Pastor Tim Ross DEBATES Princella The Queenmaker on MARRIAGE, FAMILY & MONOGAMY
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This interview needed more listening to understand and not to respond on both sides. Every time Tim spoke she softened up because he was not trying to prove her wrong. He was trying to understand. He showed her that men can also be empathetic. I feel that he left a positive impression on her. This is how you bring people to the kingdom.
Maybe
Listening to understand is a huge first step for having compassion for the marginalized. "Compassion" meaning empathy + justice/ problem solving
More men need to submit to God and actually start acting godly for women. Every church I went to was filled with more women and the the “godly “ man I was married to treated me and the children as servants to him. I divorced him after 17 miserable years and will never marry again.
@pats8219 the head of the church probably preferred you leave your husband and serve him instead.
🤡. We are not following Jesus ya are delusional. You guys don’t even understand Christ Consciousness, has nothing to do with a male but the original CHRISTOS DNA of the original ascended human which most of you are not, and can’t reach, and at this rate will never reach unless Mother Nature sets you straight or deals with you as needed, you don’t even have the capacity to understand higher knowledge. He did have more empathy then the vast majority of males she encounters and could actually listen to some of her message but none the less a male is a male and all ya did is prove her right on everything men are inacabable of love and understanding love, because real love is just not part of your beingness. Men can’t even see what’s unfolding and that all this is much bigger than Princella and coming straight from the divine mother because she is done with how the feminine has been treated on this planet for thousands of years no one knows true feminine exaltation because it has not been allowed to exist for a longgg time due to mass persecution. The male is unwilling to face his shadow and karma and looks for all kinds of excuses to coddle is fragile ego.
You guys are the real anti-Christ going against the divine order even early Christians understood archons and that Christianity is based off of astrology and esoteric teachings. You guys pale in comparison to early Christians and if you actually studied some history you would know this and that Christianity is also based off of pagan lore and that Jesus’s story is a REPEATED archetype, same exact archetype as in pagan lore, it’s MYTHOLOGY because existence CANNOT be conveyed through language, it’s an EXPERIENCE, that is irrefutable facts. The real knowledge is the Her-metic philosophy. The divine feminine is rising and you can’t stop what’s coming. The original God is the GODDESS who came lone before fallen patriarchal religions which were created for planetary domination and Transhumanism. The divine mother is who gives you life and nourishes you, even your Y chromosome is a degenerate X chromosome. Women created men. Women came first and a males whole existence is trying to be like a woman because she is the source. When ya are ready to humble yourselves perhaps you can evolve.
Shout out to the Pastor for being receptive, open, non-judgmental, and unbothered!
In what world is crying over her story unbothered? He would have showed no emotion at all of that were the case.
He is amazing and renewed my belief in men of “God”
I look at life realistically as well
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Unbothered was not why they brought him. That woman talked a lot, yet I barely heard Tim's message. Her version of the truth was overpowering
I loved how Tim Ross handled her with care and compassion. He never judged or argued with her. I listened intently.
Omg!! When Pastor Tim had the revelation, I wanted to jump out my seat! I absolutely LOVED the way The Word & what she was saying came together bc it kept connecting for me too but I couldn’t put my finger on it & then boom! Pastor Tim hit the nail. She is certainly closer to the Kingdom than what she even knows.. Love this…
Lol bu saying the nuclear family doesn’t exist. People really don’t know the Bible at all
There is no kingdom to reach, atleast not for women
She just gotta believe in Christ Jesus and the holy spirit. BUT she thinks the bible is just a book that men wrote.
@@indiawood19she believes in a higher power (i.e GOD) but she doesn't believe in Jesus.
she doesn't subscribe to a male god. she doesn't believe in a nuclear family bc it's not natural. marriage is man made. nuclear family is man made. religion is man made.
the proof is in the pudding. most marriages end in divorce. . proof it's not natural to stay with one person who is the opposite sex.
man destroy humanity. you see it through the bible
man treat woman like property or mistreat them.. you see it in marriages and long term relationships
the list goes on and on. her references are science based; tangible proof... which i believe we need bc we're living on earth. ppl need something to answer "why" we are here. what's the purpose of us being here. etc
The revelation didn’t for me!! He’s right what she’s trying to do will never work without God.
This became so much better once they allowed Princella & Tim to have a true conversation.
I agree!
Right? The interruptions and rude cutoffs “yes or no answers” were not productive
Yes!! They need their own podcast 😮💨😮💨
Yes that’s the only bad thing about HI if u tune into them then we know they have growing to do they are still very immature but they are no where near where they use to be. She’s talking to one man of God here and two males
@@Nita75070they are still the same in my book. It’s just they took a pivot because there’s no longevity in the manosphere anymore.
1. From observing Princella, her life experiences sent her on a quest to scientifically understand a man's behavior. She has synthesized what she's learned and created the platform she has today and has chosen to deliver advice to women based on scientific evidence. Her message will go over most people's heads because the average human reads at a 7th-8th grade level.
2. The Hardly Initiated team failed to do what the Pastor did, which is listen with an inclusive lens. Their stance from the beginning was to dismantle the ideologies she's studied. Science vs spirituality are hard to exist in this conversation. They also cut her off after asking her to share her personal experiences. Asking her to shorten her thoughts. Make it simple. Men want women to communicate simply. Women are more verbose. Hence, the podcasters not genuinely listening to understand vs respond like the pastor did. Cutting her off also communicated you could care less about her past hurts which is definitely not the Biblical way and hopefully you two will take the time to apologize for this. She deserves an apology for that segment specifically.
3. Pastor Tim seemed to be very genuine in his responses and showed great care to be inclusive and not divisive. He sought to find similarities and not harp in the differences in thought and belief. That is a very rare trait and is to be commended. Had he not been on this panel this evening, no progress would've been made and Princella's entire messaging would've been dismissed. His emotional intelligence is high. He seeks to understand. He knows a woman needs more words than a man. He seems to be the 1% man all women are desiring and hope to find. May he infect the 99% to follow his leadership on how to treat women.
Exactly 💯
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She's just saying dumb stuff that any person with a decent amount of intelligence can easy pick apart. You're lost you thing
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Ryan and Tysean were hell bent on telling her she was wrong when if they sat and reflected she wasn't. Their own male guests who may be good husbands NOW, have all said that - in the early years of their marriage and relationships they put their wives through a lot. That they were cheaters, they were immature, they were broke and had to be supported, etc. I've listened to most of their male guests - and all have put women through "trauma".
Ryan and Tysean have also admittedly put women through trauma. I remember a guest (I think it was the female virgin from the show last week), asking Tysean why he was criticizing women about having a lot of bodies (sexual partners) while he himself has contributed to a number of women's body count. He got defensive and didn't want to address it in an objective way. He admitted he was wrong but didn't want to focus on his wrongness.... only the woman's. Child even the male virgin they bring on is toxic as hell.... talking about "shorty" this and "shorty" that.
Tim Ross you made me feel safe. The way you spoke calmly, non-confrontational, understanding and patient. You truly are the dopest believer, father, husband and man Ive ever witnessed in ministry. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Men don't understand the first male to break a woman's heart usually is her father..... this is why it's important to be a good father....... yes, I grew up in a nuclear household.
