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Splinter: I will avenge my master, Hamato Yoshi! Prepare to die Shredder! Also Splinter: We're totally BFF's now Saki wanna get wasted like the writers of this show?
But seriously, since this was The Return of The Shredder, he should have been seen at least once in the suit, right? Hell, imagine if instead of just seeing him laugh we see him putting it back on, at least the helmet. This isn't The Return of the Shredder, this is How Saki Got His Groove Back.
They should’ve had Shredder get amnesia from Venus, then show up as a bum who either befriends Splinter or who splinter runs into doing some good things, that way there could be a debate on whether or not they should treat Oroku Saki and this new identity the same or not. Maybe he has a pet who loves him like Splinter did Yoshi who becomes his mutant henchmen after he turns bad again. There could even be an even split of who wants to end him (Raph for clear reasons and Donny who thinks it’s the smart thing to do before the memories return) who doesn’t (Leo because that wouldn’t be honourable and Mikey believes in people like the heart of the team he should be) and who’s Unsure. (Splinter morality vs what happens if Splinter remembers and he could’ve stopped it while Venus could be dealing with the consequences of mind wiping. Maybe someone offhandedly blames her for the situation, so she vows never to do it again, hence why we never see it again.
See the problem there is that would be good writing with a genuinely complex issue that doesn't have an easy answer. We all know this show wanted no part of anything like that and actively defied any elements that could've improved it
Also, I would've thought that with the Foot clan, that whilst it certaihly would've been rather crippled, with them losing Shredder, that I can imagine there being members of the clan trying to regroup and rebuild slowly, supposedly over the course of the series, with someone else pretty much taking the helm. That certainly would've been interesting. Especially when, depending on the leadership, it could always leave the Shredder in an awkward position, if he did regain his memory, considering his organization would've been hijacked by another guy, whilst he was out of commission.
@@zeroattentiongaming820 Yeah, a lot of us forget that this show does not like to do stories with complex issues and alike. I do get why though... In terms of people expecting this show or its writers to stop constantly messing around and get serious at times.
Out of all the episodes, why is THIS the one being taken down? Is there a angry fanboy who loved this episode and got offended and reported it so it would be takened down or something?
Shredder: “haha spar with me old frenemy!” Splitter: “we have fought hundreds of times and it’s always seemed like a draw!” Shredder: “perhaps deep down I’ve always had a respect for you and your students.” Splinter: “yeah but now that we have some kind of common ground, now Seems like the perfect time to mention a MacGuffin and accuse you of murdering my master and stealing it!” Shredder: “wait..did I do that? I’m genuinely asking because we’ve never mentioned this plot line before..” Splinter: “I hate you. I should’ve never helped you, even though I will again later, any chance of us being uneasy allies forged out of respect is immediately gone and it wasn’t even reached organically.” Shredder: “ok bye, I’ll go laugh somewhere for no reason and then turn evil again at the end of the episode, character development is lame.” There. I basically short handed the entire episode.
Splinter: "Join me in the way of The Green." Leonardo: "What's the way of The Green? Don't tell some kind of weird hippy thing!" Splinter: "No, I am actually a notary for The Parliament of Trees. Swamp Thing is a friend of mine."
I like how there's a germ of a good idea in this episode but Next Mutation did it's best to kill it before it could be anything good. I like the idea of Shredder after having fallen so low, is forced to team up with the turtles to take on a common threat and the twist could be maybe this humbling makes him truly want to change his ways but because he's regarded with suspicion and fear by the turtles that eventually the alliance breaks down and Shredder goes back to his villainous ways and becomes a third faction with the Foot Clan making it's return.
@@alijahaskew4644 Unfortunately not, at least not as deep as this. Shredder and the Foot's main mutants team up with Splinter and April to take down the Triceratons in the Season 3 finale, but Shredder kills Splinter and forsakes the entire planet simply just so he could win.
That's basically Next Mutation in a nut shell. They get tiny bits of ideas for episodes that are interesting, then go out of their way to ruin said idea.
Also, I would've thought that with the Foot clan, that whilst it certainly would've been rather crippled, with them losing Shredder, that I can imagine there being members of the clan trying to regroup and rebuild slowly, supposedly over the course of the series, with someone else pretty much taking the helm. That certainly would've been interesting. Especially when, depending on the leadership, it could always leave the Shredder in an awkward position, if he did regain his memory, considering his organization would've been hijacked by another guy, whilst he was out of commission.
I think if the show was, well, competent, Venus could have a really interesting dynamic with Shredder. She doesn’t have a history of fighting him like the other turtles, so I could see her being more sympathetic to him. Perhaps they form a pseudo friendship of feeling like they are in a world they don’t belong in (Venus in New York and Shredder without the foot clan to command) I could even see a compelling side-swap story with Venus joining the foot clan, since she doesn’t get along with the turtles anyway
That would be interesting to see Venus start forming an pseduo-friendship with the Shredder since she does not have a history with him and could possibly ending up joining the Foot Clan which would make an interesting story arc had the series not be so awful in many ways.
You know, between Shredder and Splinter, I wonder what's with sanitation work: Splinter makes Saki cleans the sewer here, and on the '87 cartoon episode where they body swap, Saki turns the turtles into house maids 🤔
Geez, the fact they're being so relentless on THIS episode of all things. We appreciate your diligence, Phelan, no matter how much I still enjoy this stupid ass show I have enjoyed every episode of this immensely and can't wait for the finale and Power Rangers crossover, this has been a sheer joy of a roast.
@@johndoejjdujd Or the creators of The Next Mutation They must have gotten butthurt that Phelous trashed their magnum opus (citation needed) and this episode in particular was (somehow) their favourite
The message I get on those older uploads says "This video has been removed by the uploader". I think Phelous removed it himself due to it being demonetised.
