Had the 1010 for a long time > Good Router. Just invested in the 1400 two months ago. Wished I'd bought it sooner > BEST overall Router I've ever used!!
My first Festool router was the 1400 because it could do basically everything. What I found was that while the 1400 can be used with the LR32 kit, the 1010 is a lot more convenient to put into the LR32 base plate. It's hard not to recommend the 1400 as your first, but if you're going to do a lot of LR32 work there's a big case to be made for the 1010.
I have the 1010 and 2200. love my of 2200. I was so scared of it the first time I used it I thought it was going to kill me because of its size. 😂 It’s so controlled when it starts I can actually write with it and make signs with it. Both routers are worth every penny. Nice video Sedge.👍🏻
Had a dewalt 1/2 for many years (the one that is basically the old elu workhorse) also have had a 1010 for many years. So very very good. My workmate has the 1400 and it is everything you need. I would probably recommend it highest as it’s small enough to use one handed like the 1010 but also powerful enough for most tasks. When my old dewalt finally failed after many years I die to go for the 2200 as I managed to find one Ex display for not mush more than the 1400. I also got all the extra bits which means it’s over a £1000 … crazy money , but omg I love it. It’s the finest router on the planet and it’s mine. One last point. I really can’t believe that when Festool updated the 1010 that they didn’t add an led ring light by the collet. I use mine mostly for routing hinges with a trend jig and putting latches in. Very often lighting is poor in an unfinished new house and an led would have made me upgrade my old one. Also Festool… where the hell is the 18v version ? Pull your finger out !
I have the new 1010 and the 1400. Sold the 2200 as it was overkill for what I needed. Next purchase will be the MFK 700. Not because I need it but because I want it! BTW, I picked up a LR-32 set this weekend and used it for the first time last night. Wicked easy to use, especially if you make sure you are starting off with a balanced panel!
I have five other routers including, two PCs (one in a table), a 20yo Ryobi (also in a table), a colt, and another I shall not speak of. I bought an OF1400 about ten years ago. I thought it was too big for some work so bought an OF1010 to go with it. Both are awesome tools and the others haven'tbeenusedsince. I just wish they used the same accessories. Isn't Festool supposed to be a "system "?
Great routers all. I have the 1400 and will be buying the 1010. My wish is that Festool would design a palm router (think Bosch Colt) with visibility, light and dust collection. The MFK 700 isn’t that. It’s excellent at what it is. The power end is already there. Design a base with a hole and a light - a mini 1400-like base - and I’m in tomorrow. Not bashing or being overly critical here. I’m in with Festool on quality and dust collection of the “system.” I’ve gotten the dust extractor and attachments, worked through replacing all my sanders and all the papers. Now doing routers and I hit a brick wall on replacing my palm router. Help a fella out here, Festool! 😊
Damn you Sedge ... you started me down a rabbit hole. First was the 1400, then a ct26, but the MFT was the next logical step, so had to get a TS55 to maximize that. Damn you, now off to pickup a Domino ....
Thanks for this video. I am a hand tool woodworker primarily. I have some big projects in cherry where I need to make a lot of long dados and rebates by hand. Think fixed shelving and the grooves to accept a plywood back in a cabinet. As such, I need to make 1/4” deep by either 1/2” to 3/4” wide dados. That’s it. Which of these routers makes sense to you? I don’t know enough to know. Will go to Woodcraft eventually for some hands on evaluation. Many thanks.
I have heard mixed reviews of Festool's trim router, mainly that it does not perform like a small router but is more of a specialty tool; what are you thoughts on a good multi-purpose alternative?
no real thoughts on an alternative ...been using the Festool trim router now for over 12 years and still use it for so many applications...works great for me.......
@@clearcut6818 I had Triton and Makita routers before I got the 700 and the 1400, and for me, the Festool routers are far superior in every respect. I still like my little Makita palm router for certain applications, but what I like the most is the dust collection from both Festool routers.
@@jtlong8383 I have the Festool CT26, it's a beast. I connect it with my metabo HPT cordless trim router, which is a clone of the Makita trim router, and it sucks up 99% of the dust. So my question is, how much better is the Festool router than a regular 100-200 dollar router? How does a Festool router justify its price?
Currently have my 1010 setup for door hinges, 1400 setup for the LR32 system, but also switch it over to run on my festool router table, but thinking of cheating and getting the new 2200 as my dedicated router table router. Holding out on the trim router hoping festool will make a cordless version of it soon.