Triggering and true.
Right.
Pastor Tim is the Most mature Pastor that’s ever come on this show hands down. He is a true representation of Christ. Men of God take notes! Straight humility and strength at the same time! Pastor was skilled in his ability to pinpoint the similarities in the message and still was able to see her value despite not agreeing with some points she made . He ate the meat and threw away the bones sort of speak. The essence of Spiritual maturity Pastor Tim has demonstrated. As a woman with Christian values Princella has helped me understand the nature of men and women as a whole. She is able to explain things in a very logical, practical and scientific sense. Its often too easy just to use scripture to answer someones questions. You’re really skilled when you can help someone understand scriptures without having to even quote it.
He's a simp
@@erock9594you’re proving Princellas point
Exactly 💯 Sis
I like that does somebody wanna tell me who's supposed to fix all these broken ass? Black women that follow princella and her broken black ass. As you see, the men are well on their way to fixing themselves in writing the ship. But she has said absolutely nothing about the women. The state of mind they're state of mind. Are they working on themselves? Are they getting therapy? Are they losing weight? She said absolutely nothing about the broken black women dead that all these great Willie Justin. Newly fixed men are supposed to deal with or maybe I heard that wrong
I agree but the men will never agree because of their agenda to still have access to sex WITH women so their male nature is going to always want to preserve their desires that’s why they don’t do religion well. They have failed collectively for thousands of years or else we wouldn’t be STILL having the same issues & worst.
Tim Ross is brilliant!
"Love covers a multitude of sin." Tim chose to love and defend the Queens humanity.
He also made his theology and beliefs very clear without weaponizing them against her, to win the argument
Today Tim Ross taught me a very important message about Love.
What we see with Tim Ross in this video is God's love demonstrated .
Amen!
He actually proved her right that men are incapable of love in-spite of him showing some empathy, ya can't see it, but all men do is prove her right on everything, all this panel did is try to protect their access to women, it was all ego, no self reflection, Tim even admitted afterwards that his wife asked for divorce after 20 years of marriage if he had true integrity, he would have said something live while she was speaking on the divorce rates and how men expect women to sacrifice themselves for their lower nature. Its insane...
Yes indeed. He was not trying to win. He was trying to reconcile their different views from different perspectives as much as possible. I give the HI props for bringing her on.
If you are a true believe in the Lord Jesus Christ you can not go along with this young lady,it sounds good,but to God this is like the serpent in Adam and Eve,so you all want more children to not have a stable home,God made man,then he put man to sleep and took a rib and m are woman for him,God said it is not for this man to be alone,she is his helpmate,help mate, young woman is being use to go against the WORD OF GOD.
@@beatricewilliams7143I'm not supporting or going along with her..
As a woman who has been married I totally agree.. the men never commented on her comments about women who are married are highly encouraged to let God fix it.. nope.. I am now ready to get married again after 11 years of healing and I only stayed in a bad situation because of my religious beliefs! I never learned how to date… I had to fall, put my heart in a man’s hand and allow him to crush it to pieces, then allow myself to wait for a new heart ♥️ capable of loving again but we have to as Christians learn how to date.. stop pushing people to the alter because they’re single and in the same ⛪️ church
We as Christians have to learn to hear God. He directs our paths and directs us to the people we need to yoke with. Part of the issue is people aren’t listening to God’s voice and they are picking spouses based on their freshly desires. Study a person long enough and you’ll see if they are sent from God or the enemy. Pastor Tim proved this today. He shows the love of God.
I'ma need her on the Basement w/o these two hosts cause I think Pastor Tim gets her WAY more than they do
Their brain is not developed.
He's married and in a seemingly healthy relationship. These type of men have more balance and understanding of feminine energy than most bachelor's.
Yep they thought the pastor was gonna come and tear her down like they tried to do
Yes
Yes they proved every point she was making. And she still got the point out even with them making it difficult.
I'm a 49 Year old Black male...and when i say Princella has really really made me think about some things....She really made me take a deep look at my past behaviors/relationships...
Good🫶🏽
I’m so glad someone can understand. Even though it sounds different from what we KNOW the things she’s saying is happening DAILY within male and female relationships.
You 50 years old and princella, 38, make you check yourself on these topics really? That make me question your upbringing big homie?
I came to the realisation years ago watching westerners that there are many children in the adult population. I don't mean to sound insulting but I just have to say it as it is. Many of you, males and females included, are horny teenagers in adult bodies. Truth be told, you guys need Jesus in your lives.
This is what appears to be affecting the black culture.
When men rise to the ocassion and begin to really, REALLY take accountability for their actions, there'll be change.
It'll be tough holding the mirror to your own face. It'll be tough to admit your insecurities and vulnerabilities to yourself talk more others. But if you can take that first step, the rest would begin to fall in place.
It takes a grown man to admit his shortcomings and his growth. Well said @Beastmode4ever.
Whole time Tim Ross was silent, the Holy Spirit was speaking 😂 the silent spoke volumes for me!!! I couldn’t wait for him to break it down! Come through God
@aliciarushing4707 He handled himself great. She is a broken woman. She's separated and only use men for reproduction. Most of her evidence is based in animal behavior. I know the research she is twisting. And these stats come from ABUSED women. She's not honest and disingenuous. FRAUD!
My God, this episode was powerful.
Princilla has such a story...captivating speaker.crazy story, smh. The pain...smh
Much respect to Pastor Tim for his level patience, active listening and temperance.
Much respect to Tysean for allowing this dialogue to play out this way. You gave an extraordinary amount of grace and that takes power!
You saw pain and not intelligence. Interesting 😂
Yes, she kept her composure! She's very intelligent and changed my life!
For me one of the major points she landed on and emphasized is this: Men are the problem and men are the answer. Men are the problem and answer to sexual and physical abuse; men are the problem and answer to fatherlessness; men are the problem and answer to sex trafficking. Men must mentor and disciple men to become better men. Apart from that the proliferation of misogynistic, manipulative, and materialistic men will continue to grow. If more pastor focused on helping men get whole, we could make a dent in the problem. If we get the man right, then we will get the marriage, family and community right. How many pastors are up for the challenge?
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Amen agreed
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Amennnnnnn! This! And you're a pastor??? Wow. I appreciate you for this VERY enlightened conclusion
#FewAreCalled
You're wrong and lacking intelligence
This was more challenging for the podcasters than Tim. I have more respect for Tim because he demonstrated a lot of divine masculinity.
Yes!!!!
Divine Masculinity indeed🙌🏾
YESSSSS
Yessssssss
lol he just has a higher IQ than the other two.
The entire conversation was important and much needed for our culture.
I just have some pointers.
Princella, you said that the place in which you speak from with men telling you their “secrets” isn’t unique. You have insight in that you don’t seemed charmed by the men you be around, but the men you been around sound just like my experiences and the difference is that i didn’t keep them around.
Now I will say that a good man can show you his good character when he’s around one woman but then another woman who allows him to have whatever power he could be tempted to switch to that darker side of himself. This is why it’s an act of God to find a faithful man which means it’s a miracle.