Why the hell does this keep getting taken down? I'd say it was the copyright holders being malicious, but then I'd expect them to take down the others as well. Maybe the UK censors found it and tried to censor Phelous too.
It's ALMOST like the entire DMCA system was never designed to be run by bots, but put no limitations in place to prevent it being abused as such, making the whole system complete bullshit for the users and creators, benefiting ONLY the copyright holders! But that'd just be crazy.
Does anyone remember back in Going Ape when Lulu Calliope said that the bar couldn't go any lower? Well the bar is near the center of the Earth at this point!
I know this is Shredder we're talking about, but damn the turtles were sociopathic towards him. Then we pile on the stupidity of bringing Shredder, their arch enemy, the man who would stop at nothing to brutally murder all of them, to their lair. Of course they don't expect his sudden but inevitable betrayal as a serious possibility because no one on this show is capable of coherent thought or foresight.
Hey Venus was capable of coherent thought on a rare occasion, she just got drowned out by the sheer stupidity of the other 4 so often it rotted what little brain she had by this point
@@zeroattentiongaming820 True., no one is safe and there's no one strong enough to resist the next mutation turtles' stupidity aura. Even exposure for a short time can rapidly kill brain cells. It's like their super power or something or if you'll forgive the pun their "stupor power."
It's bizarre how out of all the episodes, THIS is the one that keeps getting taken down. Then again, the fact that anyone, even copyright holders, care enough about this show to want to take down these reviews in the first place is surprising enough.
🇺🇸 Jon: Garfield you are a bum! Garfield: Yes, I know. Now change my kitty litter. 🇬🇧 Jon: Garfield you are a "bad cat!" Garfield: Yes, I know. Now change my "box".
Shredder: “wait wait wait wait! That thing was magic!?!” Splinter: “you didn’t know?” Shredder: “hell no, I took that thing just to be a dick, all this time it could’ve helped me!?!”
Why do I get the feeling the Next Mutation Shredder is behind this? It seems like he didn't want ANYONE to see how humiliated he was in this show so he decided to report this so he could get it down.
Personally, it's Dragon Lord. I mean, sure Oroku would be ashamed by this but at the same time, this whole series is shameful to his legacy given how the turtles are a constant pain in his ass. If anything, the Rank would try to get rid of this given how this is the last real end of their run despite the final episode.
Shredder did some cool things this episode: Stopped being a bum, accepted tea from Splinter and fought against the dragons. UK edit: Shredder did some cool things this episode: Accepted tea from Splinter and fought against the dragons.
I love the "🎵the Shredder-- is-- 🎵pathetic!" edit you did here. It would've been great if it could be used as often as "I hate Splinter" and "Michelangelo is braindead"... but that'd require him to be in the show more often.
If phelous ever does a full review of the 87 cartoon (or at least the questionable episodes), I can see it being used often there. Since there's lots of instances of shredder being pathetic.
I'm always happy to watch a reupload and do my part to attempt to repair the like count, but I'm especially glad to rewatch this episode. This really is a dreadful incarnation of Shredder, but your mockery makes it all worthwhile! Keep up the amazing work. 🖤
Going with the mirage comics orgin of shredder killing himato yoshi after yoshi killed his brother orku nagi. Might be a decent reason for splinter felling sympathy for shredder.
Maybe for slightly better story to the show would've been if Shredder was the one to release The Dragon Lord and his cronies out and gets betrayed by them and make temporary alliance with the turtles
@@FireRising86 Probably to avoid possible trigger warnings at the time but they somehow lost the original master copies so we were stuck with Post-9/11 airings even though this show should've been off the air completely since 1998.
Imma say this here too but I'm surprised that this show knows what a Shuriken even looks like. You'd think they'd grab a stick paint it gold and call it the Golden Shuriken
Much like with the vampires and Bonesteel, there was some potential here if Shredder was still a threat to see him take on Dragon Lord and his dragons as a means of securing his territory from a rival faction or even seeing him join forces with Dragon Lord to get revenge on the turtles...but as always this show can only be a disappointment.
Christmas is coming. There is an adaptation of A Christmas Carol done by Good Times. It’s what you’d expect. You gotta make it happen this year, Phelous!
14:54 That scene is bad enough in the show, but just imagine being someone who trained in martial Arts for years to be a stunt actor in Hollywood. You keep putting out your credentials in hopes of getting your dream job but don't hear back from anyone. Then one day, you get a call from these showrunners saying they want to hire you and it's for a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles project! That'd look great in your resume! You take the job and all excited for it, sure the costumes don't look great, but whatever work is work and this will surely help your career. Then one day for shooting, the director tells you and the rest of the stunt actors that they're going to wrap white sheets around your crotch and tell you all to act like babies. I can't imagine the humiliation those poor actors must have felt. If I was one of them I'd probably never take my mask off just so the director couldn't see my looks of disgust and anger at everything.
This series did worse by Shredder than the first 2 movies. Keep in mind in the first one he fell off a building into a garbage truck which then Casey started the crusher. The second one had an entire wooden boardwalk fall on top of him. Minor detail but how are Shredder and Splinter are nostalgic over sparring when in this incarnation they only fought a few times as it follows the first 3 movies but they say they've sparred a lot
I would LOVE a TMNT universe where the Shredder became more of a frienemy by the progression of the show 'cause of a bigger villain. There's potential of a reformed Shredder and Splinter friendship
In the idw comics shredder & splinter do become friends in fact splinter helps him redeem. Himself and shredder becomes a good guy after splinter death in the comics and helps out the turtles
I love how Shredder acts as if he had no idea he was carrying a magical MacGuffin which could supposedly grant him ultimate power in his pocket this entire time until Splinter brought it up. "I just kept it because I thought it looked good on me. I had no idea it was magic! Thanks, rat! Now I shall use it to destroy you all! Muhahahaha!" Another reason to hate Splinter.
