Great reaction, one thing that was not mentioned was the police had to go into a store to get the high power rifles, The Police did not have them issued until after.
This part was false. Many people at the scene offered guns and to take out the robbers. The police refused all help which caused the situation to drag on.
@@protonneutron9046 that didn't happen beyond a single man who Worked? possibly lived across from the bank, he had a bolt action rifle and a few rounds for it.
I watched this live on TV. I live in LA and believe me it was more intense than the narrator let's on to be. The news showed everything ie; the injured police, the criminal shooting himself in the head and some of the other injured civilians. They also showed the second gunman being shot and bleeding out on live TV. Since that day the news organizations agreed to not show such things from close up. If they think there might be loss of life or catastrophic injuries, the cameras will pull out as not to give close ups of the incidents.
Officer down is simply the radio signal that an officer has become incapacitated and needs immediate medical assistance. It doesn't necessarily mean that they've been killed or that it was the result of any kind of violence.
No, that's not what it's all about. Shotgun shot and slugs aren't meant to penetrate armor. A slug is just a big chunk of lead with a large surface area, perfect for Kevlar to "catch". They're moving plenty fast, but they're easily caught, like a pistol round. Shot isn't heavy enough, fast enough, or shaped right to penetrate Kevlar. Rifle builts pen armor so well because of both velocity and bullet shape. To achieve stability, velocity, and range, most are pointed. That point can push through armor by focusing the impact on a smaller area. Butmlike someone else mentioned, a slug hit to armor would still be damn near fatal. Or at least obscenely painful.
I had heard a story that the gun store that was "raided" by the LAPD for higher power weaponry eventually got the rifles back. However, they were used and the gun store asked the LAPD to buy them or reimburse them the difference as the rifles could no longer be sold as new. LAPD refused. Eventually the gun store owner came up with the idea to sell them as used relics from the North Hollywood Shootout and was able to sell them for far more than what they'd initially asked for. This incident and the 1986 FBI Shootout in Miami changed how law enforcement was armed.
Not surprising.....stealing from the taxpayers is business as usual for government employees.....add it to the list of reasons people don't like the police.
I watched it live and when they had the second guy on the ground without bringing the ambulance I was not at all bothered. There are some people who are too stupid to live.
I was on the 101 freeway when I realized there was a huge number of choppers in the air. I got home to find my husband waving me in the house, asking me if I knew what was happening. I said, "A bank robbery?". He rolled his eyes and told me to get in the house. It was live on tv. The B and B gun store did indeed let the cops take whatever they needed. The cop car that was full of holes was on display at the station for a long time. It was too close for comfort and I couldn't wait to get out of L.A. Guys, there are much better documentaries than this one, it only scratched the surface.
I remember that day. I’ve used that specific Bank of America branch many times both before and after this event. North Hollywood is a neighborhood in Los Angeles’ San Fernando Valley.
I have a friend who worked at a movie theater (cinema) just down the street from where this happened. She told me that at first they had stepped outside out of curiosity to see what was happening. They quickly got back inside, locked the doors and huddled in the manager’s office, watching everything on television. Needless to say they did not have any customers that day.
I remember that day. Much of the coverage was live. That whole body armor thing - most civilians, I think, had never heard of it at that point. Or maybe I'm confusing this episode with another?
The thing that sticks in my mind about this case is that the second robber, who left in the car, was denied medical care because supposedly the police weren't sure if there were more shooters around. I don't believe that. I think the police wanted to make a point and they used that guy to send a message. Try something like this and you aren't coming out of it alive. The last thing you'd want is for that guy to live, go to prison, and start telling other inmates what he did and how he survived being chased and captured. You want everyone to see that they'll let you die in the street if you do something like this.
I think it should be noted that at the time these guns were “illegal” to own or possess and remains one of the only shootings that involved fully automatic weapons.
The North Hollywood shootout and Miami Dade shootout had a huge influence on American policing. When people complain about militarized police they need to learn about this.
This happened like 15 minutes from my house and about 5 from my grandma’s house. It completely changed the way the police and security operates in the entire US. I remember watching the news coverage in my classroom in 4th grade I believe, must have been like 9 years old.
@@Annonymous0283745 did you miss the part where 20+ innocent citizens plus the officers were shot? Or are you just one of those macho over the top gun enthusiasts who get off on seeing shootings or something? If it’s the latter, you’re an embarrassment to the firearm community.
This video left so much out... the cops had to go to a local gun shop to get .223 rifles to take these guys down they didn't stand a chance... each guy was shot 15 or so times as well.. should watch the real footage of it with the sound of the guns its way moreee intensee!
I moved to Los Angeles in 1995 and was working at an electronics store in Studio City (one town south of North Hollywood) while this was playing out live on TV on all of the TVs in the video section. It was all unfolding on the same street as our store, Laurel Canyon Blvd, just a mile down the road from us.