Now, I needed to here Princella speak because I resonated with everything she experienced. I’ve lost jobs from men wanting to harm me and having more social influence to use against me. I wouldn’t date a woman though. I don’t think I’d ever go that far.
This is why men need rites of passage. Rites of passage are so important. There is a true need for men who are loving, intellectually intelligent and spiritual to lead and support other men. When men can help other men heal then they will be better prepared to interact with women in a more healthy manner.
As a married woman listening to this, I don’t feel that her message is to get rid of men but how to function with them. Women have been feed this image of men being the knight and shining armor which isn’t true. If we know what to expect, we know how to move. Also I think the conversation would have been better with just her and the pastor.
I agree
Absolutely
SHOUT OUT TO US MARRIED WOMEN WHO SEEN AND HEARD THE TRUTH!!
I agree
She admittedly said she advocates that women don't deal with men and move on their own. And we know she's only talking about black men. Men have ALSO been fed an image of women which isn't true. But that isn't as important i'm sure and probably think men should just figure it out. Truth is, we wouldn't be here if we weren't already here. Men have evolved way past primal instincts to help move forward society. She's only to cause division. Admittedly.
I’ve only watched 42 mins of this so far and I love how pastor Tim, regardless of him not agreeing with her, stays composed and respectful. We can’t argue anyone to heaven, we can’t shame someone to repentance. The fruits of the spirit definitely come out of him here.
I agree but want to add that All the men on this podcast showed great restraint with this conversation because it was a tough one. Princella was not being as gracious she came off as male bashing but they gave her time to explain herself
@@keelhe893that pretty much what she does😔🫤😟
Ryan was so frustrated as was I. Some of her statistics 📈 need fact checking. I wish her complete healing and restoration!!!
Absolutely 🙏🏾❤️
I totally agree. I cringed a little bit watching this! Because her philosophy of this is from a science perspective, and we all know who created science! So to speak from this standpoint is her opinion on how she feel men and women should operate with raising families, scientifically, etc….. but I bow out gracefully, and may god work through her and show her something different…. 😊
I am a black woman and I’ve been happily married for years. I’ve done everything to make sure he succeeds in life and vice versa. Several of us exist. We are not the exception.
It’s very unfortunate that any woman would continue to do put theirselves in situation with men who act like boys, create a “philosophy” about how all men and women are all the same and how all men and women should be separate, instead of looking inside themselves and understand why they continue to attract horrible men who they don’t even want in their homes.
I pray that women in this situation get help and do work on themselves.. only then will you find a great man and become a great wife.
Girl bye. You are indeed the MINORITY. Stats don’t lie and we can’t keep blaming women for how the men’s decide to behave. Those days are over 😅😴
@@bambilotto yes you do exist, she never said it does not exist, she laid out what it takes for it to exist. The reality statistically is that this is an exemption, exception meaning a majority of people don’t experience it. The reality is that we need to speak to the majority. Whenever the exception wants to speak in a narrative like this as if their experiences are conventional it becomes gaslighting. More people divorce as opposed to staying married, there are more single mothers than women in a relationship with a man who both are the parent, more women take on the burden of the domestic, emotional and the intellectual labour in relationships. When a women reads your comment she is less likely to guard and build against being subject to abuse, but if she inherently understands that currently in the world what you have is an exception then the conversation becomes how do I become part of the exceptions and it grows and grows until it is the majority. When a man hears you he builds excuses and justifies himself, instead of correcting himself and that further causes harm to the women around him that hope he gets this message.
Best comment!
2:30:00 cracked my chest wide open. Tim is golden. A shining example of a man properly led by Thee man who can lead more men (and women) the right and righteous way. Bravo, kind sir. 💜
Here's something intriguing from my time serving as a Christian counselor: in almost every married couple I counseled, men would often express dissatisfaction with the frequency of sex and share frustrations about their partners' complaints. On the other hand, women frequently mentioned emotional distress and high levels of stress within their relationships and surroundings. Princella is addressing some uncomfortable truths that many may shy away from. It's essential that we listen because she's touching on something significant, and this observation is based on a substantial number of Christian couples grappling with marital issues. While some may attempt to reconcile biology with scripture, I've personally encountered numerous instances of cheating pastors and church members, and lots of family dysfunction, which lends credence to her argument.
You hit the nail on the head.
Princess are your Male/Female family cohesiveness statements based on the psychological problems that results from human men not mice? Family, male/ female, Divisiveness definitely causes Black Family Dysfunction & Black Male Demise! The male masculinity functions are to direct, protect, & provide that educates, motivates, & demonstrates Black family unification! Female nurturing, supporting, Creativity ,motivating, & stimulating the emotional educational growth! Separation brings about annihilation! The simplicity of male/female compatibility is unification! Female reproduction can’t exist without male sperm introduction! Your vitriolic verbiage of male condemnation coincides with the white powerful systemic separation resulting in Black Family annihilation! I agree that non marital Black Female statistics have increased due to inherited female indoctrination & commonly expressed from ignorance “ I DON’T Need A Man” thus promotes homosexuality! Women also adorn themselves for male acceptance witch can be intentional larcenous looking for financial, physical, & emotional satisfaction!RESPECTFUL BIBLICAL Foundational TRUTHS That REFUTES FALSE FEMALE EMOTIONAL Feelings that FORGES satanic Separation from Pernicious Philosophers that you promote! Male/Female Relationship Education is VITAL for Relationship Cohesiveness! Princess please project the emotional equalization of Female separation that can promote egregious evils of jealousy, hostility, envious inferiority when compared to each other, & bitch brutality Is persistently prevalent! R Kipling’s poem The Female of The Species! Jezebel & the wicked women of the Bible are also written for our avoidance of evil behaviors! God is the AUTHORITY on promoting Unification of Male/ Female Relationships!
Sounds like sex addicts and women who need to grow up?💀 Most folks don’t comprehend and stick to scripture, we go our own way and pleasures are EZ to become addicted to while emotions are EZ to get manipulated by…
The fact that you are a Christian male counselor saying this speaks volumes. It is cool to hear your pov. I am saying this as a Christian woman.
So, as a “Christian counsellor” your endorsing the break up of the nucleus family and the fact that men are incapable of functioning accordingly in a relationship? I guess this is why they say seek WISE COUNSEL” 😏
2:30:51 ⬅️ the moment Tim humanized himself to her experiences and shows compassion when nobody else in this interview would. This is why we dwell!!!! Thank you Holy Spirit 🥲🩷
Yes. I'm not Christian but willing to give the book a look through Pastor Tim.
Yaaassss Sis!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Omg I’m already pissed lol every woman with kids and no man in the house isn’t on welfare 🙄
Facts❤
Women thrive with balance, which is why the man must be whole mentally, spiritually, and emotionally
The host made it difficult for the conversation to flow. Tim and Princella speaking to each other was perfection🙏🏽👌🏽🔥
She dominated him, he cried and tapped out, submitted 😢 Thats not perfect
Absolutely came to say the same. He over talked and rushed everyone, including his co-host . Made it hard to watch
Right.. I just fast forwarded every time they chimed in.