I messed up, recently bought the 2200 and accessories kit when I should have gotten the 1400 instead. Too much of a router for my daily work, going to make the routing aid myself out of 12mm plexiglass and see if I can’t get some more use out of the router.
Don’t forget 3/8” collets, typically used for 3/8” solid carbide bits. Oh BTW, I have 6 Festool routers. I frequently use dovetail jigs. Having 2 routers to eliminate bit changing and calibration when routing a dresser’s worth of drawers is simply awesome. I have two OF-1010’s and two OF-1400’s. This is the one case I wish the OF-1010 accepted 1/2” bits. Many dovetail router bits are only available with 1/2” shanks. The OF-1010 has plenty of power for dovetail routing but lacks the 1/2” collets. I was very patient and found used routers for #5 & #6. In the interest of full disclosure, I’m a bona fide router junkie. In addition to the 6 Festool routers I also have 7 Porter Cable and 3 Hitachi routers, most being permanently installed in various router tables. I consider routers to be THE most versatile power tool in the shop! I’ve used only Festool routers for handheld routing since 2010.
I think that’s somewhat subjective but for edge banding, it was certainly built with that in mind. Also dust collection is horrible on most trim routers.
Hello from Dayton! The OF 1010(the new one) is my first router from Festool and it's great. I use the 1010 with my LR 32 and love it. I am considering the MK700. Would you mind providing some other uses (your personal favorites) for the MFK 700 beyond edge banding? As always... thanks for the videos. I've learned much so far.
Great to hear! I use it for grooving for backs on cabinets and also for doors .... th-cam.com/video/IeFR72lKLlg/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/9Ovz8oYjbgs/w-d-xo.html
Hey Sedge, I've got my OF 1400 with the table widener (makes a world of a difference!), but I find it a bit unwieldy for narrower pieces. If I'm looking to do smaller edge profiling bits (5/8 chamfer bits, 1/4-1/2 roundover bit), would you recommend the MFK or 1010 router?
Hey sedge, I am ready for an LR 32 system to be added to the arsenal. I was thinking the 1010 would be great to pair with it. I have a large Milwaukee in my router table, and I use an old interchangeable base porter cable by hand. After watching this I’m thinking maybe the 1400 is what I should buy as my collection of bits is much stronger on the 1/2” side, and if/when the PC dies I’d go with a trim router. Do you have an opinion on the 1400 with the LR32?
Sedge, I have a question.. will the of 2200 mount in the SawStop router table , or would I have to get the of 1400 for that..? Thank you for your time and have a wonderful Sunday and Fourth of July….
I always recommend local dealers off the beaten path ... they may have some in stock... you can find them by typing in your zip code at the festoolusa.com website in the dealer area
Can someone explain how they (I am referring here to all of the manufacturers that are selling 3+ HP routers in the USA) are doing so with a 120V 15A power cord that literally can't supply 2200 watts? I am just now in the market, and was trying to find specs on exactly what the cord is being used on a couple of these since a standard US outlet is incapable of supplying that much juice, assuming it must be a 240V or a 20A cord. Nope 120/15A. So these manufacturers are able to defy the basic laws of physics now?
This fit me perfectly. Bought my 2200 yesterday solely based on “it’s the Mack daddy one 🤷♂️” happy I did after watching this lol
Lol...Happy routing!
Had the 1010 for a long time > Good Router. Just invested in the 1400 two months ago. Wished I'd bought it sooner > BEST overall Router I've ever used!!
I love my OF1400 !!!
My first Festool router was the 1400 because it could do basically everything. What I found was that while the 1400 can be used with the LR32 kit, the 1010 is a lot more convenient to put into the LR32 base plate. It's hard not to recommend the 1400 as your first, but if you're going to do a lot of LR32 work there's a big case to be made for the 1010.
OK
I have the 1010 and 2200. love my of 2200. I was so scared of it the first time I used it I thought it was going to kill me because of its size. 😂 It’s so controlled when it starts I can actually write with it and make signs with it. Both routers are worth every penny. Nice video Sedge.👍🏻
I love the OF2200...sooooooooo smooth !!!
Had a dewalt 1/2 for many years (the one that is basically the old elu workhorse) also have had a 1010 for many years. So very very good. My workmate has the 1400 and it is everything you need. I would probably recommend it highest as it’s small enough to use one handed like the 1010 but also powerful enough for most tasks. When my old dewalt finally failed after many years I die to go for the 2200 as I managed to find one Ex display for not mush more than the 1400. I also got all the extra bits which means it’s over a £1000 … crazy money , but omg I love it. It’s the finest router on the planet and it’s mine. One last point. I really can’t believe that when Festool updated the 1010 that they didn’t add an led ring light by the collet.
