at all and that one IGN employee man God that man was so horrible even as daytime Sonic

    • @best_mate456
      @best_mate456 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Classic sonic is different to modern sonic and I have no problem with his gameplay
      The werehog though is have mega repetitive combat and the puzzles can also be bit frustrating, although the bosses and the platforming did got executed well, his stretchy arms really carried the stages IMO and the bosses especially dark gia phoenix was super fun.

  • @thatclipmakerguy9959
    @thatclipmakerguy9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Seeing the werehog so high up gives me life!

    • @BitchChill
      @BitchChill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does the opposite for me

    • @SuperBetaBuxbros.
      @SuperBetaBuxbros. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He sucks lmao

    • @nedalomar4216
      @nedalomar4216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@SuperBetaBuxbros. that is your opinion

    • @Khyon521
      @Khyon521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fr me too

    • @nedalomar4216
      @nedalomar4216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The werehog is underrated

  • @sonopedia7423
    @sonopedia7423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The sword was brilliant. Can't tell me otherwise

    • @Terminal_Apotos
      @Terminal_Apotos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It just felt so natural

    • @BitchChill
      @BitchChill 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In concept

    • @alternatenican
      @alternatenican 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it actually felt like you're holding a sword, how past cool is that?

    • @kamsienyioha4574
      @kamsienyioha4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sonic doesn’t need it though. He can already attack with his spikes.

    • @destroyerofworlds4663
      @destroyerofworlds4663 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      otherwise

  • @dad5draco
    @dad5draco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Dude was so hung up on Shadow having a gun...

    • @lemonyanva1976
      @lemonyanva1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Shadow having a gun makes sense in the context that he witnessed Maria die to one and wants revenge but at the same time the way it was executed was bad....the way he was brought back was bad

    • @antg2183
      @antg2183 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lemonyanva1976 naw I think the way he was brought back story wise makes sense (with some adjustments) and I mean it could be the perfect way to start a Shadow the Hedgehog game. Eggman rescues Shadow and immediately put him in stasis while studying him to make an Ultimate Android Army capable of going toe to toe with Sonic. Rouge goes there on behalf of the President/G.U.N (since originally it was the President she worked for and not G.U.N) sends her in with intel on this project and basically tells her to sabotage everything. She accidentally awakens Omega (who senses a living being is awake and assumes she’s Shadow) who immediately goes batshit insane which leads to either Omega or Rouge awakening Shadow. Shadow tries to fight him off but Rouge interrupts the fight where basically the same thing as Sonic Heroes happen except you scrap the amnesia and Shadows just pissed cause Eggman experimented on him and created copies of him while Omega’s pissed cause he’s the strongest of the E-Series but basically got locked away in a room to rot. Rouge enlists their help and boom you have a decent start to a Shadow the Hedgehog game that I think could’ve worked

  • @undeadbatman9762
    @undeadbatman9762 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    "Sonic and gimmicks go together very well"
    Well *sometimes*

  • @Khyon521
    @Khyon521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Now I kinda want a wisp tier list. Specifically with Yellow Drill in S or High A, and Magenta Rhythm in F

    • @Matthasnocuts
      @Matthasnocuts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Cube is definitely the best.

    • @Onaterdem
      @Onaterdem 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Matthasnocuts F R E N Z Y
      Controls atrociously but come on, he's so cool.

    • @franktheluigifan5523
      @franktheluigifan5523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Seriously, who thought that Magenta Rhythm was a good idea for a wisp?

    • @franktheluigifan5523
      @franktheluigifan5523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Matthasnocuts Cube gets too much hate. It's not the best, but it's still a great wisp.

    • @chai_burns
      @chai_burns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If magenta wisp is in F tier, gray wisp is in Z tier. Stupid 3ds tilt controls and slow movement made me lose my mind!