Half of u black women are lesbian that is facts
@@SunManality can’t argue with facts
Women can't say that they've been mistreated by men, because when she speaks on men, they'll always say she's broken 💔, when really she's intelligent 🧠.
Being broken hearted and intelligent are 2 complete different topics. I know plenty of smart people who are dealing with trauma. Many of the wealthiest people are not necessarily the happiest. Different, 1 has nothing to the do with the other
@@Mr1Musicloverjust like how you can be religious and evil.
@daddydiavolo8378 being religious IS evil
She’s broken and intelligent. But the intellect cannot conceal the brokenness.
Her ideology will not help women, we need God
This interview was SOOOOO much more pleasant than the interview she had with Charleston White. This was a mature conversation. Thanks you guys ❤
This was not a Debate. It was a platform. She frequently dominated and took over the conversation. She went in circles never answering one of the first questions asked. Which was, tell, or demonstrate, or say what does the community of women look like. She went into detail about how and why men are bad. She never gave the same details about the women's great village model. Did I miss it?
I learned that I need to love my wife and daughter even more! I learned that my wife may be putting up with things in my marriage and regardless of that woman's conclusion, she opened my eyes to what I must do. Awesome conversation.
I pray for you're wife's sanity and I pray she learns to love herself enough to know you're her burden and she can get rid if you if she had a stronger mind
@@foxylady6901😂😂😂😂 lost
And this is the beautiful part of family. Bravo my brother
@@foxylady6901 the cool thing is, she does love herself enough to know that she can walk at any point and completely doesn’t want to because that is her choice. Not everyone in a marriage is miserable.
Im glad you took the lessons from Princella to better yourself as a father and a husband instead of getting in your feelings. Good on you and I wish you the best for you and your family. May your daughter and wife benefit from your care and hardwork becoming a better person.
I'm a Christian. To be perfectly honest...after praying for a husband and praying for a husband and begging God for a husband...He finally said to me loud and clear (after I asked Him if He was punishing me for something or if something was wrong with me) that He hadn't given me a husband because He was protecting me.
I dont think anyone knows just how POWERFUL your comment is🙏🏾
Protecting you from...?? If you've never had a husband how can you know you need protection FROM one??
@@BasedTruth look around you, having a husband is not a flex for alot of women. It is a flex for me cause my hubby serves me, and I serve him. 20 years happily married I have a rare man. When my husband agrees with a lot of what the Queen says and the way he shows his love for me and my family, I know I have a man that has elevated beyond his natural male nature and I thank God everyday. The things my hubby does I know a lot of men would never do. He adds to my happiness and I am very thankful for him in my life. With that said, not all men are deserving of a woman period, and some women need to know that being alone is perfectly okay. Men need women more than women need men. 😌
Wow! So profound!
@@sg5720You've got a 1%r. ❤
Jus let males talk & they will always prove her right 🤣🤣💌
Everytime‼️🥴🤣🤦🏾♀️
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Men and women need each other equally anything else is just pathological manipulation from trauma
Women need security
Men need something to secure
One cant exist without the other
I think a lot of y’all missed the point of this video. They painted her out to be a bad guy but she makes a lot of sense. She’s saying men operate best in their natural environment which is around other men to create a hierarchy and learn from others bc men only learn from other men. Similar to many other animals on Earth. Men can learn best through scripture bc God presented himself in the form of a man just for them to get the right message before entering a relationship with another woman. That’s why men's groups through church or otherwise work so well. That part was a 🔥 message to healing ourselves through the word of God.
They are too busy hating women to love themselves enough to see how they can be better human beings.
Even at that that they operate best in their natural environment,it still doesn't hold water, because they never hold each other accountable for ba behaviours. A man is out there in strip club with his co married friends, getting jiggy with it, and they encourage each other that that is actually the right thing to do. They storm out of the house on any given chance, switch off their phone, get around with their supposedly married mates, and jet off into the wild. They just cover up for each other. Now who's been played here? The woman of course, because they'll be laughing in her face in Hausa.
I stand with Princella when she talked about challenging and changing her own beliefs about men. Not only have i dated men of different caliber, I am also the only girl of 5 boys, and have also been in male dominated spaces such as the military and there definitely is a pattern in male behavior and psychology that needs to be addressed. Not only here in America but worldwide.
Men are quick to tell other men to abandon us and go to women overseas but fail to realize what life is like for women in other places. Women are being abused and taken advantage of everywhere. And it's mainly being perpetuated through the guise of organized religion. Do some research and you will be surprised at what you find out.
I also have had a man put a SHOTGUN to my face. I've also been physically abused and SA. Not only is this my experience, but it is the experience of many many women worldwide. But society will try to gaslight women by making her believe that their must be something wrong with her or we're just the unlucky ones to only have met bad men, instead of realizing that something is going on with the men!
So with that said I can see how her solution would be to separate. For the sake of our own protection. Because there is a large group of men who need to figure there ish out and women need a space that will help facilitate them remembering who they are and what their purpose is.
After all i have experienced, people will tell me, i just need to wait for the right man to come along. But I've decided that i just need to not focus on men at all. Because putting my focus into finding Mr. Right is the reason i have ended up with the negative experiences i have.
I also agree that romantic relationships should not be our primary focus. Look at the state of the world. People, children are starving and living on streets but all we care about is who we're going to spend our life laying next to. We shouldn't be focusing on bringing in new life when as a whole we are failing at sustaining the lives already here! There are much bigger things going on in the world that i need our IMMEDIATE attention.
There are so many other things i want to comment on but this is already wayyy too long so ill just leave it here. Very good conversation tonight.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 wonderfully stated!! 💯
What a beautiful and meaningful post. Thank you for sharing your experience. You are not alone. 💐💕
I am so sorry that you had to go through everything you've been through. Thank you for sharing. You're so brave. I
Omg! Yes! Well Said!
I stand with you on this!!! What’s more concerning is the pickme-mammies who will ignore everything you said just to call us hurt bc we don’t worship males like they do and we could careless about being jealous of their marriages with their cheating husbands. They will forgive Pastors and Ministers for cheating and blame every pretty woman with curves that come in the church. These women are dangerous and they are a problem too bc they enable these men.
I’ve been married for 20 years. There came a time when I couldn’t take the abuse. I divorced him in 2020. All I can say is Pastor P is on point….. She is telling the truth…… Men don’t hear women 😱……
They aren’t listening to her now
Why would we listen to her? She likes women in a sexual way …… she is the competition and sorry but that ain’t right.
I thank God for my wife, who loves me and wants to spend her life with me.
For the single men out here……. Turn your back on women who want to die single, their done anyway.
Your husband didn't listen to you. You don't get to speak for my marriage and how I treat the woman I love.
The men in.my life are very transparent with each other.
All of us have accountability for our personal and marital lives.
So please don't accuse all men of what your husband did to you. That's not fair and it's dishonest
There are men and women who are happily married and have been that way for a long time. I don't care what the studies and the statistics say you don't get to speak for the personal lives of marriages that you have no idea about.