I use mine mostly for routing hinges with a trend jig and putting latches in. Very often lighting is poor in an unfinished new house and an led would have made me upgrade my old one. Also Festool… where the hell is the 18v version ? Pull your finger out !
Thanks for sharing...GREAT points
Great explanation. Still dreaming of getting a OF1400.
OF1400 for the win !!!
I have the new 1010 and the 1400. Sold the 2200 as it was overkill for what I needed. Next purchase will be the MFK 700. Not because I need it but because I want it! BTW, I picked up a LR-32 set this weekend and used it for the first time last night. Wicked easy to use, especially if you make sure you are starting off with a balanced panel!
Right on!
I have Porter Cable, DeWalt, and Milwaukee routers but I love my OF 1400!
OF1400 is AWESOME !!!
It took me 6 months to get my MFK 700 now I am waiting for the 1400 router
I have five other routers including, two PCs (one in a table), a 20yo Ryobi (also in a table), a colt, and another I shall not speak of. I bought an OF1400 about ten years ago. I thought it was too big for some work so bought an OF1010 to go with it. Both are awesome tools and the others haven'tbeenusedsince.
I just wish they used the same accessories. Isn't Festool supposed to be a "system "?
Great routers all. I have the 1400 and will be buying the 1010. My wish is that Festool would design a palm router (think Bosch Colt) with visibility, light and dust collection. The MFK 700 isn’t that. It’s excellent at what it is. The power end is already there. Design a base with a hole and a light - a mini 1400-like base - and I’m in tomorrow. Not bashing or being overly critical here. I’m in with Festool on quality and dust collection of the “system.” I’ve gotten the dust extractor and attachments, worked through replacing all my sanders and all the papers. Now doing routers and I hit a brick wall on replacing my palm router. Help a fella out here, Festool! 😊
I have heard of that need before..I will let Festool know ....
This was very instructive thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
We agree on that, one for sure, thanks
Thanks for watching!
Damn you Sedge ... you started me down a rabbit hole. First was the 1400, then a ct26, but the MFT was the next logical step, so had to get a TS55 to maximize that. Damn you, now off to pickup a Domino ....
hey Rob ...thanks for watching.....sorry about the rabbit hole.... welcome !!!!!
Thanks for this video. I am a hand tool woodworker primarily. I have some big projects in cherry where I need to make a lot of long dados and rebates by hand. Think fixed shelving and the grooves to accept a plywood back in a cabinet. As such, I need to make 1/4” deep by either 1/2” to 3/4” wide dados. That’s it. Which of these routers makes sense to you? I don’t know enough to know. Will go to Woodcraft eventually for some hands on evaluation. Many thanks.
OF 1400
@@sedgetool THANKS
I have heard mixed reviews of Festool's trim router, mainly that it does not perform like a small router but is more of a specialty tool; what are you thoughts on a good multi-purpose alternative?
no real thoughts on an alternative ...been using the Festool trim router now for over 12 years and still use it for so many applications...works great for me.......
I have MFK 700 and OF 1400 routers I can say they are the best in market 💚
🤙 Right On !!!
But are they 10 times better?
@@clearcut6818 I had Triton and Makita routers before I got the 700 and the 1400, and for me, the Festool routers are far superior in every respect. I still like my little Makita palm router for certain applications, but what I like the most is the dust collection from both Festool routers.
@@jtlong8383 I have the Festool CT26, it's a beast. I connect it with my metabo HPT cordless trim router, which is a clone of the Makita trim router, and it sucks up 99% of the dust. So my question is, how much better is the Festool router than a regular 100-200 dollar router? How does a Festool router justify its price?
Currently have my 1010 setup for door hinges, 1400 setup for the LR32 system, but also switch it over to run on my festool router table, but thinking of cheating and getting the new 2200 as my dedicated router table router. Holding out on the trim router hoping festool will make a cordless version of it soon.
Sounds like you got it all figured out Oren !!! Wicked COOL !!!
When do we get the MFK on the 18V platform? That would be awesome
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I messed up, recently bought the 2200 and accessories kit when I should have gotten the 1400 instead. Too much of a router for my daily work, going to make the routing aid myself out of 12mm plexiglass and see if I can’t get some more use out of the router.
Thanks for sharing... I have heard this before ...