  • @El_Mince
    @El_Mince 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    In D tier, we have classic sonic
    From sonic forces

  • @Hutch2Much
    @Hutch2Much 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    2:07 i mean. Eggman points a gun at Amy’s head in SA2, and i love that scene

  • @Cyberliminal
    @Cyberliminal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Shadow with a gun is S tier

    • @edwardrobinson5470
      @edwardrobinson5470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. That's the thing I like about the game.

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's so damn stupid that it's S-tier

  • @demaunix2723
    @demaunix2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mat: LIKE WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO GIVE A SONIC CHARACTER A GUN?!
    Fang the Sniper: *nervous sweat*

    • @lynxfresh5214
      @lynxfresh5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yup it's those kind of statements where it feels like cherry-picking imo (guns = bad yet swords = good) kinda feels like double standards tbh.

    • @jdawson7877
      @jdawson7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      oh so its okay for fang to use guns but when shadow do it its suddenly a bad thing

    • @antg2183
      @antg2183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jdawson7877 ehhh tbf only reason I think it’s a bad thing is because Shadow literally doesn’t need it, not only can Shadow travel faster than most if not all bullets out there (meaning he could run behind you and kill you no problems whatsoever before the bullet even leaves the chamber) but he already has a long distance attack. Just use the Chaos Spears and what’s even better with the Spears is that as long as Shadow has energy he can fire them off. That’s basically a infinite supply of Chaos Spears vs a finite supply of bullets. Not only that but Chaos Blast works better than any Bomb could (ill give Rockets and Grenade Launchers a leeway pass just because running in the middle of enemies just to basically blow stuff up ain’t smart but even then again Shadow is massively faster than everyone else not named Sonic, he should be able to do that with no problems lorewise but gameplay wise if you’re not trying to get hit it could be annoying)

    • @jdawson7877
      @jdawson7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antg2183 well just because shadow doesn't need guns doesn't mean he can't use them the same with sonic and a sword sonic and shadow don't need guns or swords but that doesn't mean they can't use them

    • @demaunix2723
      @demaunix2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antg2183 I always seen characters using weapons or anything lesser than them is just for the aesthetic or just a way to make them more interesting. Like Sonic is faster than his own car, but he hops into one maybe cause it's comfy for him or maybe Sonic without a car in a vehicle game is *weird*
      Sonic with a sword is hella badass, he doesn't NEED it but just the idea of him holding a sword and doing that super fast homing attack is just mind-blowing. Same thing with Shadow, badass-looking character wielding a usually badass weapon is pretty cool, even if he can probably see the bullets flying towards his enemy in slow motion. And hey, just another ranged weapon other than his chaos abilities.

  • @lynxfresh5214
    @lynxfresh5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Who thought it was a good idea to give a Sonic character a gun?"
    Seriously where does this cognitive disillusion come from? We literally have Nack/Fang, Omega as well as Gamma used guns not to mention Tails using arm cannons, Eggman used guns a few times, the wispons and oh THERE'S LITERALLY AN ORGANIZATION CALLED "G.U.N"
    I dunno are we playing the same franchise? lol!

    • @kamsienyioha4574
      @kamsienyioha4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It still doesn’t make sense. Atleast the guns they own fit the aesthetic or were not used as a marketing point. Shadow’s guns are just bland realistic guns.

    • @josepha4161
      @josepha4161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guns probably make more sense than swords for this franchise if you think about it tbh. Not that I disliked Black Knight or anything, just saying.
      Maybe swords fit the comics more, but I never read 'em so idk. 🤷‍♂️

  • @fridaypurples2441
    @fridaypurples2441 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm actually one of those who liked the Werehog. I love that you get to explore the levels a little more. Yeah the levels are a little long but I somehow got all the S ranks despite having a time of 8, 10 or more minutes in a level. Also those Dark Gaia minions are so fun to beat up lol
    I'm more of an explorer than a high speed player.