All that energy you're spending trying to diagnose everybody should be spent on diagnosing yourself and making sure that you're the woman you need to be instead of focusing on demonizing men
@@israelsfusion4727bingo.... some of their responses pretty much validated her points...
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They keep saying she’s being divisive but we’re already divided mentally and spiritually. They want her to dumb things down for them and I hate that 1:50:58
Her message is very divisive. Tim was the only inclusive problem solving person on this panel.
@@unbiascowboy1537this lady literally back every thing up with science and cited research and the only thing yall got out of it was “divisiveness” smh yall just hate the truth. Tim literally said him and her preach the same thing just a different approach. Yall don’t like the fact that it’s coming from a women even though she literally broke everything down for yall with science, psychology, and philosophy. It’s true, most women are uneducated when it comes to men and their behaviors.
Two things I've learned. 1. Silence is important to allow for active listening and spiritual downloads. Tim's silence could have been mistaken for a lack of debating skills or even confusion, but he needed to be silent for God to speak. In short, we need to say less and listen more. 2. His revelation is so brilliant and on target (if you're asleep you will miss it) because it not only corroborates Princella's science view, but it ironically still puts Yeshua and JC at the top of that 'pecking order', the beginning and the end. Tim, you've even unlocked my brain. That's what's up! Men need women, but they need to be whole first to be able to take care of women as God intended for the women. Mic drop.
The issue is not broke families first. It's men who are not yet grown (whole) choosing to lead from a broken lens.
PS: She does make valid points but there is a point of departure, is there science data showing women living alone in their own communities would do better than men? Would be interesting to find out. Also, very true that her experiences are valid and should never be invalidated. finding the balance is the problem. It is true that men are not being talked to. It's always the women being talked to.
They say about 85% of black women have faced some kind of abuse in the household as children. Most of it being SA. Pretending this is not a huge issue and just anecdotal is invalidating and disrespectful. She has very valid points on why women need to separate and find divinity outside of a male centered society. Anyone telling women otherwise has something to gain.
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You F'ing dumbazz MOST of that abuse is from the MOM and her new BF or the step dad.. WOMEN DESTROY families while men protect them. G*T*FunkOH with your bull.
this is a bs stat
But over 80% of black kids are raised in single mothers households. So make it make sense??
@@brandonwilliams1851-- right!!! It's BLACK MOTHERS who are DESTROYING children. Anyone with 1/2 a brain can do the math. When dad is in the home (whether married or single custodial father) kids do well overall. When a mom takes over the lead and is the "protector" it all goes to hell. We need to STOP WORSHIPPING these house slaves who kicked dad out for gov't cheese. 97% of of the time when the mom says "dad left us" she ABUSED the feminist courts to push him out.
Princella will answer the question , but the guys can’t comprehend the build up.
Men are too impatient in general that’s why
Absolutely
@Teexytee777 she said herself that after 30 sec men can't hear or understand. Tim Ross in contrast is VERY intentional on being present which is a more feminine characteristic.
I think Princella represented her research very well. While I don't necessarily agree with all Princella's approaches to the issues, it isn't necessary that I do. I respect that her views are informed by her experiences, as are we all.
I see why it took 3 almost 4 hours for this interview, pastor Tim Ross is the only one who actually made a effort to put his own views on pause to really see where she was coming from.
And we saw the repair and healing the other hosts need to embrace. They got some of it but their impatience got the better part of them and ignored the path that could have been even more resolution for some of their women listeners. This is the podcast that I only listen to based on who their guest is. We all live and learn and hopefully remember the lessons we were on course to learn.
She totally broke it down…. The problem is people in ego defense (males and male-identified females) and cognitive dissonance.
Correct. You can tell people want to react. Somethings can’t be summed up in two sentences
My mother and sisters
The hosts reaction is strikingly similar to when you talk with some White people about WS/ racism.
Broke what down..She’s sleeping with women,She’s a whole lesbian… You’re as delusional, hateful, resentful and bitter.
Go sleep with women and leave men alone
Yess they know if all women think like her it’s game over so they gotta keep defending with not all men every single time
As a Christian woman I feel like the one big message I got out of this is women need to know their wholeness, understand their value; nurture their creativity and love (learn to) themselves wholly. I also like the point that women need to understand men and what it means to be in a marriage before committing their lives in that ministry. I also feel both guests agree that men need to submit to God (Higher Power) and work on themselves while seeking guidance from fellow men (women can’t do this for men)….i found this discussion/debate very interesting, thank you.
Spot on
Agree! It's called chew the meat and throw out the bones. But unenlightened people are unable to do that. Which is unfortunate. They throw out the entire meal. But there was a WHOLE LOT OF MEAT IN HERE!
I liked ur comment. My question is do u agree that not only men, but women too need to work on themselves to develop (and submit to God)?
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@@fishbowl8496 yes I agree that both men and women need to work on themselves….there is always room to learn and grow for everyone. As a Christian I also agree and believe both men and women need to submit to God / Higher Power and I believe God does not have a gender. God is Spirit and we can never understand God because God’s Being supersedes our human understanding.
Pastor T recognises his marriage has evolved and his commitment to her, his openness to show understanding is a powerful
What a beautiful conversation, just beautiful ❤️ This podcast is on another level, shout out to the hosts🎉
As a married man, I hate to be the bearer of bad news. Everyone isn’t cut out for marriage regardless of gender. It takes an exceptional person to get married and remain successfully married. The marriage and divorce rate numbers are accurate and it takes a special person to indefinitely pair-bond with another person. I pray for the best outcome for everyone. Honestly, there are some great people out there, but they are not great for marriage. God bless 🙏🏾
I totally agree some of the greatest people in the Bible died single
Agreed.
Very interesting perspective, UpdatedView. Would love to hear more detail about what kind of person it takes to remain successfully married.
I am not cut out for a lot of things, but that does not mean that I will not get the tools necessary to be better at it
That's not bad news because it helps some of us make a conscious decision vs. white picket fence thinking .
She’s actually right. I’ve never heard a woman brag about how long she’s been married lol. Whenever a man says he’s married immediately we are informed how long especially if it’s above average . I’m sure that woman has thought about leaving way more than he has .
I do this all the time. 30 years
If we all tell the truth, we will be set free.
that is so true
@@tysteward545here here! 11 years and will brag on my man at any opportunity… I guess he’s one of the .1%!
Oh I sho be bragging! 16 years in with 4 kids and happy honey!
TySean that was a major key!!! Surviving poverty verses Creating abundance!!! I need to shift my perspective instead of just surviving focus on striving!!!! Yayyyy, thanks bro!
The art of communication - LISTENING!! as well; having a willingness to learn to understand.
This was an amazing interview. I learned so much from both sides, and as a Christian woman I believe a-lot of what Princella says because like a lot of women I too have lived it repeatedly. Men don't hold other Men accountable. I suggest having Men on the show who admit that they treat women this way, lie, cheat, steal, rape, manipulate, use abuse and the list goes on. I have never seen a man say I did these things to a woman and this is WHY, now we can have a conversation!
Most men will never admit to doing these things to women.
The host on the panel know what she says is true! They've admitted to it on Pastor Jamal's interview. Men give each other daps for cheating + Princella will be condemned for exposing the man code. Steve Harvey was called a simp for exposing men to women.