I am German and a retired police officer from Berlin. This is the worst situation you can imagine. The perpetrators sometimes used high-performance weapons in conjunction with armor-piercing ammunition. Regardless of whether someone has something against the police in the USA, they should keep in mind that that this ammunition can kill at several hundred meters and cause serious injuries. The weapon and the ammunition don't care who it kills or injures. It doesn't make any differences. A number of civilians, including them, critics of the police or their relatives, could have died. For the police officers it was a fight to the death from the first second. Equipped with completely unsuitable weapons and bulletproof vests that offered no protection whatsoever, while the perpetrators were well armored. Most of those who criticized the police "why not a shot in the head" only show one thing, that they cannot demonstrate any qualified knowledge. This isn't/wasn't a shooter, it's just reality. You don't sit on a comfortable computer chair with your drink and cigarettes next to you and when things get too hectic you press the pause button. In this situation, the next second could also be the last.
72 here. I remember this well. I lived about 15 minutes (by car) from this location. I have a memory of the last guy casually walking down the sidewalk (pavement) he is taken down on. Amazing and horrific.
Back then they weren't so squeamish about such things. Back then we had executives and politicians blowing their brains out during live press conferences.
There is another famous shootout in American history. The FBI vs Columbian druglords in Miami back in the 1980s. The FBI, who carried .38 Special revolvers (revolvers only hold 6 bullets), were seriously out-gunned by the druglords. Many agents died in the shootout. The FBI decided to ditch the .38 Special in exchange for the 10MM Norma. Norma, a Swedish Company, developed the original 10MM to defend against bear attacks. The 10MM bullet was too much for some agents to safely and accurately shoot. So the FBI went to Smith & Wesson and asked them to "tame" the 10MM. S&W cut the shell down, used less powder, and re-named it .40s&w. The joke amongst gun people is the S&W in .40 caliber stands for 'slow & weak'. But, the 40 caliber semi-auto (semi-auto's hold anywhere from 10-16 bullets depending on the magazine) is now the industry standard for most American law enforcement agencies. You cant make your own guns, but you can make your own bullets.
the robbers took civilian legal weapons then modified them illegally to become machineguns. Normally the only machineguns in civilian possession belong to the extremely wealthy collectors as you can only legally own machineguns registered before the year 1986 and it requires special paperwork and for you to pay a 250 USD tax stamp on top of what you would normally need for regular civilian legal weaponry. For example a crappy MAC 11 SMG can easily cost you between 8000 USD - 10,000 USD at auction even though when they were first released they sold for about 400 USD new They are becoming more and more rare and because of it they will keep climbing in price.
I had never heard of this until I moved to Los Angeles and then I realized I had passed that bank every single day on the way to work. This was like a year ago
The year this happened, the LAPD didn't expect to encounter this during a normal police interaction, which is why all of the patrol cruisers were equipped with shotguns, and only the SWAT teams had automatic rifles. SWAT teams train for this, your normal beat cop does not.After this incident, many departments begin switching to MP5's and AR-15's as duty weapons for the patrol cars. What's interesting is that the LAPD was so outgunned, they went to a nearby gun store and commandeered all of the semi-auto rifles in an attempt to even the gunfight.
According to the made for tv movie of the shootout the two men were to hit an armor truck that was supposed to come to the bank but they either the truck was running late, time mistake or truck's route was changed which led then to them hit the bank instead.
This was the moment that changed American police policies... before this, every town and city did NOT have their own S.W.A.T. teams... after this incident, we made sure that every town in America has their own S.W.A.T. team... (meaning more powerful weapons, and more protection for the cops)
Mark 9:26. Hmm. When a walking expletive 🤬 shot my dog Nikkos with an unexpected shotgun instead of the expected tranquilizer dart gun, in 1998 or 1999, the blasts didn't "blow" any part of him away like they depict in movies. That's why the guy that killed my poor dog shot more than once and kept asking if my dog was dead! Shotgun ammunition isn't generic. You have "buckshot" for shooting bucks. "Birdshot" for shooting birds and so on and so forth.
This is what led to American police being heavily armed. Before, most just had six shooters and maybe shotguns. Police had to loot a pawn shop to get heavier weapons to return fire more effectively.
Learn About Guns Before Narrating a video like this!!!! They said powerful, "semi-auto weapons" ... almost every single gun a person can buy, from a pistol, to an AR-15 are ALL SEMI-AUTO GUNS!" SEMI AUTO GUNS ARE STANDARD WEAPONS, AND PERFECTLY LEGAL, HOWEVER THESE GUYS CHANGED the guns to have 3 round bursts, and even fully-auto settings, which is Totally Illegal in the U.S!!!!., (unless you have a very specific and rare licences, usually ONLY given to the best of the best military personnel... which neither of them had)... Tell the Truth on these videos, or nobody will ever understand what was really happening!!!
Mark 11:45. People were shot, so they were "wounded" as in "GSW". ("Gun Shot Wound".) You're "injured" when hurt while doing other activities not involving weapons. 🧐
The bank robbers were using full metal jacket rounds, which altho it can pierce armor and go thru a car, but it also creates very "clean" wounds that are less deadly. So even tho 19 civilians and muliple cops got shot, all of them survived. FMJ were developed for an actual war zone, where the goal is to wound enemy soldiers rather than outright killing them, it ties up resources in rescuing and caring for the wounded. Cops use equipment that has low velocity and low penetration, so that a stray bullet doesn't go thru someone's house and kill a sleeping child.
Before this incident, police only carried hand guns and shotguns. Only Swat had high-powered rifles. It was after this incident that they started the militarization of the police.