    • @PapiTheMenace
      @PapiTheMenace 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad I’m not the only one that enjoyed the werehog, there could’ve been less fights, but I’m ngl I really liked the platforming, it gave me jak and daxter vibes

  • @demaunix2723
    @demaunix2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I will smack the next person who calls the wisps, aliens
    Mat: *nervous sweta*

    • @michaelfryers1914
      @michaelfryers1914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lisps? I think I'll just with aliens if that's alright with you

    • @demaunix2723
      @demaunix2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelfryers1914 Wisps

    • @michaelfryers1914
      @michaelfryers1914 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demaunix2723 I know, I was making a reference to sonic colours because sonic just calls them aliens

    • @demaunix2723
      @demaunix2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelfryers1914 Wisps

  • @jdawson7877
    @jdawson7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    favorite gimmicks: team gimmick. guns, sword and werehog
    least favorite gimmicks: wisp and classic sonic

    • @lynxfresh5214
      @lynxfresh5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ditto!

    • @jackthebitingcyborg8689
      @jackthebitingcyborg8689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My least favorite gimmick is waiting 5 years for games

    • @cakelayer
      @cakelayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You like guns, the sword AND the werehog, those are my 3 least fave lmao, opinions are opinions tho, personally I like sonc 4s gimmick based acts and the colours and lost world wisps

    • @cakelayer
      @cakelayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hydrochloric007 true!

  • @Joshua-yc9cv
    @Joshua-yc9cv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love gimmicks in Sonic games.

  • @Callum-sp8wj
    @Callum-sp8wj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I feel cheated... In your thumbnail the Werehog is S tier, but in the actual video it's actually A tier... smh

  • @Blu_Moon_VA
    @Blu_Moon_VA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I've never played Shadow the Hedgehog, but I feel like a gun fits him very well.

  • @demaunix2723
    @demaunix2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    SEGA in a nutshell
    Ideas: Hyper Sonic
    Execution: Charmy

    • @cakelayer
      @cakelayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charmy is awesome, hyper sonic is sonic but rings are drained, should be the other way round

    • @demaunix2723
      @demaunix2723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cakelayer Bad ideas and good execution?

    • @cakelayer
      @cakelayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@demaunix2723 no, sometimes they badly execute stuff (classic in forces) and sometimes good (Sonic 4s gimmick based acts)

  • @b0xE_
    @b0xE_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Parkour should be a staple in the series!

  • @brandonfazbear4219
    @brandonfazbear4219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I really appreciate that you give praise to Unleashed and the Werehog and I'm always agreeing with so many opinions you have with it. If only the Hedgehog Engine made a comeback and was improved on. But then again, nothing will have as beautiful of visuals as Sonic Unleashed did. It really was an adventure.

  • @yuprocraft2273
    @yuprocraft2273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For me the Werehog should be S tier, just because it shows how platforming can be really fun if done like that

  • @spritvio639
    @spritvio639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My favorites are the Wisps and Mechs from SA2 and Colors.

  • @TDRR_Gamez
    @TDRR_Gamez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    >Colors' wisps on the S tier
    Finally, someone who gets it :^)
    All I would change about them is making the transformation/activation instant, and making hover less painfully slow. But they're one of the few gimmicks I never had a big problem with, they were really well done.

    • @franktheluigifan5523
      @franktheluigifan5523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Strange because the DS version of Colors and the 3DS version of Lost World did the instant transformation thing. To this day I still don't get why they didn't do it for the console versions but, it's no big deal.

  • @nedalomar4216
    @nedalomar4216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    S teir : werehog the team gameplay from heroes
    A teir : the parkour the avatar generations classic sonic
    B tier : the sword
    C teir : wisps
    D teir : guns forces classic sonic
    It's my opinion

    • @lemonate6163
      @lemonate6163 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      but arent forces classic and gens classic basically the same thing?

    • @nedalomar4216
      @nedalomar4216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lemonate6163 forces classic sonic plays nothing like gens classic sonic

    • @lemonate6163
      @lemonate6163 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nedalomar4216 that makes no sense if there both classic sonic WHY WOULD they play different huh?