Splinter brings Hitler to the lair. Mikey: How the hell is Hitler here? And why did you bring him here? Splinter: I believe he is a changed man. Hitler: Do you have any WW2 history books? Splinter: Right over there. Hitler: I am going to borrow them? Splinter: Sure Mikey: Master, stop him. Splinter trips Mikey. Hitler goes back to his time and changes history to his vision.
Actually the ORIGINAL cartoon series KINDA already did this idea where Shredder had amnesia and the Turtles take him back to the lair. However Splinter was smart because after Leonardo rightfully pointed out the danger of letting him stay Splinter hypnotises Shredder into thinking he's Michaelangelo. He remains that way until apparently hearing his old name snaps him out of it and he still pretends to be Michaelangelo setting the Turtles up for a trap. Actually the whole episode is cool and everyone ACTUALLY acts smart; mostly. Next mutation just crapped all over this concept done 20 years ago and also made everyone an idiot.🙄
It would've been cool to see another take on that idea. Heck, Phelan's idea for this story could've been a decent scenario especially after what happen in Episode 2. Nothing wrong with rehashing ideas as long as you do something different and interesting but this? Enjoy your one season, show. You've clearly proven why Turtles Forever didn't acknowledge your existence (even if this takes place in the movie universe).
I will never understand why no one batted an eye for the first twenty-four episodes, but then this episode ended up getting raped by inexplicable claims
Clearly, someone was involved in this one episode and this one episode alone and they want all traces of that humiliation buried. Understandable, really.
I was wondering what happened to this one. Maybe it's the UK editors, desperate to cut the remainder of the episode. Maybe you can replace the video with a grappling hook!
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 Exactly!🤣 I mean theres already a lot people who have said Venus was the main reason this show failed. Yeah not the fact it has unnecessary slapstick, sexist remarks from Raph (who is my favourite turtle) and the villain in the final showdown defeated by frickin itching powder, nah it's the Ninja Turtle with boobs that broke this show's back. Lol.
Ya know, looking back at this I had a theory that the reason they wrote Shredder out may have been due to the show wanting the villains to be more cartoony and comedic rather than human like to avoid being censored too much. When you look back at it, the guys hardly ever fight and for the most part when they do it's with those COVERED dragon scouts. You know how the 80s cartoon made the Foot Soldiers robots in certain episodes to allow the guys to cut them to pieces while at the same time prevent them from getting censored by NOT killing humans? The same rule seems to apply with the dragon scouts as because we KNOW they aren't human, the turtles can kick their asses as much as they want but with Shredder, not a chance considering he's the most competent fighter in the series. They can get away with it when you put Bonesteel on screen because all his fights are comedic and goofy with all the moves usually being the guys wrapping him up in something like a 3 Stooges gag rather than real hand to hand combat. Even with Dragon Lord they didn't fight him a lot and he was supposed to be this massively powerful being that could top Shredder but they never did anything with him. Shredder was just a commodity they didn't want anything to do with because he wasn't 'exciting' compared to their new dragon villain but probably because of restrictions they couldn't utilize Dragon Lord for more than anything but sitting around and plotting stuff, also because the costume was so poorly made it may have made fighting a headache to do.
@@SanFran51More like they didn't give a damn about the Turtles since apparently some of these writers would go on to do other work which were better than their writing here but w.e.
I'll the Shredder is the worst. He keeps shredding this Next Mutation review. Thankfully, Phelous is dedicated to his craft and able to fix it so it's clear to go.
12:50 I just love Donnies pose and movements in the background as if he's praying to the script Gods for better writing and at the same time he can hear them saying "NO!"
The Turtles keep allowing the villains to cause mayhem in the streets and don't care how many people the dragons eat. When you really think about it, it's no wonder why New York in this show is a ghost town.
Speaking of TNM being a pseudo-continuation of the 90’s movies, this show was a result of a cancelled Ninja Turtles IV movie which was also called The Next Mutation!
the splinter/shredder thing looks like a fanfic by someone who ships the main character with his enemy/rival and BS's up some way for them to just get over their canon issues and get together as a couple instead.
I just realized something. What if by happenstance that this show's existence is predicted by the "Wacky Deli" episode from Rocco's Modern Life? Someone in charge of The Next Mutation in whatever department it's for hates the TMNT with a burning passion that their mission is to do whatever they can to sabotage the show, and yet, the higher exec's from Saban looked at this and said "WE LOVE IT!🤪" and that's how it was able to have a full season and a Power Rangers collab. I think I deciphered it. Rocco's Modern Life predicted the existence of Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation.
Pretty sure Next Mutation used the same set as the second Turtles move since it's more a subway than a sewer, not sure if it's just because they are all live action but I always thought Next Mutation was following the movies.
Ah hobo Shredder cause that's what we needed, then again it would be cool if they added a golden shuriken shredder. A new power up to fight the turtles & a new toy to buy.
Just thought you should know that without the episode number in the title they stop showing the next review at the top of the sidebar. Also, searching for 25 turns up the finale instead of this. I'm guessing this one is suffering in views as a result.
When you realise Shredder looks confused when Splinter first mentions it, that indicates the character was not aware of it before or the fact the he ‘stole’ it😶…………. AH probably a coincidence 😜
Wow those UK cuts are so ridiculous. They basically wrecked that entire final fight scene down to only a few minutes. Those censor guys are completely nutty. Also Bum and Mook? Seriously not that offensive!
IIRC Bum is English slang for ass in the UK and if Bonesteel got away with calling the turtles "cooters" which is also slang for "vagina", I can see the reason for that edit even though Oroku Saki is an ass while the male Turtles are giant pussies.