For everyone here a 3A vest is not heavily armored body armor! 3A Kevlar is rated to stop gun fire from hand guns. It cannot stop bullets fired from some shotgun cartridges and it definitely can't stop rifle rounds due to their high velocity and penetration power. Average highway patrol police wear 3A body armor. SWAT or the Military use level 3 or higher body armor to protect from rifle rounds and shrapnel from explosions. 3A uses ceramic to stop pistol bullets and level 3 uses steel plates coated in anti-sprawling material to stop rifle bullets and reduce shrapnel spread with the coating material.
Level 3A is all kevlar (soft) body armor that stops lower velocity bullets of handguns and shotguns. Level 3 are the ones that have ceramic plates inserted or steel plates. Ceramic is lighter and more expensive than steel plates but they both will stop rifle rounds up to the 30-06 and non armor piercing rifle rounds. Ceramic is designed to break apart to absorb some of the energy so it will not stop mulitiple rounds in the same area unlike the heavier steel plates. The military use the ceramic plates.
@@joeiborowski9763 Thanks for the insight. I did not know ceramic plates were a thing in level 3, because mine are steel plates. I own a 3A too. I Guess the military might go ceramic since its lighter than steel plates.
Great vids, you guys need your own channel or Patreon so we can assist in growing your channel. I am like Sophie crim investigation is my thing that's why I watch the I.D channel often. I was 4.5 months away from graduating high school. A lot of events happened when I was in hs, the oj simpson chase then the trial. My teacher started crying in anger and said it was a racist crime. then Titanic was released. Keep the great videos going. We watch them religiously
While I enjoy that you guys reacted to this topic after this video I'm not a fan of the channel you watched, he missed out on some big details, worded things weirdly which makes stuff confusing, and added his own details that weren't accurate
I have lived in California most of my life (having lived in Montana for 10 years) and was in high school when this happened. I have always been a huge crime/mystery buff and would have jumped on this as I had family in various parts of California (including in the LA/Anahiem area). Yet, I had never heard of this shootout at all.
I lived a mile from there when this happened. All of a sudden I heard police car after police car descend into my area. And 10 helicopters were buzzing around. I got scared. I turned on the TV and saw what was happening. I didn’t know what to do. I couldn’t go out. I barricaded myself in. Things didn’t subside until 5pm. Then I left to go stay with friends in another county to escape the war zone. I’ll never forget that day.
1.5K Thumbs Up + Mine! 👍 You're welcome! Thanks! 😊 Notes: Since I worked at night, I was probably asleep as it happened live. Then I would wake up in time to go to work. Repeat the cycle. I don't know when I would have learned about the incident from the news. 🤔 But anyway, yes. That day's events did have repercussions for everyone around the globe. 🌐🗺🌍🌎🌏
i'm not yet far into the video, but i wanted to mention (in case the narrator didn't) that this incident was a watershed moment in american police history. prior to this, police hadn't really *_needed_* anything more powerful than a shotgun or basic handgun. they'd never dealt with suspects that were so heavily armed and armored. it was after this, that police departments all over the country had to rethink not just the types of equipment that was issued or available to the officers, but develop new tactics and training procedures. i watched this unfold live on television, and remember thinking, _"this is going to be a game changer for police in america."_
This happened just after my 15th birthday. I remember watching it live on TV and it was just *ucking insane. We had never experienced anything like it. It was like the Hollywood film "Heat" that it come out two years prior.
A shotgun is definitely a powerful weapon but only effective at close range as the pellets from the shotgun shell (bullet if you will) spread out more and more the further they travel. So if you are a cop taking cover behind a wall or a car and you are 100 feet away, it’s much less effective than say getting hit from a shorter range where the pellets are still in a close bunch. Basically if you are close , a shotgun will put a pretty big hole in someone but if you are too far away you might not even hit them. I live in northern California and I would have been about 15 when this happened and I don’t remember ever hearing about it but I wasn’t exactly sitting around watching the news on tv as a 15 year old. 😂 Pretty interesting story. Keep it up guys!
From watching bullets bounce off the homemade armor without even knocking them back an inch, they should’ve tried to keep them alive to hire them to design vests for police because even when police get shot in their vests, it’ll put them down and break some ribs and or bones in their chests. His home made vest was better than what police are issued.
If you found this interesting you should watch a video about the bomb collar bank robbery. It's like something straight out of a movie. If you do, fair warning; there is video on youtube of the robber's (stooge really. It's a wild set of circumstances) death. Not super graphic but still unsettling so be careful what video you choose.
This is the incident that led to most U.S. Police Departments to start carrying rifles, better body armor, and "military " style equipment. Also, a shotgun will do much more damage than an AR, round for round.
I watched that take place thanks to the overhead news copters taking various recorded and live views given out narionwide as it happened. It was surreal. Lots of things changed nation wide because of this event.
They don't have the best guns because those are extremely expensive. The best AR style rifle on the market is the Heckler & Koch MR556A1, and those are $3,500 (£2,850) each. For a police force the size of LAPD, it would be over $32 million (about £26.5 million) for just the guns, plus the magazines ($60/£49 each so ($553,560/£451,063 for one extra magazine per officer) but more realistically it would be 3-5 per officer ($1,660,680/£1,353,189-$2,767,800/£2,255,314) and the ammo (around $0.52/£0.42 per round x 30 rounds per magazine ($15.60/£12.71 per magazine) x 3-5 magazines per officer ($46.80/£38.13- $78/£63.56). That's a total cost of $3,695.60/£3,011.32 on the low side per officer, so figure low side is about $34 million/£27.8 million. They can't afford that.