    • @nedalomar4216
      @nedalomar4216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lemonate6163 what I'm saying forces classic sonic doesn't have the same control as gens classic sonic

  • @KhaosKontroller
    @KhaosKontroller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The OC is an S tier idea, but in execution it's a fucking F tier.
    After so many years of people making Sonic OCs, I couldn't have imagined an official Sonic OC creator being this bland. The customization is nice, but the creation is incredibly barebones.

    • @lynxfresh5214
      @lynxfresh5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently Sega intentionally made the character creator basic so your OC wouldn't look as "cool" as Sonic and Co.
      Ofc even with Sega trying to strangle the fandom's creativity there have been a few gems among the OCs (one of which partly inspired the creation of Whisper the Wolf for IDW).

    • @KhaosKontroller
      @KhaosKontroller 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lynxfresh5214 Yeah that's what I heard. So freakin dumb. You always end up looking like a background character.

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The joke is that it is so bland that I actually named my mainavatar... "Avatar the Cat". It is actually better as a feature when one sees the character as a rando in the sonicworld instead of an actual OC made by a fan. That is how backwards it feels.

  • @michaelfryers1914
    @michaelfryers1914 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I actually really loved the werehog, I don't understand why it was so hated

  • @alternatenican
    @alternatenican 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Rookie is honestly one of the best parts of Sonic Forces. And the Wisps are underrated in Sonic Colors at least. I agree with everything on the list except for the Team Mechanic in Heroes, i'd put it in an A, i can't say it's worse than a Forces gimmick even tho i liked the game. (jk rookie still better) And werehog is in B, it's a decent gimmick but a lot of the werehog stages are bad so that's why it's in the B tier for me.

    • @jdawson7877
      @jdawson7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the problem with wisp is that they keep showing up in later games for no reason

    • @alternatenican
      @alternatenican 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jdawson7877 i'm talking about the Wisps in Sonic Colors, not the later games.

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      !naf cinoS

    • @jdawson7877
      @jdawson7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alternatenican Yes i know that but thats not what im talking about just like classic sonic the wisp should've just been a one time thing

    • @alternatenican
      @alternatenican 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hydrochloric007 dicA cirolhcordyH

  • @shonenbois
    @shonenbois 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Werehog is a lot better than some of the Wisps in my opinion and seeing it get some love in this video makes me happy

  • @Zippy-dp4mp
    @Zippy-dp4mp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Werehog and Wisps: Put in the A and S tiers
    Me: What you did has made God very happy!

  • @drifter-donosadventureobsc9565
    @drifter-donosadventureobsc9565 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "The aliens compliment *Mario*'s gameplay so well"
    Also no, you cannot ignore them. Chaomix proved that completion is impossible with any less than 10 uses.

  • @SilverSpireZ
    @SilverSpireZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To be fair, though the idea was beyond stupid, the guns in Shadow actually worked pretty damn well. They were fun to use (most of the time) and helped the combat to not drag like in 06 or Heroes. It’s the only time where enemies with health bars actually worked (outside of the Werehog).
    My ranking
    -1000. Classic Sonic (Forces) (Need I say more? No redeeming qualities)
    7. Sword (Black Knight) (Interesting idea, but controls horribly and a pace breaker)
    6. Avatar (Forces) (Fun idea, but completely wasted, like everything in Forces)
    5. Guns (Shadow) (See above)
    4. Wisps (Colors) (Specifically talking Colors. Worked well here, but way, WAY overused and pointless in every other game. Kinda broke the pace sometimes)
    3. Parkour (Lost World) (Another wasted idea, but really fun when actually utilized. Would love to see this get another chance)
    2. Classic Sonic (Generations) (Fun and well designed, but I’d still rather play Modern. Classic Sky Sanctuary still one of my favorite Sonic levels ever.)
    1. Werehog (Unleashed) (Levels can drag, but I don’t mind. I am a Werehog apologist)
    Didn’t include Hero/Dark in SA2 because it has no impact on gameplay

  • @pikminarmy7538
    @pikminarmy7538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite has to be the wherehog. There something just so satisfying when you beat the crap out of an enemy with the corpse of another enemy. You could also tecnically classify the level up system in unleased as a gimmick as well.