My ex admitted it AFTER our divorce. He praised me for leaving because he wasn't ever going to file or change on his own.
Recently, I came across a video on TH-cam featuring a Pastor who shared a story about cheating on his wife with a man. He referred to it as a testimony, but I couldn't help but think about how the situation could have continued if he hadn't been caught. It's concerning how many individuals refuse to admit their actions until they're caught red-handed, and even then, some continue to hide the truth. This behavior is truly sinister.
Similar stories involving Bishops and Pastors, such as Bishop Eddie Long, are disheartening. The apparent betrayal must have shattered the trust their wives had in them. I personally choose not to entrust my life to man, as it's too great a risk.
BOYS will never admit it. But once the boy grows into what a real man is he has no choice but to admit it and also hold all of his male friends accountable as well. That’s where we break this cycle. Accountability among all males.
Tim Ross was amazing in this interview. He demonstrated the love and compassion of Jesus Christ the ENTIRE TIME. And still pointed everything back to Jesus while ministering to Princella.
That was so beautiful to see
Where was this compassion from Jesus as indigenous men and black men failed to protect their women and children. Y’all tripping as if history doesn’t show y’all Jesus likes colonizer more by proof they invoked him and was handed the world on a platter. Either Jesus is not real or blakc and indigenous men are just failures at protecting anything
Thank you Princella for articulating things that many of us have felt for years but unable to articulate. She is spot on!!!!!
Please seek therapy
@@cris46531 Lol. Agreed.
What she is saying sound like a delusion. She saying that the people are brainwashed essentially but sound like she trying to do the same.
Thank you because that's what I'm getting from her. Plus if she's dating women why is she in a man role. I'm not understanding. She is in a man role because she's a lesbian. I'm not getting it.
The first step people miss or get misconstrued is, she NEVER said we can’t coexist or partner up with each other. She is saying once the men govern themselves, the men will be their best selves to THEN be able to have a healthy community. Women should NOT try to save them
I sure we hear that part and in a lot of ways support it. Where you get lost is the no marriage, never live together, only co partner and if the female has a boy at the age of 6 or 7 give you child to the man. That's a tough pill to swallow.
@@TamikaMichelle Again, take your own bias out of it and think bigger picture. What points is she making that we don’t already perpetuate??? Aren’t we preaching to take marriage very serious, then there are men and women stepping outside of their union already practicing the polygamy. Let’s just cut the middle man (marriage). You have an idea of equal partnership in the home, is that true for the MAJORITY of people in the world or do you see it one sided? Then, aren’t we saying boys need to be with their father’s, so 0-6 or 7 he’s able to embody his mother’s qualities mainly and then formative years, mainly his father. She made it a fact to state that doesn’t mean an absentee parent, it just means boys can’t learn everything from a woman, he needs male influence majority. How many in our community are screaming that right now? Marriage can ONLY be successful with two whole people (refer to my original comment). So I would say dig a little deeper on the conclusions.
@@TamikaMichellehard pill to swallow but needs to be done. Male children should be with their fathers as long as they are not toxic to them. Women can not raise sons alone.
@@erinoshun9331. If only their fathers will take them.. if only.. if only… 😅😴
@gailainsley6939 exactly bc the comment said, "give your male child to the man." No, that his child too.
“Males won’t agree with me because the truth doesn’t support their existence. My message is for women” - The Queenmaker🔥🔥
But you're telling women they don't need men at all. They can have his baby but he can go. These are the single mothers that we have in society today that are raising male babies to be grown males; potentially the type that hurt you and don't know how to treat women because they don't have a male figure, end up prison or dead early in life. Your goal is to change for a functional society. How is this change? You also stated you have a course on love then you stated you have never loved nor feel emotions. How are you teaching something where you are not an expert? This ideology is rooted in hate for men due to unhealed past experiences and causes confusion for people looking for love.
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@@Mr1MusicloverMen need to focus on solutions with other men instead of the surface level discussions that you all have with each other. Why are men not putting more effort into being better humans? Even if you don’t agree with Princella solution to issue there are a lot of women trying to figure out why there is no accountability amongst men. 1 of 4 women SA’d and I scrolled through comment section on last video about DV and crickets from the men. Even Tysean and Ryan made it seem like Princella only one with these horrible experiences from men when the comment section of that video tells different story. Until men can lead themselves and govern men around them there shouldn’t be any pushback about her message cause majority of men don’t need to be in relationship anyway.
@quietstorm46 @quietstorm46 why focus on other men for discussions, when, in many cases its women dating and picking the type of man they choose to get involved with and have a child with? That's not a conversation I need to have with a man. I can hold myself accountable and can't speak for all men. I don't prefer to generalize and that's what was happening in this panel discussion. Her issue was with ALL men and it was very disturbing. All people, Men and women need to hold themselves accountable for their choices made and make attempts to be better human beings. It's all people, not just men not just women or even certain races; ALL. and I am not advocating SA or any type of abuse. As she stated, doing the same thing is insanity. If a certain situation keeps occurring in your life, from all different individuals, at various times of your life, more than just those individuals and situations need to be investigated and not just lump ALL men as the enemy.
As true as the sun rises in the east. Love it!
The hosts weren’t ready for this topic.
I’m so glad I came back to watch this episode. It seems like it keeps coming up in more current conversations… so glad I watched…
People dismissed everything that Princella said about men and the world, because she shared her past traumas. Her message is for women who no longer want to be delusional about men and the world around us. If you want to be delusional, then of course that comes with denial. Also, don't dismiss her intelligence as just "brokenness". That's pretty messed up. She brings stats, psychology, biology, and philosophy into her theories and what she says is based on her intelligence and not brokenness. I hate when people do this to women. "You're speaking out of hurt" as a way to dismiss them. NO. She's not broken, she's brilliant!
Exactly. Males responses is why I deal with them with a 10 ft pole between us
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Absolutely brilliant!🙌🏾 I salute 🫡 her!🗣️
This taught me patience and the importance of listening for curiosity and not just for rebuttals.
Amen
So true. That is a lost art in communication these days
Yes!!❤
The hosts are literally proving her point that men so not learn through sitting down and comprehension.
Exactly, listening to react not to understand
Right
This is a clear example of how far a hurt woman can go... n we as men have to own accountability to this... she's just a product of severe hurt pain and disappointment
Facts bro
Facts.
Thanks so much Tim for acknowledging her pain that she went through instead of just dismissing it! That was powerful in itself.
Yeah, Ryan basically told her to "shut up, don't nobody wanna hear about how badly you've been treated by males." How does any woman listen to this guy?
But then he turned right back to how Jesus is the example that defies her points…. I don’t think that was done truly in altruism
2:31:12 cringe
@@CuriosityKilldBoredmit showed empathy and respect. You don’t have to agree with everything someone says. It was made very clear that the foundation of their ideals come from a completely different place.
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Man listen....2 hours in and I can say HANDS DOWN this is the best full circle conversation anybody has had with Princella. Pastor Ross is patient and that makes all the difference.