As a matter of perspective, fear and desperation is exactly what they were exhibiting! The weapons, the armor, the intent, were all indicators of fear and desperation raised over reason and character. This is not to condone or defend their actions, they deserve no sympathy. As a matter of trivia, this event inspired the movie "Heat" staring Al Pacino and Robert Deniro.
@@jaydeleon8094 I know, I was a teenager when this happened. Was just stating it was very uncommon back then for people in the city areas even gangs to have much more than pistols. I suppose the tech-9 and Uzi was around a bit back then in criminal hands, but rifles were not the case. This incident changed a lot for sure.
March 0:37. "GRAPHIC CONTENT"?! D'OH! Since "photography" translates to "light writing" or "writing with light " you would hope so! "Pornography" is "harlot writing" or "the writing of a harlot". If your word ends thst way it is about writing vua whatever medium of format. So if this video lacked "graphic content" it wouldn't exist because it couldn't exist. I posted comments to various news places and some of them actually switched to different terminology. Carry on viewing. 🧐
"Four hundred AND thousand dollars in stolen cash?" This narrator needs to learn a lot more about the English language before he continues this work...
America Police don't have "bigger guns' on the "patrol officer level" because of "over penetration" issues. You don't want to be in a situation where a police officer fires at someone, only to have the bullet go THROUGH the suspect and into innocent people behind him, or through a wall into a room where there was no way to tell if anyone was in there or not.
Wife & youngest of his two sons. Other son is Declan which has been in a video or two. Young female is a family friend. Feel free to watch the vid as Daz suggests.
Great reaction, one thing that was not mentioned was the police had to go into a store to get the high power rifles, The Police did not have them issued until after.
the PATROL officers went to a store. SWAT already had them and arrived before the patrol officers even made it into the store.
This part was false. Many people at the scene offered guns and to take out the robbers. The police refused all help which caused the situation to drag on.
@@jaydeleon8094 and the gun store was forced out of business.
@@protonneutron9046 that didn't happen beyond a single man who Worked? possibly lived across from the bank, he had a bolt action rifle and a few rounds for it.
@@garythornbury9793 they took 5 rifles, if the store went out of business that was the community, not the police.
I watched this live on TV. I live in LA and believe me it was more intense than the narrator let's on to be. The news showed everything ie; the injured police, the criminal shooting himself in the head and some of the other injured civilians. They also showed the second gunman being shot and bleeding out on live TV. Since that day the news organizations agreed to not show such things from close up. If they think there might be loss of life or catastrophic injuries, the cameras will pull out as not to give close ups of the incidents.
News coverage wasn't changed by this incident. It was a suicide by shotgun.
Daniel V Jones, to be exact.
@@gregall2178 You are right. I watched that live on TV as well. Got my timeliness reversed.
I remember watching it, too. It was crazy.
I haven't thought about this in years. I'm excited to watch this.
I also saw this live, I missed school this day and by chance I saw this
Officer down is simply the radio signal that an officer has become incapacitated and needs immediate medical assistance. It doesn't necessarily mean that they've been killed or that it was the result of any kind of violence.
Shotguns usually shoot at a lower velocity than rifles, that's why it couldn't get through their armor
12 gauge slug even on body arm would stop most people. getting hit by a truck sucks ha
No, that's not what it's all about. Shotgun shot and slugs aren't meant to penetrate armor. A slug is just a big chunk of lead with a large surface area, perfect for Kevlar to "catch". They're moving plenty fast, but they're easily caught, like a pistol round. Shot isn't heavy enough, fast enough, or shaped right to penetrate Kevlar. Rifle builts pen armor so well because of both velocity and bullet shape. To achieve stability, velocity, and range, most are pointed. That point can push through armor by focusing the impact on a smaller area. Butmlike someone else mentioned, a slug hit to armor would still be damn near fatal. Or at least obscenely painful.
I had heard a story that the gun store that was "raided" by the LAPD for higher power weaponry eventually got the rifles back. However, they were used and the gun store asked the LAPD to buy them or reimburse them the difference as the rifles could no longer be sold as new. LAPD refused. Eventually the gun store owner came up with the idea to sell them as used relics from the North Hollywood Shootout and was able to sell them for far more than what they'd initially asked for.
This incident and the 1986 FBI Shootout in Miami changed how law enforcement was armed.
The Channel "Popo Medic" has a good video on this as well.
Not surprising.....stealing from the taxpayers is business as usual for government employees.....add it to the list of reasons people don't like the police.
I remember watching this live as it happened. I thought it was a movie at first. And there was a movie made about this event called 44 Minutes.
I vividly remember watching this Live too. It was so tense!
I watched it live and when they had the second guy on the ground without bringing the ambulance I was not at all bothered. There are some people who are too stupid to live.
@@mortimerbrewster3671His rights were still denied and violated which is why the family the bank robber Emil sued the city.
This incident is what "militarized" the police in the US and why so many departments have their officers carry AR-15's in their squad cars.