Out of all of the episodes in this series, this is probably the worst you've covered. I've only ever watched two episodes back when they were first on and that was a horrible mistake. As a kid I could barely tolerate them.
This episode should be clear this time and I won't have to put it up again hopefully.
The next episode and finale of Next Mutation will be up on Fri.
It ends on a freaking clip show
Oh boie 😳
Sorry you've had to deal with such a major headache over such a minor thing! DX
@@Elvusmiw Why did you have to spoil it for all the people who don't know? 😭
Fingers crossed TH-cam doesn't take this video down, because that would be ridiculous.
Splinter: I will avenge my master, Hamato Yoshi! Prepare to die Shredder!
Also Splinter: We're totally BFF's now Saki wanna get wasted like the writers of this show?
This Next Mutation's episode is so terrible even TH-cam doesn't want it on their site.
But seriously, since this was The Return of The Shredder, he should have been seen at least once in the suit, right? Hell, imagine if instead of just seeing him laugh we see him putting it back on, at least the helmet. This isn't The Return of the Shredder, this is How Saki Got His Groove Back.
What's with Saki over mouthing everything he says? It's like he's doing the Michael Winslow Police Academy gag constantly! :D
Didn’t expect you here
Hey Larry👋
You make a good point about the way he says his lines🤔
According to the wiki, the actor is different from the voice actor of shredder. So I imagine that’s why the mouthing is weird
Or pro-wrestler Edge, that guy knows his way around enunciation.
They should’ve had Shredder get amnesia from Venus, then show up as a bum who either befriends Splinter or who splinter runs into doing some good things, that way there could be a debate on whether or not they should treat Oroku Saki and this new identity the same or not. Maybe he has a pet who loves him like Splinter did Yoshi who becomes his mutant henchmen after he turns bad again. There could even be an even split of who wants to end him (Raph for clear reasons and Donny who thinks it’s the smart thing to do before the memories return) who doesn’t (Leo because that wouldn’t be honourable and Mikey believes in people like the heart of the team he should be) and who’s Unsure. (Splinter morality vs what happens if Splinter remembers and he could’ve stopped it while Venus could be dealing with the consequences of mind wiping. Maybe someone offhandedly blames her for the situation, so she vows never to do it again, hence why we never see it again.
See the problem there is that would be good writing with a genuinely complex issue that doesn't have an easy answer. We all know this show wanted no part of anything like that and actively defied any elements that could've improved it
I feel like I’ve seen this before
Also, I would've thought that with the Foot clan, that whilst it certaihly would've been rather crippled, with them losing Shredder, that I can imagine there being members of the clan trying to regroup and rebuild slowly, supposedly over the course of the series, with someone else pretty much taking the helm.
That certainly would've been interesting. Especially when, depending on the leadership, it could always leave the Shredder in an awkward position, if he did regain his memory, considering his organization would've been hijacked by another guy, whilst he was out of commission.
@@manticorephoenix it’s been done a bunch. Most recent example i have seen was glomgold on the ducktales reboot. Good ep.
@@zeroattentiongaming820 Yeah, a lot of us forget that this show does not like to do stories with complex issues and alike. I do get why though...
In terms of people expecting this show or its writers to stop constantly messing around and get serious at times.
The Shredder is taking this down. Trying to protect his image.
What image is there? Hell, even in his lowest point, he's STILL a more intimidating villain than Dragon Lord.
@@dnmstarsi His Image was kinda ruined by 2012
@@carlcarlson3396 Eh, that's very subjective compared to this.
@@dnmstarsi I mean that because I felt uncomfortable with that version of Shredder
@@carlcarlson3396 Still subjective compared to this guy.
This Shredder was so terrible, he made phelous re-edit this video.
When you make Operation Blue Line's Gridlock seems like a more threatening villain in comparison, you know how BAD this is.
4:40
Y'know, Mikey, Godzilla might be a good influence on you guys since he's proactive on the days he decides to call himself a hero.
Godzilla destroys cities and changes allegiances in every movie and he's still more effective a hero and understands basic logic.
Out of all the episodes, why is THIS the one being taken down? Is there a angry fanboy who loved this episode and got offended and reported it so it would be takened down or something?
Probably Shredder himself
lol
@@nobodyinparticular9640 *takes off sunglasses dramatically* Oh my god... You're right.
Shredder: “haha spar with me old frenemy!”
Splitter: “we have fought hundreds of times and it’s always seemed like a draw!”
Shredder: “perhaps deep down I’ve always had a respect for you and your students.”
Splinter: “yeah but now that we have some kind of common ground, now Seems like the perfect time to mention a MacGuffin and accuse you of murdering my master and stealing it!”
Shredder: “wait..did I do that? I’m genuinely asking because we’ve never mentioned this plot line before..”
Splinter: “I hate you. I should’ve never helped you, even though I will again later, any chance of us being uneasy allies forged out of respect is immediately gone and it wasn’t even reached organically.”
Shredder: “ok bye, I’ll go laugh somewhere for no reason and then turn evil again at the end of the episode, character development is lame.”
There. I basically short handed the entire episode.
"Character development is lame" must have been a common mantra in the writer's room.
''I just spared you 18 minutes without boobs.''
@@Nionivek I mean that mantra seem to linger towards Power Rangers Megaforce since character development was "too boring for little kids".
Hey Next Mutation writers, what do you think of your audience? 14:55
BABIES! THEY'RE BABIES!
Hey Ninja Turtles fans, what do you think about this show? 15:02
Splinter: "Join me in the way of The Green."
Leonardo: "What's the way of The Green? Don't tell some kind of weird hippy thing!"
Splinter: "No, I am actually a notary for The Parliament of Trees. Swamp Thing is a friend of mine."