  • @thetankengine3521
    @thetankengine3521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Honestly I don't have too much of a problem with Shadow having guns, I guess the idea is a little strange but it doesn't bother me much and when it comes to the gameplay, I think its pretty fun.

  • @infinitetyme7478
    @infinitetyme7478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I wouldn't mind some if the tricks being added to the Adventure gameplay. Like wallrunning or grabbing ledges."
    Dude... what

  • @ADiretoria100
    @ADiretoria100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guns at low tier = me pissed
    Wisps at high tier = me happy

  • @chai_burns
    @chai_burns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pleasantly surprised with the top gimmick, but you're absolutely right. Parkour belongs in a Sonic game. On a similar vein, I liked Amy's triple jump and tightrope abilities in *redacted*.

  • @evonshki
    @evonshki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love everything about lost world, especially the parkour. made my day, dude :)

  • @mekilla7886
    @mekilla7886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don’t understand why they added Classic Sonic to forces I mean if the point of him being there was for sales they should’ve tried to make Classic play well so people would get what they paid for lol

    • @jdawson7877
      @jdawson7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      because they no longer have faith in modern sonic there too scared to make a fully 3d sonic game and they now have this mindset that a sonic game can't be good without classic sonic

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But Sega doesn't want people to get what they paid for

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @J Dawson The sad thing is that at Sonic Forces' reveal, everyone was cheering about Classic Sonic... But nobody knew that it would be terrible...

    • @GetShrekd
      @GetShrekd 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      To add variety to the game, probably, which you do get in forces. its the first game since 06 to have 3 gameplay styles
      plus another reason is maybe so even people who prefer classic sonic would get a slice of the cake in the game, which is understandable, but completely ignores the more hardcore audience and most people who've already played other classic sonic games to death. i hope they don't try to cater to everyone in the next game, and just focus on something consistent

    • @jdawson7877
      @jdawson7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GetShrekd if they want to pander to classic fans thats literally what mania is for forces is suppose to be for 3d fans classic sonic has no reason to be there.
      Also if they wanted to add variety to the game they have a huge cast characters they can use to do that but they won't use them because they been so afraid to have sonic friends playable since 06

  • @AJVixen-zf5es
    @AJVixen-zf5es 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would put the werehog in S tier imo

  • @just_viben07
    @just_viben07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sega gives sonic a sword
    Matthasnocuts: yes
    Sega gives shadow a gun
    Matthasnocuts: GET THE HELL OUT OF MY FACE

  • @chaosprogrammer2219
    @chaosprogrammer2219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Werehog in the A tier: LIT
    Rookie is placed above it: BULLSHIT

  • @Mike-mf3ed
    @Mike-mf3ed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the Werehog and it’s most enjoyable to play as when fully levelled up. It’s also not to hard because of the ring glitch in Chun-nan (rip-off china) which allows you to buy food to level up. You can also play the waiting game because as long as you don’t level up the normal sonic often, then the Werehog will be almost max level by the time you get to the second final boss. I suggest doing both. You’ll get the best out of the Werehog if you level up his combos (beautiful fighting styles that are worth unlocking), strength (makes the levels slightly shorter) and life (less likely to die so less time spent), the other options aren’t as necessary but I still recommend upgrading them.
    I love the Werehog because I consider it a perfect fusion of strength and speed. And the stretchy arms benefit how he fights when you unlock combos, so that doesn’t bother me. The only thing I don’t like is the name, only because people pointed out the mistake that it were stands for human , so instead it should be called a Hedge-wolf. That never bothered me until people mentioned it…

  • @colin3216
    @colin3216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel like the wherehog is a pretty good hack and slash type style you just gotta be into those kind of games

  • @cyberwolf5896
    @cyberwolf5896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me watching the video: Ok I see your points and I understand what you mean and why you like these ideas.
    My Inner Sonic Fanboy: STOP CALLING THEM ALIENS, THEIR CALLED WISPS!