This finished that !!! The Miami shootout started it lol.. But Sith in a year every cop had a rifle now
The commentator was wrong from the start , they had full auto rifles. Semi-auto means you had to squeeze and release the trigger with each shot
He doesn't get that when he says 2 illegally modded firearms ment they were full auto
@@sleigh4019 True, criminals do not care about the laws, they will modify their rifles however they want.
Despite being in Canada, I remember watching this and the OJ Simpson white Ford Bronco chase on KTLA (Los Angeles channel) when each of them occured.
I was on the 101 freeway when I realized there was a huge number of choppers in the air. I got home to find my husband waving me in the house, asking me if I knew what was happening. I said, "A bank robbery?". He rolled his eyes and told me to get in the house. It was live on tv. The B and B gun store did indeed let the cops take whatever they needed.
The cop car that was full of holes was on display at the station for a long time. It was too close for comfort and I couldn't wait to get out of L.A.
Guys, there are much better documentaries than this one, it only scratched the surface.
It was compared to the bank robbery shootout scene from the movie "Heat" which came out in 1995 starring Deniro and Pacino.
I remember that day. I’ve used that specific Bank of America branch many times both before and after this event.
North Hollywood is a neighborhood in Los Angeles’ San Fernando Valley.
I have a friend who worked at a movie theater (cinema) just down the street from where this happened. She told me that at first they had stepped outside out of curiosity to see what was happening. They quickly got back inside, locked the doors and huddled in the manager’s office, watching everything on television. Needless to say they did not have any customers that day.
I remember that day. Much of the coverage was live.
That whole body armor thing - most civilians, I think, had never heard of it at that point. Or maybe I'm confusing this episode with another?
The thing that sticks in my mind about this case is that the second robber, who left in the car, was denied medical care because supposedly the police weren't sure if there were more shooters around. I don't believe that. I think the police wanted to make a point and they used that guy to send a message. Try something like this and you aren't coming out of it alive. The last thing you'd want is for that guy to live, go to prison, and start telling other inmates what he did and how he survived being chased and captured. You want everyone to see that they'll let you die in the street if you do something like this.
I think it should be noted that at the time these guns were “illegal” to own or possess and remains one of the only shootings that involved fully automatic weapons.
The North Hollywood shootout and Miami Dade shootout had a huge influence on American policing. When people complain about militarized police they need to learn about this.
This happened like 15 minutes from my house and about 5 from my grandma’s house. It completely changed the way the police and security operates in the entire US. I remember watching the news coverage in my classroom in 4th grade I believe, must have been like 9 years old.
I was about 8 and a hslf years old when this event took place as well.
Gayna had a point she just didn't have the wording right. A shotgun will not overpenatrate like a rifle will
Love the fam! Great reaction....
Oh, this one will be INTENSE, Daz us fairly familiar with it. And yes, it IS real life and was tragic.
tragic? only the criminals died.
@@Annonymous0283745 did you miss the part where 20+ innocent citizens plus the officers were shot? Or are you just one of those macho over the top gun enthusiasts who get off on seeing shootings or something? If it’s the latter, you’re an embarrassment to the firearm community.
Mark 15:58. Kudos to the guy for being honest enough to name the movie clip sources as he uses them! 👍
This video left so much out... the cops had to go to a local gun shop to get .223 rifles to take these guys down they didn't stand a chance... each guy was shot 15 or so times as well.. should watch the real footage of it with the sound of the guns its way moreee intensee!
Haha love the backdrop. Playing to your audience! Good work! 🙂🇺🇸
Officer down does not mean they died, just to let you know Aiden. Just means they need medical assistance.
I moved to Los Angeles in 1995 and was working at an electronics store in Studio City (one town south of North Hollywood) while this was playing out live on TV on all of the TVs in the video section. It was all unfolding on the same street as our store, Laurel Canyon Blvd, just a mile down the road from us.
I remember watching this live years ago....crazy
I am German and a retired police officer from Berlin. This is the worst situation you can imagine. The perpetrators sometimes used high-performance weapons in conjunction with armor-piercing ammunition. Regardless of whether someone has something against the police in the USA, they should keep in mind that that this ammunition can kill at several hundred meters and cause serious injuries. The weapon and the ammunition don't care who it kills or injures. It doesn't make any differences. A number of civilians, including them, critics of the police or their relatives, could have died.
For the police officers it was a fight to the death from the first second. Equipped with completely unsuitable weapons and bulletproof vests that offered no protection whatsoever, while the perpetrators were well armored. Most of those who criticized the police "why not a shot in the head" only show one thing, that they cannot demonstrate any qualified knowledge. This isn't/wasn't a shooter, it's just reality. You don't sit on a comfortable computer chair with your drink and cigarettes next to you and when things get too hectic you press the pause button. In this situation, the next second could also be the last.
This is why American police react the way they do. Also, not a single person died that besides the robbers. Which is unbelievable.
American police act the way they do because they are psychopaths. Crime happens all over the world, but only American police enjoy brutalizing people.
No. They react the way they do becsuse they are the jack booted thugs of the government and are their attack dogs.
I remember this live. Saw it live on the news. It was insane.
72 here. I remember this well. I lived about 15 minutes (by car) from this location. I have a memory of the last guy casually walking down the sidewalk (pavement) he is taken down on. Amazing and horrific.