As a listener this takes a lot of patience and if something rubs you wrong, it's ok...don't click off....because so much of this is pin point accurate and necessary to reset a lot of mens' outlook.
Really, over 1 hour in. I could not understand much of what that lady was explaining ... And i am a woman. For the part i understood, she was much talking of a place of hurt. I could not agree with her opinions on men and women.
She lost me when she said that women do not need men.
That is misleading.
@@freshdesign2026 Try and actively listen to the whole podcast. It was enlightening and all parties were wonderfully polite and considerate. Princella does have some poignant insights we all can learn from. In a lot of ways, she is the voice of millions of suffering women. I really encourage you to listen. I know 3 hrs is long! I did chores while listening.
I really appreciate your willingness to Really listen. We are in critical times!
This is how Kings in Africa has lived for years, women and children lived alone
@@walterjohnson7455yep. It’s how all black people lived before colonialism. She has studied it. It’s in the books
This was such a good episode, so enlightening! 🎯🎯🎯
God job pastor Tim! Your Epiphany is spot on!
Princella was 🔥 ❤
There is nothing dangerous about Princella's message that inspires women to love themselves, for women to invest in themselves, and to understand the true nature and inabilities *deficits of a man! Princella is a patient, and empathetic to women and men issues!! Keep educating Princella, you are going global!❤❤❤❤❤
It's only dangerous to men who want to mistreat women and continue doing so. A man who wants to be different can move against whatever acts would cause him to be dispensable. For a good man this would be a heads up regarding what to lead on.
@@superodalisque Absolutely ❤️
Exactly what I was thinking.
Princella's message is more on the feminist movement, rebellion, etc.
@@mrwendell2343 exactly and I’m a woman and can tell say she’s a damn feminist. 🤦🏾♀️
I usually find the hardly initiated podcasters to be great host! HOWEVER i could barely get through the interview because the host were obviously offended and emotionally triggered and it made them defensive & RUDE! My hat goes out to Priscilla & pastor Tim Ross for their emotional maturity and dialogue throughout the interview!!!
I agree it was super cringey
Also, I thought Tysean and Ryan were terrible host.
The host were taken back because it wasn’t a debate. It was an actual conversation with opposing views.
@@shondreajackson9183 that part!
Those clowns thought they were going to trip Princella up 😂😂😂 They kept saying,
"Let Tim talk" all a while, Tim was not on that energy because Princella was on point with everything she said, you can't argue with truth and facts.
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Abstaining from men doesn’t automatically mean forming romantic ties with women. Just thought I’d put that out there. People don’t just ‘turn’ gay.
This was a very informative that I got to hear the guests and their thoughts.
People ask her experience to place judgment and to dismiss her message. Then to be gaslighting her is disgusting.
Right ..I wish she would stop giving them coupons to discount her message. But she decides how best to do what she's doing.
Sometimes, people ask questions because they need context. You should want to know how a person arrives at any conclusion. It helps in getting a good understanding. A good understanding gives you space to have sympathy and empathy!
I hope the creators of this show rewatch this themselves and see how many times they missed the answer to their questions. And trying to gaslight her by cutting her off and asking her to basically “cut to the chase” was in fact the most annoying thing to watch happen, over and over and over.
I'm glad this is being said... as it happens often.
Yeah they dropped the ball on this kne
You are so right. Like Tim had to translate lol. There were only truly 2 intelligent people here and them 2 stooges weren't it
@kaijai006 facts
Yes, I sense the hatred and impatience pouring out of them. But she conducted herself with elegance. ❤
I needed to hear this message ❤ Keep elevating ❤
I came back to finish the remaining of this podcast. I loved and do appreciate when Pastor Tim opened up and showed a softer side of himself which most times some of us women don’t get to see when he broke down and cried it really opened doors and connected to my soul. I applaud him for stepping up as a man an apologizing for what harm those other men did to that young woman. Thank you 🙏🏾 Pastor Tim That was brave of you. Overall great podcast
I see something totally different. It’s OK to be compassionate but I think it was pandering. If you notice, after he sat there crying, she poured more into it. That woman is hurt and she has vendetta. We can’t feel sorry for a person who is intentionally trying to destroy our women.
@devancoleman3117 you just can't accept that a man empathize with a woman on a human level. You're cold most likely. The type of man she warns about.
The way she expressed herself was in a true feminine manner, like a MOTHER 🌍
The way the Host kept proving her point about Men needing leadership. Some people don’t want change cause it works in their best interest.
Exactly girl 🎉
Works w/ white privilege too😤
It's their show... not hers. She flopped her mouth during most of the video. Yall hyenas so damn divisive
I find this comment ironic, when it's her that needs male platforms to push her message.
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This queen is opening the book of knowledge and she’s holding her position.. she’s saying everything in a very organic way.. no sugarcoating here.. let him who have ears to hear.. please hear with the mindset that she maybe on to something.. she’s freeing people men and women! This is revolutionary!!!
She is literally speaking so intricately in DEPTH about the fall of man, creation, and WORLDY mindsets! PURE SUBSTANCE! That is a problem in our community. Rejecting what we don't understand! HE WHO HAS AN EAR! This is straight GOLD. PEARLS! 🥴 The fact that we call ourselves believers and reject so much truth is frightening. Finding it difficult to accept any revelation in what she's saying is probably something you should search your own soul about.
THIS!
Why do y'all think these men are unaliving women for wanting a divorce? BECAUSE THEY GOTTA HAVE CONTROL!!
Because most women aren't truly capable of hurting men.
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Actually it’s because men know she and the government will take all their money and resources and men not going for it
That’s very rare
Like there aren't woman serial unalivers that marry men for the wealth then get them gone it's rare its not the Norm
I love that Tim listens intently and ask questions. More inquisitive than argumentative 🙏🏾
I think her message is hard to swallow because men are just hearing their faults. I believe that the man is the head and if he would lead as Christ in the church, then all things will fall in place.
This has been a very great and interesting conversation. I 1000% believe in the word of God and that marriage is a beautiful sacred commitment. I enjoy convos like this because at the end of the day, God still got the glory. Also, there was a lot to learn here. Knowing and seeing different point of views of others is very important when your purpose is to invoke change. This has shown me another way that God's ppl need to be loved and shown that He (God) loves them waaaaay more than any negative experience or study that's out here. He is the way, the truth and the light.
Thank you, Pastor, for understanding her story, because most of us have gone through what the Queen has gone through!
Facts
No, most of us did not. Just too many. Plus a woman has no business going out drinking with a man especially one you hardly know.
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Boo no one is talking about drinking, we talking about the programing of what women have gone through due to unnatural orders of patriarchy that males have used against mother nature to cause chaos and distractions against women and children. You are in your denial
So rather than praising the woman who made the points. You praise the man.😮😮
Damn. This debate should have been held without the hosts. Idk how they missed the mark on this. Salute to Tim & P. Y’all opened my eyes to many things.
They missed the mark because deep down, they know that they are the very men that she was talking about.
This seems like a closeted manosphere channel...so I'm not surprised
@@teresam5199 when I tell you I was just saying this to myself…literally took the words out my mouth.