My name is Splinter, I speak for the trees...
I hate Splinter 🎶
Swamp Thing/TMNT would be a neat crossover.
@@autobotstarscream765 🌲🌲🌲: Splinter's pathetic! 🎶
I like how there's a germ of a good idea in this episode but Next Mutation did it's best to kill it before it could be anything good.
I like the idea of Shredder after having fallen so low, is forced to team up with the turtles to take on a common threat and the twist could be maybe this humbling makes him truly want to change his ways but because he's regarded with suspicion and fear by the turtles that eventually the alliance breaks down and Shredder goes back to his villainous ways and becomes a third faction with the Foot Clan making it's return.
Didn't the 2012 iteration do this?
@@alijahaskew4644 Did they? I never saw the 2012 series, only '87 and 2003 series.
@@alijahaskew4644 Unfortunately not, at least not as deep as this. Shredder and the Foot's main mutants team up with Splinter and April to take down the Triceratons in the Season 3 finale, but Shredder kills Splinter and forsakes the entire planet simply just so he could win.
That's basically Next Mutation in a nut shell. They get tiny bits of ideas for episodes that are interesting, then go out of their way to ruin said idea.
Also, I would've thought that with the Foot clan, that whilst it certainly would've been rather crippled, with them losing Shredder, that I can imagine there being members of the clan trying to regroup and rebuild slowly, supposedly over the course of the series, with someone else pretty much taking the helm.
That certainly would've been interesting. Especially when, depending on the leadership, it could always leave the Shredder in an awkward position, if he did regain his memory, considering his organization would've been hijacked by another guy, whilst he was out of commission.
I think if the show was, well, competent, Venus could have a really interesting dynamic with Shredder. She doesn’t have a history of fighting him like the other turtles, so I could see her being more sympathetic to him. Perhaps they form a pseudo friendship of feeling like they are in a world they don’t belong in (Venus in New York and Shredder without the foot clan to command) I could even see a compelling side-swap story with Venus joining the foot clan, since she doesn’t get along with the turtles anyway
But that's a good idea.
How about Mei actually being the one who rescues Shredder and forces Splinter to ponder a moral dilemma?
@@thegloriouswizard5270 And good ideas are laughed upon on this show.
@@dnmstarsi Exactly☆ *sad*
That would be interesting to see Venus start forming an pseduo-friendship with the Shredder since she does not have a history with him and could possibly ending up joining the Foot Clan which would make an interesting story arc had the series not be so awful in many ways.
Shredder's been pretty down on his luck since Krang threw him out.
“He asked me to be a part of this show, so I kicked him out!”
"StOP mOOching OFf me SaKI!"
You know, between Shredder and Splinter, I wonder what's with sanitation work: Splinter makes Saki cleans the sewer here, and on the '87 cartoon episode where they body swap, Saki turns the turtles into house maids
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Geez, the fact they're being so relentless on THIS episode of all things. We appreciate your diligence, Phelan, no matter how much I still enjoy this stupid ass show I have enjoyed every episode of this immensely and can't wait for the finale and Power Rangers crossover, this has been a sheer joy of a roast.
"This is Stupid"
An appropriate title for how many times you've had to reupload this damn thing. Who keeps taking this review down?!
Probably the UK censors
@@johndoejjdujd probably.
@@johndoejjdujd Or the creators of The Next Mutation
They must have gotten butthurt that Phelous trashed their magnum opus (citation needed) and this episode in particular was (somehow) their favourite
The message I get on those older uploads says "This video has been removed by the uploader".
I think Phelous removed it himself due to it being demonetised.
@@johndoejjdujd if it is, I apologise for our stupidity 😅
TH-cam: _Copyright claims this video for no reason_
Phelous: You realize, of course, that this means war!
I always thought Phelous should be the next Bugs Bunny.
Phelous: That's going in the book!
@@dnmstarsi Oh Man, I was gonna say that!
Why the hell does this keep getting taken down?
I'd say it was the copyright holders being malicious, but then I'd expect them to take down the others as well.
Maybe the UK censors found it and tried to censor Phelous too.
I hope it’s not the latter😅
UK and TH-cam: I hate- PHELOUS!
TH-cam is currently run by evil bots trying to violate our rights 'cause they hate the users.
@@professormultipurpose5244 if our censors made it that all of his videos are region locked, I would cry😭
It's ALMOST like the entire DMCA system was never designed to be run by bots, but put no limitations in place to prevent it being abused as such, making the whole system complete bullshit for the users and creators, benefiting ONLY the copyright holders!
But that'd just be crazy.
Does anyone remember back in Going Ape when Lulu Calliope said that the bar couldn't go any lower? Well the bar is near the center of the Earth at this point!
Oh my gosh, I feel like a celebrity! And yeah, that sounds about right, and if the bar goes any lower, I think the planet explodes?
@@lulucalliope713 We'll have to see.
“A itchy tasty” I love ya Phelouse, never change
the saddest part isnt this episode or even this series its the fact that someone apparently love this show where this video has to be taken down TWICE
I must be Shredder himself.
Ah right 😅 it was twice I misscounted
@brandonspain12345
''I hate Phelous! I think he's the worst!'' 🎵
I know this is Shredder we're talking about, but damn the turtles were sociopathic towards him. Then we pile on the stupidity of bringing Shredder, their arch enemy, the man who would stop at nothing to brutally murder all of them, to their lair. Of course they don't expect his sudden but inevitable betrayal as a serious possibility because no one on this show is capable of coherent thought or foresight.
Hey Venus was capable of coherent thought on a rare occasion, she just got drowned out by the sheer stupidity of the other 4 so often it rotted what little brain she had by this point
@@zeroattentiongaming820 True., no one is safe and there's no one strong enough to resist the next mutation turtles' stupidity aura. Even exposure for a short time can rapidly kill brain cells. It's like their super power or something or if you'll forgive the pun their "stupor power."