This was on tv live as it happened. When the guy near the end commits suicide I was shocked! It was live on tv.
Back then they weren't so squeamish about such things. Back then we had executives and politicians blowing their brains out during live press conferences.
For every 100 people in the US, there are 110 guns. The US population is about 330 million and there are over 400 million legal guns here as well.
But do not forget about the illegal firearms, as many of the weapons used were not obtainable through legal means at the time.
The amount of illegal black market weapons is easily double the amount of legal weapons.
Watched it live. I lived 40 mins. away back then, from where it went down.
You should check out Popo Medic's video on the Norco Shootout, because that made this look like a training exercise....
This is a better video.
There is another famous shootout in American history. The FBI vs Columbian druglords in Miami back in the 1980s. The FBI, who carried .38 Special revolvers (revolvers only hold 6 bullets), were seriously out-gunned by the druglords. Many agents died in the shootout. The FBI decided to ditch the .38 Special in exchange for the 10MM Norma. Norma, a Swedish Company, developed the original 10MM to defend against bear attacks. The 10MM bullet was too much for some agents to safely and accurately shoot. So the FBI went to Smith & Wesson and asked them to "tame" the 10MM. S&W cut the shell down, used less powder, and re-named it .40s&w. The joke amongst gun people is the S&W in .40 caliber stands for 'slow & weak'. But, the 40 caliber semi-auto (semi-auto's hold anywhere from 10-16 bullets depending on the magazine) is now the industry standard for most American law enforcement agencies. You cant make your own guns, but you can make your own bullets.
The rifles were NOT semi-automatic. They were FULLY automatic.
North Hollywood is a neighborhood in the San Fernando Valley. I had turned 7 earlier that month and lived like 15 miles away.
I remember this happening. Megadeth wrote a song about it “44 minutes”
No officers or civilians died
the robbers took civilian legal weapons then modified them illegally to become machineguns.
Normally the only machineguns in civilian possession belong to the extremely wealthy collectors as you can only legally own machineguns registered before the year 1986 and it requires special paperwork and for you to pay a 250 USD tax stamp on top of what you would normally need for regular civilian legal weaponry.
For example a crappy MAC 11 SMG can easily cost you between 8000 USD - 10,000 USD at auction even though when they were first released they sold for about 400 USD new
They are becoming more and more rare and because of it they will keep climbing in price.
I had never heard of this until I moved to Los Angeles and then I realized I had passed that bank every single day on the way to work. This was like a year ago
I remember watching it live as a kid. I lived at the time, about 1 hour north of there.
The year this happened, the LAPD didn't expect to encounter this during a normal police interaction, which is why all of the patrol cruisers were equipped with shotguns, and only the SWAT teams had automatic rifles. SWAT teams train for this, your normal beat cop does not.After this incident, many departments begin switching to MP5's and AR-15's as duty weapons for the patrol cars. What's interesting is that the LAPD was so outgunned, they went to a nearby gun store and commandeered all of the semi-auto rifles in an attempt to even the gunfight.
I remember being in the 7th grade and coming home from school that day and seeing part of the on going news coverage.
According to the made for tv movie of the shootout the two men were to hit an armor truck that was supposed to come to the bank but they either the truck was running late, time mistake or truck's route was changed which led then to them hit the bank instead.
This was the moment that changed American police policies... before this, every town and city did NOT have their own S.W.A.T. teams... after this incident, we made sure that every town in America has their own S.W.A.T. team... (meaning more powerful weapons, and more protection for the cops)
SWAT = Special Weapons and Tactics
Mark 9:26. Hmm. When a walking expletive 🤬 shot my dog Nikkos with an unexpected shotgun instead of the expected tranquilizer dart gun, in 1998 or 1999, the blasts didn't "blow" any part of him away like they depict in movies. That's why the guy that killed my poor dog shot more than once and kept asking if my dog was dead!
Shotgun ammunition isn't generic. You have "buckshot" for shooting bucks. "Birdshot" for shooting birds and so on and so forth.
This is what led to American police being heavily armed. Before, most just had six shooters and maybe shotguns. Police had to loot a pawn shop to get heavier weapons to return fire more effectively.
Learn About Guns Before Narrating a video like this!!!! They said powerful, "semi-auto weapons" ... almost every single gun a person can buy, from a pistol, to an AR-15 are ALL SEMI-AUTO GUNS!" SEMI AUTO GUNS ARE STANDARD WEAPONS, AND PERFECTLY LEGAL, HOWEVER THESE GUYS CHANGED the guns to have 3 round bursts, and even fully-auto settings, which is Totally Illegal in the U.S!!!!., (unless you have a very specific and rare licences, usually ONLY given to the best of the best military personnel... which neither of them had)... Tell the Truth on these videos, or nobody will ever understand what was really happening!!!
They didn’t mention that nearly every cop, paramedic, and dispatchers that worked that call had resigned within a year
These men are the REASON that cops in america are armed and armored
Cops were created and armed in order to recapture escaped slaves....
You mean carry tactical gear. They were armed before this but had no highpower rifles.