  • @allenwantstodie7378
    @allenwantstodie7378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:47 wait why does Sonic even have a shirt

  • @ChaosBloodNinja
    @ChaosBloodNinja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Honestly I think giving Shadow a gun at least for his own title was a good idea. If they couldn't kill him off as was intended in SA2 then he needed a strong identity as the "edgy and dark" anti-hero alternative to Sonic to justify his continued existence.

  • @Ibalistic_hedge
    @Ibalistic_hedge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Classic sonic isn't a gimmick, he's technically he's a different character

  • @KingKayro87
    @KingKayro87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, the guns in Shadow the Hedgehog are very good and fun to use.

  • @EnderElectrics
    @EnderElectrics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was actually really suprised you didn't like the gun gameplay, and was looking forward to some of your reasons for putting it in D Tier.
    Then you moved on.

    • @EnderElectrics
      @EnderElectrics 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same with Heroes, what's up with you in this video? I thought you were gonna bash the fact the switching itself is inconsistent or the fact you can't always switch to your teammates but no you just didn't give any insight on why you put it in B Tier

  • @jdawson7877
    @jdawson7877 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    " i just can't stand the idea of giving sonic characters guns"
    you must really hate fang the sniper

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      G.U.N. has a gun, how does that make you feel?

    • @smolboi7541
      @smolboi7541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also, every badnik including Gamma and Omega have guns.

  • @TheSqueakerNerd
    @TheSqueakerNerd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I did really like the sword quite a bit. I also like the idea of parkour for sonic. I've never gotten to play lost world but I've seen it and the parkour looks like it could work. Anything that could get us closer to running like sonic does in the sonic CD short.

  • @cerealkiller4702
    @cerealkiller4702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    S:
    A: 3D (Adventure), Classic Sonic
    B: Hero and Dark Side, Parkour, Sword, Rookie, Wisps, Team Gameplay,
    C: Guns, Werehog, Classic Sonic (Forces),
    D:

  • @Finnland278
    @Finnland278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can guarantee this list is gonna change every new release. Soon we're gonna be praising classic sonic as the second coming of Christ.

  • @nerozx1108
    @nerozx1108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great to see that the werehog is having the love it deserves, I love that gameplay, it has its flaws but they do not take away from the fun for me.
    my favorite Gimmicks are the Werehog, Caliburn and wisps, I had so much fun with these

  • @edwardrobinson5470
    @edwardrobinson5470 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. I like the specific guns like the satellite gun in hedghog better than sword gameplay.

  • @Katakuna15
    @Katakuna15 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m thinking Sonic 06’s failure has to do with lack of gimmicks in recent games.

    • @Katakuna15
      @Katakuna15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Forces’ failure too.

  • @joleafonso9
    @joleafonso9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wikipedia: Any object can be used as a Weapon when used to attack or threaten a being as well as for self-defense.
    D - Sonic Characters with Weapons (Everyone has them except Sonic {not counting his spines})
    B- Sword is a Weapon
    I'm just kidding guys.

  • @fawfulmark2
    @fawfulmark2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2 additions I would add:
    SS Tier: Super Sonic in Sonic 2 and following games.
    F Tier: Good/Neutral/Evil Mission system in Shadow the Hedgehog.

    • @cakelayer
      @cakelayer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Super sonic is horrible! The rings get constantly drained, wheres the fun in that?

    • @fawfulmark2
      @fawfulmark2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cakelayer it's a risk/reward factor that gives incentive to keep your momentum and resource management properly in exchange for a massive power boost. The alternative of making it without the drawbacks would just have it be scrutinized as a win button and not as fondly liked as it currently is.

  • @Crispeaks
    @Crispeaks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sword was fun, too bad you basically came to a screeching halt whenever you swung that thing.