@@synthtv5976she did have to call the one guy out on liking you ger women because they're more Naive
@soundsaboutright--- That's exactly why they go for the younger, inexperienced woman.
The host remind me of some of the men I deal and have dealt with. They don’t listen to hear, they listen to defend themselves. It’s so annoying. They hate to hear what we’re saying if it means it’s going to hurt their pride or tell them they’re doing something wrong. Just listen! Sheesh!
Same, but like the Queen said, the truth doesn’t support their existence.
Most people don’t know how to listen for understanding very well. Especially when defensiveness has been triggered.
I love your response. Thank you
You just described the black modern woman to a tee!
3:18:59 yooooo this woman right here is THE TRUTH!!!! I know your poll said that more women disagree with her but I’m part of the team that says she is PREACHING THE REAL WORD! I’m obsessed over this interview! 😮💨🙏🏾✝️🕉️👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
2:32:30 The fact that Tim acknowledged Princella’s experiences verses Ryan’s statement of “we don’t want to hear about all of your past blah blah blah”, even after asking her, once again proves the points she’s made throughout the show up to this point.
Bingo
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Yup! They were VERY dismissive... and she spoke about emotional intelligence... where was it?
This. I hated the way they treated their “guest”. They were literally proving her point.
Ryan is an example of the deficiency males have that she is talking about.
Wow!! This woman is brilliant. I see all the nice comments about Pastor Tim and all he did was listen and try to understand which really shouldn't be such a huge feat. Just goes to show we expect men to listen and respond the way the hosts did, we do not expect them to respond like Pastor Tim, unfortunately. The fact that this woman is sharing and teaching this content for free! It's quite remarkable, she should be giving TED talks to people who are happy to listen and receive such elevated teachings.
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Don’t try to diminish what Tim Ross did to just listen and try to understand
@@babyslm11I agree..it was a lot of defensive energy which is why often they claimed she didn't answer the question but she did ..Like she said . Truth hurts!
Shattered women gives broken advices... a woman taking princella advices is like drinking water from a broken glass cup ur going to cut or swallow glasses
Her warped sense of reality will collapse the structure of this planet and it would bring serious destruction the likes that one can not imagine.
As a man, I LOVE THIS WOMAN, I don’t agree with a single thing she said for the simple fact, truth evokes a certain degree of fear. She has opened my mind up to consider quite a few things. She is a very intelligent woman for the simple fact she questioned that which deserved dialogue according to her experiences!
She explains it so good and the fact that they still don't understand it sometimes, is crazy to me
@@Superr-tw6rh The problem is when she speak about a woman she talks about how they been misled and not operating in their true nature. When she speaks on what's natural for a woman it's all positive.
But when she speak on men she mainly act like they are simply operating based on their nature and that the nature is someone bad which is why we should not be around each other.
So basically she saying God made a mistake and naturally created men to be negative. Make it make sense?
Tim was planting seeds throughout this whole discussion not only from what he was saying but also through his actions and genuine compassion and appreciation that he was expressing for Pricilla’s appearance on the show as well
I think there is a big lesson in grace/humility that we can all learn when interacting w/ people w/ opposing views to our own💯
YES! It takes a lot of patience to sit through a conversation like this. I loved how Pastor Tim pointed out that she’s literally speaking the same language with the same outcome, the only thing missing from her plan is Jesus.
@@Mila_C no. Her message is for women. Jesus is meant to lead men.
@@Mira-gu6we I don’t really see your point. But if you just disagree, I understand.
@@Mila_Cloved how respectful you are!
@@MahoganyGlaze Thankyou ❤️🙂
You see how the hosts gave Tim the respect to feel and get through his point without having any questions or needing any clarity or told him to hurry up and get through it and give them a simple yes or no. It shows you how differently the message hits for “180” men who understands the conditions men who have not submitted to the creators will for men. She is absolutely right and I pray that God changes these men’s hearts to see her message clearly and they submit to the creator to change their heart posture.
The only way we can change things as men is be great and be the 1% of men she’s talking about. EXACTLY, many are called few are chosen and that’s biblical.
Let’s be real here… she takes 30 mins to answer 1 question. There are two people on this panel that need to even speak their point for both sides. In order to run this show, Tim also needed more time to talk. She took long point blank period, so much so that she spoke the majority of the time #facts.
Because when asked a question. She gives a 10 minute answer… She said it herself that men are analytical, so we don’t need 20 analogies to get her point. Granted what she says makes sense.. a lot of sense. But getting to the point faster would is cool
@keturahmorris5075 exactly it was so hard to listen
@@RodneyFxy’all have short attention spans like goldfish. Many concepts take a good 10 minutes to explain or more. There are no 10 minute classes. And analogies are part of analyzing things.
I appreciated the candid exchange is this episode from the guest's perpsective to Pastor's resolve in God's truth. There are certainly lessons here and valuable context.
If Circumlocution was a person… I admire these men’s patience.
Thank you Pastor Tim for maintaining a posture of control, empathy, curiosity, and firmness. I pray this conversation open our eyes to pursue purpose and be solution minded. Love and light everyone!
I think he didn’t want to go down the angry woman route. She is wrong in so many ways, because anytime anyone goes against God word is in danger of hell , fire and brimstone
Yes, he did very well. I thought he was going to get emotional. Princella is for people who understands esoteric and the occult. He broke it down well for those who need the basics of what she tried to say 😅
Express her beliefs and facts but ARE THESE FACTS ACTUALLY TRUE? You come off as agreeing with her cus she a woman and you are a woman, could that be a true statement?
He had to, or the women in his church would leave.
@@geraldos9094 that part
Powerful Conversation. What Princella is saying exists here in Tanzania! In some communities Husbands and Wives live peaceably in separately households usually on the same compound. The women have support of other women in the community to raise the children and boys and girls are reared separately for future life roles. Funny enough this is all Biblical and the Bible's culture is African. (only 30 min in to this video)
Also... what she's talking about men being together to establish a natural pecking order is essentially a "brotherhood" or "rights of passage"
Am sorry Sarah but you can not conclude that something is working based on few villages in Tanzania when Tanzania itself has not proven to be the most thriving country. May I ask what do you mean biblical culture is African? How many countries have you visited to conclude that Africa is the blueprint for biblical customs ? How did African become acquainted with the Bible?
I am African myself and the continent is faced with so many challenges because of the same culture and customs we think are superior to other cultures. Not having both parents in the household does not serve the family certainly does not improve the children’s development.
@@lonagwegwe…before colonialism Kenyan culture, most Bantu culture was as Princella described. The wife and husband slept in different structures within a compound. The children were raised in said compound. For the record, the oldest bible with all 88 books is the Ethiopian bible. Bantu and Niger-Congo cultures are all mostly Old Testament. Look it up.
@@lonagwegwe I am not sure why you are asking her all of these questions. What did she say specifically that you are essentially disagreeing with. Let's start there.
@@AscendinSoul and is Kenya the most prosperous nation? What did that segregation do positively for the family structure?
Whew! That woman is the truth! Love Princella 👑 Thank you for allowing her to speak on your platform and the respect you showed her was beautiful.
This was great! You guys have a new follower. 🤗🤗