"Oroku Saki was our enemy, but he was also a ninja."
So? Do ninjas have to show mutual respect toward each other, even if they are crazed maniacs?
It's bizarre how out of all the episodes, THIS is the one that keeps getting taken down.
Then again, the fact that anyone, even copyright holders, care enough about this show to want to take down these reviews in the first place is surprising enough.
I should check, but when Phelous started the review there were full cropped eps in here.
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Jon: Garfield you are a bum!
Garfield: Yes, I know. Now change my kitty litter.
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Jon: Garfield you are a "bad cat!"
Garfield: Yes, I know. Now change my "box".
So to clarify: yes we DO know what kitty litter is🤣 the censors were probably drunk
Shredder: “wait wait wait wait! That thing was magic!?!”
Splinter: “you didn’t know?”
Shredder: “hell no, I took that thing just to be a dick, all this time it could’ve helped me!?!”
2:01 🎶 The Shredder is pathetic! 🎶
14:49 Wicks face in the corner of the screen is exactly the face i had watching this.
Gold is the PERFECT material for a shuriken! Expensive and very soft!
Also very heavy.
I'm guessing it's just for housing the magic and not to be used as a weapon. But we're giving this show more thought than it deserves.
The Coming out of the Shells tour Shreeder was better than this one at least the Music Shredder got away with killing pepole
It's a good joke, but nothing is worse than Music Hating Shredder.....wait, I forgot about him roasting the kids, nevermind I'll give you the point.
ok but venus saying "i am the cute one!" is actually kind of adorable >v>
I like venus she a great character she used much better in idw comics 😊
This episode cements my suspicion that the entire show was written episode by episode by random 8 year olds.
It's so weird how many times this video has to be reuploaded.
Almost like TH-cam itself can't fathom how idiotic this episode is
Why do I get the feeling the Next Mutation Shredder is behind this? It seems like he didn't want ANYONE to see how humiliated he was in this show so he decided to report this so he could get it down.
Personally, it's Dragon Lord. I mean, sure Oroku would be ashamed by this but at the same time, this whole series is shameful to his legacy given how the turtles are a constant pain in his ass. If anything, the Rank would try to get rid of this given how this is the last real end of their run despite the final episode.
Shredder did some cool things this episode: Stopped being a bum, accepted tea from Splinter and fought against the dragons.
UK edit:
Shredder did some cool things this episode: Accepted tea from Splinter and fought against the dragons.
i want to clarify
I know what 'Bum' means in this context XD
I love the "🎵the Shredder-- is-- 🎵pathetic!" edit you did here. It would've been great if it could be used as often as "I hate Splinter" and "Michelangelo is braindead"... but that'd require him to be in the show more often.
If phelous ever does a full review of the 87 cartoon (or at least the questionable episodes), I can see it being used often there. Since there's lots of instances of shredder being pathetic.
I'm always happy to watch a reupload and do my part to attempt to repair the like count, but I'm especially glad to rewatch this episode. This really is a dreadful incarnation of Shredder, but your mockery makes it all worthwhile! Keep up the amazing work. 🖤
Going with the mirage comics orgin of shredder killing himato yoshi after yoshi killed his brother orku nagi. Might be a decent reason for splinter felling sympathy for shredder.
So Splinter has always been a rat? Huh, interesting.
@@El_Omar2203 in the mirage comic, the 90s movies, the next mutation, 2003 cartoon, and micheal bay movies he is.
I see🤔
@@rorylumley4727
Personally, I prefer the origin where Splinter was Yoshi mutated into a rat.
@@legoking6165 Same
Maybe for slightly better story to the show would've been if Shredder was the one to release The Dragon Lord and his cronies out and gets betrayed by them and make temporary alliance with the turtles
All media after 9/11: "What twin towers?! There are no twin towers and there have never been any twin tower! *slams the door at your face*"
yeah that logic still doesn't make sense to me
I don’t understand why they want to pretend the towers never existed, that’s just dumb and disrespectful
@@FireRising86 Probably to avoid possible trigger warnings at the time but they somehow lost the original master copies so we were stuck with Post-9/11 airings even though this show should've been off the air completely since 1998.
"NEVER FORGET EXCEPT ON TV AND MOVIES"
"A review is never finished. They're only abandoned.. or something" -Phelous (Probably)
"TH-cam sure can be annoying sometimes" - George Lucas
Imma say this here too but I'm surprised that this show knows what a Shuriken even looks like. You'd think they'd grab a stick paint it gold and call it the Golden Shuriken
Splinter: Oh noes, Shredder!
Also Splinter: Shredder's back XD
I see Shredder's mastered the ninjutsu art of mouthing his words like he's in an English dub of a Godzilla or Gamera movie
Much like with the vampires and Bonesteel, there was some potential here if Shredder was still a threat to see him take on Dragon Lord and his dragons as a means of securing his territory from a rival faction or even seeing him join forces with Dragon Lord to get revenge on the turtles...but as always this show can only be a disappointment.
Christmas is coming. There is an adaptation of A Christmas Carol done by Good Times. It’s what you’d expect. You gotta make it happen this year, Phelous!
14:54 That scene is bad enough in the show, but just imagine being someone who trained in martial Arts for years to be a stunt actor in Hollywood. You keep putting out your credentials in hopes of getting your dream job but don't hear back from anyone.
Then one day, you get a call from these showrunners saying they want to hire you and it's for a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles project! That'd look great in your resume!
You take the job and all excited for it, sure the costumes don't look great, but whatever work is work and this will surely help your career.