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No guns in Sonicgames. Except the police(SA1 opening cutscene) and the military(Gun uses guns a lot, lol) and the mechs(Those weapons on them are basically just stronger guns) and Dr. Eggman(The cutscenes where he threatens the life of amy) and the E-Series robots(Their arms are guns) and Omega(He literally has miniguns built into him) and the Avatar(Wispon) and er....Tails(in the cutscene when he was almost controlled by the deadly six) and the Egg robos and....the tornado and the 06 eggman-robots and....and....

    • @lynxfresh5214
      @lynxfresh5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The fact there exists a military organization called "G.U.N". It's almost seems like Sega actually WANTS Sonic characters to use guns... the horror... :0

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Lynx Fresh Or it might be a coincidence. But I don't think GUoN makes very makes very much sense so just shorten it to GUN. GUoN sounds like a fine pasta

  • @Mike_Flaven
    @Mike_Flaven 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't understand the distain of sonic characters using guns, I mean for shadow and most characters it's stupid
    but there is a character that had a gun before shadow and it made sense because it was apart of their character Fang the Sniper.

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's probably because 2005 left a sour taste in everyone's mouth.

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      didn't G.U.N. uhhhhhhhh SHOOT MARIA in sa2? Yeah this argument is bad

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Spritvio What even happened in 2005?

  • @mr.irrelevant8826
    @mr.irrelevant8826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seeing the where hog getting respect makes me respect you back ✊

  • @JonyPlayz1
    @JonyPlayz1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The gimmicks can be intressting

  • @Venkitty
    @Venkitty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    perfect tier list

  • @decayingfeces
    @decayingfeces 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely agree with this list!

  • @sanik2146
    @sanik2146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Sonic characters should not have guns” But omega literally has gun arms

    • @hydrochloric007
      @hydrochloric007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I remember correctly Eggman has guns, and G.U.N. has well, guns

    • @sanik2146
      @sanik2146 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hydrochloric007 I just put omega since they’re both on team dark, guns are literally a part of his body, and one time Matt said that sonic characters should not have guns, omega was literally standing right beside shadow

  • @matheusalcantara6912
    @matheusalcantara6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the Werehog and Sonic Unleashed is my favorite game. But I wouldn't consider him a gimmick. He is more like a alternate playstyle in the same way the Adventure games has multiple playable characters.

  • @redspindashx6324
    @redspindashx6324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Finally someone spoke faccs. The only thing I don't agree with is the guns being in D because I genuinely like the guns and I feel they're implemented well enough into a sonic game, but then again, I really like shadow as a game so I am a bit biased

  • @El_Mince
    @El_Mince 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My favorite gimmick is the partner switch in mania plus

  • @sonicthefox2478
    @sonicthefox2478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Rookie/Avatar, the team gameplay, the sword, and the parkour are all awesome and I would love anyone of them to come back. Sword and team mechanic are the least likely to return though.
    The avatar is my favorite part of forces actually. One of the few reasons I go back to play the game. (The soundtrack is the other reason I go back to play the game.)
    That said, ClassicSonic in Forces is okayish to me. I do think his physics suck, but I don't think he's the worst thing I've ever experienced in Sonic. (That goes to the enterity of Secret Rings.)

  • @StanleyBibbs
    @StanleyBibbs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The werehog was my favorite character in unleashed and also my second favorite is also the parkour in lost world

  • @floofycupkim1197
    @floofycupkim1197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If i had to make guns more useful. Id have targets being a thing to open doors or work as a way to open things

  • @cumcockproductions6433
    @cumcockproductions6433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant recover from the immense damage i got from matt putting hero/dark in C tier and not in the SSSS+++ ULTRA tier

  • @Godooable
    @Godooable ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic with guns, nooooo
    Sonic with swords? Aw yeah!!!!

  • @mincecraftredstone6196
    @mincecraftredstone6196 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Classic sonic generations, lost world parkour and wisp is s
    Avatar, Werehog ,dark vs hero is A
    B is Excalibur
    C is classic sonic forces
    D is hero mechanic (this is probably my biased against heroes)

  • @JC7146
    @JC7146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah yes, the Wis-
    "the aliens from sonic colors"
    Oh, ok
    lol

  • @chrumak8085
    @chrumak8085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like Classic Sonic in Forces. His Levels are one of my favorites.