@@sedgetool it’s still an amazing router
Don’t forget 3/8” collets, typically used for 3/8” solid carbide bits. Oh BTW, I have 6 Festool routers. I frequently use dovetail jigs. Having 2 routers to eliminate bit changing and calibration when routing a dresser’s worth of drawers is simply awesome. I have two OF-1010’s and two OF-1400’s. This is the one case I wish the OF-1010 accepted 1/2” bits. Many dovetail router bits are only available with 1/2” shanks. The OF-1010 has plenty of power for dovetail routing but lacks the 1/2” collets. I was very patient and found used routers for #5 & #6. In the interest of full disclosure, I’m a bona fide router junkie. In addition to the 6 Festool routers I also have 7 Porter Cable and 3 Hitachi routers, most being permanently installed in various router tables. I consider routers to be THE most versatile power tool in the shop! I’ve used only Festool routers for handheld routing since 2010.
cool .... you can never have enough routers...
Which router would you guys recommend for cutting in birch plywood 45 mm with both sides HPL 0.7 mm
Routing dados and grooves / OF1400
Cutting through holes / OF2200
Sedge, what do I need to hook up dust extraction to OF1010 at router base?
Thanks.
If it is the older OF1010 then just squeeze the hos and it should fit well ...
Is the trim router significantly better than ordinary trim routers?
I think that’s somewhat subjective but for edge banding, it was certainly built with that in mind. Also dust collection is horrible on most trim routers.
The micro adjust for depth is much nicer ...
Hello from Dayton! The OF 1010(the new one) is my first router from Festool and it's great. I use the 1010 with my LR 32 and love it. I am considering the MK700. Would you mind providing some other uses (your personal favorites) for the MFK 700 beyond edge banding? As always... thanks for the videos. I've learned much so far.
Great to hear! I use it for grooving for backs on cabinets and also for doors ....
th-cam.com/video/IeFR72lKLlg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/9Ovz8oYjbgs/w-d-xo.html
Hey Sedge, I've got my OF 1400 with the table widener (makes a world of a difference!), but I find it a bit unwieldy for narrower pieces. If I'm looking to do smaller edge profiling bits (5/8 chamfer bits, 1/4-1/2 roundover bit), would you recommend the MFK or 1010 router?
MFK700
Hey sedge, I am ready for an LR 32 system to be added to the arsenal. I was thinking the 1010 would be great to pair with it. I have a large Milwaukee in my router table, and I use an old interchangeable base porter cable by hand. After watching this I’m thinking maybe the 1400 is what I should buy as my collection of bits is much stronger on the 1/2” side, and if/when the PC dies I’d go with a trim router. Do you have an opinion on the 1400 with the LR32?
I use the OF1400 with the Lr32 all the time now …. Less plate slippage !!!
I've been trying to get my hands on an OF 1400 for months. Hopefully, we will see some stock in the US at some point.
Some online dealers have them in stock ......
@@sedgetool I've been looking! Gonna go back down the rabbit hole to see if I can find any dealers with them in stock.
Sedge, I have a question.. will the of 2200 mount in the SawStop router table , or would I have to get the of 1400 for that..? Thank you for your time and have a wonderful Sunday and Fourth of July….
I have never seen the set up for the SawStop router table so I do not know...sorry ...Have a GREAT 4th of July !!!
I know Jessem makes a lift that will accommodate the Festool routers
Yeah I need the 2200.
cool
Grest comparison. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Can't even find the OF1400
I always recommend local dealers off the beaten path ... they may have some in stock... you can find them by typing in your zip code at the festoolusa.com website in the dealer area
i love my makita router
Good For You !!!!!
So Sedgey, you say'n that the stats don't matter, that 'it depends' on what I'm do'n? Get out! nya, nya, nya, woob woob woob...🤣🤣🤣🤣
application = router ....nyuk nyuk
Can someone explain how they (I am referring here to all of the manufacturers that are selling 3+ HP routers in the USA) are doing so with a 120V 15A power cord that literally can't supply 2200 watts? I am just now in the market, and was trying to find specs on exactly what the cord is being used on a couple of these since a standard US outlet is incapable of supplying that much juice, assuming it must be a 240V or a 20A cord. Nope 120/15A.
So these manufacturers are able to defy the basic laws of physics now?
I think they call that marketing.....
You know what router I can get ????none of them ‘cause they’re not in stock
There is plenty in stock at dealers around the US ...just make a few calls....Try some of the on line dealers !!!
I have been nothing is in stock. All pre order the 1400 and 1010 and 2200.
Ok the math doesn’t work. 2200/746=2.94
ok....
Would you cut kitchen work tops with the 1400, or go up to the bigger router.
I would jump ip to the OF2200