Then one day for shooting, the director tells you and the rest of the stunt actors that they're going to wrap white sheets around your crotch and tell you all to act like babies.
I can't imagine the humiliation those poor actors must have felt. If I was one of them I'd probably never take my mask off just so the director couldn't see my looks of disgust and anger at everything.
It’s extremely upsetting to see the stunt actors in this shitshow
England probably made TH-cam take this down because Phelous said "ninja".
😅 I hope not, that’s where I live
Nice one, this should have more likes.
This series did worse by Shredder than the first 2 movies. Keep in mind in the first one he fell off a building into a garbage truck which then Casey started the crusher. The second one had an entire wooden boardwalk fall on top of him. Minor detail but how are Shredder and Splinter are nostalgic over sparring when in this incarnation they only fought a few times as it follows the first 3 movies but they say they've sparred a lot
I would LOVE a TMNT universe where the Shredder became more of a frienemy by the progression of the show 'cause of a bigger villain.
There's potential of a reformed Shredder and Splinter friendship
In the idw comics shredder & splinter do become friends in fact splinter helps him redeem. Himself and shredder becomes a good guy after splinter death in the comics and helps out the turtles
Kitty litter? Still have drunk censorship over here!😅
Yes I’m BRITISH 🤣
In the second episode review when you said that Shredder would be back, I was excited. Now I regret feeling that way.
You need to find a new way :P
What is Saban’s hard on/hate on for this video? This is more attention given to this show now than when it actually released!
Yeah I don’t understand either
there is nothing that separates it from the other episodes of the series
@Stephen Qualio you think they do reruns?
@@gracekim25 I know they did reruns on the Hub years ago.
@@dnmstarsi oh ok
I love how Shredder acts as if he had no idea he was carrying a magical MacGuffin which could supposedly grant him ultimate power in his pocket this entire time until Splinter brought it up.
"I just kept it because I thought it looked good on me. I had no idea it was magic! Thanks, rat! Now I shall use it to destroy you all! Muhahahaha!" Another reason to hate Splinter.
ll the *Real* Shredder, please stand up! Not even the other Incantation doesn't want to be near this version of Shredder!
Even TH-cam hates Splinter
Splinter brings Hitler to the lair.
Mikey: How the hell is Hitler here? And why did you bring him here?
Splinter: I believe he is a changed man.
Hitler: Do you have any WW2 history books?
Splinter: Right over there.
Hitler: I am going to borrow them?
Splinter: Sure
Mikey: Master, stop him.
Splinter trips Mikey.
Hitler goes back to his time and changes history to his vision.
Then Jin-Roh happens and Hitler dies anyway, because on The Next Mutation, everyone is a loser.
I hate Hitler... 🎶
So Splinter is now the creator of the Wolfenstein: New Order universe?
@@brandonlyon730 maybe splinter made starfish hitler
You should always help the hero
@@JRBDWD Isn't that how we got Baron Strahd? 🧛♂️
Actually the ORIGINAL cartoon series KINDA already did this idea where Shredder had amnesia and the Turtles take him back to the lair. However Splinter was smart because after Leonardo rightfully pointed out the danger of letting him stay Splinter hypnotises Shredder into thinking he's Michaelangelo. He remains that way until apparently hearing his old name snaps him out of it and he still pretends to be Michaelangelo setting the Turtles up for a trap. Actually the whole episode is cool and everyone ACTUALLY acts smart; mostly. Next mutation just crapped all over this concept done 20 years ago and also made everyone an idiot.🙄
It would've been cool to see another take on that idea. Heck, Phelan's idea for this story could've been a decent scenario especially after what happen in Episode 2. Nothing wrong with rehashing ideas as long as you do something different and interesting but this?
Enjoy your one season, show. You've clearly proven why Turtles Forever didn't acknowledge your existence (even if this takes place in the movie universe).
I will never understand why no one batted an eye for the first twenty-four episodes, but then this episode ended up getting raped by inexplicable claims
Probably the Shredder complaints. This episode was probably setup for the return of Shredder if this whole series wasn't series sabotage.
Maybe this is the only episode the company cares about because the Shredder is their most beloved property or something
Clearly, someone was involved in this one episode and this one episode alone and they want all traces of that humiliation buried. Understandable, really.
I was wondering what happened to this one. Maybe it's the UK editors, desperate to cut the remainder of the episode.
Maybe you can replace the video with a grappling hook!
At this point, I’m surprised the UK didn’t censor the entire show for how offensively stupid it is
@@thekeybladeninjaturtle7380 😅
This feels like an attempt win back the crowd but devolving into total nonsense.
Damn, even with added colour/contrast correction and random zooms, it still gets flagged?
What does that episode have that the others don't?
Best Phelan video ever. Including as a Re-edit.
TH-cam stop taking down the video.
There’s one more episode after this? COWABUNGA!! Okay one more to go and then we can all be thankful that it’ll be all over!
There's a crossover to cover as well
@@dnmstarsi oh yeah the one with the Power Rangers.
@@MaggieOffutt Yep. And that's next.
For many years I had no idea that it was Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air that did the voice of Shredder.
Jesus Christ what does this episode have that the others don't? TH-cam STOP IT!
maybe the youtube bot is just a big shredder fan and refuses to be exposed to what they do with him in this episode?
Then they should have also remove episode 2 since that's the one where the Shred gets pwned by Venus.
@@ruleofoz2207 Makes sense. I love your username. I'm an Oz-nerd myself
@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 Exactly!🤣 I mean theres already a lot people who have said Venus was the main reason this show failed. Yeah not the fact it has unnecessary slapstick, sexist remarks from Raph (who is my favourite turtle) and the villain in the final showdown defeated by frickin itching powder, nah it's the Ninja Turtle with boobs that broke this show's back. Lol.