  • @user-sq3bk1zc6b
    @user-sq3bk1zc6b ปีที่แล้ว

    The guns in Shadow the Hedgehog could have worked if they more like blasters. Smth like what mechs in SA1 and SA2 had but reworked to be held in a hand of a Sonic character. Also, the general idea of mixing different gameplay styles from SA2 into one character is actually pretty interesting.

  • @Onaterdem
    @Onaterdem 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    100% agreed with the list. Wow.

  • @thelognerrator
    @thelognerrator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imo, my problem with the parkour system is that the level design doesn't really utilize it much, it's always just an optional path, it's one of the reasons I like the 3DS version since it utilities it a lot more but that's just me.

  • @kingdame305
    @kingdame305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I woulda put the team gimmick from heroes in S tier to be honest. As a sonic fan, I feel like that team system was the best thing to come out of sonic when it came to gameplay

  • @maseehwardak6055
    @maseehwardak6055 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really loved the guns in shadow the hedgehog and the parkour system in sonic lost is cool but I don't like most of the stages in sonic lost world it would have been better if it was a bit realistic like sonic unleashed and it could've been one of the best sonic game

  • @NCR_Colonol
    @NCR_Colonol หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ll never forgive this video for not adding Sonic’s Genie ring from SATSR because as huge lover of that game and also someone who loves the gimmick I wanted to see opinions on it.

  • @alexsanimeart5706
    @alexsanimeart5706 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Colors and Werehog are probably my two favorite gimmicks

  • @Sydney_Angelyt
    @Sydney_Angelyt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally, caliburn getting some love

  • @Flare8295
    @Flare8295 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sonic having a sword is the most badass thing to come in the series over Shadow having a gun?

  • @khenryx86
    @khenryx86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's funny. If you mismatched the length of the avatar levels with the werehog game play, and the customizability of werehog actions with the avatar game play, I bet that these gimmicks would both be S tier

  • @tengenzone
    @tengenzone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Aliens/Wisps are F tier should have never existed

    • @kamsienyioha4574
      @kamsienyioha4574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They’re not that bad

    • @spritvio639
      @spritvio639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nah, they're pretty S tier atleast for Colors. Generations they get a D, Lost World maybe a C and Forces maybe a B or an A.

    • @tengenzone
      @tengenzone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dont get me wrong they were good for that game (Colors), but leave them in that game, they dont need to return.

  • @darkexe3161
    @darkexe3161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can call me crazy or an idiot but I loved the gun gimmick from Shadow the hedgehog!

  • @OminousBlast
    @OminousBlast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was happy till I saw the rookie. This is a fine gimmick until u realise he took the spot of one of our beloved characters.

  • @christiankibuule352
    @christiankibuule352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It kinda makes sense though after the bonus zone classic sonic was sucked into a portal along with the ruby thus how dr eggman found it and classic sonic entered modern Sonic’s world

  • @mediamuncher6982
    @mediamuncher6982 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Other sonic characters have guns like fang and eggman.

    • @Matthasnocuts
      @Matthasnocuts  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The difference is that Eggman and Fang had cartoony guns that fits in the world of Sonic. An MP5 doesn't fit in the world of Sonic.

  • @VampireA1056
    @VampireA1056 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Werehog is Badass.

  • @victino1684
    @victino1684 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite Sonic gimmicks are the elemental shields and chao garden.

  • @J_TheAntiSosh
    @J_TheAntiSosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was hoping that the boost was gonna be on here but I guess it’s not a gimmick. If is was I would put it on S tier.

  • @Pogal
    @Pogal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would have been nice to see a full teir list of all of them together somewhere.

  • @toxicv1ncefollower9
    @toxicv1ncefollower9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ""Lets bring classic sonic for no reason!""
    he was teleported there from the phantom ruby in sonic mania

    • @CoalWurld
      @CoalWurld 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Obviously, lmao.