Mark 11:45. People were shot, so they were "wounded" as in "GSW". ("Gun Shot Wound".) You're "injured" when hurt while doing other activities not involving weapons. 🧐
The bank robbers were using full metal jacket rounds, which altho it can pierce armor and go thru a car, but it also creates very "clean" wounds that are less deadly. So even tho 19 civilians and muliple cops got shot, all of them survived. FMJ were developed for an actual war zone, where the goal is to wound enemy soldiers rather than outright killing them, it ties up resources in rescuing and caring for the wounded. Cops use equipment that has low velocity and low penetration, so that a stray bullet doesn't go thru someone's house and kill a sleeping child.
Before this incident, police only carried hand guns and shotguns. Only Swat had high-powered rifles. It was after this incident that they started the militarization of the police.
For everyone here a 3A vest is not heavily armored body armor! 3A Kevlar is rated to stop gun fire from hand guns. It cannot stop bullets fired from some shotgun cartridges and it definitely can't stop rifle rounds due to their high velocity and penetration power. Average highway patrol police wear 3A body armor. SWAT or the Military use level 3 or higher body armor to protect from rifle rounds and shrapnel from explosions. 3A uses ceramic to stop pistol bullets and level 3 uses steel plates coated in anti-sprawling material to stop rifle bullets and reduce shrapnel spread with the coating material.
Level 3A is all kevlar (soft) body armor that stops lower velocity bullets of handguns and shotguns. Level 3 are the ones that have ceramic plates inserted or steel plates. Ceramic is lighter and more expensive than steel plates but they both will stop rifle rounds up to the 30-06 and non armor piercing rifle rounds. Ceramic is designed to break apart to absorb some of the energy so it will not stop mulitiple rounds in the same area unlike the heavier steel plates. The military use the ceramic plates.
@@joeiborowski9763 Thanks for the insight. I did not know ceramic plates were a thing in level 3, because mine are steel plates. I own a 3A too. I Guess the military might go ceramic since its lighter than steel plates.
I saw somewhere that now they think Philips didn't shoot himself intentionally but by mistake as he was reloading
Great vids, you guys need your own channel or Patreon so we can assist in growing your channel. I am like Sophie crim investigation is my thing that's why I watch the I.D channel often.
I was 4.5 months away from graduating high school. A lot of events happened when I was in hs, the oj simpson chase then the trial. My teacher started crying in anger and said it was a racist crime. then Titanic was released. Keep the great videos going. We watch them religiously
While I enjoy that you guys reacted to this topic after this video I'm not a fan of the channel you watched, he missed out on some big details, worded things weirdly which makes stuff confusing, and added his own details that weren't accurate
I cant believe they put in file movie footage and other filler crap. Laziness.
This reminds me of the Roof Koreans video with office blahhhhks.
First video we saw Sophie?
I have lived in California most of my life (having lived in Montana for 10 years) and was in high school when this happened. I have always been a huge crime/mystery buff and would have jumped on this as I had family in various parts of California (including in the LA/Anahiem area). Yet, I had never heard of this shootout at all.
And as amazing as it sounds. The only deaths were the 2 gunman
This is why the police carry high powered rifles these days.
I remember this. I too watched it live. However, I live on the East Coast. It was very chaotic.
I remember seeing this on the news when I was a kid
I remember watching this on TV. Police started carrying AR after this. LA was very lucky that there were no police or civilians killed.
I lived a mile from there when this happened. All of a sudden I heard police car after police car descend into my area. And 10 helicopters were buzzing around. I got scared. I turned on the TV and saw what was happening. I didn’t know what to do. I couldn’t go out. I barricaded myself in. Things didn’t subside until 5pm. Then I left to go stay with friends in another county to escape the war zone. I’ll never forget that day.
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Notes: Since I worked at night, I was probably asleep as it happened live. Then I would wake up in time to go to work. Repeat the cycle. I don't know when I would have learned about the incident from the news. 🤔
But anyway, yes. That day's events did have repercussions for everyone around the globe. 🌐🗺🌍🌎🌏
i'm not yet far into the video, but i wanted to mention (in case the narrator didn't) that this incident was a watershed moment in american police history. prior to this, police hadn't really *_needed_* anything more powerful than a shotgun or basic handgun. they'd never dealt with suspects that were so heavily armed and armored. it was after this, that police departments all over the country had to rethink not just the types of equipment that was issued or available to the officers, but develop new tactics and training procedures.
i watched this unfold live on television, and remember thinking, _"this is going to be a game changer for police in america."_
Watch the documentary about the shooting..
Grew up about 30mins from there. The news took it live. The movie Heat is based on it, could be wrong though
Heat was released in 1995, two years before this.
This is the situation that changed how American law enforcement officers are equipped and starting the new methods of training for high-risk incident
This is my local bank. I went there a few weeks ago. I alway think about this situation when I go there.
Aidan, since you were born in the US what day/time do you celebrate your birthday: US or British time?
They actually used this event to basically militarize the police. SWAT units are more kitted now than front line soldiers.
1100 rounds sounds like a lot but that's a standard range day where I live
Yeah, but over 1100 rounds fired in less than 44 minutes?
This incident was one of the main reasons police DID start carrying much heavier weapons. Their little guns were no match for these guys.
So this is what the megadeth song "44 minutes" was about. Did not know that...
TMI: 2 years before the robbery, the movie "Heat" was a major success.
they had fully automatic rifles not semi automatic and they were shooting armour piercing ammunition .