Interesting how shredder could have become a reluctant ally here but eh🤷♀️
October 2021
Ya know, looking back at this I had a theory that the reason they wrote Shredder out may have been due to the show wanting the villains to be more cartoony and comedic rather than human like to avoid being censored too much. When you look back at it, the guys hardly ever fight and for the most part when they do it's with those COVERED dragon scouts. You know how the 80s cartoon made the Foot Soldiers robots in certain episodes to allow the guys to cut them to pieces while at the same time prevent them from getting censored by NOT killing humans? The same rule seems to apply with the dragon scouts as because we KNOW they aren't human, the turtles can kick their asses as much as they want but with Shredder, not a chance considering he's the most competent fighter in the series.
They can get away with it when you put Bonesteel on screen because all his fights are comedic and goofy with all the moves usually being the guys wrapping him up in something like a 3 Stooges gag rather than real hand to hand combat. Even with Dragon Lord they didn't fight him a lot and he was supposed to be this massively powerful being that could top Shredder but they never did anything with him.
Shredder was just a commodity they didn't want anything to do with because he wasn't 'exciting' compared to their new dragon villain but probably because of restrictions they couldn't utilize Dragon Lord for more than anything but sitting around and plotting stuff, also because the costume was so poorly made it may have made fighting a headache to do.
Fun fact: While this is the worst Shredder in history, he is still the best villain in this series. And I don't add anything else...
Well, his only real competition is a killer gorilla, so...
Such a pity the writers lacked talent.
@@SanFran51More like they didn't give a damn about the Turtles since apparently some of these writers would go on to do other work which were better than their writing here but w.e.
I'll the Shredder is the worst. He keeps shredding this Next Mutation review. Thankfully, Phelous is dedicated to his craft and able to fix it so it's clear to go.
SHREDDED!
Phelous: *wants to keep a video up*
TH-cam: Wait, that's illegal -
Ngl, the movie-like filter Phelous puts on some of the scenes actually makes the show look a bit better...just that bit though.
12:50 I just love Donnies pose and movements in the background as if he's praying to the script Gods for better writing and at the same time he can hear them saying "NO!"
The Turtles keep allowing the villains to cause mayhem in the streets and don't care how many people the dragons eat. When you really think about it, it's no wonder why New York in this show is a ghost town.
Phelan your too funny in this absolutely love your splinter impressions love the i thought he be a better peson because i give him tea part 😂
Speaking of TNM being a pseudo-continuation of the 90’s movies, this show was a result of a cancelled Ninja Turtles IV movie which was also called The Next Mutation!
The introduction of an evil April O'Neal and a fifth turtle named Kirby was interesting.
I think it was mentioned in the introduction video
the splinter/shredder thing looks like a fanfic by someone who ships the main character with his enemy/rival and BS's up some way for them to just get over their canon issues and get together as a couple instead.
just found this. hope youtube doesn't take this down again.
In a alternate dimension, Shredder turned into Chester Z Bum
To think that Shredder is the smartest character in the show since he killed them all
I just realized something. What if by happenstance that this show's existence is predicted by the "Wacky Deli" episode from Rocco's Modern Life? Someone in charge of The Next Mutation in whatever department it's for hates the TMNT with a burning passion that their mission is to do whatever they can to sabotage the show, and yet, the higher exec's from Saban looked at this and said "WE LOVE IT!🤪" and that's how it was able to have a full season and a Power Rangers collab. I think I deciphered it. Rocco's Modern Life predicted the existence of Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation.
And yet we got no episode where it was just a shot of Mayo or alike. Guess Rocko was a bit off about this show. LOL
Pretty sure Next Mutation used the same set as the second Turtles move since it's more a subway than a sewer, not sure if it's just because they are all live action but I always thought Next Mutation was following the movies.
I'm going to keep thumbs up'ing this episode no matter how many times TH-cam tries to take it down
Yeah me too
Splinter wants the Shredder to be their stepfather
Mikey did say he was a neat guy who could rock them in his arms and sing to them.
Splinter was Married once?!
Ah hobo Shredder cause that's what we needed, then again it would be cool if they added a golden shuriken shredder. A new power up to fight the turtles & a new toy to buy.
Jetix Censorship: Ooooo guess what “Enemy of my Enemy” you just got *SHREDDED*
Just thought you should know that without the episode number in the title they stop showing the next review at the top of the sidebar. Also, searching for 25 turns up the finale instead of this. I'm guessing this one is suffering in views as a result.
yes
When you realise Shredder looks confused when Splinter first mentions it, that indicates the character was not aware of it before or the fact the he ‘stole’ it😶………….
AH probably a coincidence 😜
Third times the charm 😊
Btw can't wait till the near finale of this trainwreck!
They keep taking it down, I keep thumbsing it up!
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Wow those UK cuts are so ridiculous. They basically wrecked that entire final fight scene down to only a few minutes. Those censor guys are completely nutty. Also Bum and Mook? Seriously not that offensive!
They were definitely drunk 😂
IIRC Bum is English slang for ass in the UK and if Bonesteel got away with calling the turtles "cooters" which is also slang for "vagina", I can see the reason for that edit even though Oroku Saki is an ass while the male Turtles are giant pussies.
If this gets taken down again, just put it on zip file and no one can do anything about it
I got my Ghostbusters items in the mail yesterday from Spirit Halloween.
Out of all of the episodes in this series, this is probably the worst you've covered. I've only ever watched two episodes back when they were first on and that was a horrible mistake. As a kid I could barely tolerate them.
Oh gosh 😅
The shredder is so pathetic, that his return episode had to be edited thrice. What copyright holder is dmca-ing Phelan over the Next Mutation?!
I forgot what I said last time 😅 but I only just realised this one is back
I watch this one every time it gets uploaded to support phelous