This happened just after my 15th birthday. I remember watching it live on TV and it was just *ucking insane. We had never experienced anything like it. It was like the Hollywood film "Heat" that it come out two years prior.
Random, but is the narrator Polymatters?
I saw it live on television it was like watching the movie heat
A shotgun is definitely a powerful weapon but only effective at close range as the pellets from the shotgun shell (bullet if you will) spread out more and more the further they travel. So if you are a cop taking cover behind a wall or a car and you are 100 feet away, it’s much less effective than say getting hit from a shorter range where the pellets are still in a close bunch. Basically if you are close , a shotgun will put a pretty big hole in someone but if you are too far away you might not even hit them. I live in northern California and I would have been about 15 when this happened and I don’t remember ever hearing about it but I wasn’t exactly sitting around watching the news on tv as a 15 year old. 😂 Pretty interesting story. Keep it up guys!
This is what slugs are for.
A 12 gauge slug will absolutely ruin your day at a hundred yards. People slap steel with them all the time at that range.
From watching bullets bounce off the homemade armor without even knocking them back an inch, they should’ve tried to keep them alive to hire them to design vests for police because even when police get shot in their vests, it’ll put them down and break some ribs and or bones in their chests.
His home made vest was better than what police are issued.
It’s funny hearing y’all talk about guns. You should come to the gun range and make a video of it.
If you found this interesting you should watch a video about the bomb collar bank robbery. It's like something straight out of a movie. If you do, fair warning; there is video on youtube of the robber's (stooge really. It's a wild set of circumstances) death. Not super graphic but still unsettling so be careful what video you choose.
This is the incident that led to most U.S. Police Departments to start carrying rifles, better body armor, and "military " style equipment. Also, a shotgun will do much more damage than an AR, round for round.
Sadly, the video you guys watched has a lot of inaccuracies. I'd recommend the one by Popo medic if you want a more accounting.
Mrs. G, your observation on the modification of guns is *dead* on the money!!! That's why it's unbelievably illegal...
I watched that take place thanks to the overhead news copters taking various recorded and live views given out narionwide as it happened. It was surreal. Lots of things changed nation wide because of this event.
They don't have the best guns because those are extremely expensive. The best AR style rifle on the market is the Heckler & Koch MR556A1, and those are $3,500 (£2,850) each. For a police force the size of LAPD, it would be over $32 million (about £26.5 million) for just the guns, plus the magazines ($60/£49 each so ($553,560/£451,063 for one extra magazine per officer) but more realistically it would be 3-5 per officer ($1,660,680/£1,353,189-$2,767,800/£2,255,314) and the ammo (around $0.52/£0.42 per round x 30 rounds per magazine ($15.60/£12.71 per magazine) x 3-5 magazines per officer ($46.80/£38.13- $78/£63.56). That's a total cost of $3,695.60/£3,011.32 on the low side per officer, so figure low side is about $34 million/£27.8 million. They can't afford that.
I remember this happen in 1997.this change the game on the police to have better weapons!
As a matter of perspective, fear and desperation is exactly what they were exhibiting! The weapons, the armor, the intent, were all indicators of fear and desperation raised over reason and character. This is not to condone or defend their actions, they deserve no sympathy. As a matter of trivia, this event inspired the movie "Heat" staring Al Pacino and Robert Deniro.
a HK-91 IS A BATTLE RIFLE AND PISTOLS AND SHOTGUNS ARE NOT ABLE TO FIGHT AGAINST IT.
This is when the police discovered civilians were better armed than they were.
Believe it or not, all these guns were legal at that time, I don't know about now.
most civilians are etter armed than a patrol officer. That's not usually a patrol officers job
In the LA area, or I suppose in major cities where guns are not as common.
@@ΒΞΔΝ this is where patrol rifles became a thing that the patrol units carried. Before this, only swat would carry rifles.
@@jaydeleon8094 I know, I was a teenager when this happened. Was just stating it was very uncommon back then for people in the city areas even gangs to have much more than pistols. I suppose the tech-9 and Uzi was around a bit back then in criminal hands, but rifles were not the case. This incident changed a lot for sure.
March 0:37. "GRAPHIC CONTENT"?! D'OH! Since "photography" translates to
"light writing" or "writing with light " you would hope so! "Pornography" is "harlot writing" or "the writing of a harlot". If your word ends thst way it is about writing vua whatever medium of format. So if this video lacked "graphic content" it wouldn't exist because it couldn't exist.
I posted comments to various news places and some of them actually switched to different terminology. Carry on viewing. 🧐
"Four hundred AND thousand dollars in stolen cash?" This narrator needs to learn a lot more about the English language before he continues this work...
I know, right.
America Police don't have "bigger guns' on the "patrol officer level" because of "over penetration" issues. You don't want to be in a situation where a police officer fires at someone, only to have the bullet go THROUGH the suspect and into innocent people behind him, or through a wall into a room where there was no way to tell if anyone was in there or not.
Happened last year or so. The Walmart incident where a .556 went thru a wall and killed a teenage girl in a dressing room with her mom. Sad situation.
Daz, who are these people, family or co-workers?
Check the vid explaining it all 👍🏻
Wife & youngest of his two sons. Other son is Declan which has been in a video or two. Young female is a family friend. Feel free to watch the vid as Daz suggests.